utter crap, and damn them for buying up my MX browns!
So... How much of it is actually mechanical, what kind of controller (NKR) does it have and who manufactures it?... Doesn't seem to be a lot of info yet.I'm not too sure the mainstream keyboard user cares about any of that stuff. We'd probably have to wait til it comes out and someone decides to buy one and tear it open.
Look at the Shape and Size, it's iONE for sure..... also, "the backlighting" and the bottom row, i'm sick to my stomach
Check out the "Delete" key in first picture :))
Logitech should just come out with a standalone small gaming lcd we can set at the top of our keyboards. Maybe throw in a volume knob and some media keys. For a while I was using my G13 just to monitor fps and gpu temps but never touched any of the keys.
Logitech should just come out with a standalone small gaming lcd we can set at the top of our keyboards. Maybe throw in a volume knob and some media keys. For a while I was using my G13 just to monitor fps and gpu temps but never touched any of the keys.
The LCD is a gimmick, I thought it'd be awesome, but then when I got my G15, I realized that there's no freaking time to "look down" at it.
Logitech should just come out with a standalone small gaming lcd we can set at the top of our keyboards. Maybe throw in a volume knob and some media keys. For a while I was using my G13 just to monitor fps and gpu temps but never touched any of the keys.
The LCD is a gimmick, I thought it'd be awesome, but then when I got my G15, I realized that there's no freaking time to "look down" at it.
Yeah... idk how many of you have spent significant time w/ mmo's, but... I'm already tired of staring at my "cooldowns," no way would i need any "lcd display" to make me spend even more time not looking at the actual game. I for one am glad they didn't put an LCD on this board.
You don't think that's a perfectly reasonable replacement? You don't NEED delete.
You don't think that's a perfectly reasonable replacement? You don't NEED delete.
Logitech should just come out with a standalone small gaming lcd we can set at the top of our keyboards. Maybe throw in a volume knob and some media keys. For a while I was using my G13 just to monitor fps and gpu temps but never touched any of the keys.
The LCD is a gimmick, I thought it'd be awesome, but then when I got my G15, I realized that there's no freaking time to "look down" at it.
Yeah... idk how many of you have spent significant time w/ mmo's, but... I'm already tired of staring at my "cooldowns," no way would i need any "lcd display" to make me spend even more time not looking at the actual game. I for one am glad they didn't put an LCD on this board.
Looking at the cooldown menu is literally 1/4 of the game. ;D
Yeah... at first, i was all excited...Wat
"OMFG LOGITECH MECH!!11!1"
Judging by looks alone, i personally think it looks good.
However...
It certainly does not conform to my preference for minimalist form-factor.
I mean... i might as well just go with the gigabyte aivia osmium. :/
I would love to see the g710 in a 60% version (or at least an "HTK"), with maybe a small macro cluster and some media keys on the top (which i guess would technically make it more of a 65-70%). Maybe an "M-row" above the F-row.
I would absolutely go with a mechanical g13 (wishwishwish) and a Pure, instead of this g710.
"Needless to say..."
I'm not exactly excited anymore.
One one hand: i want to "vote with my wallet," and encourage logitech to keep making mechs... so that maybe they'll get it right, someday.
On the other hand: i don't want to encourage them to keep making this.
me-to-logitech: "Son - i am disappoint."
:sadface:
Kinda feels like i just found out that hot, intelligent, sophisticated geek gamer chick... is actually just a dumb lazy skank. :(
:sigh:
Oh well. Maybe there's hope for the future...
Yeah... at first, i was all excited...Wat
"OMFG LOGITECH MECH!!11!1"
Judging by looks alone, i personally think it looks good.
However...
It certainly does not conform to my preference for minimalist form-factor.
I mean... i might as well just go with the gigabyte aivia osmium. :/
I would love to see the g710 in a 60% version (or at least an "HTK"), with maybe a small macro cluster and some media keys on the top (which i guess would technically make it more of a 65-70%). Maybe an "M-row" above the F-row.
I would absolutely go with a mechanical g13 (wishwishwish) and a Pure, instead of this g710.
"Needless to say..."
I'm not exactly excited anymore.
One one hand: i want to "vote with my wallet," and encourage logitech to keep making mechs... so that maybe they'll get it right, someday.
On the other hand: i don't want to encourage them to keep making this.
me-to-logitech: "Son - i am disappoint."
:sadface:
Kinda feels like i just found out that hot, intelligent, sophisticated geek gamer chick... is actually just a dumb lazy skank. :(
:sigh:
Oh well. Maybe there's hope for the future...
>minimalist
>excessive post
But surely we need at least "one" delete key.
a few people i know didn't like the g510 cause of the screen.. I like the idea of some of the features that come with this that's similar to the g510, e.g - the volume wheel, media keys that DON'T USE Fn (Thank god!) But then again i'm not too fond of the macro keys (But hey some people need em') It seems a bit fat too and the colour scheme doesn't seem to be working too well. (The random orange area at least). But i do enjoy the fact its cherry mx browns! :DI don't know: If they had 24 dedicated media keys at the top and two rows of 5 dedicated macro keys on the side there, it'd look awesome.
Show Image(http://www.recycledgoods.com/product_images/z/310/s_p_18854_1__72596_zoom.jpg)
That first one IS a desk.
Yeah, looks like 1.5 1 1.25 6.25 1.25 1 1 1.5 so it's a little better than the usual iOne arrangement since it has a standard size space bar instead of 6 unit. I wouldn't want one, but if it was between this and a Black Widow... I don't know. Since they are such a big brand I imagine they have a chance at being stocked at a lot of places that are harder to get mech boards local. I guess it will displace some of thier high price domes boards in thier line up, so that isn't a bad thing.
It's not possible, the key cap needs to fit around the switch or be the size of a switch stem to be able to depress the switch.
I've received 87key pricing from costar... They are very much NOT expensive in quantity. I don't know where to start when it comes to figuring out freight and warehousing and all, but the boards are cheap. In fact, I'm surprised at CM's QFR pricing.I am quite curious how much you're quoted for.
Name 1 quality keyboard that came out of iOne factory. Exactly. Logitards will eat this up like Razertards think Blackwidow is a nice keyboard. The like to dislike ratio on that last vid says it all.I've received 87key pricing from costar... They are very much NOT expensive in quantity. I don't know where to start when it comes to figuring out freight and warehousing and all, but the boards are cheap. In fact, I'm surprised at CM's QFR pricing.I am quite curious how much you're quoted for.
@ShakeR: I guess I didn't expect anything other than another gaudy G series keyboard. No surprise there.
@ ferociousfingerings:
I don't think it is suggested only n00bs will buy this board. It is just people should know what they're getting into with iOne and adjust the expectations. The quality isn't there for the price you pay. Some of us expect our boards to be still working in 10-20 years. iOne... Right.
@TheProfosist: I'll probably collect a TK, but I noticed both TK and G710+ has same bottom row config. Cowinkydink or same OEM?
If i'm a "n00b" just because i also like this board (in addition to the ones the elite-pros say are "best"), it wouldn't be the first time an elitist has called me noob. I've played several MMO's for extended periods, as well as quite a bit of FPS. I've seen the internets. People love being critics. People love to troll. As long as it works, i'm sure it'll be a nice board... even if it's not perfect, and isn't what all the cool kids tell me to like. :cool:
Besides... i'm kind of used to being a social pariah. :rolleyes:
Don't just sit there gawking at it man! Tear it open and tell us who made the thing! lol :p
Supposedly a guy that completely took his apart had no branding on the PCB *shrug* I think it was at overclock.net I'm just to lazy to find the review right now. I know it was posted recently at www.reddit.com/r/mechanicalkeyboards
Supposedly a guy that completely took his apart had no branding on the PCB *shrug* I think it was at overclock.net I'm just to lazy to find the review right now. I know it was posted recently at www.reddit.com/r/mechanicalkeyboards
http://www.overclock.net/t/1316586/logitech-g710-disassembly-and-modification-56k-warning#post_18376639
Supposedly a guy that completely took his apart had no branding on the PCB *shrug* I think it was at overclock.net I'm just to lazy to find the review right now. I know it was posted recently at www.reddit.com/r/mechanicalkeyboards
http://www.overclock.net/t/1316586/logitech-g710-disassembly-and-modification-56k-warning#post_18376639
Niiiiice. That black macro-panel mod... changes everything!
Ok maybe not, but it does look good...
and tempting...
Supposedly a guy that completely took his apart had no branding on the PCB *shrug* I think it was at overclock.net I'm just to lazy to find the review right now. I know it was posted recently at www.reddit.com/r/mechanicalkeyboards
http://www.overclock.net/t/1316586/logitech-g710-disassembly-and-modification-56k-warning#post_18376639
Niiiiice. That black macro-panel mod... changes everything!
Ok maybe not, but it does look good...
and tempting...
There we go, if we didn't had a good reason before for you to disassemble your keyboard and find for us what the OEM is, there's one.
Assuming that, unlike the one "hammerforged" has, mine actually has identifying markings to indicate the OEM.
So who is the OEM? ione?
So who is the OEM? ione?
bottom pic of 2nd post... (http://www.overclock.net/t/1316586/logitech-g710-disassembly-and-modification-56k-warning#post_18375557)
Supposedly a guy that completely took his apart had no branding on the PCB *shrug* I think it was at overclock.net I'm just to lazy to find the review right now. I know it was posted recently at www.reddit.com/r/mechanicalkeyboards
Looks ugly to me.
I don't like the macro keys either. I hope they make a board without.
Very disappointed.Go buy the G80-3800. It is kinda cheap feeling though.
I was hoping for a ultra low profile cherry brown board ridiculously cheap (ie $35-$50) available everywhere.
Looks ugly to me.
I don't like the macro keys either. I hope they make a board without.
They won't, the number of "gamers" who like macro keys is surprisingly bigger than the number of people who dislike them.
Also, obviously, the number of people who really don't really use those macros is surprisingly bigger than the number of people who do use them oftenly.
But hey, try to convince a 14 years old (or someone with the mentality of one) that he doesn't needs a shiny keyboard with lots of extra keys, but a good mechanical TKL keyboard for less space usage and more practical use?
Looks ugly to me.
I don't like the macro keys either. I hope they make a board without.
They won't, the number of "gamers" who like macro keys is surprisingly bigger than the number of people who dislike them.
Also, obviously, the number of people who really don't really use those macros is surprisingly bigger than the number of people who do use them oftenly.
But hey, try to convince a 14 years old (or someone with the mentality of one) that he doesn't needs a shiny keyboard with lots of extra keys, but a good mechanical TKL keyboard for less space usage and more practical use?
Just like anything else:
Plenty of people acquire "powerful" or "extra" tools and capabilities, and barely even use them.
Ex: who drives a Corvette 180mph on public roads and highways? Sure, some do, but that's not exactly "smart."
Ex: How many times have we all seen just one d-bag rolling a huge, jacked-up 4x4, around an urban area, who never hauls or tows anything?
Not everyone who likes this board "is, or thinks like, a 14 year old."
Consider:
I got mine for $127.50, day of release, shipped in 2 days.
Browns, LED, O-rings.
And "extra" macro keys... and the ability to use those 6 extra keys for almost anything i want, both in gaming and non-gaming modes.
And a volume roller knob, which i rather like, so that i don't have to lean in and reach for my speaker knob, and don't have to make micro-perfect mouse-movements, to control my sound volume.
Comes with it's own wrist-rest (ok, not really much of an important factor, but it counts at least a little...)
You tell me:
Where else can i get a back-lit, full-size, media-keys + macro-keys, O-rings, with Browns...
For any less than 127.50?
You can't, that's where.
We can hate on logitech and "gamers" all day, but the fact remains: very usable board with many appealing features, and a design that some still find appealing, even if it's not the epitome of minimalism, and the envy of all keyboard-elitist-hipsters.
I seriously doubt that logitech ever intended or believed they'd be making "the greatest and most widely appealing mechanical keyboard of all time, ever..." when they commissioned the g710+.
I think they know their market, knew what they were doing, and made a good product, which, just like anything else, might not be what everyone wants, and might have a few (or even quite a few) defective units.
Mine seems fine. One of the "g-keys" is ever-so-slightly under-sprayed, and a few tiny little traces of light are barely visible, if you stare at it, from the left side of the board (in other words: you can't even see it while you're using the board).
You don't have to "love it," but... "only stupid little kids like this board" is just going too far.
I think: only "14 year olds" go around calling someone "14 years old," just because they like different things... while completely ignoring any value that is both obvious and perceived, by the person they label as "14 years old."
I can tell you right now, i've played some "complex" MMO's, in which, instead of remapping my entire keyboard, i would have loved to just have some extra buttons.
When not gaming, they can be used for other stuff.
I think it's pretty "14 years old," to deny the usefulness of having a few extra keys, and then call everyone who sees the value in this board "14 years old."
It might not be your favorite thing in the world, and maybe you have some sort of irrational prejudice against "gamers," or "14 year olds," or "people who like things you don't."
But, all things considered, the board "does not suck," and, realistically, is pretty much right in line with the typical expected costs of other "similar" boards... as well as comparable to the cost of buying something with "less features," and then modding it yourself.
Every company makes bad units sometimes. It's just "the nature of the beast," with anything mass-produced... and anything "hand-made," is typically far more expensive than anything else.
I suppose the less "14 years old" thing to do, would be to not post this...
But sometimes, i just can't stand to let people be wrong on the internet... (http://xkcd.com/386/)
Even though, in the end, you can't really make someone not be.
Personally I like that Logitech is taking a risk. I think it looks decent, but still needs some improvement. Although I think its a bit overpriced, but I guess they can do that since they're a reputable brand.
It looks cool, but ugly at the same time...
It looks cool, but ugly at the same time...
Mind you this is the company's first foray into the Cherry MX scheme. The only good thing about their keyboards is the Software that works effortlessly in any application. Quite easy to set up and use.
I'm not saying I'll buy it, but if some spare change should turn up, ......I'll definitely give it a try minus any previous Logitech hatred. Besides I still love their now ancient Wave keyboard, the best layout I've ever used.
Now if they would make an all Blue MX Wave Keyboard, that would be worth buying instantly.
Uh, so am I the only one who hates the Wave?nope im not to into the wave myself.