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Title: OMG!! My model M SSK....
Post by: jspark on Wed, 07 November 2012, 14:00:56
I have ordered 1987 IBM Model M SSK from eBay. I received it just now.
Unfortunately, it is damaged while it was being delivered.

I'm really sad because it is broken and one of rare keyboards is gone...
Title: Re: OMG!! My model M SSK....
Post by: 0100010 on Wed, 07 November 2012, 14:05:54
Broken how?
Title: Re: OMG!! My model M SSK....
Post by: jspark on Wed, 07 November 2012, 14:11:30
I'm sure the box fell down from some height because its right side is completely broken.
So, you can see inside of it. and many cracks on it.
Title: Re: OMG!! My model M SSK....
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 07 November 2012, 14:21:09
Shame on whatever company shipped it...

RIP SSK...
Title: Re: OMG!! My model M SSK....
Post by: Ascaii on Wed, 07 November 2012, 14:57:18
Is only the top shell broken, or also the bottom? FYI unicomp might still have some extra shells they could sell you. Also, I sold T!ng from deskthority an SSK with an extra top shell, perhaps he would sell it to you.
Title: Re: OMG!! My model M SSK....
Post by: jspark on Wed, 07 November 2012, 15:09:57
also the bottom... the crack crosses all the way from top to bottom...
I'm going to ask the seller for exchange.
Title: Re: OMG!! My model M SSK....
Post by: hoggy on Wed, 07 November 2012, 15:41:41
Can you type on it?

Chances are the seller will just throw it away...
Title: Re: OMG!! My model M SSK....
Post by: Findecanor on Wed, 07 November 2012, 16:18:25
A cracked keyboard shell is no functional component, and it could possibly be repaired (although with a permanent scar). How about the barrel plate, membrane  and the controller?
Title: Re: OMG!! My model M SSK....
Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 07 November 2012, 16:23:03
If the internals are salvageable, you might have a platform for an awesome project!
Title: Re: OMG!! My model M SSK....
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 07 November 2012, 16:24:16
We can rebuild him! We have the technology...
Title: Re: OMG!! My model M SSK....
Post by: jspark on Wed, 07 November 2012, 16:43:01
I'm sure everything other than the shall is fine. I have typed on it. It worked fine, but the shall is completely broken.
It is very ugly now. If the seller is going to exchange this with other one, I will gratefully return this.
I will see how this is going to be.
Title: Re: OMG!! My model M SSK....
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 07 November 2012, 16:43:16
Metaphor: If you buy a new broom, and over time the bristles wear down so you replace the head.  Then the handle breaks so you replace the handle.

Is it still the same broom?
Title: Re: OMG!! My model M SSK....
Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 07 November 2012, 17:05:26
The answer to that is easy: yes and no.

I have build several "Frankenstein" keyboards which were surely improvements upon the parts from which they were made.
Title: Re: OMG!! My model M SSK....
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 07 November 2012, 17:09:40
It also depends on how much love you put in to it.

Hopefully jspark's SSK can be revived :)
Title: Re: OMG!! My model M SSK....
Post by: The_Beast on Wed, 07 November 2012, 17:11:45
If you can't fix it yourself, I'm sure you can sell it to someone who can fix it.



Just don't throw it out, please ^___^
Title: Re: OMG!! My model M SSK....
Post by: 0100010 on Wed, 07 November 2012, 19:15:27
If you can't fix it yourself, I'm sure you can sell it to someone who can fix it.



Just don't throw it out, please ^___^

This.  It can be saved or rebuilt.  Maybe a good donor for mkawa's SSK revival project.
Title: Re: OMG!! My model M SSK....
Post by: Krogenar on Wed, 07 November 2012, 20:00:26
I'm sure everything other than the shall is fine. I have typed on it. It worked fine, but the shall is completely broken.
It is very ugly now. If the seller is going to exchange this with other one, I will gratefully return this.
I will see how this is going to be.

Post some pictures.
Title: Re: OMG!! My model M SSK....
Post by: Lanx on Wed, 07 November 2012, 22:06:15
pics?
Title: Re: OMG!! My model M SSK....
Post by: mkawa on Wed, 07 November 2012, 22:23:06
the shells are unfortunately the rarest thing at the moment. everything else in the keyboard assembly is replaceable. sorry bud :(
Title: Re: OMG!! My model M SSK....
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 07 November 2012, 22:28:17
^ But that's no excuse to throw anything out!!
Title: Re: OMG!! My model M SSK....
Post by: jkercado on Thu, 08 November 2012, 09:30:54
Epoxy, sand, and paint. I would do it.
Title: Re: OMG!! My model M SSK....
Post by: kwang2009 on Thu, 08 November 2012, 09:41:25
Better luck on your next find.
Title: Re: OMG!! My model M SSK....
Post by: mkawa on Thu, 08 November 2012, 21:26:00
Epoxy, sand, and paint. I would do it.
this is definitely an option. the tolerances built into the SSK casing are ... large ... to say the least.
Title: Re: OMG!! My model M SSK....
Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 08 November 2012, 21:48:19
Ooh, I'd be interested to see how small of a case you can get a SSK into.
Title: Re: OMG!! My model M SSK....
Post by: laffindude on Thu, 08 November 2012, 22:51:32
So much for Ms being indestructible.
Title: Re: OMG!! My model M SSK....
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 08 November 2012, 22:58:34
So much for Ms being indestructible.

See the Second Law of Thermodynamics. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_law_of_thermodynamics)
Title: Re: OMG!! My model M SSK....
Post by: jspark on Fri, 09 November 2012, 09:32:16
I have contacted the seller, and he said he is going to send another one. For the damaged keyboard, he has Fedex insurance. Fedex will come to pick it up.
I don't know what Fedex will do with this keyboard. They might throw it away or return to the shipper.
I hope they do not throw it away.

Even though its shell is broken, it is still working though...
Title: Re: OMG!! My model M SSK....
Post by: jkercado on Fri, 09 November 2012, 09:51:31
So much for Ms being indestructible.

See the Second Law of Thermodynamics. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_law_of_thermodynamics)

Hahahaha!
Title: Re: OMG!! My model M SSK....
Post by: Krogenar on Fri, 09 November 2012, 10:57:55
Original seller probably getting broken one back, to be cannibalized for parts -- or maybe repair it?
Title: Re: OMG!! My model M SSK....
Post by: 0100010 on Fri, 09 November 2012, 11:06:56
Who is the seller?  (Maybe one of us can contact them to get the broken one for cheap.)
Title: Re: OMG!! My model M SSK....
Post by: dorkvader on Fri, 09 November 2012, 21:42:48
Metaphor: If you buy a new broom, and over time the bristles wear down so you replace the head.  Then the handle breaks so you replace the handle.

Is it still the same broom?
Classic philosophical issue: Ship of thesius. So if thesius replaces his entire ship one piece at a time, is it still the same? (I argue yes because of continuity of states). What if evil thesius makes a ship out of the parts that real thesius discards? Who has the real ship now?

I'm not as discerning, but I'd just live with it. I'm only worried about metal keyboards looking pretty. The rest are just good to type on.
Title: Re: OMG!! My model M SSK....
Post by: DesktopJinx on Sat, 10 November 2012, 11:00:20
Might FedEx let you keep the broken thing?

Naked but working SSK guts kind of demand a bespoke case project. Billet aluminum, perhaps.
Title: Re: OMG!! My model M SSK....
Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 11 November 2012, 18:53:01
I agree that something truly awesome could and should be done with it.
Title: Re: OMG!! My model M SSK....
Post by: jspark on Mon, 12 November 2012, 12:04:36
I have shipped the broken keyboard to Fedex today.
I don't think Fedex will ship it back to me. I think they will either keep it or ship it back to the seller.
Title: Re: OMG!! My model M SSK....
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 12 November 2012, 13:14:39
Still waiting for pictures ...
Title: Re: OMG!! My model M SSK....
Post by: Lanx on Mon, 12 November 2012, 13:32:34
Still waiting for pictures ...
If there are no pics, it never happened!
Title: Re: OMG!! My model M SSK....
Post by: jspark on Mon, 12 November 2012, 21:23:19
Sorry, rowdy... I have deleted the pictures. Anyway, I bought the keyboard from eBay. So, if anyone is interested in the broken one, contact the seller at eBay.
There in only one who sells Model M SSK.