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		geekhack Community => Keyboards => Topic started by: Rafen on Wed, 15 August 2012, 19:08:35
		
			
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				I just received my BlackWidow in the mail today and I started typing on it and noticed that I felt completely different compared to my Leopold w/ blues. I have been using the Leopold for about a year on and off and it feels really good but for someone reason the BlackWidow feels different and is a lot better in my opinion. I was wondering why this is? Both the keyboards have the same switch and are plated mounted. I even did the nickel test on both of them and required the same about of nickels. So why is it one feels better than the other? Also anyone who owns a BlackWidow and a Filco, how do they compare to one another? If the keyboard feels this good, then I can only imagine how the Filcos must feel. I'm hoping this isn't all in my head... :-[
			
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				The existential question is:
 
 What is it - that is not - just "in your head"?
 
 If our subjective feelings were not of supreme importance to each of us, there would only be 2 keyboards in the world:
 
 1. the "best" keyboard - for those who care
 
 2. the cheapest keyboard - for those who don't care
 
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				The blues have a much lighter and more responsive feeling while still remaining a little more quiet than the Leopold. I wonder if the texture of the keys might have something to do with it? 
			
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				There's any number of variables that can affect this.  Size of keyboard can have your wrists/hands at a different position, thickness, contour, profile, texture of keycap... etc.  There's also those other factors such as "this is different and new therefore must be better" that we all experience initially.
			
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				  There's also those other factors such as "this is different and new therefore must be better" that we all experience initially.
 
 
 That's what I was thinking it must be since Leopold keyboards are make very well. Thanks guys for your help.
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				Well, Razer claims that they "cherry pick" their switches, but that's just a marketing ploy. The BW will feel different at first because the switches arent broken in yet. MX blues require some  break-in time to loosen up a little.
			
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				Well, Razer claims that they "cherry pick" their switches, but that's just a marketing ploy. The BW will feel different at first because the switches arent broken in yet. MX blues require some  break-in time to loosen up a little.
 
 
 "cherry pick" - very droll :-D
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				I will just type on this keyboard for a while longer and try to break it in then I will see if I can still tell the difference between the boards. If the BlackWidow still feels better after a couple of weeks maybe by then I can narrow it down to why it feels better. 
			
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				What compelled you to buy a BW after already owning a leopold w/ blues?
			
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				I actually agree with you and it seems to be at least partially related to the cheap ass key caps they give you. The blackwidow is the only mx blue board I even like.
			
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				I couldn't help the deal got it on dell.com with a discount I had for being a student. The board only cost me $55 including shipping.
 
 @Glockateer - I notice that the keycaps feel a lot better on the BlackWidow. I am actually going to change them and see if that makes a difference of how they feel. The BlackWidow keys have the texture to them where the Leopold has the smooth keys that feel really cheap and I can't stand it.
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				I'd rather feel the keys cheap than having to see that ugly fontface on the Blackwidow.
			
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				Frontface? I don't mind how the BlackWidow looks I actually like it next to the look of a Leopold.
			
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				Font face. It means the font that the BW uses. I personally hate it.
			
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				it's because Black Widow's Cherry MX blue switches are modified. Less activation force.
			
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				Font face. It means the font that the BW uses. I personally hate it.
 
 
 I'm with you on that.  The switches and such felt fine, wasn't a fan of the extra row on the left.  Mine is sitting in pieces at the moment, it became a switch donor.
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				it's because Black Widow's Cherry MX blue switches are modified. Less activation force.
 
 
 Where'd you hear this?
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				its not modification, just preference selection (they are able to choose the tolerance of each switches requirement)
 http://store.razerzone.com/store/razerusa/en_US/pd/productID.211324200
 Each of the mechanical switches has been sorted prior to manufacture to adhere to a strict design guideline.
 the selection (and sorting prior to manufacture) of mechanical switches