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Title: Prospective Buy
Post by: aeropress on Tue, 28 August 2012, 18:42:18
Cherry Blue Flico Majetouch 2 White Tenkeyless Ninja (Otaku Style) with 50A-R .4mm o-ring dampers.

I'm trying to write more fiction, I want something solid and clean that's not going to drive my significant-other bat**** from the noise.  I read through the summer cherry tester, and I'm settling with the blues because people seemed to agree on the tactile feedback feeling nice.

For a second board I'd want to get a tenkey cherry red board, whatever was cheap and uncluttered with media buttons.  I'd use the softest o-rings you can get.     

Anyone have a similar setup to either board?
Title: Re: Prospective Buy
Post by: ra7c7er on Tue, 28 August 2012, 18:49:18
If you are thinking blues but noise is a concern why not go with browns? From what I have seen blues with 0-rings (extra cost) is pretty near the same noise level as just getting browns to start with.
Title: Re: Prospective Buy
Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 28 August 2012, 18:51:32
I think O-rings are great, but not everyone agrees.

Reduced travel, reduced shock, reduced noise, but the "business end" is unchanged.

What more could you want?
Title: Re: Prospective Buy
Post by: ra7c7er on Tue, 28 August 2012, 18:56:44
I think O-rings are great, but not everyone agrees.

Reduced travel, reduced shock, reduced noise, but the "business end" is unchanged.

What more could you want?

Not saying o-rings aren't great but if noise his one of his buying factors the browns would be a better choice and you are getting the same hardness of switch. If he really wanted o-rings he could put rings on browns and it would still "feel" the same just without the click noise.

I've got 50a o-rings coming on the board I bought so it's not like I'm against the o-rings I was just trying to give him an alternative because he specifically mentioned noise as a factor in his buy.
Title: Re: Prospective Buy
Post by: aeropress on Tue, 28 August 2012, 19:02:20
I don't mind a little bit of noise, and the o-ring is also about fatigue.
Title: Re: Prospective Buy
Post by: N8N on Tue, 28 August 2012, 19:11:50
I agree, I do not see blues as being particularly quiet even with o-rings.  Browns or clears (can't get a Filco, but can I interest you in a nice Leopold?) would be better options IMHO.

Honestly, the quietest "good" board may be something like a SGI Granite because even the non-clicky Cherry MX switches will make some noise when the switches return to the top.  Unfortunately, this isn't the kind of thing that you can "try before you buy" to see if you like it, because the only boards that I'm aware of that came with the dampened Alps creams are the Granite and the Apple Extended Keyboard II.  However, Matias is supposed to be releasing new switches soon which will be "quieter and more tactile" than Cherry switches...  presumably being concurrent with the introduction of a new version of the Tactile Pro keyboard.

More info here:

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=32769.0

The "orange switch" referred to in that thread sounds similar to the old school creams but I don't know that anyone's had the opportunity to test drive any, yet.  Again, per that thread, "The new keyboards are still on track for a late-August / early-Sept release" so, um, any day now?

I'm not sure whether I prefer my clears or a SGI board for typing feel, because they have very different personalities.  The Cherry clears (and to an extent, browns) do not have a sharp tactile point but instead a bit of a "bump" in the force required to depress the switch about halfway down, which corresponds to the actuation/reset point.  The Alps have a very crisp tactile point near the top of the travel and force falls off dramatically after that, meaning that you're hitting the dampeners on every keystroke - no "floating" to avoid bottoming out on an Alps board.  I'm not sure that I've ever really warmed up to any un-dampened Alps board, although I do like the Granite.  It's one of those things where I have both and can see myself switching back and forth between them as my mood changes.