See, no one (http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081231111025AAxBsbH) likes jews.
What has this to do with liking jews?
Israel needs to pull their heads out of the sand and understand the Arab World is changing.
Demographically it IS becoming apartheid.
flatten all of jerusalem and build a giant walmart. it's not as if the guys there will ever get along.
I beg to differ. I think they will eventually get along. If you looked at Europe of the 12th century you might have thought the same thing: they will never get along. But eventually they did. If you carefully look at Arab societies of today, you will see striking resemblance to European societies of the 12th century.
I really never much cared for israel/palastine and never understood why they were even granted landed after wwii, if anything, they should have had east berlin/germany or hell give them italy
The High Contracting Parties agree to entrust, by application of the provisions of Article 22, the administration of Palestine, within such boundaries as may be determined by the Principal Allied Powers, to a Mandatory to be selected by the said Powers. The Mandatory will be responsible for putting into effect the declaration originally made on November 2, 1917, by the British Government, and adopted by the other Allied Powers, in favour of the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.
Demographically it IS becoming apartheid.
Most Arab states always had and still have laws openly and directly denying Jews (and other sub-humans) equal rights. Israel, by the way, has no such laws, although obviously there are racists in every country, not just Hungary.
During the fog of war less than 800000 arabs left the newly founded state,
Forza Italia!
Don't diss my ancestral homeland.
Yep. There are even strong political groups within Israel that are for creating laws that would make Arab Israeli citizens into second-class citizens.Well, there is racism in the United States. However, while Arab citizens of Israel had been loyal citizens of the nation for many years, today we witness activities by their representatives in the Knesset that are understandably regarded as shocking by many Israelis, such as terming Israel's independence as the "Nakhba", or catastrophe.
In other words: they fled or were expelled ...They left voluntarily, being urged to do so by propaganda from the countries attacking Israel, so as to facilitate the attack.
Too bad the Tea Party jinxed the Obama/Boehner deal.Here I thought the Democratic Senate rejected Boehner's proposal - but it wasn't a deal with Obama, because Boehner chose the Tea Party over Obama. And the Republicans seem to have prevented Harry Reid's bill from going through - it's a pity a few of them didn't abandon the Tea Party and let America pay its debts.
You eurotrash Nazi/holocaust apologists kill me.
Concessions to thugs only emboldens them to more thuggery.
Plus my solution was better, just give the israel ppl italy, until hollywood makes a good godfather or casino, italy is irrelevant and should have faced harsh punishment for being evil.
Arab World has always been and still is one big nice apartheid. Most Arab states always had and still have laws openly and directly denying Jews (and other sub-humans) equal rights. Israel, by the way, has no such laws, although obviously there are racists in every country, not just Hungary.
The Citizenship and Entry into Israel Law was passed by the Knesset on 31 July 2003, during the second Palestinian uprising.Please note that this law defines STOLEN LAND as 'Israel' !!
The law does not enable the acquisition of Israeli citizenship or residency by a Palestinian from the West Bank or Gaza Strip via marriage.
The law does allow children from such marriages to live in Israel until age 12, at which age they are required to emigrate
That's a funny definition of "stolen".
This thread is FILLED with bigotry.
You ******* racists should be ASHAMED of yourselves for forming a factless opinion.
This thread is FILLED with bigotry.
You ******* racists should be ASHAMED of yourselves for forming a factless opinion.
So you say that Begin really said that?
What, this quote?I did find a web site which claimed that Menachem Begin "in essence" said that in a speech in the Knesset. Which makes me wonder what he really did say. Probably something far more innocuous.
"Our race is the Master Race. We Jews are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves."
I did find a web site which claimed that Menachem Begin "in essence" said that in a speech in the Knesset. Which makes me wonder what he really did say. Probably something far more innocuous.
I'd rather vote for the people in charge of selecting the presidential nominees rather than pre-chosen presidential nominees. Ron Paul is controlled opposition to give people false hope so no one starts rebelling. Once one understands how the Zionists operate, you can see through them. I ask of you all to pay attention to TV broadcasts, especially kids shows, and keep thinking to yourself "drugs, sex or flirtatious pre-13yr. old's, and violence/misfortune." Now let's switch it up and start thinking about "peace, love, and prosperity." Sharing your observations will be greatly appreciated and i'm eager to hear from you.
If you think i'm racist, that is quite ironic judging by what Israel's national flag is representing saying hey, Jews only!"Antisemitism (also spelled anti-semitism or anti-Semitism) is suspicion of, hatred toward, or discrimination against Jews for reasons connected to their Jewish heritage." -Wikipedia
Besides, i'm only talking about Israeli Zionist Jews. My jewish friends are not zionist, therefore they are my friends.
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I still don't get why you're so anti-Semitic, it's quite idiotic TBH.
Israel was established as a Jewish state regardless of what you believe in. I agree there were Zionist aspirations but the Star of David is just a Jewish symbol from David's shield that brought his nation luck, that as the reason it is on the Israeli flag. I recommend you not quote that ridiculous Begin thing again because it's well-known nobody said that other than an anti-Semitic journalist."Israel was established as a Jewish state regardless of what you believe in."
Bluecar only wants to convince the fringe, not educate the masses. Smell that?It's not my fault the majority take the mainstream media the very Israeli Zionist Jews dominate as truth other than actually questioning and thinking for themselves.
Did you join a keyboard forum just to post in a political thread?There are a lot of those type of people on the internet. The best we can do is mock them.
Did you join a keyboard forum just to post in a political thread?Actually no, I joined this awesome website to contribute with my split kinesis keyboard mod in my sig. This is on topic, no?
Sooner or later you Americans should realize that most of the Islamic fanaticism and consequent terrorism is just a natural consequence of the actions of the Israel governments.No, the Arabs started it.
No, the Arabs started it.
So I would be in favor of getting the settlers out of the West Bank, and having U.S. troops stationed in the area to ensure that no terrorist acts are launched from there against Israel.
Obviously just Israel needs protection :smokin:That's no problem, American high school students acquiesce and chose R.O.T.C. as their elective.
No, the Arabs started it.
That is not to say, however, that Israel should take any actions that result in unnecessary hardship or suffering for innocent Palestinians. And if protecting itself from the terrorists makes some problems necessary - less would be necessary if Israel were not acting from a position of weakness.
So I would be in favor of getting the settlers out of the West Bank, and having U.S. troops stationed in the area to ensure that no terrorist acts are launched from there against Israel.
I would be curious to see what happened if the UN decided that the American continent belongs to the native Americans and all people from US, Canada, Brazil and so on, should go back to Europe.When there were a few Jewish settlers in Palestine, living peacefully side-by-side with the Arabs, with no threat of taking over control of the country - violent acts were perpetrated against Jews.
When there were a few Jewish settlers in Palestine, living peacefully side-by-side with the Arabs, with no threat of taking over control of the country - violent acts were perpetrated against Jews
the United States is a civilized nation.
But that's what was going on in Palestine, and so I don't see why there are grounds for sympathy for the Palestinians suffering some territorial consequences. But what the UN declared in 1947 was largely fair - it gave some additional territory to the Jews of Israel.
The countries around Israel descended on it with the intent of driving it into the sea.
When there were a few Jewish settlers in Palestine, living peacefully side-by-side with the Arabs, with no threat of taking over control of the country - violent acts were perpetrated against Jews.
If violent mobs were slaughtering Native Americans today, or if the American legal system turned a blind eye when young punks raped Native American girls, it would be appropriate for the UN to partition the United States and give part of it to the Native Americans. This does not happen there now - the United States is a civilized nation.
The reaction to the 1947 partition was wildly disproportionate.
Quote from: neo;351084Arab World has always been and still is one big nice apartheid. Most Arab states always had and still have laws openly and directly denying Jews (and other sub-humans) equal rights. Israel, by the way, has no such laws, although obviously there are racists in every country, not just Hungary.Yeah right ..
ANY Jew has a RIGHT to 'return home' to 'Israel'...
Do you know that ethnic Germans have a right to 'return home' to Germany and receive German citizenship irrespective of where they were born and for how many generations? Yes, exactly the same 'discriminating and racist' law of return exist in Germany and in fact in many other western nations. But only the Jewish version bothers you. I wonder why?
Germans may have rights to return in GERMANY, not in POLAND.
Jews had the right to return in PALESTINE, Israel was an inexistent nation.
Noticed the "subtle" difference ?
No one is in power of Germany for twelve years due to mere "psychosis." There is a reason for everything, remember that.Hitler attained power once in 1933. This was partly due to voters being intimidated by the Brown Shirts, but also due to the ill effects of reparations under the Treaty of Versailles combined with the Great Depression.
Hitler attained power once in 1933. This was partly due to voters being intimidated by the Brown Shirts, but also due to the ill effects of reparations under the Treaty of Versailles combined with the Great Depression."You must be referring to the Great Depression of 1929. Have you ever wondered why all legal law-abiding documents, "ex. your driver's LICENSE," state your name in ALL CAPITAL LETTERS? This is due to your mother or guardian unknowingly signed your birth CERTIFICATE (http://www.dherbs.com/articles/birth-certificate-274.html) creating a CORPORATION in your name that only applies to you in CAPS. For example, if your name is John Doe then you have a corporation in your name called JOHN DOE legally defines as, "artificial person (http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/88/person.jpg)" not to be confused with John Doe termed ,"natural person," effectively removing your god given common law rights via the Social Security Act of 1935 because quite frankly, your fictional corporation has no rights.
Afterwards, Hitler remained in power for twelve years for the same reason that Communism remained in power for over 60 years in Russia. Except that the reason was called the Gestapo in Germany, whereas it was the NKVD or the KGB in Russia. There were no elections in Germany after Hitler rose to power until Germany's defeat, and "for the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration" was the case in Germany - although the authenticity of the quote, I see, is debated. Stalin's Russia, at least, certainly did have strict gun control - even the troops weren't issued live bullets except when there was a war.
My wife changed her name. Judge never mentioned anything about creating a Corporation or the All Caps thing.
The judge was a woman though so she probably doesn't know that much.
I'm thinking of changing my name legally to Ripster when my post count hits 100k.
Man, you should really consider taking your medicine more regularly, you are losing your grip on reality.I must be losing my touch on reality for being inspired by Tupac Shakur and DMX.
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You must be referring to the Great Depression of 1935.Well, the Great Depression I refer to was still in effect by 1935, but it started in October, 1929. After all, F.D.R. had to have some excuse for confiscating the gold in the hands of the American people in 1933.
Have you ever wondered why all legal law-abiding documents, "ex. your driver's LICENSE," state your name in ALL CAPITAL LETTERS?And here I thought that it was because when the DMV replaced its trusty old IBM 407 accounting machines, and similar tabulating equipment, by more advanced computer equipment that could handle lower case, they didn't want to bother typing in all the old names they already had on punched cards again to put them in upper and lower case properly.
Well, the Great Depression I refer to was still in effect by 1935, but it started in October, 1929. After all, F.D.R. had to have some excuse for confiscating the gold in the hands of the American people in 1933.DMV stands for the Department of Motor Vehicles. Your argument still does not explain why all legal abiding documents such as bills, your DRIVER LICENSE, court documents, name on the birth CERTIFICATE, etc. are in CAPITAL letters.
And here I thought that it was because when the DMV replaced its trusty old IBM 407 accounting machines, and similar tabulating equipment, by more advanced computer equipment that could handle lower case, they didn't want to bother typing in all the old names they already had on punched cards again to put them in upper and lower case properly.
Surely a world-girdling insidious conspiracy like the Illuminati could have had the U.S. pass laws that made corporation names case-insensitive to better conceal their nefarious plans.
When there were a few Jewish settlers in Palestine, living peacefully side-by-side with the Arabs, with no threat of taking over control of the country - violent acts were perpetrated against Jews.
If violent mobs were slaughtering Native Americans today, or if the American legal system turned a blind eye when young punks raped Native American girls, it would be appropriate for the UN to partition the United States and give part of it to the Native Americans. This does not happen there now - the United States is a civilized nation. But that's what was going on in Palestine, and so I don't see why there are grounds for sympathy for the Palestinians suffering some territorial consequences.
But what the UN declared in 1947 was largely fair - it gave some additional territory to the Jews of Israel, but it wasn't accompanied by ethnic cleansing, and, in fact, Israeli Arabs are legal citizens of Israel; unlike Palestinians, they have the rights of citizens.
The reaction to the 1947 partition was wildly disproportionate. The countries around Israel descended on it with the intent of driving it into the sea. Living under Arab rule was not an option for the Jews, because it was clear they would not be free, they would not be equal, in a majority Muslim state. They wouldn't have their rights to equal justice under the law, to protection from violence, securely respected the way these rights are respected in major Western democracies.
So they were not wrong to defend themselves against the incredible odds they faced. Nor were they wrong to refuse to accept the return of those who left Israel to make things easier for the invading forces.
There may be some questions about Israel's conduct today, under a Likud government, but there was very little cause for reproach in the earlier history of Israel under the Labor party.
Nonetheless, Israelis are land-grabbers and it ain't OK !!
I'm surprised this threat is still going...Was that a slip or intentional? :wink:
I'm surprised this threat is still going...
Everone is a "land grabber to somebody else"... for example, Slovenia lost about half of its northern territory of Carinthia to Austria in what is known as The Carinthian Plebiscite of 1920 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carinthian_Plebiscite). Do you think anyone gives a ****? Do you think austrians will or should give back the land? Italy is also sitting nicely on a nice piece of slovenian land which they got after WW2 despite the fact they lost the war and not us. They also got the city of Trieste but that belongs to the chinese these days ;)
Everyone is obsessing over Palestine while people are dying in Sudan and nobody gives a **** about that either.
Hey, I'm proud that USA supplied F15s bombed that Iranian nuclear plant!Who knew the stuxNET virus managed to infiltrate into Iranian's nuclear plant via a usb drive while there is no wi-fi for obvious reasons. Surprising enough, it was digitally signed by Microsoft (rendering all security software helpless) and targeted the Siemen's PLC's that operated Iranian's nuclear plant. It was designed in such a way to make the centrifuges spin out of control while covering it's tracks by displaying all systems were within tolerable limits. This was obviously not accomplished by your typical hacker, needless to say.
We should give them Stealth Fighter for the next run.
Plus the Mossad is beyond awesome. Just think if the EU had the Mossad all those innocent civilians wouldn't be dying in Libya and Gaddafi would have been poisoned, shot, blown up, electrocuted long ago. It too YEARS to get Osama Bin Laden. Mossad could have done it much quicker.
Italy is also sitting nicely on a nice piece of slovenian land which they got after WW2 despite the fact they lost the war and not us.
@Bluecar+1
Do you buy crack-pot ideas in packages? Zionist-conspiracy, freemasons, scam-citrrency, 9/11 truthing, Rotschild, fluoride, HAARP and chem-trails.
If fact is against you that's only a proof that the conspiracy is sooo mighty.
I have debated with your ilk ad nauseam on several occasions and I have learned that it is almost always in vain.
In this (Swedish) 263 page thread (http://www.vof.se/forum/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=22) only a handful of truthers I know of have actually stopped beliving in that nonsense.
I do not have the time to fruitlessly discuss this matter with you.
You're a crank and should seek professional help.
+1 is against forum guidelines.You're wrong.
I think "I agree" would have been OK.
Posts saying "I agree", "+1", "this", "me too", or the equivalent are also routinely removed, so don't post them.And I'm in risk of getting insta-banned for stating the obvious:
You're a crank and should seek professional help.
1. Insults. Direct personal insult of another forum member (e.g., "You are an idiot.") and other name-calling.I'll self-report me and lay my Geekhack life in iMavs hands (I hope he is on Rotschilds pay-roll).
@Bluecar
Do you buy crack-pot ideas in packages? Zionist-conspiracy, freemasons, scam-citrrency, 9/11 truthing, Rotschild, fluoride, HAARP and chem-trails.
If fact is against you that's only a proof that the conspiracy is sooo mighty.
I have debated with your ilk ad nauseam on several occasions and I have learned that it is almost always in vain.
In this (Swedish) 263 page thread only a handful of truthers I know of have actually stopped beliving in that nonsense.
I do not have the time to fruitlessly discuss this matter with you.
You're a crank and should seek professional help.
Nature provides an edible organic salt which is insoluble in water and assimilable by the human body. This substance, calcium-flouro-phosphate (http://australianfluorideaction.com/lies-fraud/), builds and strengthens our bones and teeth. We all need it, and especially our children because they are constantly growing both tooth and bone.Why are cranks unable to make up sentences them self? (http://www.sodahead.com/living/do-you-think-rat-poison-is-good-for-you/question-1654573/) Copy and paste can be useful but there's a thing called quotation.
Nerd alert!Nope, nerds seek knowledge (albeit worthless), cranks seeks holes in a theory to prove that their candy-floss is the truth.
Why are cranks unable to make up sentences them self? (http://www.sodahead.com/living/do-you-think-rat-poison-is-good-for-you/question-1654573/) Copy and paste can be useful but there's a thing called quotation.Oops, forgot the quotes. Do you have anything other than nick picking semantics to debate about?
Very handy for serious debaters.
"There is another substance called Sodium Fluoride, a by-product of the aluminum industry (when mining alum ores, fluorine is the 13th most abundant element that is soluble in water and is concentrated in the water contained in the scrubber stack and costs millions to dispose the toxic substance,) which has been a major pollutant of rivers and streams since 1900, coincidentally. This product is deadly poison, it poisons all animal life that consumes it, even in small quantities it is capable of causing death, suppresses the penal gland, bio-accumulates in the body and no effective antidote has been found."Not directly related but a parallel point, from the Wikipedia Insecticide page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insecticide#Classes_of_agricultural_insecticides), "Natural insecticides, such as nicotine, pyrethrum and neem extracts are made by plants as defenses against insects. Nicotine based insecticides have been barred in the U.S. since 2001 to prevent residues from contaminating foods." So nicotine has been been banned as being too dangerous to use as an insecticide! Any smokers out there? :wink: I actually know a guy who used to work for a pest company and sprayed nicotine to kill roaches. He got sick years later and almost died when he started to lose weight from the toxic material released from stored fat.
Oops, forgot the quotes. Do you have anything other than nick picking semantics to debate about?No, I will now smoke that opium that the Afghan war have made available again. I'll dream of blue cars injected with mind-altering vaccines filled with squalene and fluoride and a fed/red shield of zionism crushing those last persons who have seen through the web of lies.
No, I will now smoke that opium that the Afghan war have made available again. I'll dream of blue cars injected with mind-altering vaccines filled with squalene and fluoride and a f/r ed shield of zionism crushing those last persons who have seen through the web of lies.Are you sure the US hasn't horded all the opium for themselves already?
Nerd alert!The name of this website is GEEKhack.org and after looking at all the threads you have started (http://geekhack.org/search.php?searchid=95517), are you in denial? I would agree that i'm a "nerd" if that means someone who investigates and questions reality, i'm okay with that.Show Image(http://jodisagorin.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/nerd.jpg)
Did you join a keyboard forum just to post in a political thread?
That was a sense of humor test.
You didn't pass.
Why do I need permission to travel as people have been doing so under their free will for millions of years that would otherwise be "illegal" without a driver's license all of a sudden?Because motor vehicles create a greater risk of accident than horses. Just as airplanes are even more tightly regulated, it is necessary to ensure that all people wishing to operate a motor vehicle on public rights-of-way meet certain standards of competence and responsibility.
DMV stands for the Department of Motor Vehicles. Your argument still does not explain why all legal abiding documents such as bills, court documents, name on the birth certificate, etc. are in CAPITAL letters. Let's discuss the DMV by defining common words found in a law dictionary.
DRIVER (http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/driver) - "One employed in conducting a coach, carriage, wagon, or other vehicle, with horses, mules, or other animals." -TheFreeDictionary
Not everyone is employed in traveling, a cab driver for instance.
LICENSE (http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/license) - "The permission granted by competent authority to exercise a certain privilege that, without such authorization, would constitute an illegal act, a Trespass or a tort. The certificate or the document itself that confers permission to engage in otherwise proscribed conduct."
Why do I need permission to travel as people have been doing so under their free will for millions of years that would otherwise be "illegal" without a driver's license all of a sudden?
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Ground Control to Major Tom...
DMV stands for the Department of Motor Vehicles. Your argument still does not explain why all legal abiding documents such as bills, court documents, name on the birth certificate, etc. are in CAPITAL letters. Let's discuss the DMV by defining common words found in a law dictionary.
DRIVER (http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/driver) - "One employed in conducting a coach, carriage, wagon, or other vehicle, with horses, mules, or other animals." -TheFreeDictionary
Not everyone is employed in traveling, a cab driver for instance.
LICENSE (http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/license) - "The permission granted by competent authority to exercise a certain privilege that, without such authorization, would constitute an illegal act, a Trespass or a tort. The certificate or the document itself that confers permission to engage in otherwise proscribed conduct."
Why do I need permission to travel as people have been doing so under their free will for millions of years that would otherwise be "illegal" without a driver's license all of a sudden?
[video=youtube_share;eQzrfJbbj_o]http://youtu.be/eQzrfJbbj_o[/video]
This is the entire post without the dichotomizing so nothing is taken out of context. Considering I am not employed operating a vehicle such as a taxi driver would be, i'm not a driver. How is my DRIVER'S license valid if i'm not a DRIVER by definition?You say you're referring to a legal dictionary then quote a free online dictionary. What legal precedent is there for an interpretation of an online dictionary used as a basis for not needing a government issued driver's license? Don't know about you but I feel at least a little better knowing the other nuts on the road had to pass some level of competency test before getting behind the wheel of a multi-ton death machine sharing the road with me, :wink:
DMV stands for the Department of Motor Vehicles. Your argument still does not explain why all legal abiding documents such as bills, court documents, name on the birth certificate, etc. are in CAPITAL letters. Let's discuss the DMV by defining common words found in a law dictionary.
DRIVER (http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/driver) - "One employed in conducting a coach, carriage, wagon, or other vehicle, with horses, mules, or other animals." -TheFreeDictionary
Not everyone is employed in traveling, a cab driver for instance.
LICENSE (http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/license) - "The permission granted by competent authority to exercise a certain privilege that, without such authorization, would constitute an illegal act, a Trespass or a tort. The certificate or the document itself that confers permission to engage in otherwise proscribed conduct."
Why do I need permission to travel as people have been doing so under their free will for millions of years that would otherwise be "illegal" without a driver's license all of a sudden?
[video=youtube_share;eQzrfJbbj_o]http://youtu.be/eQzrfJbbj_o[/video]
This is the entire post without the dichotomizing so nothing is taken out of context. Considering I am not employed operating a vehicle such as a taxi driver would be, i'm not a driver. How is my DRIVER'S license valid if i'm not a DRIVER by definition?You say you're referring to a legal dictionary then quote a free online dictionary. What legal precedent is there for an interpretation of an online dictionary used as a basis for not needing a government issued driver's license to drive a car on public roads? Don't know about you but I feel at least a little better knowing the other nuts on the road had to pass some level of competency test before getting behind the wheel of a multi-ton death machine sharing the road with me, :wink:
I'll scan the definitions out of black's law dictionary when I get back from whole foods, i'm starving.Well you don't really have to. It really doesn't matter what a legal dictionary says so much as what the law says. And I agree this is a public safety issue. Does the government abuse the system for profit and control? Probably, that's one of the things governments do.
I'll scan the definitions out of black's law dictionary when I get back from whole foods, i'm starving.Well you don't really have to. It really doesn't matter what a legal dictionary says so much as what the law says. And I agree this is a public safety issue. Does the government abuse the system for profit and control? Probably, that's one of the things governments do.
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Source: Black's law dictionary
I'll scan the definitions out of black's law dictionary when I get back from whole foods, i'm starving.
Yay now we're name dropping store names for "cred".
Most of my family's shopping is done at Wal-Mart, Target, and Kroger. I am the enemy consumer ****. I am the target market.
By the way, what the hell do the DMV or Black's definitions have to do with Israel defending itself from Jihad?
Have you thought of the possibility that maybe, most if not all processed food is heated past 118F? Food that is cooked in excess of 118F typically rapidly loses half of its nutritional value (including digestive enzymes) and deteriorates further the longer it is cooked. It is called the Miallard reaction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maillard_reaction).
Did you know the FDA is not required (http://www.fda.gov/food/guidancecomplianceregulatoryinformation/guidancedocuments/foodlabelingnutrition/ucm059098.htm) to label genetically modified food? I'd venture to say that all produce supplied by Wal-Mart, Target, Kroger is indeed genetically modified IF it is not explicitly labeled as organic. -www.fda.gov
Edit: Didn't mean to derail thread, just throwing an idea out there.
i'm trying to eat some hot dogs and thinking about Israel makes me lose my appetite, thanks. :rolleyes:
Are they vegan hot dogs?No, unfortunately it was a constituent of meat like most of my meals lately :/ Anyone who insist they are an omnivore (or carnivore for that matter,) are you up for a challenge? If so, the modern lifestyle must be set aside to be historically accurate, for at least one day. Now, if the plan is to catch your moving prey on foot, you might want to start running so you can attempt chasing, hunting down, and killing your victim. Man has not discovered fire at this present point in time so you have to eat it RAW. If you were fortunate enough to acquire a cow, good luck tearing the thick leather rawhide! Your "claws" aren't much much help here, better bring out the tools if you have any...
hehe
Did you get that key cap? Mine came today ;)
"There is a protein myth going around that you need protein in order to build muscle and that best protein is animal protein. Nothing furthest from the truth! First of all, animal protein, in most cases, has to be cooked. Scientifically, cooking destroys at least one half of the food's available protein.
Second, you don't need protein to build muscle. Protein is the middle man. Your body takes protein, breaks it down into amino acids, and then builds muscle and other things with those amino acids. So why not get the amino acids directly? And where can I find amino acids?
ENZYMES! Anything that has enzymes has amino acids, because enzymes are amino acids! Cut out the middle man! When studying food, laboratories cook the food, so it's hard for them to find the real nutrients in foods because they get destroyed. However, if you eat a mostly raw-vegan lifestyle, you will get so many enzymes (amino acids) that your body will start building muscle and burning fat in no time, plus you will get all the nutrients from plants, minerals, vitamins, phytonutrients, etc." -Source (http://amcnutrition.blogspot.com/)
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You are wrong man... You need a hell lot of protein to build lean muscle. Most plants proteins have inferior amino profile than meat or eggs.
They are not even close. I used to eat 2 chickens a day, before I switched to vegan body building, and my results were far superiour when I consumed meat.
It is possible to build muscle with plants, but you have to know your stuff really well and combine them with each other, or add specific amino acids to achieve an optimal amino profile.
Actually cooking enhance the quality and digestibilty of the protein. Also if you eat a lot of stuff raw you will produce a hell lot of gas. Most plants contain anti-nutritional factors (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-nutritional_factor)when consumed raw.
Ideally you need to combine raw and cooked food.
Consuming raw food definitely has its advantages, but the main advantage in eating raw food is that it promotes the growth of the healthy bacteria in your inestines, and it supplies the enzymes.
That's why I eat a lot of fermented foods like tempeh, natto, yoghurt, kvas, etc.
...blabla...what about the moonlanding? any thoughts?
Just because it is not a walk in the park to eat enough raw food to build muscle probably does not justify that my point has absolutely no merit. Chimps might be munching on bananas ALL day for a reason, they have ridiculous amounts of muscle.
Did you know we are the only animals who drink the milk of other animals?
Are you implying fire may be beneficial to man-kind for reasons more than the natural recycling of rainforest, for instance? Chimpanzee's nor did human beings prior to some thousand years cooked their food before eating it. Can you elaborate how Chimpanzee's are constituents of muscle?
And chimpanzees eat meat whenever they can. They actually hunt. (http://www-bcf.usc.edu/%7Estanford/chimphunt.html)
Humanoids have cooked food for hundred thousend of years and many researchers belive that cooked food have made it possible for us to develop bigger brains and a more advanced social system. Digesting raw food is very energy consuming whereas cooked food is more acessible. Our brain consumes 20% of our bodys energy 24/7, cooked food frees energy from our digestion and lets it to be used elsewhere. I.e. the brain.
Richard Wrangham have elaborated this. (http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=evolving-bigger-brains-th)
True. The mutation that made us able to digest lactose (as adults) ocurred some 7000 years ago and proved very benificary. (http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/0,1518,723310,00.html)
Bluecar who killed jfk?
My money is on Buzz Aldrin. He always gave me the creeps, like maybe he'd assassinated someone.
Have you thought of the possibility that maybe, most if not all processed food is heated past 118F? Food that is cooked in excess of 118F typically rapidly loses half of its nutritional value (including digestive enzymes) and deteriorates further the longer it is cooked. It is called the Miallard reaction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maillard_reaction). -wikipedia
**** Israel. Eat raw food.
That statement is quite ironic if you ask me...
This is coming from the person who censored my threads due to my political motivation. I'm finished with my contribution, ban me please because it's the only reason i'm here and I enjoy "freedom of speech" that does not exist today.
Arabs were framed on 911 for a reason.How can there have been a reason for something that didn't happen?
this youtube videoWell, if there was a TV news report where we saw the announcer saying that an airplane had struck each of the Twin Towers, and the two buildings were just standing there... that certainly would prove somebody knew.
Okay, I'll let you have that one for the effort.
Now, can you explain why the 9/11 Commission Report (http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report.pdf) (click to view PDF) does not mention World Trade Center (7) SEVEN anywhere in the document? Was the intention of the 9/11 Commission Report only to document only WTC 1 & 2 or was it meant to document all of the events that happened that day?
9/11 Commission[/URL]"]The National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States (also known as the 9-11 Commission), an independent, bipartisan commission created by congressional legislation and the signature of President George W. Bush in late 2002, is chartered to prepare a full and complete account of the circumstances surrounding the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, including preparedness for and the immediate response to the attacks. The Commission is also mandated to provide recommendations designed to guard against future attacks.
NIST[/URL]"]The overall NIST investigation began on Aug. 21, 2002. Early in the investigation, a decision was made to complete studies of the two tower collapses (WTC 1 and WTC 2) before fully proceeding on the WTC 7 investigation. A major technical conference on the draft reports on WTC 1 and WTC 2 occurred on Sept. 13-15, 2005. The time between the technical conference on the WTC towers report and the issuance of this draft WTC 7 report is approximately three years, comparable to the length of a typical investigation of an aircraft crash.
However, as far as I'm concerned, nobody, but nobody, has any excuse to threaten the world's major industrialized democracies. The United States is just what it sees itself to be: the world's leading democracy, the defender of freedom in two World Wars and the Cold War, and the generous nation that gave the world the Marshall Plan, the Peace Corps, and the Green Revolution. And the other industrialized countries are also peaceful people minding their own business in friendship with the United States.
I have to agree. I am George Washington's 8th cousin, 6 times removed, and I am married to a Jewish woman, but I think that Israel is a rogue nation totally out of control, and that we need to use our influence to stop the insanity.
That's a funny definition of "stolen". Israel's borders grew each time Arab nations surrounding it were dumb enough to attack, and as always, lose.
Does might equal right?
Does might equal right?
It's tragic that some who were so badly persecuted on the basis of religion, money and power during WWII, are now persecuting others for those same reasons – and doing so in the name of Judaism. The Israeli government continues to enjoy the luxury of ignoring international law and the protests of other countries because of the patronage of the wealthiest, most powerful country in the world: the United States of America. This alliance has little to do with morality or U.S. national security, and a lot to do with huge political influence exerted by American Jewish and Evangelical Christian lobbyists. Evangelicals support the notion of a Jewish-only state not on humanitarian grounds, but because they believe it is key to them surviving the Rapture.
After seeing this thread for the first time, I am literally in utter disbelief at some of the comments/suggestions/opinions made in this thread. There are a ton of sarcastic thread posts that are humorous, but at the same time i fear that some of these are meant to be taken literally. I being Jewish myself fully support Israel in it's fight. I am just in awe at the mass amount of stupidity collected here.
Anti-Israel propagandists, well someone is printing the worlds currency. If it isn't Israel pulling the strings then who is it?
"Bottom line: If the arabs put down their guns there would be peace, if Israel put down there guns there would be no Israel."
If Israel put down their nukes and weapons, there would be no Israel, there would be world peace.So all we have to do to achieve world peace is destroy Israel?
You're right, if Israel put down their nukes and weapons there would be no Israel, there would be world peace.How many jews were allowd to live in the areas conquerd by Jordan and Egypt in 1949? I suppose Helen Thomas would applaud if Israel put down their guns and this perfect ethnic-cleansing could be reenacted.
YesWhat the f*ck are you smoking ?
And that, guys and gals, is what complete mental retardation looks like...You have yet to explain this since you are so smart.
I suppose Helen Thomas would applaud if Israel put down their guns and this perfect ethnic-cleansing could be reenacted.Why not? According to this (widely pervasive) logic, if you criticize Israeli domestic or foreign policy you're automatically an anti-Semite.
Dumb religious idiots, yes. Too late now though.
I'm not a historian.
...but today the impetus for a Jewish state in Palestine is just fundamental religious nonsense.
Too late now though.
And you don't even have to get away from this thread to see that the very reason Israel was created in the first place, the atrocious anti-Semitism, did not disappear with the creation of Israel. Existence of Israel just made it much harder for anti-Semites to achieve their goal. Which seems to be driving them completely bonkers.
Also, I did notice your rather transparent attempt to bait me with the Herzl reference earlier, with that failed you're now simply trying to claim Zionism is unrelated to religion? That's the most hilarious thing in this thread so far. If that were case why did they choose Palestine rather than say, I dunno, anywhere else in the world other a subcontinent filled mainly with Muslim anti-Semites to found a Jewish State where they'd be free from anti-Semitism?
The argument that several generations of European Jews have been born there doesn't really excuse the whole situation, or the fact Israel should never have been founded in the first place.
Did you support African apartheid so that the White population could live in the land where they were born?
Yes, Zionism is unrelated to religion.
Jewish nation-state.That doesn't work, by the way.
Just realize that the anti-semite argument is just another extension of Godwin's Law, and equally as useless. Throwing around "Anti-Semite" is also disingenuous to all of the other cultures who also share that root language. What about the Ugarits, or the Akkadians? Co-Opting a hate term that includes many many similar cultures to simply refer to your specific culture is lame. There is no vast anti-Zionist conspiracy anymore than there is a Zionist one.
And just because a poll suggests that Israeli jews are more secular than their western brethren, does not change the fact that they are showing themselves to be as equally racist as the teutons who hauled them wholesale to extermination camps. To their own objectors within they silence as brutally as they are allowed, and to the outside observer, they yell "anti-semite."
How are we supposed to respond as goyim? I am as equally disgusted with the Holocaust as I am with the Jewish destruction of Palestine, for the exact same reasons. Jews should know better.
Basically Israel (or Palestine as it would have been called then) was being run by the British and already had a Jewish population, with their own paramilitary/terrorist groups, similar to the Palestinian ones like Hezbollah today. The grief they were causing (rightly or wrongly) combined with the influx of Holocaust survivors coming into Palestine drove the British to just say to hell with it and leave. The UN stepped in and tried to find some arrangement between the Arab and (increased) Jew populations by splitting the country in two, the Jews were fine with it but the Arabs weren't and started behaving like pricks. The Jews decided they ran the show now (before Britain had even fully pulled out) and Palestine was now called Israel, the Arab world wasn't too pleased with this and led to the Arab-Israeli war and the Six-Day War and everything ever since essentially.
Basically the Jews are douches, and mainly of European descent which is further argument that Israel is an illegitimate colonial power, they're supported by the USA due to lobby groups and the legacy of Cold War politics, which in turn has dragged some other Western countries in as well. The Arabs are also douches; backward, xenophobic, unreasonable ones at that. None of this would really matter to us (by us I mean North American and European, which I assume makes up the most part of the forum) if our governments had just kept their noses out, and remained neutral or indifferent to the whole Arab-Israeli conflict instead of throwing their weight behind Israel for no good reason. Especially considering Israeli's blatant human-rights abuse, criminal/borderline-criminal covert ops (going around assassinating ex-Nazi's in other countries), and the fact they attacked a US naval ship while they were going to war with their neighbours, killing 34 and wounding 171 (to be fair, it was an "accident" though).
You don't feel migrating into someone else's country and claiming it as your own, and then brutalising and marginalising the original occupants doesn't even warrant an excuse? Wow, just wow... Is it any wonder there's increasing anti-Zionist sentiment from the Arab world, Europe, Jewish organisations, and internationally, when you have people with attitudes like that.
That doesn't work, by the way.
Just because it happened in the past doesn't make it acceptable now, that's the worst argument I've heard yet.
And you can't separate Jewishness from Judaism,
Your arguments are morally and rationally bankrupt and can be summarised as "occupation of an other country and mistreatment of the existing population is acceptable because:
A) it's happened in the past and therefore is OK now,
B) Jews have suffered persecution and therefore allowed to create their own country at the expense of someone else's
C) the Jewish population in general may have some tenuous genetic link to the occupants of the area over a thousand years ago, therefore they have a legitimate claim to take it back now
D) There have been a few generations born in the area now so that somehow makes the previous actions justified
E) If you disagree with any of this you're an anti-Semite and a racist."
What do you mean "acceptable now"? Whatever "occupation" of Palestine you are talking about, it happened few generations ago. It is no less acceptable than any other "occupation" which happened long time ago.So you're agreeing the original Jewish occupation of Palestine, post WW2 was an unacceptable action? That's all I've been arguing, I dunno how many times I have to point out that what's done is done and Israel exists now regardless and can't just be dissolved.
I did not say or imply any of this.Then what are we disagreeing on? I think the creation of Israel was unjustified, unfair on the existing mostly non-Jewish population, caused a gigantic mess, and that Western governments should have nothing to do with it. If you disagree, then what's your justification for Zionism?
So you're agreeing the original Jewish occupation of Palestine, post WW2 was an unacceptable action? That's all I've been arguing, I dunno how many times I have to point out that what's done is done and Israel exists now regardless and can't just be dissolved.There are quite a few distinguishing details about that particular "occupation":
The word "anti-Semitism" means hatred of Jews, irrespective of what the word "Semitic" means. If you don't believe me, look in the dictionary. The word itself was introduced by European racists, who proudly called themselves anti-Semites, to highlight the fact that the hatred is ethnic and includes Jews who converted to Christianity.
Yes, it is indeed difficult to criticize Israel, precisely because all the racists who once proudly called themselves anti-Semites, today call themselves anti-Zionists (with no less pride) and pretend to be "simply critical of Israel's policies". In my opinion, anyone who wants to be heard when criticizing Israel, should make an extensive effort at least to appear to be objective. Statements like "I am as equally disgusted with the Holocaust as I am with the Jewish destruction of Palestine" do not help. There is no comparison for anyone who would make even the minimal effort to be objective.
I did not say or imply any of this.
Your opinion is that whatever the Jews do to the Palestinians is justified and in no way racist, because the Jews having survived the Holocaust have carte blanch to do whatever the hell they want without fear of reprisal or being called racist. Only Germans can commit genocide, because genocide can only be perpetrated against Jews?
No. My opinion is that what "the Jews do to the Palestinians" is in no way shape or form is even remotely comparable to what the Germans did to the Jews. Just think about it for a second. Two Palestinians who were recently convicted of murdering five members of a Jewish family (which included cutting the throats of two toddlers and a three month old(!) infant, will spend their lives in prison, because there is no death penalty in Israel. Are you honestly going to tell me you see a similarity here with the way Jews were treated by Germans during WWII?
On a related note, in Palestinian Authority there is a death sentence for "selling land to Jews". That is the actual wording from the law.
Who shot Rabin? Was that a Palestinian?
How is this relevant to anything under discussion? Did anyone ever suggested it was a Palestinian? Or is this supposed to be an example of Jews treating Palestinians exactly like Germans treated Jews (systematically exterminated EVERY SINGLE ONE they ever came across)?