I use my mouse by holding it with my fingertips, thumb and pinky mostly.
I'd like to know whats the modern replacement for a logitech MX310 ?
Ideally the same shape and weight as that mouse (which seems to be discontinued - no surprise).
I don't want: blinky lights, 30 macro buttons, useless LCD/LED indicators, steel/aluminium body, fans...
It must have a sane HID device profile out-of-the box, standard USB HID protocol, ~7 buttons (omron switches or similar).
What I'd really like to find is a mouse with the track-wheel on the side instead of the middle, and the middle mouse button where it used to belong, between the other two.
Deathadder is hard as hell to use for fingergrip... as far as Razer products go, Salmosa (has a low DPI though), Abyssus, and that new mouse are really good for fingergrip. I'm using an Abyssus myself for finer grip at the moment, no complaints with it.
Deathadder is hard as hell to use for fingergrip... as far as Razer products go, Salmosa (has a low DPI though), Abyssus, and that new mouse are really good for fingergrip. I'm using an Abyssus myself for finer grip at the moment, no complaints with it.
I use palm/fingers on the web and Fingertip When gaming. I have never used the Death adder. Just don't get the Lachesis.
I find the shape of G300 to be kind of weird, like I have small hands but even so I still find it too small for me. Feels more like a laptop mouse >_____>
The smaller the better? I am a Fan of small things, keyboards, mouse. haha.
Deathadder is hard as hell to use for fingergrip... as far as Razer products go, Salmosa (has a low DPI though), Abyssus, and that new mouse are really good for fingergrip. I'm using an Abyssus myself for finer grip at the moment, no complaints with it.
Deathadder is hard as hell to use for fingergrip... as far as Razer products go, Salmosa (has a low DPI though), Abyssus, and that new mouse are really good for fingergrip. I'm using an Abyssus myself for finer grip at the moment, no complaints with it.
DA is a big mouse imo. If your hand is big enough though it's a great mouse.
Very nice informative video. Small tip,(I do the same thing in videos) there is a lot of studding at least in the beginning, try writing some notes. :). (not saying I am one to talk but I do the same thing).Deathadder is hard as hell to use for fingergrip... as far as Razer products go, Salmosa (has a low DPI though), Abyssus, and that new mouse are really good for fingergrip. I'm using an Abyssus myself for finer grip at the moment, no complaints with it.
DA is a big mouse imo. If your hand is big enough though it's a great mouse.
DA is maybe not great for finger-tipping, but it's not bad for claw-gripping:
I saw that you posted on my video...They discontinued the Lachesis? I picked one up a few weeks ago, good thing I managed to get a hold of it before it went out then. It's an interesting mouse.
I had a Lachesis, too, and I actually liked it quite a lot. I returned it, and I was about to buy it again, until it got discontinued and then replaced by the Razer Taipan.
The Lachesis takes... a unique grip, to say the least. Have you tried literally "wrapping" the mouse with your thumb, ring, and pinky fingers? If you look at the bottom of the mouse, you see there are two indented "curves" on the both sides. What I did was wrap the thumb on one side, then the ring and pinky fingers on the other sides, and held it literally like a sword. Like... if you imaged the way Rafael from the Ninja Turtles held onto his sai...
Or, that's how I eventually learned how to hold the Lachesis. From what I gather, it's more of a precision-movement mouse, thus, great for RTS'es. It's not something like the Deathadder, which is great for broad, sweeping motions, and therefore great for FPS's.
Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 3.0Unless you want some decent dpi. Not necessary, but some people prefer more than the IME offers. Also not the best for fingertip, the IME is better suited for palm grip in my experience.
still the best, after all these years!Show Image(http://hardware.gotfrag.com/files/upload/galleryimage_13814_f.jpg)
Deathadder is hard as hell to use for fingergrip... as far as Razer products go, Salmosa (has a low DPI though), Abyssus, and that new mouse are really good for fingergrip. I'm using an Abyssus myself for finer grip at the moment, no complaints with it.
DA is a big mouse imo. If your hand is big enough though it's a great mouse.
DA is maybe not great for finger-tipping, but it's not bad for claw-gripping:
@fuzzyball, what did you think of the taipan? I am concider getting it. What is it compared to the imperitor?
The Lachesis takes time to get used to. I started to use the grooves too. I would normally place my fingers where the side buttons are.
DA is maybe not great for finger-tipping, but it's not bad for claw-gripping:
I like the mouse alot but after using the Mico and G9X it was hard to adjust to the size of the DA again.
The only problem with the Taipan is that the body is a little too long, so the scroll wheel is a little too far ahead from where I would grip the mouse with the rest of my hand. So I would have to scoot the mouse downward to bring the scroll wheel closer to my fingers, and doing that a lot would fatigue my wrist somewhat.
The only problem with the Taipan is that the body is a little too long, so the scroll wheel is a little too far ahead from where I would grip the mouse with the rest of my hand. So I would have to scoot the mouse downward to bring the scroll wheel closer to my fingers, and doing that a lot would fatigue my wrist somewhat.
To my understanding, isn't the Taipan shorter than the Lachesis?(just by a little bit it seems.) Plus it is quite taller. Is that where the problem comes from? I guess I would have to try it myself.
It might be more than the Lachesis than I thought.
@fuzzyball, what did you think of the taipan? I am concider getting it. What is it compared to the imperitor?
The Lachesis takes time to get used to. I started to use the grooves too. I would normally place my fingers where the side buttons are.
Taipan is a great mouse. I'm actually considering replacing the DA with that. Much easier to hold than the Lachesis. The Imperator, actually, was really comfortable, too, but, its sensor was too whacky. And the body felt too cheap (cheaper than the DA, unbelievably).
The only problem with the Taipan is that the body is a little too long, so the scroll wheel is a little too far ahead from where I would grip the mouse with the rest of my hand. So I would have to scoot the mouse downward to bring the scroll wheel closer to my fingers, and doing that a lot would fatigue my wrist somewhat. This was why I returned it, but I miss it enough to want it again despite this issue.
Also, you'll read of problems of the Taipan's sensor being a little whacky on online reviews, but for me, the problem was corrected when I would calibrate the sensor to the mousepad I was using.DA is maybe not great for finger-tipping, but it's not bad for claw-gripping:
I like the mouse alot but after using the Mico and G9X it was hard to adjust to the size of the DA again.
Absolutely. I'm also considering getting the G9x to replace my DA. Something about the G9x's low profile and wide shape, made it really easy to make very quick, precise, "flicking" movements (obviously great for gaming).
But... what grip do you use? The only problem(s) I had with the G9x was that the wide grip was a little tricky to pick up, while the slim grip, which was easier to pick up, hurt my pinky and ring fingers a bit...
My only recommendation here will be the Razer Abyssus:That is one sleek mouse. Might do the same whenever I decide to get an Abyssus for my collection.
Perfect Control Speed: 3.92 m/s
Malfunction Speed: 4.4 m/s
Prediction: None
Liftoff Distance: 3.5 mm
Sensor Position: Middle
Body: Plastic
Weight: 67 grams
Feet: Teflon
Buttons: 3
No drivers needed = no additional layer of laggy driver software in the OS better response times (i'm talking to you here synapse 2.0 etc...) thanks to the dip switches.
If you don't like the LED you can easily unplug it from the pcb, or pull it out of the mouse to save weight.
Sick Sensor.
I changed the switches in the my Abyssus to Omron D2F-01F:
http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/D2F-01F/SW502-ND/83266
To be honest the default switches will be fine for most, but tactile feel is personal preference really.
I was surprised with the speed of shipping from Digikey (i got the switches shipped from US to Canada the day after ordering).
D2F-01F quality is top notch and i have enough to last me a while (probably wont change from the Abyssus any time soon tbh).
I have painted mine gloss red (top shell) to help with grip.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ppvX7.jpg)
Hope this helps.
To the OP, have you considered the Taipan? I mentioned it a couple of times here in the thread, but I'm not sure if you caught it or not.
But, yes, there are thumb buttons on either side, so it's available for ambidextrous use. I actually got one a few days ago, and I'm liking it a lot. Its shape gives me a lot of control.
Also, the problems people mention with its "laggy" cursor are fixed when you calibrate the sensor with the mousepad you are using.
The Taipan should have on-board memory, at least for that price, and would only require to be set up in Synapse once. While that is one time too many and an old fasioned driver would be far better, you only need an active connection while setting it up the first time. After that it's plug-and-play.To the OP, have you considered the Taipan? I mentioned it a couple of times here in the thread, but I'm not sure if you caught it or not.
But, yes, there are thumb buttons on either side, so it's available for ambidextrous use. I actually got one a few days ago, and I'm liking it a lot. Its shape gives me a lot of control.
Also, the problems people mention with its "laggy" cursor are fixed when you calibrate the sensor with the mousepad you are using.
Yeah, need a constantly active Internet connection for using a F8cing mouse, no thanks.
Razor = Too much sizzle, not enough steak.
However the I am considering a CM Recon (if I can get my fingers on one...)
Razor = Too much sizzle, not enough steak.
However the I am considering a CM Recon (if I can get my fingers on one...)
I tried Abyssus and I do think it's probably one of the better gaming fingertip grip mouse. However I do have a few issues with it:
1. I wish the sides would curve in a little bit for better ergonomics, I find even the generic Logitech / Microsoft mouse feels more ergonomic to use and less boxy.
2. The gap between the body and click button sometimes "bite" my ring fingers when clicking down.
3. The lift off distance is a bit high for me but I guess that can be fixed by the tape trick?
4. I wish they have at least 1 thumb button on each side. Comes handy when browsing the web and it's not too hard to add 1 extra button on each side. Razer's Starcraft mouse proves that there is room to add thumb button in small mouse.
So hopefully the next version Abyssus can address that.
I use my mouse by holding it with my fingertips, thumb and pinky mostly.
I'd like to know whats the modern replacement for a logitech MX310 ?
Ideally the same shape and weight as that mouse (which seems to be discontinued - no surprise).
I don't want: blinky lights, 30 macro buttons, useless LCD/LED indicators, steel/aluminium body, fans...
It must have a sane HID device profile out-of-the box, standard USB HID protocol, ~7 buttons (omron switches or similar).
What I'd really like to find is a mouse with the track-wheel on the side instead of the middle, and the middle mouse button where it used to belong, between the other two.
Zowie mico
Razer Abyssus
Logitech G9X
The Taipan should have on-board memory, at least for that price, and would only require to be set up in Synapse once. While that is one time too many and an old fasioned driver would be far better, you only need an active connection while setting it up the first time. After that it's plug-and-play.
Yeah, I read that recently. I just assumed it had at the time since at that price it damn well should.
The Taipan should have on-board memory, at least for that price, and would only require to be set up in Synapse once. While that is one time too many and an old fasioned driver would be far better, you only need an active connection while setting it up the first time. After that it's plug-and-play.
Sad but it doesn't have onboard memory as far as I know...
Well, I've ruled out the Tt esports Saphira since the DPI settings are placed under the mouse.I believe the Xornet also has physical dpi switches on the mouse, the Abyssus has that as well. Even if the dpi can be adjusted in software most optical sensors will only have a few steps. If you want to fine-tune your dpi you might want to get a laser sensor.
The Spawn is discontinued, but I can still find it on amazon. I'm also considering the Xornet.
Well, I've ruled out the Tt esports Saphira since the DPI settings are placed under the mouse.I believe the Xornet also has physical dpi switches on the mouse, the Abyssus has that as well. Even if the dpi can be adjusted in software most optical sensors will only have a few steps. If you want to fine-tune your dpi you might want to get a laser sensor.
The Spawn is discontinued, but I can still find it on amazon. I'm also considering the Xornet.