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geekhack Community => Off Topic => Topic started by: singaporean123 on Thu, 23 August 2012, 10:34:47

Title: Why are Tsangan kits called Tsangan kits?
Post by: singaporean123 on Thu, 23 August 2012, 10:34:47

There's a user named Tsangan here right..?

Was it because he made them?

Title: Re: Why are Tsangan kits called Tsangan kits?
Post by: mkawa on Thu, 23 August 2012, 10:46:08

yep, he came up with that accessory kit keyset based on his encyclopedic knowledge of boards with weird layouts :D

Title: Re: Why are Tsangan kits called Tsangan kits?
Post by: absyrd on Thu, 23 August 2012, 10:48:14

He is super-famous! :drool:

Title: Why are Tsangan kits called Tsangan kits?
Post by: litster on Thu, 23 August 2012, 10:50:51

You should look up the "tsangwish incident" as well. :-)

Title: Re: Why are Tsangan kits called Tsangan kits?
Post by: thegunner100 on Thu, 23 August 2012, 10:51:16

And moogle kits are NOT named after the final fantasy moogles, though the user who came up with the idea might have had his username named after final fantasy moogles.

Title: Re: Why are Tsangan kits called Tsangan kits?
Post by: singaporean123 on Thu, 23 August 2012, 10:56:33

Quote from: litster on Thu, 23 August 2012, 10:50:51

You should look up the "tsangwish incident" as well. :-)

Couldn't find anything on it.. or I may not know where to look..

Title: Re: Why are Tsangan kits called Tsangan kits?
Post by: mkawa on Thu, 23 August 2012, 10:56:52

ALTHOUGH, hashbaz has made so many more moogle kits than moogle did that i think they should now be named hashbaz kits :D

Title: Re: Why are Tsangan kits called Tsangan kits?
Post by: singaporean123 on Thu, 23 August 2012, 10:57:44

Quote from: thegunner100 on Thu, 23 August 2012, 10:51:16

And moogle kits are NOT named after the final fantasy moogles, though the user who came up with the idea might have had his username named after final fantasy moogles.

What's the difference between moogle kits and tsangan kits...?
they're generally those modifier keys right? or am i wrong..

Title: Re: Why are Tsangan kits called Tsangan kits?
Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 23 August 2012, 11:02:14

Tsangan kits have 1.5x modifiers, a 7x space bar, 1x modifier keys and a short right Shift.  They are mainly for use with Korean custom keybaords.

Moogle kits generally have 1.25x modifiers, standard-width Shifts, Caps Lock, and 6.25x space bar.  They are for use with standard-layout ANSI keyboards (Filco, Leopold, etc.).

Title: Re: Why are Tsangan kits called Tsangan kits?
Post by: mkawa on Thu, 23 August 2012, 11:03:15

tsangan kit: compatibility kit for 87 and 104-key (winkeyed) keysets to fit winkeyless keyboards and weird keyboards like the PURE and some other cherry boards that have short right shifts.

hashbaz/moogle kit: compatibility kit for 84 and 101-key (winkeyless) keysets to fit modern 87 and 104-key (winkeyed) keyboards.

in some ways, they are duals of each other, but the basic idea is that sometimes, you need a winkeyless set to fit a winkeyed board (eg, vintage cherry keycaps on a filco) and sometimes you need modern winkeyed sets to fit winkeyless boards (eg, imsto's thick PBTs on a vintage cherry or custom board like a korean board or a phantom)

Title: Re: Why are Tsangan kits called Tsangan kits?
Post by: jwaz on Thu, 23 August 2012, 11:03:24

Huh, I wonder who will get credit for the Dolch reproduction sets...

Title: Re: Why are Tsangan kits called Tsangan kits?
Post by: mkawa on Thu, 23 August 2012, 11:04:34

HMMMMMMMM

Title: Re: Why are Tsangan kits called Tsangan kits?
Post by: singaporean123 on Thu, 23 August 2012, 11:06:33

Got it!

Thanks for the input guys! I'm new to mech keyboards and always thought those names= designs, instead of the layout and sizes.

Thanks a bunch!

Title: Re: Why are Tsangan kits called Tsangan kits?
Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 23 August 2012, 11:22:33

Quote from: JesuswasaZombie on Thu, 23 August 2012, 11:03:24

Huh, I wonder who will get credit for the Dolch reproduction sets...

I imagine they'll just be called "Dolch replica sets".

If we must attach a name I'll make sure they are called Zombie sets. ;P

Title: Re: Why are Tsangan kits called Tsangan kits?
Post by: mkawa on Thu, 23 August 2012, 11:24:21

i like it: DOLCH, BACK FROM THE DEAD

READY TO ROCK YOUR KEYBOARD

Title: Re: Why are Tsangan kits called Tsangan kits?
Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 23 August 2012, 11:30:31

Zombie Dolch, or ZD sets.  I like where this is going.

Title: Re: Why are Tsangan kits called Tsangan kits?
Post by: jwaz on Thu, 23 August 2012, 12:41:24

Zombies are in this year  :cool:

Title: Re: Why are Tsangan kits called Tsangan kits?
Post by: sth on Thu, 23 August 2012, 12:44:51

i cant wait for zombie dolch!

Title: Re: Why are Tsangan kits called Tsangan kits?
Post by: demik on Thu, 23 August 2012, 12:49:42

I knew him before he was famous!!

Title: Re: Why are Tsangan kits called Tsangan kits?
Post by: kaiserreich on Fri, 24 August 2012, 12:54:04

Which Tsangwich?

Title: Re: Why are Tsangan kits called Tsangan kits?
Post by: shawn o on Tue, 24 March 2015, 21:39:17

oops

Title: Re: Why are Tsangan kits called Tsangan kits?
Post by: shawn o on Tue, 24 March 2015, 21:40:38

originative was first to sell them.

Quote from: jwaz on Thu, 23 August 2012, 11:03:24

Huh, I wonder who will get credit for the Dolch reproduction sets...

Title: Re: Why are Tsangan kits called Tsangan kits?
Post by: jonathanyu on Tue, 24 March 2015, 21:42:26

Quote from: shawn o on Tue, 24 March 2015, 21:40:38

originative was first to sell them.

Quote from: jwaz on Thu, 23 August 2012, 11:03:24

Huh, I wonder who will get credit for the Dolch reproduction sets...

check the date before you post

Title: Re: Why are Tsangan kits called Tsangan kits?
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 24 March 2015, 21:43:42

:facepalm:

Title: Re: Why are Tsangan kits called Tsangan kits?
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Tue, 24 March 2015, 21:43:47

Quote from: shawn o on Tue, 24 March 2015, 21:39:17

oops

HOLY NECRO BUMP... But yes, they will not work on a filco!

Title: Re: Why are Tsangan kits called Tsangan kits?
Post by: eth0s on Tue, 24 March 2015, 21:46:23

necro thread or not.

tsangan is NOT a zombie.

tsangan is an awesome dude.

Title: Re: Why are Tsangan kits called Tsangan kits?
Post by: shawn o on Tue, 24 March 2015, 22:24:50

I have a Dolch "Reproduction" set made by SP I bought in 2010. I believe it was Round 3 or 4?

Then another group buy from SP for Dolch moogle kits.

After that I think the next was Sherry for Dolch with GMK in August 2013. And the whole set was less than $100.

(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc249/mn_pikey/DSC_2977_zpsnzyz0foa.jpg)

Title: Re: Why are Tsangan kits called Tsangan kits?
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 24 March 2015, 22:41:39

Quote from: shawn o on Tue, 24 March 2015, 22:24:50

I have a Dolch "Reproduction" set made by SP I bought in 2010. I believe it was Round 3 or 4?

Then another group buy from SP for Dolch moogle kits.

After that I think the next was Sherry for Dolch with GMK in August 2013. And the whole set was less than $100.

Show Image

(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc249/mn_pikey/DSC_2977_zpsnzyz0foa.jpg)

No Tsangan kit?

Title: Re: Why are Tsangan kits called Tsangan kits?
Post by: hashbaz on Wed, 25 March 2015, 01:08:58

Quote from: rowdy on Tue, 24 March 2015, 22:41:39

Quote from: shawn o on Tue, 24 March 2015, 22:24:50

I have a Dolch "Reproduction" set made by SP I bought in 2010. I believe it was Round 3 or 4?

Then another group buy from SP for Dolch moogle kits.

After that I think the next was Sherry for Dolch with GMK in August 2013. And the whole set was less than $100.

Show Image

(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc249/mn_pikey/DSC_2977_zpsnzyz0foa.jpg)

No Tsangan kit?

That looks to be a Round 3 set, which was well before tsangan kits were a thing.  R3 also included the original round of moogle kits, which to my knowledge was the first adapter kit ever made by geekhackers.

Title: Re: Why are Tsangan kits called Tsangan kits?
Post by: paicrai on Wed, 25 March 2015, 04:36:18

Quote from: shawn o on Tue, 24 March 2015, 21:39:17

oops

check this cool car i found
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