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Title: Cherry MX brown keyboards?
Post by: iixwh3l4nxii on Sun, 14 October 2012, 08:28:46
Hello, I'm new here and i'm a little intimidated by the amount of experts on Mechanical keyboards and other keyboards.


But I'm sick of membrane, I'm currently using a cheap Trust GXT 18 keyboard and it's horrible to type on so I want to upgrade to mechanical.


I've never used on before, the closest I have got to it is those old springy feeling keyboards from like the early 90's.


Anyway, from what research you can do on a keyswitch, I've decided that Browns would be best, I don't think I would like typing without some sort of feedback that the clears, browns and blues gives, but I also have to keep it fairly quiet for others I live with, so browns seem like the way to go.


I live in the UK so a lot of keyboards are expensive or hard to find, I'll settle for a US layout though, it's not too different from UK.


So anyway lol, sorry for going on.


Anyone know any good MX brown keyboards for a low price, I was thinking about getting the Blackwidow stealth and saving for a bit, but I can only find it on razers US website and it's stupidly expensive, not to mention I hate razer products.

The best thing I seem to have found so far is this new "HBE 87", it's a chinese keyboard with tenkeyless, no media buttons, printed keys, no wrist rest BUT MX browns and a very low price point, I've also heard it's well built.

Now for me, a selling point is a wrist rest(although you can buy aftermarket ones), laser etched keys and MX browns, but a huge bonus would be full layout and backlighting with a few media keys( why isn't the K90 brown switches? :'( )

sorry, I type on and on (painfully), so yeah, know any half-decent MX brown keyboards? (I'd say £100 is my limit, which is around $156, but stuff is expensive here, so call it $170 limit), the cheaper the better.
Title: Re: Cherry MX brown keyboards?
Post by: ih8 on Sun, 14 October 2012, 10:24:12
don't waste your money on razer, I also wouldn't place backlighting as a huge weighing factor

http://www.keyboardco.com/
Title: Re: Cherry MX brown keyboards?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 14 October 2012, 10:32:24
It's pushing your budget, but should have everything you want except built in wrist rest, Ducky Shine 2 (http://www.vendio.com/stores/E-sports-Gaming-equipments/category/cateogry1-name/catId=3993006). If you don't mind forgoing the full size for tenkeyless, have a look at the Keycool 87 backlight (http://www.vendio.com/stores/E-sports-Gaming-equipments/category/cateogry1-name/catId=4190075) which is quite a bit cheaper.
Title: Re: Cherry MX brown keyboards?
Post by: pexon on Sun, 14 October 2012, 10:33:49
I was looking at the Keycool boad on ebay... what are they built like?
Title: Re: Cherry MX brown keyboards?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 14 October 2012, 10:40:46
Keycool are good quality, same oem as Leopold.
Title: Re: Cherry MX brown keyboards?
Post by: pexon on Sun, 14 October 2012, 10:45:11
Nice I am looking for a cheap board with blues to try some ghetto greens
Title: Re: Cherry MX brown keyboards?
Post by: iixwh3l4nxii on Sun, 14 October 2012, 10:58:40
I was just looking at the CM Storm trigger that I've just come across, it's only £90 and has everything I want and it looks cool.

Any ideas on how it's built, how long it will last?

I don't take pleasure in paying so much for something that lasts a month =/
Title: Re: Cherry MX brown keyboards?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 14 October 2012, 11:12:15
Trigger is fine, it's made by costar.
Title: Re: Cherry MX brown keyboards?
Post by: nullstring on Sun, 14 October 2012, 11:29:28
Trigger is fine, it's made by costar.

Is it really? Both trigger and QFR are made by costar?
Title: Re: Cherry MX brown keyboards?
Post by: iixwh3l4nxii on Sun, 14 October 2012, 11:38:09
I F'ing hate this country, we have such limited computer stuff, I can only find the Trigger with black keyswitches -_-

I can get the Pro with brown(possibly), but I'd rather spend the extra ££ and get everything I want, It sucks so hard that I can't get brown switches, in america you can buy it for like $80-100, that means it should be like £40-60 here, but instead it's £100 and it's with limit switches, all you US guys are super lucky.
Title: Re: Cherry MX brown keyboards?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 14 October 2012, 12:08:41
Don't buy the CM pro, that one is iOne oem like Razer, and they are not so good.
Yeah you don't have a lot of options to buy in UK. There is just some limited choices from keyboardco, scan, aria, and ccl.
I think a lot of it is due to most place will only stock UK layout keyboard, and barely anyone makes them.
Title: Re: Cherry MX brown keyboards?
Post by: BucklingSpring on Sun, 14 October 2012, 12:25:08
Since you don't mind the US layout. For ultimate quiet mechanical board, you may also consider the new Matias Quiet Pro.
http://www.matias.ca/quietpro/ (http://www.matias.ca/quietpro/)

But I don't know if they have distribution overseas
Title: Re: Cherry MX brown keyboards?
Post by: iixwh3l4nxii on Sun, 14 October 2012, 13:44:31
that's a little expensive for a featureless keyboard, + never heard of their unique keyswitches and idk how they work, so idk.

the Trigger is $90 on newegg, that translates to £56!!!!!

£56 for the keyboard I really f'ing want but can't have even for £100

ARGH, I want to find the UK sales manager for Coolermaster who decided blacks was the best to be sold in the UK and kidnap him.

Any similar boards for the price? (£80-100)
Title: Re: Cherry MX brown keyboards?
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sun, 14 October 2012, 14:08:59
OP, if price is a huge factor, get a Rosewill RK9000BR and have someone in the US proxy it to you. They're essentially rebranded Filcos for half the cost. They're around $70-$100, depending on sale.
Title: Re: Cherry MX brown keyboards?
Post by: stingrae on Sun, 14 October 2012, 14:10:27
I can only recommend http://www.scan.co.uk/products/cooler-master-cm-storm-quickfire-rapid-mechanical-cherry-brown-mx-gaming-keyboard but it's overdue for stock which isn't a good sign...

Both keycool and HPE are 'ok' but honestly don't go hunting needless features, that's exactly why I bought a filco since it is simple, minimalistic and I can choose what I want it to do or not do via software.
Title: Re: Cherry MX brown keyboards?
Post by: iixwh3l4nxii on Sun, 14 October 2012, 15:12:19
Filco is good, but again, very expensive for a keyboard with no features

it's built just as good as a £60 keyboard, you're paying for the name with no media keys and no backlighting and NO wristwrest

I have my keyboard on my lap and my desk just holds my monitor, my bed next to me is my giant mouse mat so a built-in wrist rest is a big selling point for me.

I've found US sellers going for like £105-120 for the CM trigger, but I get £100 a month, I like at least £10 of that to go on food, £15 if possible for college, everything else is paid for, bus pas etc.

so unless I sell all my ****, I can't afford one and then I'll still have no money for food at college.

Backlighting isn't a selling point as such, but my sessions on the computer are mostly at night, but I can type without looking anyway, I only look when I've made an error, the reason I like backlit is because it means the keycaps are never going to fade, this means it can last me a long time.

i'm going to find a Quickfire Pro for like £90 with mx browns... it's like £70 with blacks which annoys me deeply
Title: Re: Cherry MX brown keyboards?
Post by: alaricljs on Sun, 14 October 2012, 16:23:55
the Trigger is $90 on newegg, that translates to £56!!!!!

£56 for the keyboard I really f'ing want but can't have even for £100

And you have crap timing unfortunately... It was on sale for $70 - $10MIR yesterday... you could have had it freight forwarded for your price.
Title: Re: Cherry MX brown keyboards?
Post by: cosmonauti on Sun, 14 October 2012, 17:42:14
Don't buy the CM pro, that one is iOne oem like Razer, and they are not so good.

I have to disagree with you. I have a CM Pro with Reds and it feels extremely solid. Much more solid than my BWU.

I do, however, plan on getting rid of it because the partial backlighting just doesn't do it for me.
Title: Re: Cherry MX brown keyboards?
Post by: BucklingSpring on Sun, 14 October 2012, 17:48:23
that's a little expensive for a featureless keyboard, + never heard of their unique keyswitches and idk how they work, so idk.
It features Quietness and a USB hub :-)

As far as the unique keyswitches... They are improved ALPS. Think of ALPS, a well known technology then make them more durable.
Matias unofficially rated them for over 40M cycles.
Title: Re: Cherry MX brown keyboards?
Post by: furosuto81 on Sun, 14 October 2012, 18:02:00
In case you missed it, I've posted a little comparison of the Ducky Shine vs Keycool 87 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36457.0). So far, the only thing I've found to detract from the Keycool is the keycaps. Whatever paint they used on them shows fingerprints/oil much more than the Ducky. Which also leads me to think the paint will wear faster. The rest of the build quality seems just fine.

I'd also second BucklingSpring's Matias Quiet Pro recommendation. Fantastic keyboard. The ALPS-based Quite Switch feels way better (to me) than MX Brown switches.
Title: Re: Cherry MX brown keyboards?
Post by: Batmann on Sun, 14 October 2012, 18:03:11
Hi,
I have a noppo choc mini with browns to sell,
plate mounted, NKRO over USB, layout is fine imo
I'm selling it 60 euros (shipping to UK will be around 13 euros, I live in France)
PM me if you are interested
Title: Re: Cherry MX brown keyboards?
Post by: wetto on Mon, 15 October 2012, 11:18:01
Don't buy the CM pro, that one is iOne oem like Razer, and they are not so good.

I have to disagree with you. I have a CM Pro with Reds and it feels extremely solid. Much more solid than my BWU.

I do, however, plan on getting rid of it because the partial backlighting just doesn't do it for me.

Well, if you bought it AFTER June, it should really be Costar-made and it's a great keyboard. All you should care about is whether or not it says "Made in Taiwan" (Costar) or "Made in China" (iOne).



But then again, the CM Trigger is an awesome option.
Title: Re: Cherry MX brown keyboards?
Post by: swagpiratex on Mon, 15 October 2012, 13:21:31
I think the people that bag on the pro haven't really given it a fair chance. I tried one at Fry's when I was first learning about keyboards and it felt really solid.