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geekhack Community => Keyboard Keycaps => Topic started by: Danny356 on Sat, 01 September 2012, 02:52:47
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What color blank key cap would show the least noticeable amount of shine/wear? Would be in a well lit office type of environment.
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White usually. And some shades of grey.
Black is usually the most noticeable for shine.
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Wouldn't that depend more on the key cap material than the colour?
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White usually. And some shades of grey.
Black is usually the most noticeable for shine.
I have some white keycaps from WASD and they definitely shine. I'm really just guessing, but grey or beige might be better.
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Just polish them all and make them all shine. Problem solved.
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All colours will become shiny as they all start out matte and end up smooth.
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I would think that white would be the least noticeable and darker colors would show shine the most.
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PBT colored.
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Agreed, just go PBT and you won't have to worry about shines for a while.
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PBT colored.
PBT is my favourite color.
I don't mind shiny keycaps: Reminds me of my Selectric typewriter: Old School!
The reason I think white is less noticeable shiny is because shine or glare is normally bright white, and it'd blend it better to the already white keycaps, as opposed to the black keycaps, which would contrast to it. That's my theory, anyway.
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PBT colored.
PBT is my favourite color.
I don't mind shiny keycaps: Reminds me of my Selectric typewriter: Old School!
The reason I think white is less noticeable shiny is because shine or glare is normally bright white, and it'd blend it better to the already white keycaps, as opposed to the black keycaps, which would contrast to it. That's my theory, anyway.
White reflects more light than black, so the gradient is smaller and the shine is less noticeable.
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PBT colored.
PBT is my favourite color.
I don't mind shiny keycaps: Reminds me of my Selectric typewriter: Old School!
The reason I think white is less noticeable shiny is because shine or glare is normally bright white, and it'd blend it better to the already white keycaps, as opposed to the black keycaps, which would contrast to it. That's my theory, anyway.
White reflects more light than black, so the gradient is smaller and the shine is less noticeable.
what gradient, lol that's making stuff up right there. :p
Maybe color constancy plays a role. :-*
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PBT colored.
PBT is my favourite color.
I don't mind shiny keycaps: Reminds me of my Selectric typewriter: Old School!
The reason I think white is less noticeable shiny is because shine or glare is normally bright white, and it'd blend it better to the already white keycaps, as opposed to the black keycaps, which would contrast to it. That's my theory, anyway.
White reflects more light than black, so the gradient is smaller and the shine is less noticeable.
what gradient, lol that's making stuff up right there. :p
Maybe color constancy plays a role. :-*
(These take into account only light in the axis of concern)
Light reflected = total incident light - light scattered due to surface roughness - light absorbed
difference between shine reflection and non shine reflection = ABS [ (light scattered due to surface shine - light scattered due to surface roughness) ]
Light gradient = difference between shine reflection and non shine reflection / light reflected
Here, "light reflected" will be higher for white and lower for black due to less light being absorbed.
That results in a smaller difference between shine and no shine areas on white in relation to a higher reflected light total.
Q.E.D.
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PBT colored.
PBT is my favourite color.
I don't mind shiny keycaps: Reminds me of my Selectric typewriter: Old School!
The reason I think white is less noticeable shiny is because shine or glare is normally bright white, and it'd blend it better to the already white keycaps, as opposed to the black keycaps, which would contrast to it. That's my theory, anyway.
White reflects more light than black, so the gradient is smaller and the shine is less noticeable.
So you think it's the differing albedo? I like you way of putting it as a lesser colour gradient. The terminology quite fits.
If one had a green-lit room (think thesoulhunter), then green keycaps might be better than white
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In that case: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34873.msg645247#msg645247
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PBT colored.
PBT is my favourite color.
I don't mind shiny keycaps: Reminds me of my Selectric typewriter: Old School!
The reason I think white is less noticeable shiny is because shine or glare is normally bright white, and it'd blend it better to the already white keycaps, as opposed to the black keycaps, which would contrast to it. That's my theory, anyway.
White reflects more light than black, so the gradient is smaller and the shine is less noticeable.
So you think it's the differing albedo? I like you way of putting it as a lesser colour gradient. The terminology quite fits.
If one had a green-lit room (think thesoulhunter), then green keycaps might be better than white
Yes, differing albedo. Higher albedo will produce a higher "noise floor" for the shine/no-shine gradient and make it less noticeable.
If the walls are green and the key caps are green, green light reflecting off the walls will then reflect again off the key caps, but not be absorbed as much as other colors.
This would decrease the "light absorbed" value which would increase the "light reflected" value. If the light reflected is increased, the light gradient would be decreased and the relative difference of the shine versus no shine would be decreased and shine would not be as noticeable.
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Those old white/beige IBM Model M keyboards were very resistent to that kind of wear. Apple also made a full-size white (heavy-duty) keyboard back in the early '90s that never shined up no matter how much I pounded on it.
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Those old white/beige IBM Model M keyboards were very resistent to that kind of wear. Apple also made a full-size white (heavy-duty) keyboard back in the early '90s that never shined up no matter how much I pounded on it.
'cause the Apple Extended keyboard and the IBM keyboards both used PBT keycaps.
That's why "pbt coloured" keycaps don't shine.
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i should take a picture of my AEKII. the case is disgusting but the keys are sparkling white.
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For old time's sake:
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that one actually looks pretty decent. the body on mine is very yellow.
in related news i got an imate in the mail so i might actually start using my aek!
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@PointyFox
Are involved in some sort of image/video processing/compression development by chance?
Just asking because your way of explaining this things sound so familiar to me... >.>
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White usually. And some shades of grey.
Black is usually the most noticeable for shine.
All 50 shades of grey work
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@PointyFox
Are involved in some sort of image/video processing/compression development by chance?
Just asking because your way of explaining this things sound so familiar to me... >.>
Nope!
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A deep hue of off-auburn periwinkle with a cream wine lime base.
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A deep hue of off-auburn periwinkle with a cream wine lime base.
Made me lol