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Title: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: sth on Mon, 17 September 2012, 18:17:38
update: sleabo has mentioned that 50 MOQ might be enough to go ahead with this buy since he can probably sell the leftovers. more pre-orders are better!!
in addition QWERkeys will be adding charcoal/dark grey to their color lineup!

Hey bros and babes
Been thinking about how cool a full set of QWERkeys would be so I contacted them and got a quote.
Prices are about 75GBP (give or take, i forget exactly right now), at MOQ of 50 sets. that includes everything execpt the spacebar, for which there is an MOQ of 500... so unless we get a ridiculous number of orders I think we might need someone with an SP color ring to approximate the closest color for spacebars :(

Colorwise, I was thinking yellow on dark grey, but we can discuss that if there is significant interest. I may not be the one to run the group buy but I figure enough people have been talking about it for a while that we should see what the interest is like.


CURRENT IDEAS
Full set, colors up for discussion. Dark keys seem to be pretty popular. This will end up costing about 120-130 USD.
RGB set - The most economical option at this time. Everybody loves RGB!
Complete modifier set - Perhaps the best compromise and the easiest way to get all of the molds produced for future GBs.

PROFILE: I wanna do J profile, cherry compatible. Perhaps we could throw in an extra Esc key in the tripleshot option?
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set
Post by: The_Beast on Mon, 17 September 2012, 18:26:42
This is going to be a hard sell, but it is a pretty sweet set :(


Color me semi-interested
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set
Post by: sth on Mon, 17 September 2012, 18:33:42
i know, but LOOK at these. LOOK!

(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0157/7886/products/gamer3_1024x1024.jpg?486)
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set
Post by: pasph on Mon, 17 September 2012, 18:35:13
Interested in 1 or + set of modifiers
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set
Post by: sth on Mon, 17 September 2012, 18:35:38
a whole set or just modifiers?
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set
Post by: SmallFry on Mon, 17 September 2012, 18:36:53
Do orange on charcoal!
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set
Post by: 1391401 on Mon, 17 September 2012, 18:38:14
QWER keys has some awesome colors too, I'd factor that into the IC somehow... I ordered some random blanks just to see how they were and the colors were so cool I still use them for F1-F12
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set
Post by: sth on Mon, 17 September 2012, 18:38:23
Do orange on charcoal!
I knew that was going to come up :)) We'll see... yellow is so much nicer than orange though :D
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set
Post by: pasph on Mon, 17 September 2012, 19:00:08
a whole set or just modifiers?
Are the modifiers that have that MOQ for the combination size-base color.
You can buy a 51 set of caps like that in the picture without any MOQ (i have same samples like green on gray).
So from my point of view it's better buy 3 modifiers set than an 86 set.
Or i'm interested in a set like this function row
(http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/297560_333405766752985_1570785421_n.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set
Post by: oneproduct on Mon, 17 September 2012, 19:02:13
Would they all have to have the same legend style and/or color scheme? Or can we do anything we like and we're just trying to rustle up numbers so that they'd have a reason to get mods?
Title: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set
Post by: tsangan on Mon, 17 September 2012, 19:11:18
they can do modifiers now?
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set
Post by: pasph on Mon, 17 September 2012, 19:12:33
Well they made for me this set (don't ask please):
65 keys J Series engraved and infilled: 22 Sky blue with black legends + 22 Sky blue with blue legends + 9 Sky blue with red legends + 8 Blue with red legends + 4 Blue with yellow legends
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set
Post by: sth on Mon, 17 September 2012, 19:13:13
pretty sure it would be one set otherwise they'd have to re-set up the molds and everything which would be a huge time sink.

pasph - you get way keys with the set for the same price as what they're selling the 51/whatever set for. this group buy is for stuff they don't currently make, partly to encourage them to keep making cool stuff, partly because their work looks amazing and partly because we REALLY need a better supplier than SP.

oneproduct/pasph... don't mean to sound rude but group buys need to be cohesive or they just won't work.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set
Post by: sth on Mon, 17 September 2012, 19:14:26
Well they made for me this set (don't ask please):
65 keys J Series engraved and infilled: 22 Sky blue with black legends + 22 Sky blue with blue legends + 9 Sky blue with red legends + 8 Blue with red legends + 4 Blue with yellow legends
so are any of those keys larger than 1x? that's really the impetus for doing a whole set is to get those. if we don't do a GB for them it might take even longer for QWER to be able to do mods. Not saying we need to be a bridge loan for them but they're community members and I would much rather my money go to them than SP for a variety of reasons...
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: The_Beast on Mon, 17 September 2012, 19:24:12
Maybe start with a RGB mod set?
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: sth on Mon, 17 September 2012, 19:29:53
it's a possibility. wouldn't cover enter, caps lock, tab/|\ or backspace though.
I'll see if I can get a quote on RGB for now.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: pasph on Mon, 17 September 2012, 19:29:56
All of them was 1x1.
If an 86 caps GB can help QWER to do mods i'm in for sure, i just prefer, if it is possible, also, beside it, an alternate color modifiers sub-set, like in the RA or Valentine gb.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: The_Beast on Mon, 17 September 2012, 19:35:28
IDK do the RGB to show interest in his product and maybe he'll front the money for the enter, caps..... molds or use the money from the RGB and buy those molds for the rest of the mods? IDK I'm just thrown out ideas so that we can get stuff done ^__^


Does he have a series that is close to cherry profile. I got the lambda key today, and they are super thick for ABS and really nice, but the profile is closer to OEM :(
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: sth on Mon, 17 September 2012, 19:36:00
All of them was 1x1.
If an 86 caps GB can help QWER to do mods i'm in for sure, i just prefer, if it is possible, also, beside it, an alternate color modifiers sub-set, like in the RA or Valentine gb.

Yeah I gotcha, that is understandable... but keep in mind you're one of the lucky ones with a nearly-whole set :D

I just sent an email regarding modifier pricing at MOQ of 100. Are people interested mostly in 1.25? Would there be major objection to doing 1.25 and 1.5 mods in one set, plus maybe a short right shift? The short right shift is definitely the weak link there, and I know 1.5 is not as common but I am kinda getting sick of all the 'base set + addon' kits... it just raises prices for everybody, and we all know the resale market is doing fine.
Not to pick on Rag by any means but the red alert set that he ran ended up costing more for all the sets put together than the original RA set and that came with more keys afaik, and the reason is because the number of orders for the more esoteric keys were so low. If everybody is willing to pony up and get a key or two they don't need, it will be cheaper now AND in the future. Just my 2c though.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: Ragnorock on Mon, 17 September 2012, 19:37:06
$121 for a base 86 key set? Kindof expensive, what kind of keys are they?
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: sth on Mon, 17 September 2012, 19:37:12
IDK do the RGB to show interest in his product and maybe he'll front the money for the enter, caps..... molds or use the money from the RGB and buy those molds for the rest of the mods? IDK I'm just thrown out ideas so that we can get stuff done ^__^


Does he have a series that is close to cherry profile. I got the lambda key today, and they are super thick for ABS and really nice, but the profile is closer to OEM :(
The J series is a replica of the cherry profile.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: The_Beast on Mon, 17 September 2012, 19:38:10
I'm a 1.25 mod kinda guy, but if it isn't really that much more ($3-5 per set) it would be a good idea.


$121 for a base 86 key set? Kindof expensive, what kind of keys are they?

Have you seen how thick the keys are? it's damn thick bro
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: sth on Mon, 17 September 2012, 19:38:29
$121 for a base 86 key set? Kindof expensive, what kind of keys are they?
Yeah... it's definitely not cheap but it would be supporting a small business with roots in the community, which is valuable to me. Hopefully to others as well. Plus it would encourage them to branch out into new materials and things. They are laser engraved + infilled ABS, I know, not the best, but I think they look way better than most SP stuff.

Sorry for all the posts in a row!
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: elton5354 on Mon, 17 September 2012, 19:39:40
How about a set in transparency? http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33316.0
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: The_Beast on Mon, 17 September 2012, 19:41:38
How about a set in transparency? http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33316.0

I don't like the 100% clear, but he did have some that looked like paper but still let light through. I'd be on board for those and I don't have a backlit board to put them on ^___^
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: sth on Mon, 17 September 2012, 19:41:40
I dunno, I'm not a big fan of those... my favorite thing about QK is their solid colors + legends. They would be cool for a single key to show off your switch type though :)
I could see a separate GB for each common cherry MX color.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: terrpn on Mon, 17 September 2012, 19:48:55
so basically $122 US dollars for an 87 set that includes mods (but no space bar)?
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: sth on Mon, 17 September 2012, 19:50:33
so basically $122 US dollars for an 87 set that includes mods (but no space bar)?
Yes. Though at this point we're discussing just a modifier set which should be considerably cheaper.
Title: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: noog on Mon, 17 September 2012, 19:51:52
I'd be in though the colors do not interest me. Sound silly but a grey on black would be my preference.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: sth on Mon, 17 September 2012, 19:52:58
Sure, we're only in discussion mode now so all ideas will be considered :)
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: The_Beast on Mon, 17 September 2012, 19:53:06
I'd be in though the colors do not interest me. Sound silly but a grey on black would be my preference.

This will be the hardest thing to over come, picking a color :(
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: Halverson on Mon, 17 September 2012, 20:03:32
After sinking so much into R4...can't really justify another full set of caps, especially at that price. But as for a modifier set, I would be keen in getting in on one of those. I really do like the way they do the triple colour style thing, like the GeekHack they recently did. Could possibly do a tri-tone colour of modifiers? Like charcoal sides, orange top and white letters. Just a thought, the problem with QWERkeys is the infinite possibilities in colour and arrangement hah.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: sth on Mon, 17 September 2012, 20:05:23
I'm not sure about their modifier tripleshot capability. It might be more prudent to have solid mods for cost and appeal reasons, but maybe I'm just the only one that's not that into the novelty of triple shot molding :)
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: pasph on Mon, 17 September 2012, 20:06:25
13 base colors (14 with charcoal?) and 6 legends colors...how to make a pool?
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: Halverson on Mon, 17 September 2012, 20:07:10
I'm not sure about their modifier tripleshot capability. It might be more prudent to have solid mods for cost and appeal reasons, but maybe I'm just the only one that's not that into the novelty of triple shot molding :)

I think I'm just in love with colours...you'd probably vomit if you saw my ducky rabbit and cherry 8100....
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: demik on Mon, 17 September 2012, 20:23:02
oh?

pink on orange then
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: sth on Mon, 17 September 2012, 20:23:34
GO RIDE YOUR BIKE
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: The_Beast on Mon, 17 September 2012, 20:24:16
Purple keys, orange infill


^___^
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: DarkShot on Mon, 17 September 2012, 21:36:40
I think a full set of charcoal/orange would look great, with the mods charcoal and orange print, everything else orange with charcoal print.

However to make things easier, I think a straight white on orange mod set would be one of the easier things to do, as white keys and spacebars are already easily accessible, with the forward slash and tilde keys orange as well.

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll41/Dark-Shot666/orangeonwhitegreyprint.png)
(mockup borrowed from Jil's Valentine thread)
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: The_Beast on Mon, 17 September 2012, 21:39:51
I wouldn't mind a large center font like what's on a Dolch set. That's assuming we don't have to pay legend fees since it's engraved.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: sth on Mon, 17 September 2012, 21:40:45
you're thinking of Round3 not dolch. Similar colors, different legends. Dolch is basically just cherry white on dark grey.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: The_Beast on Mon, 17 September 2012, 21:42:33
you're thinking of Round3 not dolch. Similar colors, different legends. Dolch is basically just cherry white on dark grey.

That's right I am thinking of round 3. Does QWERkeys charge legend fees? (I don't see a reason why they would)
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: sth on Mon, 17 September 2012, 21:43:48
not sure. I actually really like the legends on their alphanums; that and the color choices are 2 of the main reasons i want to try to do a GB through them.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: The_Beast on Mon, 17 September 2012, 21:45:02
Fair enough,  they do look pretty good. Do we have a set color? Do we know if he can do mods? or is it still up in the air?
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: sth on Mon, 17 September 2012, 21:48:47
They can do mods but the MOQ is 100 still. I'm waiting on a quote for mods only right now. Color is not decided... but if we do just the mods I imagine might start with RGB set and work from there. First few will probably have to be novelties if they are just one or a few at a time :(
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: The_Beast on Mon, 17 September 2012, 21:51:51
Slow a long isn't ideal but if it gets us the molds for a full set, it will be worth it.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: Kellybear on Mon, 17 September 2012, 21:53:04
Show Image
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll41/Dark-Shot666/orangeonwhitegreyprint.png)

(mockup borrowed from Jil's Valentine thread)

Hey.. I really like this set.. if the legends on the white keys were also orange. ;x Makes me want tangerines.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: demik on Mon, 17 September 2012, 21:53:05
I think a full set of charcoal/orange would look great, with the mods charcoal and orange print, everything else orange with charcoal print.

However to make things easier, I think a straight white on orange mod set would be one of the easier things to do, as white keys and spacebars are already easily accessible, with the forward slash and tilde keys orange as well.

Show Image
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll41/Dark-Shot666/orangeonwhitegreyprint.png)

(mockup borrowed from Jil's Valentine thread)

would be better with black legends
GO RIDE YOUR BIKE

going to the gym today! i rode bike yesterday :)
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: DarkShot on Mon, 17 September 2012, 21:57:41
would be better with black legends

Completely. Was just a quick change up in photoshop.

Hey.. I really like this set.. if the legends on the white keys were also orange. ;x Makes me want tangerines.

I agree, that one was moreso for the orange mods only.

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll41/Dark-Shot666/orangeonwhite-1.png)
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: sth on Mon, 17 September 2012, 21:59:37
would be better with black legends

too halloweeny! orange is a little ostentatious for my taste but really, this group buy is to get the molds ready so we can do more in the future... just don't see orange and white being popular enough for 100. it's possible though!
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: The_Beast on Mon, 17 September 2012, 22:00:03
PURPLE
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: Halverson on Mon, 17 September 2012, 22:02:19
Orange creamsicle would be slick! Although purple and green is a nice combo.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: The_Beast on Mon, 17 September 2012, 22:02:51
Purple and orange



think bout it bros, it's nice
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: DarkShot on Mon, 17 September 2012, 22:05:01
PURPLE

Purple'n'orange?

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll41/Dark-Shot666/purple-orange.png)

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll41/Dark-Shot666/orange-purple.png)
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: Halverson on Mon, 17 September 2012, 22:05:37
Although if memory serves me, the QWERkey purple is more magenta. Think a dark purple would be better.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: demik on Mon, 17 September 2012, 22:07:26
would be better with black legends

too halloweeny! orange is a little ostentatious for my taste but really, this group buy is to get the molds ready so we can do more in the future... just don't see orange and white being popular enough for 100. it's possible though!

but halloween is awesome? girls can dress slutty and we all win!
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: alixinhzai on Mon, 17 September 2012, 22:11:57
I like orange and chocolate, helveltica font :) will mockup it soon :P
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: The_Beast on Mon, 17 September 2012, 22:12:38
I was thinking all purple keys with orange legends
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: sth on Mon, 17 September 2012, 22:12:56

but halloween is awesome? girls can dress slutty and we all win!
you stay classy LA
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: Kellybear on Mon, 17 September 2012, 22:31:23

Show Image
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll41/Dark-Shot666/orangeonwhite-1.png)


I like this, haha. Idk how popular it would be but I really like it.. ._.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: leesofi on Mon, 17 September 2012, 22:41:49
QWER have limited colors.
Sleabo said 'some new colors will be open'.
but charcoal is not available now, i think.
Orange on charcoal set is need~!!
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: TDub on Tue, 18 September 2012, 03:20:55
Are these doubleshots? Most of their kits don't specify and the function key set even says engraved and infilled?
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: Icarium on Tue, 18 September 2012, 03:39:50
Afair they only do engraved and infilled.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: TDub on Tue, 18 September 2012, 05:06:08
So why are they more expensive then a set from SP?  Are the keys themselves a better quality? In pictures of their half life key they seem a lot thicker than most doubleshots.  Are they all like that?
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: sth on Tue, 18 September 2012, 05:08:15
you can check out their website at qwerkeys.co.uk to see examples of their work.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: tsangan on Tue, 18 September 2012, 05:10:44
honestly no point in doing just a modifier set it would definitely feel weird using DS with engraved infilled, I say go big or go home either a 86/87 keys or nothing at all
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 18 September 2012, 05:11:06
Purple'n'orange?
Only if you're a Lakers fan. Otherwise, that's not a great color combo IMO
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 18 September 2012, 10:57:46
I do like the idea of a complete GH classic colorscheme charcoal, orange and white set.
I have talked with sleabo a few times about various potential buys, and unless I am mistaken the 100 MOQ on modifiers needed the same base color, but could split up the infill colors to whatever since it is a secondary process. If that's the case I think it would be easier to settle on something neutral like dark grey and people can do white, orange, pink or whatever they may prefer for thier legend infill.
I was actually thinking of trying a buy with them soon for a few various small sets like CMYK mods (C M and Y on black keys, and set with reveresed caps lock and control positions on beige. But the high prices due to them being UK based and high MOQ for the keys I have been pretty hesitant.
 
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: DarkShot on Tue, 18 September 2012, 11:42:50
I do like the idea of a complete GH classic colorscheme charcoal, orange and white set.
 

Something akin to this?

I tried out playing with charcoal legends on the orange keys, but they look less than desirable.

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll41/Dark-Shot666/GHcolours.png)
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: alixinhzai on Tue, 18 September 2012, 11:47:14
because qwerkeys have limit colout atm T_T I can choise this colour for halloween

[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 18 September 2012, 12:04:01
Actually, I was thinking more like all dark grey keys with orange legends on the alpha numerics and white on the modifiers...
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: alixinhzai on Tue, 18 September 2012, 12:34:56
but, white colour for halloween :(
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: Appeac on Tue, 18 September 2012, 12:38:20
I wouldn't mind recreating the graphite set with black text on qwerkey's teal caps.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: jwaz on Tue, 18 September 2012, 12:41:34
I must say an OG Geekhack theme has my vote. IDK about orange mods though... Gray w/ Charcoal mods and RGB :cool:


PS: and in Colemak layout!
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 18 September 2012, 12:43:56
I was not talking about for Halloween set. For a Halloween set surely we would need a Michael Myers key! Anyway, similar to the setup leesofi has shown with the orange legend Cherry 2shots, perfect GH set in my opinion.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: ekw808 on Tue, 18 September 2012, 12:45:13
Actually, I was thinking more like all dark grey keys with orange legends on the alpha numerics and white on the modifiers...

+1
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: sth on Tue, 18 September 2012, 13:24:32
I keep seeing a lot of love for charcoal and orange... don't you guys want to do that with the cherry legends through SP if you're gunning for a replica set?
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: tsangan on Tue, 18 September 2012, 13:27:10
QWER's font is pretty good nice and thick it will look good with charcoal and orange
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: sth on Tue, 18 September 2012, 13:28:55
I like it a lot too but I'd rather us come up with something that's not just aping the 'latest' drool worthy vintage set... not that I don't like replicas.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 18 September 2012, 13:42:17
Nope, not me because I won't buy SP keycaps, save for maybe R1 if its a really awesome novelty key (it's happened once). I would rather have infill than a horrible profile I can't stand to touch. Besides Arial rounded is so close to Cherry on all but a few charachters it's good enough. I am certain I have suggested this colorway before at some point. People usually don't like what I suggest enough to make it happen so it probably dosen't even matter really.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: sth on Tue, 18 September 2012, 13:48:04
Nope, not me because I won't buy SP keycaps, save for maybe R1 if its a really awesome novelty key (it's happened once). I would rather have infill than a horrible profile I can't stand to touch. Besides Arial rounded is so close to Cherry on all but a few charachters it's good enough. I am certain I have suggested this colorway before at some point. People usually don't like what I suggest enough to make it happen so it probably dosen't even matter really.
well i sure don't but now it seems like everybody else does now that the colors are associated with the 'D' word :)) it's really not that bad I'm just not a big fan of orange, especially combined with grey/black.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: demik on Tue, 18 September 2012, 19:39:09
I do like the idea of a complete GH classic colorscheme charcoal, orange and white set.
 

Something akin to this?

I tried out playing with charcoal legends on the orange keys, but they look less than desirable.

Show Image
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll41/Dark-Shot666/GHcolours.png)

the white legends on orange bother me. could you also make it charcoal or w/e grey it is you're using for the alphanumerics?
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: heliar on Tue, 18 September 2012, 20:17:04
i know, but LOOK at these. LOOK!

Show Image
(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0157/7886/products/gamer3_1024x1024.jpg?486)



yellow on green looks awesome, I will take one of that.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: ekw808 on Tue, 18 September 2012, 20:48:51
the white legends on orange bother me. could you also make it charcoal or w/e grey it is you're using for the alphanumerics?

Or all white print
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: The_Beast on Tue, 18 September 2012, 20:55:00
I do like the idea of a complete GH classic colorscheme charcoal, orange and white set.
I have talked with sleabo a few times about various potential buys, and unless I am mistaken the 100 MOQ on modifiers needed the same base color, but could split up the infill colors to whatever since it is a secondary process. If that's the case I think it would be easier to settle on something neutral like dark grey and people can do white, orange, pink or whatever they may prefer for thier legend infill.
I was actually thinking of trying a buy with them soon for a few various small sets like CMYK mods (C M and Y on black keys, and set with reveresed caps lock and control positions on beige. But the high prices due to them being UK based and high MOQ for the keys I have been pretty hesitant.
 

This would be ideal, just pick base color and worry about the infill color later.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: bollabamo on Tue, 18 September 2012, 21:02:56
I do like the idea of a complete GH classic colorscheme charcoal, orange and white set.
 

Something akin to this?

I tried out playing with charcoal legends on the orange keys, but they look less than desirable.

Show Image
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll41/Dark-Shot666/GHcolours.png)


Hooooly. I would buy a set like that in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: Kellybear on Tue, 18 September 2012, 21:08:09

Something akin to this?

I tried out playing with charcoal legends on the orange keys, but they look less than desirable.



I prefer the orange and white mockup over this :l
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: demik on Wed, 19 September 2012, 01:33:54
Purple'n'orange?
Only if you're a Lakers fan. Otherwise, that's not a great color combo IMO

being a laker fan only makes things worse.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: theultrazord on Sat, 22 September 2012, 23:37:46
I think a full set of charcoal/orange would look great, with the mods charcoal and orange print, everything else orange with charcoal print.

However to make things easier, I think a straight white on orange mod set would be one of the easier things to do, as white keys and spacebars are already easily accessible, with the forward slash and tilde keys orange as well.

Show Image
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll41/Dark-Shot666/orangeonwhitegreyprint.png)

(mockup borrowed from Jil's Valentine thread)


I would definitely be in for this set,  the orange and white set or a purple and white set for ~$120 or less
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set
Post by: Elrick on Sat, 22 September 2012, 23:43:49
they can do modifiers now?

I hope they can get into making the Modifiers, because that will give you the full 86-key set.  Although I've only ever seen the B-Series model on display I would really love if they will actually make it.

I would give anything for a FULL 86-key White on GREEN key-set.  To go with the MKC case.

(http://i1251.photobucket.com/albums/hh547/valiant24/Facepalm_zps6e4c051a.jpg)

YES, kicking myself for picking bright Green when only a neutral coloured key-set will go with that colour scheme....... so ashamed of my ......stupidity.

Title: Re: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: GMC on Sun, 23 September 2012, 04:50:22

Show Image
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll41/Dark-Shot666/GHcolours.png)


Swap this round. Orange text on charcoal modifiers.
Want a set including a 1.75 right shift and 1.25 bottom row keys for pure.  Would look great with the orange backlighting.
Title: Re: Re: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: longweight on Sun, 23 September 2012, 05:24:10

Show Image
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll41/Dark-Shot666/GHcolours.png)


Swap this round. Orange text on charcoal modifiers.
Want a set including a 1.75 right shift and 1.25 bottom row keys for pure.  Would look great with the orange backlighting.

I'm not sure that QWERkeys can do 1.75 in that row profile, could be wrong though!
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: GMC on Sun, 23 September 2012, 07:22:38
They don't do any modifiers yet. Need moq 100 for them to set up... Hence this thread.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: longweight on Sun, 23 September 2012, 07:34:33
I know, I doubt that the MOQ is to get machinery made. Surely it is to setup the machinery?
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: GMC on Sun, 23 September 2012, 08:03:53
I assumed to set up moulds for the keys also, hence the idea of getting a gb for a set of modifiers. Everyone gets a full set and qwerkeys have moulds from which to sell to order.  Have I misunderstood?
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: Marclgw on Sun, 23 September 2012, 08:25:17
In on 1.25 Modifiers, ANSI .

Will take up 2 sets if this is on.

Other than RGB is there any new color combination ?:)
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: longweight on Sun, 23 September 2012, 13:36:38
I would have thought that they already have access to the molds, it costs SP $45 for a legend mold and thousands for each key mold so I wouldn't think the MOQ includes new molds for every modifier.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: sth on Sun, 23 September 2012, 13:38:10
this has nothing to do with SP
Title: Re: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: longweight on Sun, 23 September 2012, 13:49:24
this has nothing to do with SP

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/24/u5atery4.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 23 September 2012, 13:54:46
The MOQ is just about making enough to bother to setup the machine and make a run of keys. Devlin already had the molds for probably at least 20 years or something.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: sth on Sun, 23 September 2012, 13:56:41
this has nothing to do with SP

Show Image
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/24/u5atery4.jpg)

can you explain what you were talking about when you referenced SP? it's an entirely different company with entirely different manufacturing processes and it's too damn early for me to think of any jokes.
Title: Re: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: longweight on Sun, 23 September 2012, 13:56:59
The MOQ is just about making enough to bother to setup the machine and make a run of keys. Devlin already had the molds for probably at least 20 years or something.

Will they have the short right shift mold?
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 23 September 2012, 13:59:57
I would assume so given they had some weird stuff I asked about like 1.25 home row key.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: longweight on Sun, 23 September 2012, 14:01:07
Awesome :)
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: GMC on Sun, 23 September 2012, 15:53:34
Yep. I asked about a pure mod kit from them a while back and the only barrier was the 100 moq
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: feng on Sun, 23 September 2012, 20:08:31
I do like the idea of a complete GH classic colorscheme charcoal, orange and white set.
 

Something akin to this?

I tried out playing with charcoal legends on the orange keys, but they look less than desirable.

Show Image
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll41/Dark-Shot666/GHcolours.png)


This color scheme is gorgeous! I always like that orange color from round 3 WASD kit.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: Elrick on Sun, 23 September 2012, 21:27:00
This color scheme is gorgeous! I always like that orange color from round 3 WASD kit.

I don't get the hate that's shown for Orange and Charcoal......why?

It's unique, no other recent key-set has been made using these colours (correct me if I'm wrong here), and it would add to the multitudes of great Key-set pieces that have already been made thus far.

I only hope Sleabo accepts this and starts making it soon for this Group buy.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: DarkShot on Sun, 23 September 2012, 23:44:25
One of the issues to my understanding is that they can't do charcoal coloured keycaps. Otherwise, it does look good.

They're the colours of the old website theme, so they definitely say 'Geekhack' without actually saying it.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: sth on Sun, 23 September 2012, 23:49:15
This color scheme is gorgeous! I always like that orange color from round 3 WASD kit.

I don't get the hate that's shown for Orange and Charcoal......why?

It's unique, no other recent key-set has been made using these colours (correct me if I'm wrong here), and it would add to the multitudes of great Key-set pieces that have already been made thus far.

I only hope Sleabo accepts this and starts making it soon for this Group buy.
first of all i dont know what the deal is with this light-mods/dark-inputs blasphemy. you might as well dig out the keyboard that came with your parents' HP that still has all the stickers on it with taste that bad :))

second, if you want that color scheme in the right order (orange inputs, dark grey mods) you had like a year to get in on round4 and you might still make it in. as much as i want to see full sets from qwerkeys i have a feeling it will take longer than round4 (counting from today, not start date).

third, yes, unfortunately no charcoal keys from QWER at this time.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: danielucf on Mon, 24 September 2012, 01:06:29
Here is a gallery comparing cherry double shots to QWERKeys gamer set (http://imgur.com/a/q7FaQ#0)
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: sth on Mon, 24 September 2012, 01:07:37
WOW the wall thickness is awesome! makes me want them even more.

what do you guys think of white on red full set?
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: sth on Mon, 24 September 2012, 01:32:29
Anyways, I don't know if this will get off the ground any time in the next month or so so maybe this should be moved to Making Stuff Together? I have another GB i am looking to start and would rather not divide my attention between 2.

If anybody else wants to try to contact QWERkeys about a modifier set please be my guest.  I have not gotten a reply to my email a few days ago.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: TDub on Mon, 24 September 2012, 07:41:25
I would really be interessted in a set of their B series. Especially since you can only buy the B series as an esc key without a MOQ. The Orange with charcoal looks cool but I am already in for an orange set from Round 4.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: oneproduct on Mon, 24 September 2012, 09:46:54
He says that he has/will have charcoal shortly: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35604.msg665862#msg665862
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: strafe on Wed, 26 September 2012, 08:19:50
B Series RGB Keycaps would be awesome if Qwerkeys can make them.  I did a quick mockup in Illustrator.  I think the top two sets would look awesome, preferably cherry replica font :D

Edit: Black text on white keys :D

(http://imageshack.us/a/img594/2762/qwerkeysrgbrev.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: The_Beast on Wed, 26 September 2012, 08:37:49
Wow, I really like the color top/white sides AND the color sides and white top. The both look dandy ^___^
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: Sleabo on Wed, 26 September 2012, 08:42:24
Just to clear up a few things.
I will accept that if you don't reach 100 MOQ's for modifiers we can still go ahead with is because I will be able to sell any spares in the long run.
We can't do space bars (500 moq) but we can do everything else in Jseries.
The MOQ's are there for mod because its not cost effective to just make 10 Mods
B series come in 1, 1.25, 1.5 and 1.75 only
thanks
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: strafe on Wed, 26 September 2012, 09:00:31
B series come in 1, 1.25, 1.5 and 1.75 only

Oh Well, I guess that rules out using B series caps for a RGB set :(
Title: Re: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: GMC on Wed, 26 September 2012, 13:29:19
Just to clear up a few things.
I will accept that if you don't reach 100 MOQ's for modifiers we can still go ahead with is because I will be able to sell any spares in the long run.
We can't do space bars (500 moq) but we can do everything else in Jseries.
The MOQ's are there for mod because its not cost effective to just make 10 Mods
B series come in 1, 1.25, 1.5 and 1.75 only
thanks

Great news, let's get this show on the road. Orange text in charcoal modifiers for a pure!
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: sth on Wed, 26 September 2012, 13:32:35
QWER dosn't have dark grey/charcoal yet.

sleabo - thanks for dropping by? can you give us a rough estimate of what our effective MOQ would be, or are you just trying to get as close to 100 as possible?

Also GHers - DT is trying to do a similar by so I'm attempting to get in touch with the organizers to see if we can team up. More keys for everyone!!
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: eon on Wed, 26 September 2012, 14:01:24
Would be nice to have an ISO left shift in the set too
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: sth on Wed, 26 September 2012, 14:04:13
that can definitely be arranged depending on interest. still waiting to hear back from DT where a lot of euro dudes hang out.
i am a big fan of just including all the keys in a series into one 'item' rather than splitting keys up into groups. it raises the price slightly across the board but it helps out people who have different keyboard layouts, and it prevents certain parts of the set from getting too hard to find after the GB ends (current tsangan-kit pandemonium is a good example).
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: Sleabo on Wed, 26 September 2012, 14:04:57
Hii
Yes we do have charcoal - I may have some samples tomorrow to post.
I am thinking about doing a new Charcoal version of the very popular half life keycap
thanks
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: sth on Wed, 26 September 2012, 14:06:09
Hii
Yes we do have charcoal - I may have some samples tomorrow to post.
I am thinking about doing a new Charcoal version of the very popular half life keycap
thanks
Hey all right! Good to hear :)
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: Sleabo on Wed, 26 September 2012, 14:08:30
Maybe looking at a minimum of 50 for me to go ahead with this
Title: Re: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: GMC on Wed, 26 September 2012, 14:13:49
Also GHers - DT is trying to do a similar by so I'm attempting to get in touch with the organizers to see if we can team up. More keys for everyone!!

Hopefully others will come over but I think the OP gave up. Hasn't moved forward for a while now.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: The_Beast on Wed, 26 September 2012, 14:19:31
Maybe looking at a minimum of 50 for me to go ahead with this

That's a really nice number

Thanks Sleabo ^___^
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: GMC on Wed, 26 September 2012, 14:31:15
Sleabo. If this comes off, will you be able after to offer modifier kits as a normal practice on your site?

If so, I'll be in regardless of the set, as I will be able to get my personal choice of colours from you after if the GB isn't quite my first choice
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 26 September 2012, 14:32:29
So are we just going for a small modifiers kit now instead of full set?
I'm down with that as long as it is: tab, caps, shifts, ctrls, alts, wins, menu, enter, backspace. If it's both ANSI and ISO in one set I am fine with that too.
I would like charcoal base, but may still be interested if there is another base color chosen.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: sth on Wed, 26 September 2012, 14:34:20
So are we just going for a small modifiers kit now instead of full set?
I'm down with that as long as it is: tab, caps, shifts, ctrls, alts, wins, menu, enter, backspace. If it's both ANSI and ISO in one set I am fine with that too.
I would like charcoal base, but may still be interested if there is another base color chosen.
this all sounds great to me. as far as legends-- i think most people are going to vote for orange but I would prefer yellow or light blue. are we going to consider 1.5x modifiers? also, sleabo if you're watching this thread, can you tell me if you can do stepped and/or off-center-stemmed caps locks?
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: Halverson on Wed, 26 September 2012, 15:14:06
Charcoal and orange would look great, but seems to be overdone a lot. Yellow on charcoal would look pretty great I think.
Title: Re: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: GMC on Wed, 26 September 2012, 15:35:02
Charcoal and orange would look great, but seems to be overdone a lot. Yellow on charcoal would look pretty great I think.
I could live with that... 8)
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: sth on Wed, 26 September 2012, 16:17:32
right?? yellow ftw!
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: dreamingftw on Wed, 26 September 2012, 16:56:13
+1 for yellow on charcoal
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 26 September 2012, 18:36:10
Maybe looking at a minimum of 50 for me to go ahead with this

This definitely seems doable.  I'm sure a Group Buy here can get at least 50 on here at Geekhack.......?

Now comes the hard part, picking what colour(s) to use with the Charcoal.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: The_Beast on Wed, 26 September 2012, 19:11:22
Sleabo can we choose a base color at a group and then a legend color on our own since you'll be engraving these and not double shooting them?
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: danielucf on Wed, 26 September 2012, 19:14:37
Sleabo can we choose a base color at a group and then a legend color on our own since you'll be engraving these and not double shooting them?
I like this idea
Title: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: wiredPANDA on Wed, 26 September 2012, 19:16:03
That's a great idea. I hope it's a possibility from Sleabo/QWER.

Would just help sell more sets.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: pasph on Wed, 26 September 2012, 19:22:53
I think the MOQ is bounded to base color not to legends color
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: DarkShot on Wed, 26 September 2012, 19:46:54
Sleabo can we choose a base color at a group and then a legend color on our own since you'll be engraving these and not double shooting them?

This would be great if it could happen.

I assume that there'd have to be a reasonable limit to each fill colour.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: The_Beast on Wed, 26 September 2012, 19:49:19
I think the MOQ is bounded to base color not to legends color

That's what I'm thinking. A dark gray set (w/ different color mods/alpha) with a pick of legend color would be damn cool
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: sth on Wed, 26 September 2012, 19:50:49
i won't speak for sleabo but i think that's a bad idea... it's going to make the organization and shipping of all these keys a real pain in the butt. unless QWER is willing to do that for us. which is not very GB-like but I would not turn down the idea.

plus you'll be able to order custom ones after the GB i imagine... would be nice to make these unique as a set.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 26 September 2012, 19:59:54
That's what I'm thinking. A dark gray set (w/ different color mods/alpha) with a pick of legend color would be damn cool

I would love if Sleabo could do this, BUT this poor guy would have an enormous problem just producing the modifiers as well.

Hence I would be happy if he could even provide a full 86-Key set for us.  That would be a FIRST for him and his company and it would be the best outcome for us all.

The colour(s) would be specified then.  Everything would be on his shoulders to now give us a quote that he/us can live with.

(PS. I would be happy with any colour since his Caps are really nice to look at and use.)
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: chaosstep on Thu, 27 September 2012, 00:55:01
+1 RGB mod
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: Sleabo on Thu, 27 September 2012, 03:39:09
Hi
yes I don't see a problem with different colours legend.
Might be looking at £75 a set, will have to confirm this, space bars excluded
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: Elrick on Thu, 27 September 2012, 03:47:41
Hi
yes I don't see a problem with different colours legend.
Might be looking at £75 a set, will have to confirm this, space bars excluded

Don't worry about the space bars, we got heaps already.  ;)
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: HRS2K on Thu, 27 September 2012, 12:38:24

Show Image
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll41/Dark-Shot666/orangeonwhite-1.png)


I would be all over this like a donkey on waffles.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: sth on Thu, 27 September 2012, 12:43:24
Hi
yes I don't see a problem with different colours legend.
Might be looking at £75 a set, will have to confirm this, space bars excluded
Is this pricing for an 86 set still? What about for keys using just the sizes you don't already have in inventory (ctrl alt win menu shift caps tab enter backslash backspace)?
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: alixinhzai on Fri, 28 September 2012, 21:37:32
right?? yellow ftw!

yeallow on charcoal and RGB?

[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: Elrick on Fri, 28 September 2012, 23:35:49

yeallow on charcoal and RGB?


I don't mind this colour combination because it would go beautifully with the proposal of Hazard Keys, currently being discussed.

Please check it out here;

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36038.msg673196#new
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: Marclgw on Sat, 29 September 2012, 00:35:33
+1 For Yellow on Charcoal.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: lyk503 on Sat, 29 September 2012, 06:05:48
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll41/Dark-Shot666/orangeonwhite-1.png)
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I vote for these. :3
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: GMC on Sat, 29 September 2012, 06:51:27
Charcoal base please but must have a short right shift as well to get these into sleabos product list.
Charcoal base looks very cool
Is it possible to centre the arrow key legends? Don't like them left aligned
Title: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: sth on Sat, 29 September 2012, 07:45:04
I would also like a short right shift in addition to 1.5 mods. A full mod set including ISO would be best I think.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: nebo on Sun, 30 September 2012, 17:49:33
I might be in the minority here but I'd really just want black on white with how nice the keys look printed, so clean and with engraving (if that was done).
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: The_Beast on Sun, 30 September 2012, 17:54:23
All we really need to do is pick base colors. Sleabo said we can have different legend colors and that the keys are the only thing we have  to worry about since those are the ones with a MQO
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: sth on Sun, 30 September 2012, 17:55:17
charcoal seems to be the big crowdpleaser this week. maybe next week we'll be back to the rainbow obsession...
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: pasph on Sun, 30 September 2012, 18:01:05
All we really need to do is pick base colors

A very simple task indeed
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36005.0
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 30 September 2012, 18:18:22
New colors, well then, clearly it should be lilac. :))
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Post by: esoomenona on Sun, 30 September 2012, 18:20:25
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Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: yuiop on Sun, 30 September 2012, 19:07:52
I'm interested in a charcoal based set but didn't sleabo mention somewhere he can't do spacebars because of its high MOQ?  If so, is there any way we can get a matching SB?  Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: sth on Sun, 30 September 2012, 19:17:25
Yeah before we pick a color we should see if we can get samples to compare to the SP color ring and pick a spacebar that matches closely
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 30 September 2012, 19:23:24
Spacebar is an alpha character, not a modifier so... unless we are going back with full set it shouldn't even matter at all.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: JSchool on Sun, 30 September 2012, 20:19:27

Show Image
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll41/Dark-Shot666/orangeonwhite-1.png)


I would be all over this like a donkey on waffles.

MUST HAZ
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: Elrick on Sun, 30 September 2012, 20:32:32
MUST HAZ

If you really want an Orange and White key-set, because Sleabo can't make a spacebar, you can order a couple off jil_jil32's Valentine Group Buy.

All White 6.2x Spacebar and  7x Spacebar's can be ordered through him/her.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: theultrazord on Mon, 01 October 2012, 02:24:02
MUST HAZ

Yeah I love that color scheme also. Maybe there should be an interest check to have that set done as SP double shots.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: nebo on Mon, 01 October 2012, 20:03:04
Got my custom ones in today and they really are quality keycaps. I can take some comparison shots for these vs these right here (http://www.vendio.com/stores/E-sports-Gaming-equipments/item/pbt-key-caps/104-105-pbt-black-on-white-key/lid=19240210). I don't know if it's normal (I don't remember mentioning it), but the F/J keys don't have any indication that they are there. I adapted quickly enough (Starcraft might get hard) but I figured I would note it as you might need to say you want that.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: DarkShot on Mon, 01 October 2012, 20:22:21
MUST HAZ

Yeah I love that color scheme also. Maybe there should be an interest check to have that set done as SP double shots.

Probably happen soon enough. I'm considering sending an email to SP and opening an IC thread as there are some that would like 'em.


Also, I think the general consensus is that most want charcoal now instead of rainbow. Won't hurt to ask again?
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Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 01 October 2012, 21:34:39
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Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: DarkShot on Tue, 02 October 2012, 00:06:04
We'd have to wait to see if Sleabo would be willing to. The thing that matters is the key colour, so who knows. If he's feeling generous we might get it.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: singaporean123 on Tue, 02 October 2012, 00:14:21
is it possible just to order the modifier set? the one with the shifts, enter, backspace, 1.25 modifiers..
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 02 October 2012, 00:52:09
am interested in a set depending on the color choice.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: Chicken Chaser on Tue, 02 October 2012, 01:15:59
OP says charcoal is back? Come on, we gotta include charcoal!!
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 02 October 2012, 01:28:02
I kinda would like to see a whole b series set but thats another thread...
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: Acetrak on Tue, 02 October 2012, 07:42:13
Interested, but it'll depend on the color options  ;D
Title: Re: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 03 October 2012, 01:23:51
I kinda would like to see a whole b series set but thats another thread...
anyone know who i would have to talk to about this?
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: The_Beast on Wed, 03 October 2012, 01:24:37
I kinda would like to see a whole b series set but thats another thread...
anyone know who i would have to talk to about this?

I would assume Sleabo since he runs QWERkeys
Title: Re: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 03 October 2012, 01:27:27
I kinda would like to see a whole b series set but thats another thread...
anyone know who i would have to talk to about this?

I would assume Sleabo since he runs QWERkeys
thanks for the info once i get infront of a pc ill starg up an interest check and contact him.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: DarkShot on Wed, 03 October 2012, 01:31:54
I kinda would like to see a whole b series set but thats another thread...
anyone know who i would have to talk to about this?

I would assume Sleabo since he runs QWERkeys
thanks for the info once i get infront of a pc ill starg up an interest check and contact him.

Don't mean to burst your bubble but..

B series come in 1, 1.25, 1.5 and 1.75 only
thanks

So that probably won't happen for a long time.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: Zarlek on Wed, 03 October 2012, 01:34:44
I have been talking to qwerkeys about the b series recently and they also only come in 1 profile
Title: Re: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 03 October 2012, 01:41:20
I kinda would like to see a whole b series set but thats another thread...
anyone know who i would have to talk to about this?

I would assume Sleabo since he runs QWERkeys
thanks for the info once i get infront of a pc ill starg up an interest check and contact him.

Don't mean to burst your bubble but..

B series come in 1, 1.25, 1.5 and 1.75 only
thanks

So that probably won't happen for a long time.

 Wow thats more option than i thought they would have. I thought they would only have 1x caps

 
I have been talking to qwerkeys about the b series recently and they also only come in 1 profile

Yep would be a bit odd typing on but would look really cool and depending what the profile is some people do like flat keycaps. But truthfully that blue/white/red just caught my eye.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: Acetrak on Thu, 04 October 2012, 22:02:41
Is this still going on? Or did everyone abandon ship for the orange charcoal thread hah  :p

I like the orange charcoal but I'd like to see some other color combos here!
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: sth on Thu, 04 October 2012, 22:05:53
Not sure yet. Might talk with the Massdrop dudes to handle logistics and billing.
Will try to spend some time to hammer down a couple final options based on what is popular through this thread and then maybe have a poll?
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: Acetrak on Thu, 04 October 2012, 22:18:50
Not sure yet. Might talk with the Massdrop dudes to handle logistics and billing.
Will try to spend some time to hammer down a couple final options based on what is popular through this thread and then maybe have a poll?

Good to hear. I'm kinda banking on this GB cause I'm not exactly the biggest fan for orange lol
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: sth on Thu, 04 October 2012, 22:20:25
Me neither :) I've just been a little busy to spend much time on this right now... hence massdrop :)
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: zzAaron on Fri, 05 October 2012, 01:11:14
down for it if its  still going
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: The_Beast on Fri, 05 October 2012, 01:13:11
Not sure yet. Might talk with the Massdrop dudes to handle logistics and billing.
Will try to spend some time to hammer down a couple final options based on what is popular through this thread and then maybe have a poll?

Use google forms, it's the best thing ever (if you set it up right, lol)
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: Elrick on Fri, 05 October 2012, 02:18:36
Use google forms, it's the best thing ever (if you set it up right, lol)

You bet.  Need a Colour Selection form to happen with QWERkeys.  Just to offer some more decent key-sets for the hard-core collectors.

Plus Sleabo said he has more colours on offer.  Just wish he would post them on his website already.
Title: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: Halverson on Fri, 05 October 2012, 02:24:55
The new colours...my wallet will cry when I see them. I can see it now....green on green on green caps. ;)
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: Elrick on Fri, 05 October 2012, 04:17:54
The new colours...my wallet will cry when I see them. I can see it now....green on green on green caps. ;)

Damn, you've been reading my mind....... I wanna roll in Green.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: pasph on Fri, 05 October 2012, 05:58:16
green on yellow and yellow on green?
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: Acetrak on Fri, 05 October 2012, 07:59:50
Sleabo said something about cherry fonts in the somewhat-near-future too right?

Wish that's an option when this gets going, I love the mix of old school style and unique color combos.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: danielucf on Fri, 05 October 2012, 08:08:13
His current font is already really close to cherry. sort of.
(http://i.imgur.com/nXmG5.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: emptythecache on Fri, 05 October 2012, 10:19:10
If anyone is still entertaining ideas for an RGBY set, the series B with white/black inside the RGBY with RGBY legends would be awesome. So would RGBY inside Black with Black legends.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: Marclgw on Sat, 06 October 2012, 04:09:33
If STH wouldn't mind, I am looking forward to start up the RGBY kits IC cum group buy on GH?
Title: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: sth on Sat, 06 October 2012, 13:09:37
As long as it is not a for profit group buy I am fine with it :) not that there is a lot of room for a profit margin.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 07 October 2012, 00:21:57
As long as it is not a for profit group buy I am fine with it :) not that there is a lot of room for a profit margin.

As long as it is not a for profit group buy I am fine with it :) not that there is a lot of room for a profit margin.

Deja vu.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: asura on Sun, 07 October 2012, 12:38:12
Just thought I'd register my interest here; Blank by preference if it needs legends then something muted and understated, I'm very interested in a complete charcoal grey modifier set as long as it has a short right shift (yes pure owner...) and centre stem CAPS, I'd still have a full 86 key set just to get the modifiers - though I may well play about with the rest of the caps anyway, and I'm not in the slightest bit interested in a RGB set. 
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: sth on Sun, 07 October 2012, 13:07:58
Just thought I'd register my interest here; Blank by preference if it needs legends then something muted and understated, I'm very interested in a complete charcoal grey modifier set as long as it has a short right shift (yes pure owner...) and centre stem CAPS, I'd still have a full 86 key set just to get the modifiers - though I may well play about with the rest of the caps anyway, and I'm not in the slightest bit interested in a RGB set. 

just order from WASD if you want ABS blanks
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: asura on Sun, 07 October 2012, 13:43:13
WASD do cherry profile?
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: Sifo on Sun, 07 October 2012, 13:46:34
No, only OEM.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: asura on Sun, 07 October 2012, 13:51:24
That's what I thought.  QWERKeys group buy it is.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: HansMaulwurf on Mon, 28 January 2013, 03:06:56
Any news here? Im interested in a full QWERkey set.
Title: Re: [IC] QWERkeys 86-key set? RGB mod set? -- DISCUSSION MODE
Post by: TheSoulhunter on Mon, 28 January 2013, 03:43:02
I'd be in though the colors do not interest me. Sound silly but a grey on black would be my preference.

+1
Grey on Black or Black on Charcoal... Ninja mode!