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geekhack Community => Off Topic => Topic started by: tp4tissue on Wed, 07 November 2012, 14:05:09
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:)) :))
That, and why they all have this "skirt" thing..
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Just the former, and not the latter. I'm just surprised that they're still popular.
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not stupid. just cool.
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not stupid. just cool.
But the whole mobile suit thing has no practical use. why make extremely complicated moving parts when a bomb would do the same thing.
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absolutely. i spent like 150-200 on gundam models earlier this year cause they are cool but now they sit in their boxes in my closet because they're ridiculously stupid.
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zaku > gundam
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MLP:FiM > zaku > gundam
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VOLTRON!!!
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But the whole mobile suit thing has no practical use. why make extremely complicated moving parts when a bomb would do the same thing.
And here we have a fine example of American vs. Japanese engineering. :))
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What's not to love about fighting robots? Also, gundam models are fun as **** to build. I have the Dynames from 00 sitting right behind me, I should put that together.
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But the whole mobile suit thing has no practical use. why make extremely complicated moving parts when a bomb would do the same thing.
And here we have a fine example of American vs. Japanese engineering. :))
Sigh.... gettin political eh?
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Robotech FTW
(http://www.kent.net/robotech/mecha/rdf/vf-1j-battloid.gif)
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They take Gundam very seriously in Japan...
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But the whole mobile suit thing has no practical use. why make extremely complicated moving parts when a bomb would do the same thing.
And here we have a fine example of American vs. Japanese engineering. :))
Sigh.... gettin political eh?
It's just a joke.
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i still have a few master grades on display in my old room (you know, the rooms at moms house that is kept in pristine 18year old way). some survived my then 10year old nephews playing with them, now they have just stashed their master grade gundams away (they turn 21ish).
Gundams are cool, but after a while you grow out of them i guess, maybe if they didn't have super rip off prices... maybe.
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Ok as you might be able to tell after this post, I'm relatively into Gundam.
The reason they don't use bombs is because in (at least the original timeline, most of the recent Gundams have much much less justification) Gundam they have such effective EM Jamming and Interference that Radar guidance is useless beyond a few meters, IR is fuzzy as hell and impossible to accurately target and even Visible Light gets a slight foggy effect, also any kind of useful autonomous computer in a missile in a combat zone would need enough shielding that it would be as big as the GN Sword IIIs that the 00 Raiser Gundam is holding in his hands, minimum. All combat for at least the early days in the Gundam series takes place in Visual range only because of this.
The reason to then use mobile suits is then:
1. They were designed primarily for space, the exact shape doesn't matter there and they have the side effect of still being usable on Earth.
2. The mobile suits aren't controlled exactly, most of the movements are preprogrammed, a humanoid shape makes it pretty easy to just motion capture somewhere for the movements.
3. The mobile suits run on mini-fusion reactors, but they are still too big when they were first made to fit into a fighter jet sized spaceship.
4. And then the reason for using mobile suits over basically space tanks is umm, there isn't a reason they use both and the space tank type stuff (Mobile Armours) is almost always shown as being better (But of course only used by the enemy so the good guys have to struggle against the superior odds).
5. The moving limbs help in space for adjusting momentum.
Also the skirt thing is because the gundam's design has small similarities with Samurai Armour, which does have a skirt-like piece of armour.
Personally I think the original Gunadm series had a lot more solid sci fi foundations and ideas that make more sense than a lot of other sci fi tv series (Of course a lot of it was made up on the spot and occasionally retconned in the original series, but they've stuck with it consistently, all the way to Gundam Unicorn that's still releasing now). There's tons of examples of this if someone wants me to get into it.
TL;DR: There's a bunch of in-universe explanations in Gundam that make it make a lot more sense that if you just assumed it was the world as it is but in the future.
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zaku > gundam
part of the Gundam universe...
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Ever since 08th MS team I've been pro Zaku all the way haha
**** Shiro Amada and the Earth Federation!
Go Principality of Zeon!!!!!!!
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not stupid. just cool.
But the whole mobile suit thing has no practical use. why make extremely complicated moving parts when a bomb would do the same thing.
a gundam was made whose sole purpose was to deliver a bomb
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Go Principality of Zeon!!!!!!!
Sieg Zeon! (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-TBjyxYCJuRw/UJDMR5hd-kI/AAAAAAADwj8/ZtPmjA5La9Y/s1600/1gg.jpg)
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Oh man, seeing this thread makes me want to start building the model kits again. I love building stuff, especially Gundams. The series is just a childish interest for me, really. I don't care much for the story, I just want to see awesome giant robot fighting action and then build the ones that I think are cool.
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Anyone who just likes looking at cool Gundams, check out this site:
http://zefai.info/cg_gallery
Guy not only does full 3D models of gundams, he even custom modifies some to be completely over the top (and cool :p)
Like this awesome gundam (http://zefai.sakura.ne.jp/wp/images/2010/11/QANT_05.jpg)
I count 20 swords on that...
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http://dalong.net/ is another good site if you want to look for model review before buying them, obviously I don't know Korean so I just look at pictures :P
But yeah gundam model is another expensive I pick up before I jump into this slightly more expensive keyboard hobby >_____>
I only buy MG kits so those usually sits between $90-120. I stopped buying them because there hasn't been any really good gundam shows in a while also they collected too much dust sitting on top of my desk shelf. So now they're back in the box.
Currently own MG Zeta ver 2.0, MG Gundam MK-II ver 2.0, MG Freedom Gundam, and MG Strike Noir (haven't build it yet).
As for keyboards at least I only have a Das Keyboard and a Filco so far. But I've recently dropped $200 on keycaps so I can see in the long run this will be worse than gundam models.
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Im sure they are working around the clock xD
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Ok as you might be able to tell after this post, I'm relatively into Gundam.
The reason they don't use bombs is because in (at least the original timeline, most of the recent Gundams have much much less justification) Gundam they have such effective EM Jamming and Interference that Radar guidance is useless beyond a few meters, IR is fuzzy as hell and impossible to accurately target and even Visible Light gets a slight foggy effect, also any kind of useful autonomous computer in a missile in a combat zone would need enough shielding that it would be as big as the GN Sword IIIs that the 00 Raiser Gundam is holding in his hands, minimum. All combat for at least the early days in the Gundam series takes place in Visual range only because of this.
The reason to then use mobile suits is then:
1. They were designed primarily for space, the exact shape doesn't matter there and they have the side effect of still being usable on Earth.
2. The mobile suits aren't controlled exactly, most of the movements are preprogrammed, a humanoid shape makes it pretty easy to just motion capture somewhere for the movements.
3. The mobile suits run on mini-fusion reactors, but they are still too big when they were first made to fit into a fighter jet sized spaceship.
4. And then the reason for using mobile suits over basically space tanks is umm, there isn't a reason they use both and the space tank type stuff (Mobile Armours) is almost always shown as being better (But of course only used by the enemy so the good guys have to struggle against the superior odds).
5. The moving limbs help in space for adjusting momentum.
Also the skirt thing is because the gundam's design has small similarities with Samurai Armour, which does have a skirt-like piece of armour.
Personally I think the original Gunadm series had a lot more solid sci fi foundations and ideas that make more sense than a lot of other sci fi tv series (Of course a lot of it was made up on the spot and occasionally retconned in the original series, but they've stuck with it consistently, all the way to Gundam Unicorn that's still releasing now). There's tons of examples of this if someone wants me to get into it.
TL;DR: There's a bunch of in-universe explanations in Gundam that make it make a lot more sense that if you just assumed it was the world as it is but in the future.
You're a little off to think shape doesn't matter. At the speeds some gundams are supposedly capable of, or during launch from carriers, Shape still matters even in space.
Ontop of that WE also have the issue of complex manufactuering. If shape TRUELY doesn't matter, than certainly we wouldn't bother making such a complex humanoid shape to begin with. We would probably make a big rectangle with arms at most.
The mini fusion reactors is not an issue in terms of "size" because there is no conservation of mass /energy in the gundam universe.
The moving limbs helps adjust momentum is "extra" dumb, because that would have significantly less impact on the momentum of the object compared to bursts from their surrounding boosters nozzles which are distributed all over. And in case they made a rectangle, would only be easier to implement.
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This is like from the time of the beenie babies!
I used to follow the anime.
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I just think that they're cool. ;D They bring back good memories.
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Gundam ;D
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Gundams like these?
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I'm mostly bothered by the pink smoke. Haha.
Other than that, I've actually never watched Gundam.
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I'm mostly bothered by the pink smoke. Haha.
Other than that, I've actually never watched Gundam.
Yea, it's not for everyone... You really need to like robots.. people who like gundams usually also like legos, do you like legos?
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Anyone watch Venture Brothers?