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geekhack Community => Input Devices => Topic started by: vaLk on Fri, 09 November 2012, 22:18:04
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I have a Logitech G500, but the wonky polling issues in OS X make it basically unusable (see: http://paulstamatiou.com/logitech-g500-mouse-mac-bug, and specifically: ). I think I read somewhere that they fixed most of these issues in Mountain Lion, but (through my trials) the mouse still doesn't perform perfectly. If it matters, I'm using a 2011 MacBook Air running Mountain Lion.
I wouldn't mind just getting a Magic Mouse or Magic Trackpad, but I use a lot of Photoshop/other design software, and I absolutely loathe using either of those two peripherals for those applications (on the other hand, for basic web browsing and whatnot, I actually really like them, which is queer because before the Magic Mouse, I absolutely abhorred Apple peripherals).
So, I don't need nothin fancy for like gaming or anything...it's just that I love Logitech mice, and everything I've read says that they have about zero support for OS X :< I'm completely lost without Logitech mice, because they're the only brand I've used for years now :\
Are there any clear winners? Isn't the super-basic Microsoft mouse (http://amzn.to/TiDJZD) a crowd-favorite around here (I may be getting that confused with another place, so apologies in advance if I like...offend anyone with that remark)?
Thanks dudes.
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Logitech does indeed make a version of SetPoint for OSX. I've used my G400, G500, and Performance MX on OSX without a hitch for quite a while now.
As far as recommendations go, I'd say grab the G400. Works out of the box with no drivers, and has one of the best sensors ever made. Fairly inexpensive, too
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I highly recommend the razer abyssus. you can disable the LED with software, or if you dont have access to a windows machine you can just take it apart and disconnect the LED wires (they use a connector rather than directly soldered).
been using an abyssus on multiple macs for 3 years now with no problems.
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For me a basic Microsoft mouse (exactly like the one in the first picture here: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34989.0 ) works just fine ( under 10.6.8 ).
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The Razer DeathAdder (and probably all Razer mice) allow you to set the polling rate via their software on OS X, and even after trying numerous other mice both from Razer and other manufacturers, the DeathAdder is the one I always end up using again. Nothing else seems to track as well as it does above 450 CPI (at 400/450CPI, I have yet to find a modern mouse that doesn't fail with fast motion) and it's the only mouse I can use all day without developing some sort of pain in my hand/wrist.
The Abyssus is a nice mouse, but it suffers from jitter on a lot of surfaces, the hardware switches only allow 450/1800/3500 CPI (should have been 450/900/1800) and 125/1000Hz polling (should have been 125/500)
I also found it extremely difficult to do without the extra side buttons on the mouse. The back/forward buttons are used by so many applications nowadays, I really found that certain tasks were noticeably slower without them, and that I was putting more strain on my index finger from clicking the left mouse button that much more often throughout the day.
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i dont think the dpi/etc issues are a big deal if you're not a gamer. i use photoshop all the time and have no problems with sensitivity or anything. good point on the jitter - best to use a mousepad with the abyssus.
the back/forward buttons are definitely an issue of personal preference -- if you are used to them, losing them is going to take some time to readjust. personally i have never had any reason to get a mouse with more than 3 buttons including the scroll wheel so i never became accustomed to having back/forward on the mouse (there are always keyboard shortcuts for anything my mouse can try to do outside of clicking on things, and i like topre more than omron :P).
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I actually haven't heard of this bug before. I used to use a Saitek RAT 7 and never noticed any problems all the way up to 5700 CPI/1000Hz polling. Although since owning that mouse I've learned that I really don't find any personal benefit from using such expensive mice in my own life; my Steelseries Kinzu is exactly the mouse I need, for gaming or design work.
It can take a lot to find a good mouse for yourself, especially if you're swept up with popular novelties or luxuries. Just make sure you don't forget about "lower end" mice!
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Logitech does indeed make a version of SetPoint for OSX.
Really? Care to back this up? I can't find anything.
Are you thinking of this? http://www.logitech.com/en-us/support/3129
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Microsoft IME is often mentioned in mouse threads because it offers linear tracking and has a shape that is well-suited to a fairly common grip style. On OSX though, you've got acceleration built into the OS anyway, so you still won't get linear tracking anyway.
With that in mind, just go for something that seems comfortable. I had a pretty good time using a Team Scorpion Zealot under 10.5...no driver support, but there really wasn't any purpose for a driver anyway.
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You can turn off acceleration in OSX, it's not that hard, but not as easy as in Windows.
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Why not just use Windows, where your mouse will work better? At least Microsoft wasn't dumb enough to stick with one-button mice for all these years.
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+1 for the Razer DeathAdder. I'm a Mac user, and that's the mouse I swear by. It's light, it's responsive and, most of all, it's comfortable.
You can turn off acceleration in OSX, it's not that hard, but not as easy as in Windows.
Zeroing mouse acceleration is easy, I use this:
http://triq.net/articles/mouse-acceleration-preference-pane-mac-os-x
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Logitech does indeed make a version of SetPoint for OSX.
Really? Care to back this up? I can't find anything.
Are you thinking of this? http://www.logitech.com/en-us/support/3129
Tomayto, Tomahto.
What is the problem you're experiencing with the G500? I've used it on a 2011 Macbook Air and 2011 Mac Mini without problems out of the box.
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I wouldn't mind just getting a Magic Mouse or Magic Trackpad, but I use a lot of Photoshop/other design software, and I absolutely loathe using either of those two peripherals for those applications [. . .]
What is it about the Magic Mouse that you don't like when using Photoshop?
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Need a good mouse? Avoid anything made by Apple!
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The Razer DeathAdder (and probably all Razer mice) allow you to set the polling rate via their software on OS X, and even after trying numerous other mice both from Razer and other manufacturers, the DeathAdder is the one I always end up using again. Nothing else seems to track as well as it does above 450 CPI (at 400/450CPI, I have yet to find a modern mouse that doesn't fail with fast motion) and it's the only mouse I can use all day without developing some sort of pain in my hand/wrist.
The Abyssus is a nice mouse, but it suffers from jitter on a lot of surfaces, the hardware switches only allow 450/1800/3500 CPI (should have been 450/900/1800) and 125/1000Hz polling (should have been 125/500)
I also found it extremely difficult to do without the extra side buttons on the mouse. The back/forward buttons are used by so many applications nowadays, I really found that certain tasks were noticeably slower without them, and that I was putting more strain on my index finger from clicking the left mouse button that much more often throughout the day.
I love the deathadder, but the build quality is complete ****.
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When I have to use mouse instead of trackball my favourite is Razer Deathadder Black Edition - the one with soft-touch / rubbery sides and no glowing logo. Feels much higher quality than any other Razer product.