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Title: Realforce EK vs 87u
Post by: ValerieV on Mon, 22 October 2012, 17:27:59

What is the difference because according to the description on Elite keyboards, they both are universally 45g? Is it just that one is dark gray and one isn't? Also, if the keyboard uses less pressure, would it be louder to type on? I want the Realforce that is the loudest!  :D

Title: Re: Realforce EK vs 87u
Post by: Daniel Beardsmore on Mon, 22 October 2012, 18:34:48

You mean the difference between SE1900 'Realforce 87U Tenkeyless 45g' and SE19E0 'Realforce 87U All-45g "EK Edition"'?

I think it's just that the latter has nice red LEDs, and the former comes with lavender WASD keys.

Basically it's ten bucks less for red LEDs! In the Filco world you have to have stupid MX black switches to get the red LEDs :(

45 g is the same as the centre switches on a variable weight Topre. They're definitely soft and quiet – if you want a loud keyboard, don't get Topre, go for a vintage Alps board :) Tactile Alps switches make a wonderful noise, much nicer than Cherry MX tactile switches.

Title: Re: Realforce EK vs 87u
Post by: ValerieV on Mon, 22 October 2012, 18:39:25

Thanks for the response. I have the HHKB and it seems a little louder than the Realforce that i had.

Title: Re: Realforce EK vs 87u
Post by: thegunner100 on Mon, 22 October 2012, 18:43:50

Quote from: ValerieV on Mon, 22 October 2012, 18:39:25

Thanks for the response. I have the HHKB and it seems a little louder than the Realforce that i had.

Realforces are plate-mounted, the HHKB is not.

Title: Re: Realforce EK vs 87u
Post by: metalliqaz on Mon, 22 October 2012, 19:02:10

I asked that same question and the EK guy responded that the EK had a tweaked LED and fixed legends (as well as some price relief)

Title: Re: Realforce EK vs 87u
Post by: ValerieV on Mon, 22 October 2012, 19:59:26

Ok really dumb question: What do they mean when they say fixed legends? thanks.

Title: Re: Realforce EK vs 87u
Post by: metalliqaz on Mon, 22 October 2012, 20:08:32

Look here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35484.msg675132#msg675132)

On the Leopold 87U, some of the legends seem stretched.  He made them look better.

Title: Re: Realforce EK vs 87u
Post by: ValerieV on Mon, 22 October 2012, 21:48:25

Thanks!

Title: Re: Realforce EK vs 87u
Post by: pli on Tue, 23 October 2012, 05:01:35

I was researching this a few weeks ago too and decided on the EK edition mostly because http://deskthority.net/wiki/Realforce#Realforce_Model_Reference (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Realforce#Realforce_Model_Reference) listed it as the most recent Topre board.

I figured it would be my best bet of getting the newest revisions of their components since it can't be an unit from an old production run that has been sitting in a warehouse somewhere. Of course, the red leds are also nice, while not a deciding factor, since blue ones kill the eyes with all that scattering.

I've had some trouble with the board though and another user reported similar findings on certain keys, so I don't know if the EK edition might be a smaller batch with a higher chance of production problems, or if it's just purely bad luck. It crossed my mind that getting the standard SE1900 might have been safer after all. You can check my post history if you are interested.

EDIT: linked to wrong article, sorry.

Title: Re: Realforce EK vs 87u
Post by: ValerieV on Tue, 23 October 2012, 20:32:14

Thanks for the information. I think i am going to hold off on getting it. My HHKB is giving me my Topre fix for now.