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Title: Ergo Clears
Post by: gameaholic on Mon, 01 October 2012, 22:27:50
I am interested in converting my new Filco Tenkeyless MJ2 Ninja with Reds to Ergo Clears (coming from buckling springs has me missing the tactile click) Is soldering required?  I've never soldered anything.  Could someone point me to a guide?  I've seen a video on someone popping out stems but it says they must be pcb mounted to do it that way and I've read my keyboard is plate mounted.  Which tenkeyless keyboards are pcb mounted?I've tried pming a member that offers this conversion service but I have yet to get a reply.     
Title: Re: Ergo Clears
Post by: Lethal Squirrel on Mon, 01 October 2012, 22:39:13
Soldering is required. For me it's not really the soldering part that's a pain, it's the desoldering.
The only way you can switch them without desoldering is if the switches are PCB mounted. I don't know of any tenkeyless that are PCB mounted. : (

BTW, if you're looking for a tactile click, clears aren't what you want. clears have no click, only a bump.
Title: Re: Ergo Clears
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Mon, 01 October 2012, 23:44:52
You'll need to first desolder every switch off, do the ergo-clear mod, then solder everything back.
Title: Re: Ergo Clears
Post by: tp4tissue on Mon, 01 October 2012, 23:46:25
Soldering is required. For me it's not really the soldering part that's a pain, it's the desoldering.
The only way you can switch them without desoldering is if the switches are PCB mounted. I don't know of any tenkeyless that are PCB mounted. : (

BTW, if you're looking for a tactile click, clears aren't what you want. clears have no click, only a bump.

It's not so bad, if you use soldering wick// braid... this is incredibly important in efficient de-soldering.
Title: Re: Ergo Clears
Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 02 October 2012, 18:53:19
If you just want to make the typing area into ergo clear, you don't have to remove every switch. This can save time.
Title: Re: Ergo Clears
Post by: SmallFry on Tue, 02 October 2012, 21:19:38
Also, a solder sucker works wonders better than braid. Since you have to heat the board longer when using braid, you have a higher chance of lifting a trace. Either way works though. :)
Title: Re: Ergo Clears
Post by: Sifo on Tue, 02 October 2012, 21:30:33
Solder sucker is amazing, just got one recently, soldering is ezpz now.
Title: Re: Ergo Clears
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 02 October 2012, 22:43:07
WOW, solder sucker, life changing............................
Title: Re: Ergo Clears
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 02 October 2012, 22:50:48
Solder sucker is amazing, just got one recently, soldering is ezpz now.

Which Brand/Model do you recommend?
Title: Re: Ergo Clears
Post by: alaricljs on Tue, 02 October 2012, 22:51:48
Edsyn Soldapullt, the only manual sucker worth spending money on.
Title: Re: Ergo Clears
Post by: SmallFry on Tue, 02 October 2012, 23:09:01
I usually pay for my sucker...oh, whoops...I use a generic one. It does the job for me without any hassle.
Title: Re: Ergo Clears
Post by: The_Beast on Tue, 02 October 2012, 23:12:23
I haven't used wicks, only suckers. They work ok, but sometimes it leaves a bit of solder in the hole and you have to work pretty quick
Title: Re: Re: Ergo Clears
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 03 October 2012, 00:30:56
Edsyn Soldapullt, the only manual sucker worth spending money on.
100% agree look at the silver or gold one in my opinion i got the silver as it was onsale when i was ordering.
Title: Re: Ergo Clears
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 03 October 2012, 04:15:54
Ok, guys, is there an "automatic one" since all of these are manual?

I have near unlimited funds when it comes to tool purchases..
Title: Re: Re: Ergo Clears
Post by: SmallFry on Wed, 03 October 2012, 07:53:52
Ok, guys, is there an "automatic one" since all of these are manual?

I have near unlimited funds when it comes to tool purchases..
GIYF.Look it up.
Title: Re: Ergo Clears
Post by: alaricljs on Wed, 03 October 2012, 08:05:52
Hakko 808

Or if you *really* mean unlimited, look at either Hakko or Weller rework stations.
Title: Re: Ergo Clears
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 03 October 2012, 15:09:15
Hakko 808

Or if you *really* mean unlimited, look at either Hakko or Weller rework stations.
i want that 808 but dont have funds :(