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Title: Clack Factory "3D" Skull Keycap (Topre) in stock
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 27 August 2012, 05:54:48
http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,toprekeys&pid=cf_5t_sku_3d
Title: Re: Clack Factory "3D" Skull Keycap (Topre) in stock
Post by: mm87 on Mon, 27 August 2012, 06:02:31
It's not actually in stock anymore, you'll see if you try to checkout :|
Title: Re: Clack Factory "3D" Skull Keycap (Topre) in stock
Post by: longweight on Mon, 27 August 2012, 07:08:52
They don't last long!
Title: Re: Clack Factory "3D" Skull Keycap (Topre) in stock
Post by: nntnam on Mon, 27 August 2012, 07:36:52
^ Have you received the refund. I guess there may be some more when Brian has finished canceling all the "violate" order ;D.
Title: Re: Clack Factory "3D" Skull Keycap (Topre) in stock
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 27 August 2012, 14:53:13
Damnit!  They were there and I was able to checkout one before I realised that it was Topre.

Maybe I should have bought one and traded it for an MX one.
Title: Re: Clack Factory "3D" Skull Keycap (Topre) in stock
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Mon, 27 August 2012, 19:34:41
Those specific 3D ones has been there for a long time. Zero chance EK actually had one. Any CC sold on EK will sell out in seconds. This is where internet speed actually matters because everyone checks out at the same time.
Title: Re: Clack Factory "3D" Skull Keycap (Topre) in stock
Post by: Glissant on Mon, 27 August 2012, 20:32:45
They were for sale today. I got my hands on one even hours after they went up for sale because of a canceled order. Happy camper that I didn't have to pay $100 for it.
Title: Re: Clack Factory "3D" Skull Keycap (Topre) in stock
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Mon, 27 August 2012, 21:54:02
If that is really true, how did EK manage to get more of those? They were made months ago, and I would think no orders are held up for months. Did EK send out any newsletters?
Title: Re: Clack Factory "3D" Skull Keycap (Topre) in stock
Post by: sth on Mon, 27 August 2012, 21:55:09
EK is CC's official distributor and as such they keep a small stock of CCs on hand to put up for sale here and there. I dont think they include such sales in their newsletter/updates.
Title: Re: Clack Factory "3D" Skull Keycap (Topre) in stock
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 27 August 2012, 22:45:57
If they did, by the time they sent the newsletter out the caps would all be sold, and there would be a lot of informed but frustrated newsletter subscribers.

As it is, anyone lucky enough to look at the site just as some are available might get lucky if they can click quickly enough.
Title: Re: Clack Factory "3D" Skull Keycap (Topre) in stock
Post by: sth on Mon, 27 August 2012, 22:46:51
Yeah - i think they only advertise large CC sales ahead of time, just not small one-offs like this.
Title: Re: Clack Factory "3D" Skull Keycap (Topre) in stock
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 27 August 2012, 22:49:43
They have "large" CC sales?  How many key caps would that involve?
Title: Re: Clack Factory "3D" Skull Keycap (Topre) in stock
Post by: jwaz on Mon, 27 August 2012, 23:03:52
3 per person max usually
Title: Re: Clack Factory "3D" Skull Keycap (Topre) in stock
Post by: Glissant on Mon, 27 August 2012, 23:33:25
I've gotten nine order confirmations from elitekeyboards. Is that something that usually happens from them?
Title: Re: Clack Factory "3D" Skull Keycap (Topre) in stock
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 27 August 2012, 23:45:55
Yeah - i think they only advertise large CC sales ahead of time, just not small one-offs like this.
They have "large" CC sales?  How many key caps would that involve?
3 per person max usually

Heh, no, I meant how many CC key caps would EK get in order to start a "large" sale?
Title: Re: Clack Factory "3D" Skull Keycap (Topre) in stock
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 27 August 2012, 23:49:10
I've gotten nine order confirmations from elitekeyboards. Is that something that usually happens from them?

If you end up with 9 CCs, can I buy one from you?  ;D
Title: Clack Factory "3D" Skull Keycap (Topre) in stock
Post by: jwaz on Tue, 28 August 2012, 01:04:40
I've gotten nine order confirmations from elitekeyboards. Is that something that usually happens from them?

I emailed Brian about it and they seem to have ceased.
Title: Re: Clack Factory "3D" Skull Keycap (Topre) in stock
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 28 August 2012, 01:05:39
I've gotten nine order confirmations from elitekeyboards. Is that something that usually happens from them?

I just stopped buying anything from that person.  He's a flake.  On his website states that nothing shall be sold to Australia......what the hell is that?

Yet he provides a link to the details relating to sending stuff to Oceania which is where we are located.  That guy seems to have serious issues, and I stopped handing over hundreds of dollars to him, as of now.

For me anyway, Topre has now been put away in a cupboard while I concentrate on my CherryMX and Model M collection.  At least there is no worry about some weird person controlling all distribution of a single product to the public. In fact he seems to garner all the attributes of Seinfeld's infamous 'Soup Nazi'.
Title: Re: Clack Factory "3D" Skull Keycap (Topre) in stock
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 28 August 2012, 01:43:44
I've gotten nine order confirmations from elitekeyboards. Is that something that usually happens from them?

I just stopped buying anything from that person.  He's a flake.  On his website states that nothing shall be sold to Australia......what the hell is that?

Yet he provides a link to the details relating to sending stuff to Oceania which is where we are located.  That guy seems to have serious issues, and I stopped handing over hundreds of dollars to him, as of now.

For me anyway, Topre has now been put away in a cupboard while I concentrate on my CherryMX and Model M collection.  At least there is no worry about some weird person controlling all distribution of a single product to the public. In fact he seems to garner all the attributes of Seinfeld's infamous 'Soup Nazi'.

This is Elite Keyboards?  Where does it say they do not ship to Australia?

Their FAQ specifically states that they do ship to Australia, and New Zealand.
Title: Re: Clack Factory "3D" Skull Keycap (Topre) in stock
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 28 August 2012, 01:56:09
This is Elite Keyboards?  Where does it say they do not ship to Australia?

Their FAQ specifically states that they do ship to Australia, and New Zealand.

On the 26th at around 10:37PM Perth, Western Australia time I logged into Elite Keyboards looking to purchase two coloured Topre Keysets and in the window just above Add to Cart I got this message in Red "No shipping to Australia" due to agreements with local distributors.  THAT Freaked me out.

Also I couldn't select my country for distribution, that's when I realized that this company is weird.  So I just dropped the order and left.  I wasn't surprised because we are dealing with that type of individual.  I once asked innocently why we couldn't get a particular coloured keycap from him which has actually never been available for sale off his site for more than 6 months now.  And he sent the most nasty email detailing why I shouldn't expect any product or service, due to the low numbers of people out there that have bought a Topre keyboard.  What the hell........

It was time to just leave.....and do so quite quickly.  Because handing over any more money will only help to exacerbate his behaviour.
Title: Re: Clack Factory "3D" Skull Keycap (Topre) in stock
Post by: sth on Tue, 28 August 2012, 02:01:19
Brian has demonstrated time and time again that he is reliable, trustworthy and quick to resolve conflicts. he has contracts with companies that don't want him to sell in AUS (probably because there's already a distributor in or near AUS). That is only a stiplulation of the distribution rights, not a personal vendetta against Australians. You specifically mention 'agreements with local distributors'. It's not a mafia blockade, it's how business works.
You jumped in this thread to ***** about something entirely unrelated in an entirely unhelpful way. It's unbecoming.

You sound like a ****ing jackass complaining like this. Stop whining.
Title: Re: Clack Factory "3D" Skull Keycap (Topre) in stock
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 28 August 2012, 02:09:23
Brian has demonstrated time and time again that he is reliable, trustworthy and quick to resolve conflicts. he has contracts with companies that don't want him to sell in AUS (probably because there's already a distributor in or near AUS). That is only a stiplulation of the distribution rights, not a personal vendetta against Australians. You specifically mention 'agreements with local distributors'. It's not a mafia blockade, it's how business works.
You jumped in this thread to ***** about something entirely unrelated in an entirely unhelpful way. It's unbecoming.

You sound like a ****ing jackass complaining like this. Stop whining.

Umm, the only distributor here in Australia is PCCG and they ONLY sell their keyboards, nothing else.  Answer me why are key-caps classed as non distributed material under their so-called rules and regulations?

I'm not buying any keyboards off him, not anymore.  Simply because I don't believe in relying on ONE sole distributor to hold power over all Topre distribution to the outside world.  Sorry to cause offense to your version of free-discussion relating to this.  But isn't freedom of speech an international requirement not just a US phenomenon, for the world wide web?
Title: Re: Clack Factory "3D" Skull Keycap (Topre) in stock
Post by: longweight on Tue, 28 August 2012, 02:15:49
Brian has demonstrated time and time again that he is reliable, trustworthy and quick to resolve conflicts. he has contracts with companies that don't want him to sell in AUS (probably because there's already a distributor in or near AUS). That is only a stiplulation of the distribution rights, not a personal vendetta against Australians. You specifically mention 'agreements with local distributors'. It's not a mafia blockade, it's how business works.
You jumped in this thread to ***** about something entirely unrelated in an entirely unhelpful way. It's unbecoming.

You sound like a ****ing jackass complaining like this. Stop whining.

Umm, the only distributor here in Australia is PCCG and they ONLY sell their keyboards, nothing else.  Answer me why are key-caps classed as non distributed material under their so-called rules and regulations?

I'm not buying any keyboards off him, not anymore.  Simply because I don't believe in relying on ONE sole distributor to hold power over all Topre distribution to the outside world.  Sorry to cause offense to your version of free-discussion relating to this.  But isn't freedom of speech an international requirement not just a US phenomenon, for the world wide web?

He doesn't hold the world wide distributorship, if others want to set up national distributions then they are more than welcome to, don't blame the lack of demand on Brian.
Title: Re: Clack Factory "3D" Skull Keycap (Topre) in stock
Post by: sth on Tue, 28 August 2012, 02:16:39
Again, and for the last time, Topre sets the rules. Topre makes the keyboards. Topre makes the keys. Topre decides who sells them and where. 

You don't like it? Take it up with them. Don't come in here to stir up ****.
Title: Re: Clack Factory "3D" Skull Keycap (Topre) in stock
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 28 August 2012, 02:28:47
And what about Clacks Factory skull keys?  If EK is his exclusive distributor (as I read somewhere here), can Aussies buy those from EK?

If there is an Australian distributor for the skull keys please let me know!!!

It usually doesn't make sense for Aussies to buy keyboards from overseas anyway as shipping is generally $60..$70, but buying key caps from overseas (US/EU for eaxmple) would make sense.
Title: Re: Clack Factory "3D" Skull Keycap (Topre) in stock
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 28 August 2012, 02:30:04
He doesn't hold the world wide distributorship, if others want to set up national distributions then they are more than welcome to, don't blame the lack of demand on Brian.

"Lack of Demand" doesn't that entail encouraging the buying public to purchase the product by providing a "service".  This was just since last Sunday when you get behaviour that shows the opposite in that regards.  I'm not here telling everyone not to buy anything from him, because there is a "so-called" small amount of buyers still wanting to use Topre keyboards/keycaps here on Geekhack.

Maybe he (Brian) is so upset with that who knows, but if you want to encourage others to use your service you do not berate and belittle the customers, thinking that it will promote increased sales.  It's usually the opposite way of turning an income, simple business 101.

Because the world is now in a recession, I suspect that the OLD way of doing things including negative (Soup-Nazi) behaviour towards people needs to end.  If you want increased sales you need to take the initiative and make friends.  Making friends helps to sell any product to anyone.  That is why the old business model of being nasty towards people will only produce negative results.  Being positive will only produce positive results.  Brian needs to be more positive with his attitude and be more inclusive with his business dealings that will help to keep his head above the waters of bankruptcy and promote the use of Realforce keyboards throughout the world TODAY.
Title: Re: Clack Factory "3D" Skull Keycap (Topre) in stock
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 28 August 2012, 02:56:39
To help promote the use of Realforce in general, has anyone tried to get a Group Buy in custom designed Key-caps going with Brian?  Just thought of putting that out there, not cause a riot or stir things up, but to get more interest in his products and help him to increase his sales.

I'm not trying to be funny here........
Title: Clack Factory "3D" Skull Keycap (Topre) in stock
Post by: cactux on Tue, 28 August 2012, 02:59:29
^ 002 and guess what he said no
Title: Re: Clack Factory "3D" Skull Keycap (Topre) in stock
Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 28 August 2012, 09:31:50
So what you guys are saying is that if I keep checking back, there's a chance they'll have some stock and I can get one?
Title: Re: Clack Factory "3D" Skull Keycap (Topre) in stock
Post by: Glissant on Tue, 28 August 2012, 09:56:48
Pretty much, dorkvader :).
Title: Re: Clack Factory "3D" Skull Keycap (Topre) in stock
Post by: ekw808 on Tue, 28 August 2012, 10:12:01
Yes, there might be different ones as well, depending on how many duplicates were placed and how many people did not follow the rules of the 3/customer and no duplicates.