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Title: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 12/08]
Post by: danielucf on Sat, 10 November 2012, 02:43:59
I've had this idea in my head for a bit and wanted to put it out there and see what people thought. Now that the interest check has been going for awhile we are going to go for a custom color "Toxic" green that for now I will call "TOX", and GX for dark charcoal.

Here are some mock ups that Batmann made:
(http://i.imgur.com/Nbr5N.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/yjv1V.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/s0NDI.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/RIGJk.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/Gifbu.png)

Batmann's mock ups are what the group buy will include, however there may be a couple minor tweaks to be made still.

The goal is to wait until the Cherry legends are complete, but if it looks like that will take too long then we may just go with WYSE font. The group buy (once started) will run until February/March time frame unless a slight delay would allow us to use Cherry legends. Just remember the longer the group buy runs, the cheaper the set should become, even the base sanctuary set got very reasonably priced while including new legends AND tons of extra keys.

I am also contacting local vendors here on geekhack to try and have a bonus pack of keys available for purchase to match this set. A couple vendors are already on board by sharing some of their double shot legends, and I'm waiting to hear back from other vendors as well. If you are a vendor and I did not contact you, feel free to message me how you might like to participate and we can work something out. The idea is to promote our local vendors which in turn benefits us all. So far keypop.net (http://www.keypop.net/) has pledged to allow us to use their crossbones legend, techkeys.us (http://www.techkeys.us/) has pledged participation but we have not discussed legends yet (maybe center stemmed stepped caps lock), and ZOMG Keycaps! (http://geekhack.org/index.php?board=134.0) has pledged the bio-hazard legend.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: TheSoulhunter on Sat, 10 November 2012, 10:23:46
Interested!
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: inlikeflynn on Sat, 10 November 2012, 10:26:54
also interested!
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: Shadovved on Sat, 10 November 2012, 10:29:08
Me too!
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: ekw808 on Sat, 10 November 2012, 10:29:45
Maybe a softer green, but I'm interested
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: poopmat on Sat, 10 November 2012, 10:32:19
i likle it
in 4 1
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: pasph on Sat, 10 November 2012, 10:42:46
Great color scheme, interested
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: Ragnar on Sat, 10 November 2012, 13:36:14
interested, I <3 the green!
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: Halverson on Sat, 10 November 2012, 13:41:35
In for one fo sho! And +1 to calling it Toxic....maybe Toxic Ooze
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: tjcaustin on Sat, 10 November 2012, 13:42:15
I'd be down for that.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: jcrouse on Sat, 10 November 2012, 13:51:53
I'm in
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: sth on Sat, 10 November 2012, 15:21:06
tempting. is there any interest in making one big set out of everything + one green addon set? would make all parts cheaper and prevent tsangan kit melt-down down the road.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: Ragnorock on Sat, 10 November 2012, 15:31:32
I was thinking of doing this:
(http://i.imgur.com/bSvXZ.jpg)

Slightly different colors, I was going to go for black and a barely darker green. Thoughts?
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: sth on Sat, 10 November 2012, 15:37:00
 dark grey goes with more keyboards than black, imo. plus you already did a black set dude!
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: Ragnorock on Sat, 10 November 2012, 15:44:17
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: OddOne on Sat, 10 November 2012, 15:46:20
Interested! I deffinatley think there should be some new color schemes like this one. There have been plenty of the black white and red which have been done a lot as of late.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: danielucf on Sat, 10 November 2012, 15:51:01
tempting. is there any interest in making one big set out of everything + one green addon set? would make all parts cheaper and prevent tsangan kit melt-down down the road.
That is what I was thinking. All packaged together like sanctuary set and then green tsangan and modifier together. I think only iso sets would not be included.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: Lorem-Ipsum on Sat, 10 November 2012, 15:52:20
I'm certainly interested in a base set, and iso addon and a 17 key addon.

I won't be able to afford it until after Christmas though. Presumably things won't move that fast though?
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: sth on Sat, 10 November 2012, 15:59:16
tempting. is there any interest in making one big set out of everything + one green addon set? would make all parts cheaper and prevent tsangan kit melt-down down the road.
That is what I was thinking. All packaged together like sanctuary set and then green tsangan and modifier together. I think only iso sets would not be included.
as long as the base green on grey comes with the tsangan set i am in for one set! if you are running it you should talk to 7bit about using some of his legends!
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: AKIMbO on Sat, 10 November 2012, 16:12:27
Some inspiration for this thread.  My Realforce 87U.

(http://i45.tinypic.com/977ltu.jpg)
(http://i50.tinypic.com/33c4tqu.jpg)

I'm down if we have a tsangsan kit for the set.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: danielucf on Sat, 10 November 2012, 16:53:56
Some inspiration for this thread.  My Realforce 87U.
Show Image
(http://i50.tinypic.com/33c4tqu.jpg)

Yes this is pretty awesome.

Also I'm not in a major rush, I figured run the Group buy until the middle of January or early February and start collecting money at that time. Also if we delay enough we may be able to use Cherry legends which will supposedly be ready in December for use. I am even more inclined to wait on placing the order with SP until we CAN use them.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: DanGWanG on Sat, 10 November 2012, 17:08:03
Consider me HIGHLY interested!
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: dreamingftw on Sat, 10 November 2012, 17:22:54
In

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Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: Glockateer on Sat, 10 November 2012, 17:23:07
Green is certainly my favorite color.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: MMB on Sat, 10 November 2012, 20:56:10
I am in.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: kinruan on Sat, 10 November 2012, 21:36:16
surely in 4 1 if use Cherry font
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: hashbaz on Sat, 10 November 2012, 22:17:42
Also interested.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: Shadovved on Sat, 10 November 2012, 22:28:36
Me thinks cherry or wyse!
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 10 November 2012, 23:22:15
Some inspiration for this thread.  My Realforce 87U.

Show Image
(http://i45.tinypic.com/977ltu.jpg)


I'm down if we have a tsangsan kit for the set.

If they are closer to this colour (i.e. with a bit more yellow than the original mockup), I would be interested, but not until next year.

Oh, and with that green on black modifiers.

Or ... what about black on toxic green main keys, with toxic green on black modifiers?
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: MMB on Sun, 11 November 2012, 00:47:22
Me thinks cherry

I would speak to hasbaz. I doubt cherry legends will be possible for a long, long time.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: danielucf on Sun, 11 November 2012, 01:02:01
Me thinks cherry

I would speak to hasbaz. I doubt cherry legends will be possible for a long, long time.
Several times recently November/December has been stated for final test keys so if that isn't the case then the font for the community, by the community, needs more insight.
Title: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: sth on Sun, 11 November 2012, 02:28:15
What about 7bit round3 legends?
Title: Re: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: longweight on Sun, 11 November 2012, 02:59:14
What about 7bit round3 legends?

YES!
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: esoomenona on Sun, 11 November 2012, 04:19:00
Interested. And I like the idea of one big set of everything.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: Batmann on Sun, 11 November 2012, 05:08:58
Looks good, I'm in

Also I can help with the mock up
I have a tkl layout somewhere already designed on illustrator, I can do the VAT on GX (I'll need some clarification on the accent stripe thing though and also a source for the font)


I'm happy to share the layout if there is a place for that.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: pasph on Sun, 11 November 2012, 08:44:13
What about 7bit round3 legends?

YES!

+2
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: danielucf on Sun, 11 November 2012, 10:46:44
I think if we wait for cherry legends we wouldn't do 7bit legends.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: longweight on Sun, 11 November 2012, 10:58:24
I would only be in for R3 legends.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: danielucf on Sun, 11 November 2012, 11:05:19
Are the R3 legends what is on the original red alert, and the valentine set?

If so you want those with Cherry font or WYSE? Or is the R3 legends also that weird giant font on the quasi dolch set from R3?
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: Batmann on Sun, 11 November 2012, 11:31:54
where can we find the VAT and GX colors?
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: absyrd on Sun, 11 November 2012, 11:38:19
Or is the R3 legends also that weird giant font on the quasi dolch set from R3?

Yes. Those are the ones people are talking about.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: longweight on Sun, 11 November 2012, 11:38:39
The R3 legends are the awesome large legends :D
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: Batmann on Sun, 11 November 2012, 12:01:05
Not sure about the VAT green, would be good to have the exact color code,

here is a mock up for the standard set
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/63153503/Tkl.LimeonCharcoal.png)

and here is the stripe
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/63153503/Tkl.LimeonCharcoa.stripe.png)
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: Rendom on Sun, 11 November 2012, 12:16:41
Interested !! I love candy green!
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: leesofi on Sun, 11 November 2012, 12:39:19
it can be green dolch !
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: reaper on Sun, 11 November 2012, 12:47:35
I'm in for a set if that green num row comes standard with option for tsangan's kit since I'm only using keyboards with 1.5x mods these days. lol
Title: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: Rinsaku on Sun, 11 November 2012, 12:49:00
So dope! Interested for a set
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: danielucf on Sun, 11 November 2012, 14:08:13
The R3 legends are the awesome large legends :D
I'm not really a fan of those, I really want this to be with Cherry font so I'm trying to get a realistic idea when they will be ready for use, and potentially try to be a stick to poke for collection of the funds. Just look how quickly Sanctuary set was created? I'm kind of dumbfounded what is taking Cherry legends so long. I don't think we should be holding up US legends if alternate characters from other languages are holding it up. Cater to the majority of the community. Heck use this Toxic set for refining the legends if need be. I'll help with donating and test key fees if need be.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: longweight on Sun, 11 November 2012, 14:09:35
The Cherry legends won't be happening for months, they haven't even started rechecking the donations let alone collecting cash so we will be in for a long wait.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: danielucf on Sun, 11 November 2012, 14:17:44
The Cherry legends won't be happening for months, they haven't even started rechecking the donations let alone collecting cash so we will be in for a long wait.
Right I don't want to send the order to SP until February or March. 4-5 months from now roughly. Does someone with more time available like myself need to drum this up and get the collection going? If it is a donation basis then what does it matter if the donation is now or slightly later? I'd just get it done.

Sanctuary group buy started in July and we will not have the keys until December I believe. I'm looking for at a similar time table.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: longweight on Sun, 11 November 2012, 14:20:03
Nah hashbaz is looking after it.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 11 November 2012, 15:42:47
The Cherry legends won't be happening for months, they haven't even started rechecking the donations let alone collecting cash so we will be in for a long wait.

Sorry for the silly question, but having seen it mentioned a few times - what is this about collecting money for Cherry legends?  Is there some sort of fee that has to be paid to use them?
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: TDub on Sun, 11 November 2012, 15:50:59
Very interessted in this! I think these will look awesome!
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: alaricljs on Sun, 11 November 2012, 15:56:02
Have to pay to make the molds for the legends and pay for keys to be tested on each legend and make sure they'll be done right.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: danielucf on Sun, 11 November 2012, 16:47:27
Sorry for the silly question, but having seen it mentioned a few times - what is this about collecting money for Cherry legends?  Is there some sort of fee that has to be paid to use them?
At one point each key was made available for people to "adopt" and essentially donate the $45 new legend fee. All legends were spoken for pretty quickly if I remember correctly but then the money was never collected.

In my opinion for anything donation based you just collect the donations right away in case people pull out or change their mind later. Collect now, you've got it for sure, collect later and who knows what you'll get. I guess maybe it was more of a pledge thing, but I wish they would get the ball rolling, or at least let everyone know where it stands in one easy to find location since it is such a cool community driven project.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 11 November 2012, 16:59:00
Ah, I see, thank you.

But, given the apparent popularity of these (the number of griup buys where someone asks "Will these have Cherry legends?"), wouldn't it pay SP to make the molds themselves, then sell the keycaps at a slightly higher price?  If they are that popular they would sell, and continue to sell, and SP would recoup their initial investment?
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: Batmann on Sun, 11 November 2012, 17:05:00
Ah, I see, thank you.

But, given the apparent popularity of these (the number of griup buys where someone asks "Will these have Cherry legends?"), wouldn't it pay SP to make the molds themselves, then sell the keycaps at a slightly higher price?  If they are that popular they would sell, and continue to sell, and SP would recoup their initial investment?

If I understood correctly, Cherry legends will only be available for geekhack group buys. SP will have to ask permission to use them.
I kind of like the idea, that makes them very limited.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 11 November 2012, 17:11:50
Sounds good :)  Ok, back to business.

Is there a colour code for toxic green?

The keycaps here http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37270.msg709306#msg709306 look cool, but I couldn't see exactly that colour on SP web site.

The original mockup looks darker, and the mockup by Batmann looks good, but a bit washed out compared to the really bright green (if it is toxic green).
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: Batmann on Sun, 11 November 2012, 17:35:22
I took this color code CMYK  (38, 0, 78, 1), that's what google gave me ^^
looks pretty close to VAT from SP but it's hard to be sure knowing that shades vary from one screen to another
Think our best shot on this is to ask color code to SP
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 11 November 2012, 19:51:05
I have no idea about CMYK, and probably little colour sense (other than liking yellow and colours close to it heh), but I poked some numbers into GIMP and came up with this:

(http://i.imgur.com/0oEmS.jpg)

Looking specifically at F5..F8:

F5 = 6 0 63 0 = the middle of the Enter key from the photo with the toxic green on page 1
F6 = 78 0 94 4 = the original mockup colour
F7 = 20 0 51 19 = the second mockup (a few posts up)
F8 = 38 0 78 1 = the colours you said you used

To me they all look different.  Perhaps something screwed up saving the file, or GIMP interprets the CMYK colours differently or something.

Personally I like the F8 colour - what you said you got from Google, although it is quite different to the mockup.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: danielucf on Sun, 11 November 2012, 20:18:06
I appreciate the effort but the only color that matters is labeled "VAT" in the following image, which I believe is the brightest shade of green SP can do without going custom colored (which I don't even know if they can do)

(http://i.imgur.com/1Teqq.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 11 November 2012, 20:42:15
Make of it what you will, and allowing for different lighting and picture clarity etc., but GIMP reckons that VAT is 31 0 53 24.

Damn Topre!  They have all the good colours.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 11 November 2012, 20:50:26
Here is the above image with both Win keys in this VAT colour (approximately).  They are a pretty close match to what Batmann said, so it is about the closest to the toxic green.

(http://i.imgur.com/WKLjc.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: ekw808 on Sun, 11 November 2012, 20:59:05
Prefer this new one way more, as long as the green isnt the same color as the green from the CCnG.

I'm in for a set if that green num row comes standard with option for tsangan's kit since I'm only using keyboards with 1.5x mods these days. lol

You so fancy.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: nullstring on Sun, 11 November 2012, 21:27:43
color me interested.
I'd also like to see other colors on charcoal like this.
Amber, Blue, and Green.

EDIT: I am not really feeling that toxic color...
Any thoughts on Amber or Blue? It seems like we have plenty of good options with those colors.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: danielucf on Sun, 11 November 2012, 22:42:30
color me interested.
I'd also like to see other colors on charcoal like this.
Amber, Blue, and Green.

EDIT: I am not really feeling that toxic color...
Any thoughts on Amber or Blue? It seems like we have plenty of good options with those colors.
After this toxic set I think a light blue color like signature plastics BBQ might also look good on dark or light charcoal. I personally like darker sets now, they seem more functional long term because you can not really notice as much when they get dirty. Also amber is pretty close to orange, and the OCKC set will be orange on light charcoal supposedly. Been waiting weeks for the group buy to get started *shrug*
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: AriesX on Sun, 11 November 2012, 22:54:02
Id be interested in the set if the orange IC takes too long, also this keybaord would look sick with some glow in the dark caps
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: kinruan on Sun, 11 November 2012, 23:02:17
i like VAT in the color tag
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: esoomenona on Sun, 11 November 2012, 23:47:35
I don't know... I mean VAG is always a good choice, no?
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: tjcaustin on Sun, 11 November 2012, 23:48:46
I think every time the full color ring comes out, that's a suggestion.

Not that I'm complaining.

/bro moment.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: The_Beast on Sun, 11 November 2012, 23:50:13
you mean a broment?
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: esoomenona on Sun, 11 November 2012, 23:52:25
I think we should start an IC for VAG on VAG.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: sth on Sun, 11 November 2012, 23:53:23
IC VAG? is that like when you put bengay on your--
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: tjcaustin on Sun, 11 November 2012, 23:53:50
you mean a broment?

Of course I do, what I did before, that was a test to see who was a real bro and who wasn't.  Call it a bro-check, if you will.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: tjcaustin on Sun, 11 November 2012, 23:55:21
I think we should start an IC for VAG on VAG.

I dunno, that's not that far off from blue waffle hues, I'm not a fan of that kind of VAG on VAG

IC VAG? is that like when you put bengay on your--

First, it gets cold to soothe the pain, then it gets what exactly?
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: alaricljs on Sun, 11 November 2012, 23:59:17
I've asked this before... (just not publicly)  Is there an INA color code?
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: tjcaustin on Mon, 12 November 2012, 00:00:38
If only there were a range of indigo colors for that...
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: alaricljs on Mon, 12 November 2012, 00:03:25
So if B* is blue, and Y* is yellow and R* is red... wtf is V?!!??

Black and brown being some odd code is cool... W* is white...   gaaaaah!
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: tjcaustin on Mon, 12 November 2012, 00:04:55
I'm trying to figure out why v is green, I bet I could find the answer with google, but that would be like cheating.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: alaricljs on Mon, 12 November 2012, 00:05:16
Who wants to run a VAG RA set?
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 12 November 2012, 00:05:35
So if B* is blue, and Y* is yellow and R* is red... wtf is V?!!??

Black and brown being some odd code is cool... W* is white...   gaaaaah!
Verde
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 12 November 2012, 00:06:04
Who wants to run a VAG RA set?
:|
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: tjcaustin on Mon, 12 November 2012, 00:06:45
So if B* is blue, and Y* is yellow and R* is red... wtf is V?!!??

Black and brown being some odd code is cool... W* is white...   gaaaaah!
Verde

See?  Just easier for someone else to say it.  Though, considering where I live, I'm surprised it didn't click earlier for me.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: Ragnorock on Mon, 12 November 2012, 00:11:05
color me interested.
I'd also like to see other colors on charcoal like this.
Amber, Blue, and Green.

EDIT: I am not really feeling that toxic color...
Any thoughts on Amber or Blue? It seems like we have plenty of good options with those colors.
After this toxic set I think a light blue color like signature plastics BBQ might also look good on dark or light charcoal. I personally like darker sets now, they seem more functional long term because you can not really notice as much when they get dirty. Also amber is pretty close to orange, and the OCKC set will be orange on light charcoal supposedly. Been waiting weeks for the group buy to get started *shrug*

If you're going to do green, I get to do blue, deal? I had plans in the works to do both of those but I don't mind each of us doing one so we don't end up doing duplicates. I do want to do it on black though, so maybe down the road we can do a round 2 where we swap, and you do a blue on charcoal and I do the green. Make sense?
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: danielucf on Mon, 12 November 2012, 00:33:11
I don't have a problem with that Ragnorock. I liked the Lambda group buy so I wanted to try a big one. Maybe I'll hate it and stick to smaller ones, maybe I'll love it. Who knows.

Also since the thread is going way off topic with little to no more input I think we are ready to start the group buy. Give it a week or two to get all the mock-ups together and an order page created and we'll get this started.

I had an idea to try and promote some of the small businesses at geekhack through this set. For instance if keypop.net (http://keypop.net) or techkeys.us (http://techkeys.us) wanted to let us use some of their legends to make keys in VAT and GX variants to match this set they will get tons of free publicity just for sharing legends. There might even be ways to bundle in some QWERKey's (http://qwerkeys.co.uk) caps or NIQMOD's (http://geekhack.org/index.php?board=110.0) caps, and I'm interested in other ways to promote other vendors here. The holy grail would be to bundle in a Toxic green CC  :eek: :))
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: rainbowshy on Mon, 12 November 2012, 01:15:35
Interested in this for sure, including an ISO add-on and either a modifier set or accent stripe -- can't quite decide.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 12 November 2012, 02:20:56
I would really like a Toxic Green/Lime Green NIQMODS. Please try to work that in.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: Womble on Mon, 12 November 2012, 06:07:07
Definitely interested
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: JSaintS on Mon, 12 November 2012, 07:04:48
Hi everyone! I'm really interested in this as it is what I'm looking for my keyboard, i just have a question, will there be a spacebar. In one of the set? Also is there a way to have the line of the backspace in the same green as the set?

I'm sorry if those questions have already been asked, but i'm in class, i'll check the topic when i get back home if nobody answered me yet.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: nunobet on Mon, 12 November 2012, 08:22:17
definitely interested!!!!
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: TDub on Mon, 12 November 2012, 10:14:21
Will the |\ key also be available in black on green? I prefer the gap between enter and backspace not to be in a different color, but it's not a dealbreaker for me.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: Acetrak on Mon, 12 November 2012, 10:22:22
It's most likely going to stay the way in the mockup. Reason being that \ and ` are input keys, and Enter and Backspace keys are functions keys. It's also more of a classic/traditional way of coloring
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: danielucf on Mon, 12 November 2012, 10:43:27
Both will be available in both colors because a modifier set will be available. I will also have extra space bars available, maybe even in VAT.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: ferociousfingerings on Mon, 12 November 2012, 11:52:23
*Declaration of Interest*
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 12 November 2012, 13:07:59
Both will be available in both colors because a modifier set will be available. I will also have extra space bars available, maybe even in VAT.

Would it push the cost up much to include a spacebar of each colour and ` and \ keys in each colour?
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 12 November 2012, 13:09:57
I'm sure they'd be extra, though probably not much since they'll already be set up with the machine and colors.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: JSaintS on Mon, 12 November 2012, 13:11:27
I have to admit the " \ keys" would be awesome to add! I don't like the fact that it has to stay of another color :S
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: danielucf on Mon, 12 November 2012, 13:14:32
Well you wouldn't want a "|\" in GX on VAT unless you had the green modifier set, and it will come with the green modifier set. The base set will come with the color stripe accent similar to how Sanctuary does, the modifier set will be separate.

In a week or two we will have all the mock-ups complete and start the group buy and it will all be more clear.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: JSaintS on Mon, 12 November 2012, 13:17:48
Well you wouldn't want a "|\" in GX on VAT unless you had the green modifier set, and it will come with the green modifier set. The base set will come with the color stripe accent similar to how Sanctuary does, the modifier set will be separate.

In a week or two we will have all the mock-ups complete and start the group buy and it will all be more clear.

the thing is I'm not thinking about taking the complete set, I'm just interested in the modifier set :D
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime
Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 12 November 2012, 13:20:10
I'm in for the whole set, so the one key should be an option, if not the both for others who aren't. Though they'd have to be a separate option, right?
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: danielucf on Mon, 12 November 2012, 13:33:12
the thing is I'm not thinking about taking the complete set, I'm just interested in the modifier set :D
Well check out the SP modifier set (http://keycapsdirect.com/pdfs/ModifierSet.pdf) and I think you will be covered.

Also I updated the original post for clarity of how everything will be bundled together, and removed my mock up because it was terrible and confusing.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: wiredPANDA on Mon, 12 November 2012, 13:37:52
Interested.  Especially with the timeline you mentioned.  Gives me enough time to hoard funds on the side for this.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: JSaintS on Mon, 12 November 2012, 14:01:49
ok so I'm in for a mod set and the number row! :D

it's gonna be awesome! :D
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: danielucf on Mon, 12 November 2012, 14:13:37
ok so I'm in for a mod set and the number row! :D

it's gonna be awesome! :D
The number row may only be part of the base set, but if there is enough interest I can probably have it as an a-la-cart option too.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: Acetrak on Mon, 12 November 2012, 14:19:59
I don't think I saw it, but maybe I just suck at reading. I'm assuming both a stepped caps lock and full touch caps lock will be available?
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: boost on Mon, 12 November 2012, 14:28:22
I like the darker/softer green setup, put me down for 1 set + tsangan kit
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: Batmann on Mon, 12 November 2012, 14:52:04
I did some possible modifiers on my spare time today,
it would "sign" the set and add a bit of  toxicity!

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/63153503/modifiers-02.png)
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Daniel is checking what can be done respecting double shot constraints.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: longweight on Mon, 12 November 2012, 14:54:11
Can the green not be more toxic? Looks pretty soft at the moment.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: JSaintS on Mon, 12 November 2012, 14:56:11
I did some possible modifiers on my spare time today,
it would "sign" the set and add a bit of  toxicity!

Show Image
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/63153503/modifiers-02.png)

                                    1                                                2                                                      3
       

Daniel is checking what can be done respecting double shot constraints.

those symbols look cool :D
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: boost on Mon, 12 November 2012, 14:57:08
I did some possible modifiers on my spare time today,
it would "sign" the set and add a bit of  toxicity!

Show Image
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/63153503/modifiers-02.png)

                                    1                                                2                                                      3
       

Daniel is checking what can be done respecting double shot constraints.

Those are sick..Coming in 1.5mods?
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: kravlin on Mon, 12 November 2012, 14:59:36
I'm interested as well.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: sherryton on Mon, 12 November 2012, 15:01:42
I did some possible modifiers on my spare time today,
it would "sign" the set and add a bit of  toxicity!

Show Image
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/63153503/modifiers-02.png)

                                    1                                                2                                                      3
       

Daniel is checking what can be done respecting double shot constraints.

www.keyboardscience.org

I guess this does not work anymore, but there was a controversy a few years ago against some of the admins of GeekHack and GeekHack.  Those admins broke off to make a new web-site of their own called www.keyboardscience.org.  Some geekhackers signed up another account to that forum, but not many people moved.  It didn't turn out so well, so I believe deskthority bought the domain name, and if you went on keyboardscience, then it would direct you to deskthority.  Those logos were similar to keyboardscience's logo lol.

Just some fun history!
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: pasph on Mon, 12 November 2012, 15:18:00
Interested only in GX on VAT modifier set
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 12 November 2012, 15:38:25
Can the green not be more toxic? Looks pretty soft at the moment.

I asked too, but this is the most toxic standard green.  Anything more toxic would be a custom order (and thus probably more expensive).
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: longweight on Mon, 12 November 2012, 15:40:15
How much more expensive though? An extra 10 USD would be well worth it!
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 12 November 2012, 15:43:23
How much more expensive though? An extra 10 USD would be well worth it!

I would like something a bit more toxic too - cost??
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: MarkPharaoh on Mon, 12 November 2012, 15:46:43
These caps sound awesome, I'm interested.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: danielucf on Mon, 12 November 2012, 15:57:50
I'll ask Melissa how much they can tweak colors to get a slightly more neon shade of green. I kind of thought they had what was available, because they really don't have purple at all, only a lavender light purple. Then again they were able to mix colors to create the meth caps so I'll try and find out.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: i3oilermaker on Mon, 12 November 2012, 16:01:26
The result of mixing colors can be inconsistent colors (also seen with the meth keys)
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 12 November 2012, 16:04:48
Was meth different because they were translucent?

I imagine a slight variation in thickness of a key cap would be more obvious with translucent caps than solid colours.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: i3oilermaker on Mon, 12 November 2012, 16:10:49


Was meth different because they were translucent?


I imagine a slight variation in thickness of a key cap would be more obvious with translucent caps than solid colours.

Most likely
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: danielucf on Mon, 12 November 2012, 18:03:55
Quote from: Melissa Petersen - Signature Plastics LLC
Tweaking colors here in house becomes problematic as it is difficult to get repeatability. The breaking bad color was relatively simple as we took an existing color and 'diluted it' so to speak as it was intended to be translucent. Creating a new shade is not something we really like to mess with in house. We do work with a variety of material suppliers that can create custom color matches for free - the kicker is we need to buy a minimum amount of material ($600). To do a match, they either need a physical sample of the color or a pantone number.
The detail on 2 of those keys may be a bit problematic, but in order to be sure I would need to see the SVG file for each.
Hope this helps!

This is somewhat promising. I asked if our group buy would possibly be enough to reach that $600 of material, if so we can try and get either a physical sample, or a pantone number together. If people really like the brighter color of those topre caps posted earlier maybe someone has an extra key to spare or I can buy an enter key off of EK.

I will also work with Batmann to get the SVG to Melissa so we can have those be part of the set. Maybe one shaped container can be one windows key, with the other as the opposite side windows key, and the bubbles as the menu/function key.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 12 November 2012, 18:12:42
Sounds good :)

I have nothing Topre, and Topre seems to have all the good colours (including the yellow sigh).
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 12 November 2012, 18:16:28
I personally don't think the green of the Topre caps is the right green to aim for. Is it just me?
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: danielucf on Mon, 12 November 2012, 18:16:43
Sounds good :)

I have nothing Topre, and Topre seems to have all the good colours (including the yellow sigh).
Well it looks like with large enough orders we may be able to get our own custom colors made so in the future possibly a nicer yellow, the lime green, and maybe even a real purple.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: AKIMbO on Mon, 12 November 2012, 18:23:16
I can give you a spare of the green topre keycap to help with color matching if you want.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: danielucf on Mon, 12 November 2012, 18:28:29
I can give you a spare of the green topre keycap to help with color matching if you want.
As long as you are alright with never seeing it again, because I have a feeling you may not be able to get it back. I will see if we need to send it to Melissa, or directly to the material supplier.
Title: Re: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: AKIMbO on Mon, 12 November 2012, 18:30:15
I can give you a spare of the green topre keycap to help with color matching if you want.
As long as you are alright with never seeing it again, because I have a feeling you may not be able to get it back. I will see if we need to send it to Melissa, or directly to the material supplier.
Yeah, I'm fine with that.  I have a few spare modifiers of the lime green caps...so it doesn't matter to me if i never get the caps back.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: OrangeJewce on Mon, 12 November 2012, 18:41:08
Sounds good :)

I have nothing Topre, and Topre seems to have all the good colours (including the yellow sigh).
Well it looks like with large enough orders we may be able to get our own custom colors made so in the future possibly a nicer yellow, the lime green, and maybe even a real purple.

omg TMNT keycaps... /dreams

Cheers,
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: The_Beast on Mon, 12 November 2012, 18:44:49
We NEED a better purple, simply because SP doesn't have one
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: danielucf on Mon, 12 November 2012, 18:48:22
We NEED a better purple, simple because SP doesn't have one
Pay $600 for materials and you get your wish :p
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: AKIMbO on Mon, 12 November 2012, 18:49:33
We NEED a better purple Donatello, simple because SP doesn't have one

^There fixed that for the TMNT set.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: Guillairmo on Mon, 12 November 2012, 21:41:08
<- interest
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: boost on Mon, 12 November 2012, 21:51:41
Not I really want the set...
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: hashbaz on Mon, 12 November 2012, 22:07:45
+1 for a good purple Donatello
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: OrangeJewce on Mon, 12 November 2012, 23:10:22
Damn, now I really do want a TMNT set! Haha. Let's make a Donatello happen!

Cheers,
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: hashbaz on Mon, 12 November 2012, 23:43:56
(http://i.imgur.com/NiwzJ.png)
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: OrangeJewce on Mon, 12 November 2012, 23:53:20
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/NiwzJ.png)


Nothing short of pure win.

Cheers,
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: jeroplane on Mon, 12 November 2012, 23:54:01
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/NiwzJ.png)


Those would look great on F5-F8!
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 12 November 2012, 23:57:44
Start a GB for those already... they won't work here. Wrong green, but awesome nonetheless and do want
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 13 November 2012, 00:00:12
I doubt $600 worth of purple will be needed to make these, unfortunately.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 13 November 2012, 00:03:16
Make a green and purple GB! I would be in on that for sure.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: TheSoulhunter on Tue, 13 November 2012, 01:05:35
If we get the Topre green Id even get 3 keysets!
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: Batmann on Tue, 13 November 2012, 01:40:23
I personally don't think the green of the Topre caps is the right green to aim for. Is it just me?

I also have doubts, I find it too electric,
I tend to get bored quicker with flashy things but maybe it's just me,
An in between would be great imho
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: KeyPop on Tue, 13 November 2012, 01:46:55
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/NiwzJ.png)


Extremely good idea! Superb job! ^^
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: TDub on Tue, 13 November 2012, 09:51:33
Back on topic: I asked sleabo (qwerkeys) on his subforum and it seams like they will get a color called lime green, which might be more what was originally intended as the color for this set. However the problem is they have a MOQ of 100 on modifiers, which makes groupbuys for whole sets more complicated. They will probably also be more expensive then SP.

Personally I would really like to get a Qwerkeys set at some point and Lime Green on Black would definitly be awesome, so just keep it in mind as an option.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: nullstring on Tue, 13 November 2012, 10:10:20
color me interested.
I'd also like to see other colors on charcoal like this.
Amber, Blue, and Green.

EDIT: I am not really feeling that toxic color...
Any thoughts on Amber or Blue? It seems like we have plenty of good options with those colors.
After this toxic set I think a light blue color like signature plastics BBQ might also look good on dark or light charcoal. I personally like darker sets now, they seem more functional long term because you can not really notice as much when they get dirty. Also amber is pretty close to orange, and the OCKC set will be orange on light charcoal supposedly. Been waiting weeks for the group buy to get started *shrug*

I like BBJ, but BBQ would also work.
Amber looks tougher... YBP is too yellow.. the rest are too orange. Oh well.

Looking forward to a BBJ and Charcoal set.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: SwissFTW on Tue, 13 November 2012, 10:27:49
Mark me interested for a set!
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: Ragnorock on Tue, 13 November 2012, 10:42:06
I doubt $600 worth of purple will be needed to make these, unfortunately.
It wouldn't be a direct match but you could dyesub purple onto it since its darker than lime green. Not sure how the color would need to be adjusted since its being printed on lime vs white though. Just a possibility, I agree it sucks we don't have any purples to work with.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: danielucf on Tue, 13 November 2012, 17:49:35
Show Image
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/63153503/modifiers-02.png)

I think to save a $45 legend fee we should pick one of these two flasks or create a new one. On the 1.25 set the flask we choose will be the two windows keys, and the bubbles will be the menu key. I guess we can add a regular menu key to the extra keys section which will already contain two regular windows keys.

How should we handle the Winkeyless 1.5x piece of the set? Does everyone want keys that say "Control" and "Alt" or would everyone be happy with two flasks and two bubbles? If people DO want the text keys, should we do one flask and bubbles or two flasks and two bubbles? I want the legends to be large and look good on the 1.25 and 1.5x size keys and don't really want to pay more $45 legend fees to make small versions just for the 1x size keys in the winkeyless set so those will probably just be diamonds.

Also I'm curious is this the kind of toxic green that people would like to see? Because I think the topre "lime" is pretty close, but we could always just figure out an appropriate pantone number.
(http://lambdageneration.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Bm_mr_08.jpg)

Man this image is making me think I want a Lambda and Black Mesa logo keys...
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 13 November 2012, 18:36:28
Also I'm curious is this the kind of toxic green that people would like to see? Because I think the topre "lime" is pretty close, but we could always just figure out an appropriate pantone number.
Show Image
(http://lambdageneration.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Bm_mr_08.jpg)


Man this image is making me think I want a Lambda and Black Mesa logo keys...

This!  Definitely!  Toxic green, plus lambda and BM logos :)  In toxic green.  Like this.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: Ragnar on Tue, 13 November 2012, 19:11:34
Also I'm curious is this the kind of toxic green that people would like to see? Because I think the topre "lime" is pretty close, but we could always just figure out an appropriate pantone number.
Show Image
(http://lambdageneration.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Bm_mr_08.jpg)


Man this image is making me think I want a Lambda and Black Mesa logo keys...

This!  Definitely!  Toxic green, plus lambda and BM logos :)  In toxic green.  Like this.

yup, this would be awesome!
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: danielucf on Tue, 13 November 2012, 19:24:17
So the question is, do we add the Lambda and Black Mesa logos and keep the flask and bubble keys that Batmann designed? (I really like them) Or do we replace Batmann's keys instead of the more expensive set? Maybe if we sell all the custom keys a-la-cart then it will just be cheaper in general to cover the new legend fees. If we sell 100 base sets but 300 of the custom keys the legend fees almost become negligible. Also the black mesa key is pretty straight forward, but what lambda key do we want? I'm partial to the HL2 lambda logo but without the 2 in there.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: iArson on Tue, 13 November 2012, 19:27:53
So excited for the order :D
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 13 November 2012, 19:36:21
Ideally the set would contain all the custom keys - Batmann's flasks and bubbles, as well as BM and HL logos.

But that would probably drive the overall price up?

Also a few people don't really seem to like green, toxic in particular, so would MOQ 100 be attainable?

And, how about 1 * HL lambda plus 1 * HL2 lambda?  If you were thinkinf of Win keys or something.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: danielucf on Tue, 13 November 2012, 20:43:25
Also a few people don't really seem to like green, toxic in particular, so would MOQ 100 be attainable?

And, how about 1 * HL lambda plus 1 * HL2 lambda?  If you were thinkinf of Win keys or something.
Why do we need MOQ of 100? These will be SP double shots. Full sets from QWERKeys are crazy expensive.

I think if we open it up a-la-cart for the custom keys even people that don't buy the main set will still make a purchase bringing down their cost. If we do end up getting a custom toxic green color though for this set I think a lot of people will get interested.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 13 November 2012, 20:52:08
Why do we need MOQ of 100? These will be SP double shots. Full sets from QWERKeys are crazy expensive.

Er, because you said:

If we sell 100 base sets but 300 of the custom keys the legend fees almost become negligible.

:)

Perhaps I misunderstood, I'm still kinda new to group buys.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: danielucf on Tue, 13 November 2012, 21:39:26
That was just an example not what we actually have to achieve. When I ran the Lambda group buy over 300 keys were purchased, everyone that ordered got 2-5 with only a few getting one key, and a few getting 6+. Adding the keys a-la-cart will make the ones that are part of the base set cheaper and help cover the new legend fees.

I think with Cherry legends, a custom color that has never been done before we, an a good selection of cool a-la-cart keys I don't think we'll have any trouble hitting good quantities, probably breaking 100 base sets.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 13 November 2012, 22:12:03
Ok, thanks for that.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: ferociousfingerings on Tue, 13 November 2012, 22:38:26
Also I'm curious is this the kind of toxic green that people would like to see? Because I think the topre "lime" is pretty close, but we could always just figure out an appropriate pantone number.
Show Image
(http://lambdageneration.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Bm_mr_08.jpg)


Man this image is making me think I want a Lambda and Black Mesa logo keys...

This!  Definitely!  Toxic green, plus lambda and BM logos :)  In toxic green.  Like this.

AAAAAAAGHHHHHHH!!!!!!

1. "mutagen" green (on the verge of yellow, but still green)
2. translucent
3. glowing

This, right here. This is the one.

Oh, and, a set made with "mutagen" Hot-Pink, instead of the toxic-glowing-mutagen-green.

Someone do it. Fo'realz.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 13 November 2012, 22:47:06
^ lol I don't think you'd be able to get ALL of that at once, as nice as it sounds.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: Ragnar on Wed, 14 November 2012, 01:59:58
How about some Combine logos or City 17 logos in addition to the Lambda and BM?
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: danielucf on Wed, 14 November 2012, 02:11:42
How about some Combine logos or City 17 logos in addition to the Lambda and BM?

No good SVGs will be ignored.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: Ragnar on Wed, 14 November 2012, 02:21:00
what does that mean? need pictures?
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: danielucf on Wed, 14 November 2012, 02:28:04
SVGs are the files that are needed to send to the key manufacturer. I'm not familiar with making them, or the specifications required.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: Ragnar on Wed, 14 November 2012, 02:47:24
the SVG files were attached as downloads, so here are some PNGs. I have the SVG files if there is interest.

City 17
[attach=1]

Combine
[attach=2]

Overwatch Elite
[attach=3]
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: Batmann on Wed, 14 November 2012, 04:00:58
I'm no big fan of the toxic set being specific to Half life, I don't mind some HL modifiers but I guess not 4 of them
Those are nice logos but they just don't ring a bell to me, people who don't know the game might be in the same situation (I'll draw whatever the majority wants though)
Also I won't be able to produce anymore mock-ups next week, I'll try my best to come up with a complete description (like what was so well done for the Sanctuary set) before the end of the week, already working on it with Daniel
And last but not least if we are to go for a custom color we need to decide the color code (CMYK would be the best, but RGB is good too) and this is were it gets hard because we won't all see the same color due to monitor calibration...


stay tuned! ^^
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: nereme on Wed, 14 November 2012, 04:27:19
I am in
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: OrangeJewce on Wed, 14 November 2012, 09:48:36
I'm no big fan of the toxic set being specific to Half life, I don't mind some HL modifiers but I guess not 4 of them
Those are nice logos but they just don't ring a bell to me, people who don't know the game might be in the same situation (I'll draw whatever the majority wants though)
Also I won't be able to produce anymore mock-ups next week, I'll try my best to come up with a complete description (like what was so well done for the Sanctuary set) before the end of the week, already working on it with Daniel
And last but not least if we are to go for a custom color we need to decide the color code (CMYK would be the best, but RGB is good too) and this is were it gets hard because we won't all see the same color due to monitor calibration...


stay tuned! ^^


I agree. personally I'd rather have chemistry or toxicology related references as opposed to half-life ones.

Cheers,
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 14 November 2012, 10:18:44
^Same here. I wouldn't be opposed to some extra keys, but not have those as the focus.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: MMB on Wed, 14 November 2012, 10:25:49
Will the green color be updated? Doesn't really look 'toxic' in that mockup.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: Acetrak on Wed, 14 November 2012, 11:47:44
I'm assuming this is a SP doubleshot GB. I don't think any colors on the ABS color ring will look like AKIMbO's Realforce 'toxic' keycaps.

For reference from SP's site:
(http://keycapsdirect.com/images/ABSColorRing.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: kinruan on Wed, 14 November 2012, 12:35:43
how about using lighter color as the base color on the keys instead of black?
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: kinruan on Wed, 14 November 2012, 12:53:15
Very agree to make this a HL set, I suggest making the bubbles and flasks be original, there should be an extra set including the text 1.25 keys, a Lambada , and a Black Mesa. Tsangan set involves the same but 1.5 text keys.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 14 November 2012, 13:09:37
The base colour is supposed to be charcoal - like dark gray.

Topre have all the best colours, especially the yellow.  Is this some sort of predetermined division between MX and Topre keycap colours?  Have Topre copyrighted those colours or something?

And maybe this is becoming a little too much Half-Life oriented.  The toxic green picture probably pushed a few of us fans over the edge lol, so I don't mind if it is a "toxic" theme with logos to suit.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: danielucf on Wed, 14 November 2012, 13:29:48
We will keep it with Batmann's toxic themed keys and have a separate half-life pack during the same group buy in matching colors to help us reach the threshold we need for a new custom color.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: Ragnar on Wed, 14 November 2012, 13:34:58
I tend to get a little carried away when it comes to Half Life LOL. I am a bit if a fan  :))

I am in regardless of HL keys or not, but a HL pack would be sweet.

I like the beaker graphics too.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: separus on Wed, 14 November 2012, 17:16:30
Look awesome. I'm in for a set
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: longweight on Wed, 14 November 2012, 17:17:47
Topre green would be great, it needs to be vivid. There are too many flat colours in key sets!
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: Batmann on Wed, 14 November 2012, 17:21:32
btw, I just realized that green gas mask will rock on this set (even though I would personally prefer a toxic CCs!)
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: danielucf on Wed, 14 November 2012, 17:40:37
btw, I just realized that green gas mask will rock on this set (even though I would personally prefer a toxic CCs!)
Yea I really go the idea from a bunch of stuff that has come from the community.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: OrangeJewce on Wed, 14 November 2012, 17:54:28
Topre green would be great, it needs to be vivid. There are too many flat colours in key sets!

I don't see how this is possible unless we want to soak up the $600 for a new color.

Cheers,
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: danielucf on Wed, 14 November 2012, 18:12:45
Topre green would be great, it needs to be vivid. There are too many flat colours in key sets!

I don't see how this is possible unless we want to soak up the $600 for a new color.

Cheers,
This really won't be a problem. If we sell 75-100 base sets I think we would use up the the minimum $600. Don't be confused about that $600, that is not a fee to get a new color, that is just what SP pays for any color, even colors they already have to get the materials for use.  While we wait for the cherry font to be ready I will probably do a 4 or 5 key Half-life pack in the new color, and front the $600 to get the new color sooner rather than later.

So lets try and get the color decided on. Just send over a topre lime green and copy that color? Or find the pantone color we want? Just sending over a topre key seems much easier and everyone is pretty familiar and most like the color.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 14 November 2012, 19:41:02
Is it the green on AKIMbO's RealForce?  As in here: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37270.msg709306#msg709306

If so that looks great and really toxic, but where did those key caps come from?

EK has "lime green" Topre caps, but they look very washed-out compared to the above ones: http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,toprekeys&pid=xf0100kt11

OTOH it could just be the lighting, or my monitor.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: MMB on Wed, 14 November 2012, 19:45:19
It would be best to send a topre lime green to SP and see if they can color match it, imo.


I have some extra if you need one.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: Ragnar on Wed, 14 November 2012, 20:47:51
I agree, the Topre lime green.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 14 November 2012, 20:47:54
Is the Topre "lime green" the same as AKIMbO has on his RealForce?  It looks more washed out ...
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: danielucf on Wed, 14 November 2012, 21:28:45
Is the Topre "lime green" the same as AKIMbO has on his RealForce?  It looks more washed out ...
Yes I'm pretty sure there is only one green color in topre switches.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: AKIMbO on Wed, 14 November 2012, 21:37:28
Yes...my green topre keycaps are the sames ones linked on EK.  The green in my pic is a little more vivid than what the keys look like irl.  The green in the EK pic is a tad bit more yellow than what the keys look like irl.  It's a hard color to photograph properly.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 14 November 2012, 21:51:08
Cool :)  If it is even halfway between the two irl it will be fantastic!
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: MMB on Thu, 15 November 2012, 01:39:41
Lime Green Topre color:

(http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/q603/magicmeatballs/Private/DSC_0353_zps7530045d.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: The_Beast on Thu, 15 November 2012, 01:40:33
I love that green.


Do you like that cable? I was looking at getting one
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: MMB on Thu, 15 November 2012, 01:43:50
Yeah, I have like 4 different color ones. Got them from China. I like em. Although, I would rather have flat cable ones.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 15 November 2012, 02:48:13
That picture looks darker than AKIMbO's but lighter than EK's ones.  Still, it does look pretty good :)
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: Batmann on Thu, 15 November 2012, 04:10:25
Here are the Pantone colors (http://www.fmrincorporated.org/misc/PColorChart.pdf)

PMS 375 seems to be pretty close to MMB hhkb, what do you think?
I think SP can work with the pantone code


Moar colors here (http://www.anchorflagandflagpole.com/pantone_colors_to_cmyk.htm)

edit: I tried PMS 375 an d 368, no huge difference...:/
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 15 November 2012, 04:25:11
I like that the first page is all yellow :)

But now you are going to ask for a decision.  After a quick look I reckon 380 or 381 is closest to toxic green in the HL screen shot above.

Maybe - my colour sense is not necessarily that great.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: Batmann on Thu, 15 November 2012, 04:44:43
Your colour sense looks pretty accurate ^^
here is the numpad with PMS 381

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/63153503/ToxicNumpadl-02.png)

(I used 382 for the darker shade just for information)
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: Batmann on Thu, 15 November 2012, 05:37:19
Things are shapin' up

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/63153503/toxicSetl-01.png)


edit: I screwed the base kit, this is base kit with modifiers
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: OrangeJewce on Thu, 15 November 2012, 07:08:03
I strongly feel the base kit should include the stripe; ala the Exocet (sanctuary) set.

Cheers,
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: eon on Thu, 15 November 2012, 07:54:12
Really like the colors and also the stripe mode !

So toxic stripe and toxic modifiers would be two options ? The base set beeing full dark ?

Anyway, very interested!
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: Shadovved on Thu, 15 November 2012, 07:56:31
I like the idea of including the stripe and the mods together with the base set just like the Diablo set :)

Makes it simple for you to reach your MOQ and easier for us to order too :)
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: TheSoulhunter on Thu, 15 November 2012, 08:09:43
Will there be a option for a "reverse" set (charcoal on green as base with green on charcoal modifiers)?
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: pasph on Thu, 15 November 2012, 08:32:09
Will there be a option for a "reverse" set (charcoal on green as base with green on charcoal modifiers)?

+1
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: OrangeJewce on Thu, 15 November 2012, 08:44:16
Will there be a option for a "reverse" set (charcoal on green as base with green on charcoal modifiers)?

+1

Unlikely because of how ordering through SP works.

Cheers,
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: mithinza on Thu, 15 November 2012, 09:29:12
If it comes out as the mock-up design & color, I'll in.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: insomnesia on Thu, 15 November 2012, 10:22:08
I want one...

Interested!
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: pasph on Thu, 15 November 2012, 11:23:45
Please include the option to get only the spacebar
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: Guillairmo on Thu, 15 November 2012, 11:26:00
When do you think you will be taking orders?
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: danielucf on Thu, 15 November 2012, 11:33:29
Will there be a option for a "reverse" set (charcoal on green as base with green on charcoal modifiers)?
Actually the base set is supposed to be all charcoal modifiers, and the bright green modifiers will be separate.

Please include the option to get only the spacebar
I convinced them to have extra spacebars for the valentines set, so of course I'll have them :D
I like the idea of including the stripe and the mods together with the base set just like the Diablo set :)

Makes it simple for you to reach your MOQ and easier for us to order too :)

That is the plan. The winkeyless (1.5 mods) and 7x spacebar will be included too, the base set will be very similar to sanctuary. I also don't think anyone would be upset with center stemmed, and regular stepped caps lock right?

I'm really excited about how nice looking this is shaping up. Batmann is doing an awesome job with these mock ups.
Title: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: whiskerBox on Thu, 15 November 2012, 12:03:14
This is slowly gaining my interest more and more everyday. I have dreamed of a SoWaRe set with neon green legends for a long time, but this is pretty close. If only the mods were a slightly darker charcoal then the rest I would be head over heels for this. Very interested in what the final design will end up as.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 15 November 2012, 12:44:46
Show Image
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/63153503/toxicSetl-01.png)

This latest mockup looks totally jawsome.  Custom colors ftw.  Personally I'm thinking all charcoal + toxic number row will look best.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: whiskerBox on Thu, 15 November 2012, 12:56:54


Show Image
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/63153503/toxicSetl-01.png)



Ok that looks awesome!
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: SmallFry on Thu, 15 November 2012, 12:59:28
Agreed. We now need a Tsangan set!
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: MMB on Thu, 15 November 2012, 13:02:04

This latest mockup looks totally jawsome.  Custom colors ftw.  Personally I'm thinking all charcoal + toxic number row will look best.

^This, but have charcoal mods or toxic mod options. Base kit can be all charcoal, with toxic mod set option.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 15 November 2012, 13:17:21
Agree with MMB.  Or maybe we have the charcoal mods be the add-on, depending on what most people want?
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: inlikeflynn on Thu, 15 November 2012, 13:21:59
Things are shapin' up

Show Image
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/63153503/toxicSetl-01.png)



edit: I screwed the base kit, this is base kit with modifiers

that looks awesome.

Can we include or have an option for little 1x 0 and little 1x+ for the NumPad?
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: Acetrak on Thu, 15 November 2012, 13:30:16
Should a poll of some sort be taken?

I vote charcoal mods and toxic stripe as the base set  :cool:
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: kinruan on Thu, 15 November 2012, 13:41:28
how about make all toxic mods a kit, the base kit should be all charcoal and an addition toxic number row, like the current Sat Kit.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: shadewolf on Thu, 15 November 2012, 14:15:14
Do want!
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: mickd on Thu, 15 November 2012, 18:12:42
You've got the Fn and Win key reversed on the bottom right in the base set :)

I'm liking this set more and more as well! Colour me interested too.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: yuiop on Thu, 15 November 2012, 19:23:25
Wow great job on the mockups.  I agree with Hash Charcoal + green num row looks the best.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: MMB on Thu, 15 November 2012, 19:26:19
Also make sure to add a tsangan kit to that mockup :P
Title: Re: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: SmallFry on Thu, 15 November 2012, 20:05:02
Also make sure to add a tsangan kit to that mockup :P
That's what I said!
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 15 November 2012, 20:13:28
^&^^ I concur.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: MMB on Thu, 15 November 2012, 20:26:16
And also maybe an ISO option, for our European friends.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: Ragnar on Thu, 15 November 2012, 20:51:51
how about make all toxic mods a kit, the base kit should be all charcoal and an addition toxic number row, like the current Sat Kit.

I agree with this.

The mockups look great!
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: whiskerBox on Thu, 15 November 2012, 22:43:15
There are so many toxic keys maybe we should just do 2 sets, toxic and charcoal.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 15 November 2012, 22:53:21
Its looking like a 126 key set so far ...
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: danielucf on Thu, 15 November 2012, 23:13:17
Should a poll of some sort be taken?

I vote charcoal mods and toxic stripe as the base set  :cool:
how about make all toxic mods a kit, the base kit should be all charcoal and an addition toxic number row, like the current Sat Kit.

I've said several times the default base kit will be like sanctuary set and the mod kit will be separate.

Can we include or have an option for little 1x 0 and little 1x+ for the NumPad?
Yes I think we could add that in so it is compatible with more boards. It is only what 3 more keys? Can you post a picture of what you want?

And also maybe an ISO option, for our European friends.
There will be an iso pack also, I believe everything I want to be in the pack is in the first post
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: Cobertt on Fri, 16 November 2012, 00:22:41
I'm interested, if this goes through sooner than the orange and charcoal.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: danielucf on Fri, 16 November 2012, 00:31:24
I'm interested, if this goes through sooner than the orange and charcoal.
OCKC has been MIA so not sure what is going on there but we will take orders for the toxic set for 3-4 months like the Sanctuary set to get the numbers up and hopefully cherry font will be ready by then.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: kinruan on Fri, 16 November 2012, 07:45:35
Can we include or have an option for little 1x 0 and little 1x+ for the NumPad?
i think he is talking about the two on 18XX boards.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: Cobertt on Fri, 16 November 2012, 09:31:12
I'm interested, if this goes through sooner than the orange and charcoal.
OCKC has been MIA so not sure what is going on there but we will take orders for the toxic set for 3-4 months like the Sanctuary set to get the numbers up and hopefully cherry font will be ready by then.

Yeah its kind of a bummer that it is, I also think that doing two runs of this may be a good idea, lots of people really like the cream cheese and green and sets are going for close to 100$ I think that if it was done in two runs people who are on the fence can make a decision whether or not they like it so that they're not more group buys like the Red Alert 2.0 and look-a-likes because people were unsure of what they were getting. I think that two group buys over a 5-6 month period would be a good idea. This also helps get imperfections out early like the stepped caps mistake in CCnG. This is just my two cents though.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: Batmann on Fri, 16 November 2012, 10:38:15
Think we're almost there!

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/63153503/ToxicbaseKit-01.png)

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/63153503/ToxicModifiersKit-02.png)

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/63153503/ToxicNumpad-03.png)

Still needs the ISO kit
I can also do a Tsangan but I'm not the boss here, Daniel is in charge, I'm just helping him out with the mock-ups
check this out with him ^__^

I tried a new window key logo ( windows 8 ) hope have not been to bold here!
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: i3oilermaker on Fri, 16 November 2012, 10:40:40
That beaker key has too much detail for a doubleshot...will need to be replaced or simplified.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: OrangeJewce on Fri, 16 November 2012, 10:42:30
Maybe no bubbles on the beaker, just make it somewhat filled?

That should help. Thicker walls too.

Cheers,
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: MMB on Fri, 16 November 2012, 10:47:52
still need the 1800 short right shift in the tsangan kit.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: Batmann on Fri, 16 November 2012, 10:48:31
That beaker key has too much detail for a doubleshot...will need to be replaced or simplified.

I was expecting it tbh,
would this be ok?

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/63153503/beaker-04.png)
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 16 November 2012, 10:49:46
Also, as asked by inlikeflynn, the couple more caps for the numpad.

Good job, batmann. Looking very nice.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: NikoGasm on Fri, 16 November 2012, 10:52:07
I'm very interested in this. Count me in for a base and modifier set.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: Batmann on Fri, 16 November 2012, 10:52:45
still need the 1800 short right shift in the tsangan kit.

I copied the Sanctuary keyset,
I'm not sure I know what the 1800 short shift key is, can you post a picture?
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: MMB on Fri, 16 November 2012, 10:55:38
still need the 1800 short right shift in the tsangan kit.

I copied the Sanctuary keyset,
I'm not sure I know what the 1800 short shift key is, can you post a picture?

Just speak to tsangan as to what a real tsangan kit should include. He will give you specs, or you can look at the Cream Cheese & Green tsangan kit. That is what it should include, officially
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: MMB on Fri, 16 November 2012, 10:56:39
Tsangan Add-on Kit
This is an extension to the base set, aimed towards the base set to fit in winkeyless boards or other custom boards such as Phantom, DOX, Cherry 1800, DK Saver, 356CL and many more!

The following is included in this kit:
2 Alt (1.5x)
2 Ctrl (1.5x)
2 Star (1x)
2 Diamond (1x)
1 Stepped CapsLock (off-centre stem) Don't ***** at me if you can't read
1 1800 Shift (1.75x) (This is a short shift in 1.75x size for the right shift so you can fit another 1x key beside it)
1 Space bar (7x) (Cherry size space bar for winkeyless keyboards)
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: Batmann on Fri, 16 November 2012, 10:59:48
^ Ok, I see what you mean

I have no problem doing this if Daniel is fine with it
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: i3oilermaker on Fri, 16 November 2012, 11:00:07
That beaker key has too much detail for a doubleshot...will need to be replaced or simplified.

I was expecting it tbh,
would this be ok?

Show Image
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/63153503/beaker-04.png)


The problem is with the 3 bubbles...the minimum line thickness is going to be significantly thicker than what you have.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 16 November 2012, 11:01:47
^ Ok, I see what you mean

I have no problem doing this if Daniel is fine with it
Except we don't have to go with stars and diamonds. Maybe we should vote on the 1x keys, but I like those two that you have there, plus at least one 1x Windows symbol.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: OddOne on Fri, 16 November 2012, 11:14:03
I love your mockups Batmann.  You definitely have a gift for this type of thing.  The 'extras' make the key caps that much more desirable (i.e. the back grounds and title fonts).  Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: i3oilermaker on Fri, 16 November 2012, 11:16:08
I did a super fast mockup...Something like this is actually possible:


[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 16 November 2012, 11:23:06
STARS AND DIAMONDS OR DIE! (I think that the Tsangan kit comes with a Windows key.)
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: MMB on Fri, 16 November 2012, 12:04:27
STARS AND DIAMONDS OR DIE! (I think that the Tsangan kit comes with a Windows key.)

The stars and diamonds are supposed to be the windows keys. But they dont have to be stars and diamonds. He can do 2 of each separate design, whatever that may be.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 16 November 2012, 12:20:31
Oh, I thought that the normal Tsangan kit included a Windows key... Like so...
Signature Plastics Tsangan Kit (http://keycapsdirect.com/pdfs/13KeySet.pdf)
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 16 November 2012, 12:23:46
Oh, I thought that the normal Tsangan kit included a Windows key... Like so...
Signature Plastics Tsangan Kit (http://keycapsdirect.com/pdfs/13KeySet.pdf)
Yes, that's exactly what I would want. For the stars and diamonds, we can use two of each of the symbols provided by batmann, but one Windows key and a Fn key would be great as well.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: eon on Fri, 16 November 2012, 12:25:43
Nice job Batmann, love the toxic mods!
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: danielucf on Fri, 16 November 2012, 19:42:12
^ Ok, I see what you mean

I have no problem doing this if Daniel is fine with it

Make it so #1

Also the modifier set needs to have everything on the right side like the signature plastics modifier sets (the home/end, PgUp/PgDn, arrow keys, etc.)

Would these be the extra keys needed for the 1800 compatible numberpad? or is there a 1x "+" key also?
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-6gTw68Chteg/UDynj2LuAhI/AAAAAAAAB5s/Yv2Jknbce2c/s220/upgrade1.png)
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 16 November 2012, 21:25:14
^Yes, 1x + sign. Also, I was thinking, doesn't it have a different profile - sign?
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: Batmann on Sat, 17 November 2012, 07:03:49
Well, I think I'm done!

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/63153503/ToxicbaseKitFinal-01.png)

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/63153503/ToxicModifiersKitFinal-02.png)

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/63153503/ToxicNumpad%2BISOFinal-03.png)

Hope I understood the modifications you asked for

Thanks i3oiler for checking out the beaker, you got to teach me some of your tricks one day  ;)
And thanks all for your warm feedbacks, you almost got me wet haha  :D

Also for those who like the font it's the DamnedDeluxe, you can find it on dafont.com, probably one of the best I've ever used
Title: Re: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: boost on Sat, 17 November 2012, 07:32:59
q
Well, I think I'm done!

Show Image
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/63153503/ToxicbaseKitFinal-01.png)


Show Image
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/63153503/ToxicModifiersKitFinal-02.png)


Show Image
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/63153503/ToxicNumpad%2BISOFinal-03.png)


Hope I understood the modifications you asked for

Thanks i3oiler for checking out the beaker, you got to teach me some of your tricks one day  ;)
And thanks all for your warm feedbacks, you almost got me wet haha  :D

Also for those who like the font it's the DamnedDeluxe, you can find it on dafont.com, probably one of the best I've ever used

Damn, tht looks great.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: Shadovved on Sat, 17 November 2012, 07:34:09
Agree with boost.

Sweet and sexy :D
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: Octane on Sat, 17 November 2012, 08:35:37
The beaker fits in nicely with the toxic theme. Good job - I like. Everyone's artistic talent here continues to amaze me.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: Lorem-Ipsum on Sat, 17 November 2012, 09:29:54
Looks amazing! My wallet is dreading the pricing though...
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: inlikeflynn on Sat, 17 November 2012, 09:33:52
FYI the tsangan kit is supposed to have the stepped offcenter Caps Lock as well

The tsangan kit + numpad kit, for the 1x "0" and 1x "+" will provide enough keys to cover an 1800 board, so thanks for that. A bunch of them on will end up as the wrong profile, but there isn't much to-do about that for the couple 1800 people.

What about the toxic tsangan kit? that should be in there too and I think it would look pretty sweet. Although the winkeyless boards would still have to purchase the regular mods to finish out the toxic color on their board
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: Batmann on Sat, 17 November 2012, 09:53:04
^Tsangan fixed   :)
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: kinruan on Sat, 17 November 2012, 11:49:47
i really want both toxic on charcoal GH key and Charcoal on Toxic GH key  in the extra kit
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: danielucf on Sat, 17 November 2012, 12:04:47
i really want both toxic on charcoal GH key and Charcoal on Toxic GH key  in the extra kit
Yep we need to add that one to the extra keys section

I would also like to add a center stemmed stepped caps lock to the base set, and one in the toxic color to the modifier set if people want it.
Additionally the "+" key for the number pad might need a toxic colored 1x "+" also but I'm not sure how the keys line up with the main number row so maybe it isn't needed. inlikeflynn can let us know
Lastly the sanctuary set only had the 1.75x shift in the iso set, so we may want to remove it from either the tsangan, or from the iso. Which would everyone prefer? I also want to include the "~`" key for pure compatibility in both colors so take that into account when deciding where the 1.75x shift should go.

Other than those minor things everything looks awesome and I should be able to start the group buy soon.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: jil_jil32 on Sat, 17 November 2012, 12:48:11
I like the "Toxic" idea, and a Toxic set will fit my green Gasmask keycap well. Nice theme, but looking at those modifiers I can not feel the scare of toxic yet, just think of a 'chemical' theme or something like that... maybe just me. Charcoal is fine to me, though I still prefer Black for this set, cause Black and Green is a badass couple.

I would like to have some Biohazard Esc & Modifier keys in Green on Charcoal (Black) & Charcoal (Black) on Green to match with this set. If they couldn't be included in this set, we should have a separate run for them.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-AAUFlyaDJmM/UKfah1EaFvI/AAAAAAAACgI/RbdfRB30c7E/s1000/toxic.png)


/Btw, the VAT green we are going to use for this set is the color of those 420 smiley keycaps...

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-1zcJqbLUX1Y/UKeEXL4bXoI/AAAAAAAACfc/nSA0b9dyhGE/s1000/143.png)


and it is very close to the Lime green of Topre keycaps in real...

(http://media-cache-ec2.pinterest.com/upload/180073685070787085_J1SY586l.jpg)


Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 17 November 2012, 14:59:36
This looks great!

And yeah, Topre have all the best colours.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: älg on Sat, 17 November 2012, 15:01:59
Definitely in for one complete set if there will be all the options batmann posted...
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: Batmann on Sat, 17 November 2012, 15:29:11
I like the "Toxic" idea, and a Toxic set will fit my green Gasmask keycap well. Nice theme, but looking at those modifiers I can not feel the scare of toxic yet, just think of a 'chemical' theme or something like that... maybe just me. Charcoal is fine to me, though I still prefer Black for this set, cause Black and Green is a badass couple.

I would like to have some Biohazard Esc & Modifier keys in Green on Charcoal (Black) & Charcoal (Black) on Green to match with this set. If they couldn't be included in this set, we should have a separate run for them.

Show Image
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-AAUFlyaDJmM/UKfah1EaFvI/AAAAAAAACgI/RbdfRB30c7E/s1000/toxic.png)



/Btw, the VAT green we are going to use for this set is the color of those 420 smiley keycaps...

Show Image
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-1zcJqbLUX1Y/UKeEXL4bXoI/AAAAAAAACfc/nSA0b9dyhGE/s1000/143.png)



and it is very close to the Lime green of Topre keycaps in real...

Show Image
(http://media-cache-ec2.pinterest.com/upload/180073685070787085_J1SY586l.jpg)


this is the problem of choosing a colour jugding by what you see on screen (although we don't have that many options)
mock-ups in the OP are made with the VAT green which I believe is pantone PMS 375,
misleading thing is colours on mock-ups are flat, there is no lighting  so it doesn't shine
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: zzAaron on Sat, 17 November 2012, 15:33:26
lol. this is nice :D


side note: i was gunna try a BFQ on GX gb but this will probably steal all the interest!
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: baldgye on Sat, 17 November 2012, 16:57:38
Well, I think I'm done!

Show Image
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/63153503/ToxicbaseKitFinal-01.png)


Show Image
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/63153503/ToxicModifiersKitFinal-02.png)


Show Image
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/63153503/ToxicNumpad%2BISOFinal-03.png)


Hope I understood the modifications you asked for

Thanks i3oiler for checking out the beaker, you got to teach me some of your tricks one day  ;)
And thanks all for your warm feedbacks, you almost got me wet haha  :D

Also for those who like the font it's the DamnedDeluxe, you can find it on dafont.com, probably one of the best I've ever used

holy ****, if it looks that good I'm defo in they look amazing!
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: mickd on Sat, 17 November 2012, 18:47:36
What about some custom legends for some of the modifiers? Something like what the original red alert set and some of the 7bit sets have. I think those might make a badass set more badass!
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: MMB on Sat, 17 November 2012, 19:05:47
Hmm.... what do you think:

Ctrl or Control?

I kinda like Ctrl, imo.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: SmallFry on Sat, 17 November 2012, 19:09:29
Doesn't matter much to me. Suppose I like Control better than Ctrl if push came to shove.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: Octane on Sat, 17 November 2012, 19:10:39
For the "extra keys" there is 2 windows keys, and the "tsangan set" has one. Should one of them be replaced with another badass key such as the beaker? Maybe a toxic hazmat symbol or something?

Great work !!!
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: Windos on Sat, 17 November 2012, 20:16:25
It's looking really nice. Every iteration of the mock ups are making me want this set even more.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: rekanise on Sat, 17 November 2012, 22:57:45
looks awesome!
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: NikoGasm on Sun, 18 November 2012, 02:25:03
It's looking really nice. Every iteration of the mock ups are making me want this set even more.

Haha, same here dude. I'm willing to lop off my left nut for this set. I'm so excited.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: GMC on Sun, 18 November 2012, 02:47:09
It is looking good...
But....

Why is there a 1.75 shift in the ISO kit?  There isn't one on a standard ISO board, you also should label the extra ISO keys next to return and leftshift

On the numpad, some will need to swap the 2.0 sized '0' with a '0' and a '00'
Some will also need to swap the 2.0 height '+' for a '+' with another key above it ('00'?) but others will need to clarify
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: TheSoulhunter on Sun, 18 November 2012, 04:15:46
Considering the color, why no radioactive symbol as alternate winkey?
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: nullstring on Sun, 18 November 2012, 04:46:48
Rather than radioactive, biohazard could make more sense.


Anyway, I wanted to point out that id rather the Fn key not be in the base set. Most keyboards don't have an Fn key, and so it seems one is forced to buy an extra key to fill the Menu position.

Edit: apparently maybe costar TKLs have a Fn key?
I just wonder if it would be better to have a third symbol that could double as Fn and menu..
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: rainbowshy on Sun, 18 November 2012, 07:44:29
On second thought, I suppose this wouldn't work for nordic layouts, even with the ISO add-on?
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: OrangeJewce on Sun, 18 November 2012, 08:34:19
Rather than radioactive, biohazard could make more sense.


Anyway, I wanted to point out that id rather the Fn key not be in the base set. Most keyboards don't have an Fn key, and so it seems one is forced to buy an extra key to fill the Menu position.

Edit: apparently maybe costar TKLs have a Fn key?
I just wonder if it would be better to have a third symbol that could double as Fn and menu..

Costar, and ducky boards have f'n key.

Cheers,
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: poopmat on Sun, 18 November 2012, 11:27:51
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__Y7Xh3LOr_U/SxQVZCX8dvI/AAAAAAAAAiE/J5lO3mL7xLc/s400/toxic-waste%5B1%5D.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: Shadovved on Sun, 18 November 2012, 11:32:57
Show Image
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__Y7Xh3LOr_U/SxQVZCX8dvI/AAAAAAAAAiE/J5lO3mL7xLc/s400/toxic-waste%5B1%5D.jpg)


"How many times do I have to tell you guys, eating this stuff (eridium) does NOT give you slag powers!"

-Dr Zed
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: SmallFry on Sun, 18 November 2012, 11:58:12
LOL!
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: Shadovved on Sun, 18 November 2012, 18:17:06
LOL!

Hahahaha sorry sorry, I just had to post that! It just popped into my mind LOL.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: Lycoth on Mon, 19 November 2012, 04:38:45
Definitely interested. Loving it.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: mithinza on Mon, 19 November 2012, 16:15:56
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/63153503/ToxicbaseKitFinal-01.png)

I LOVE THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 19 November 2012, 16:19:14
I still prefer the look with the toxic modifiers.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: danielucf on Mon, 19 November 2012, 16:38:57
I still prefer the look with the toxic modifiers.
Well you should be able to buy it, with only one modifier set I'm sure plenty of people will pick it up.

So where do we want the 1.75x shift keys? With the tsangan kit or with the ISO kit? I'm inclined to leave it with the tsangan and remove it from the ISO set, but then fewer iso sets may be purchased.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: OrangeJewce on Mon, 19 November 2012, 17:01:38
Honesty I don't really like the new beaker, if it didn't have the lip I think it would look just as good.

The mods are still going to be expensive, even if there is one additional set. But hey, you're the organizer, so you decide which is included in the base set. I would rather have off color mods in the base personally.

Cheers,
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: pasph on Mon, 19 November 2012, 17:08:14
Iso here and don't need a 1.75 shift
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: MMB on Mon, 19 November 2012, 17:09:21
Can you make this a Group Buy already? :P
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: Lorem-Ipsum on Mon, 19 November 2012, 17:23:08
Can you make this a Group Buy already? :P

I won't have the money till after Christmas. Take your time XD
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: Ragnar on Mon, 19 November 2012, 18:46:58
Can you make this a Group Buy already? :P

I won't have the money till after Christmas. Take your time XD

Me either. I'm okay with waiting until after Christmas.
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: Cobertt on Mon, 19 November 2012, 19:01:45
Can you make this a Group Buy already? :P

I won't have the money till after Christmas. Take your time XD

Me either. I'm okay with waiting until after Christmas.

Hence my idea with the dual run group buy.
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: danielucf on Mon, 19 November 2012, 20:16:52
Yeah its kind of a bummer that it is, I also think that doing two runs of this may be a good idea, lots of people really like the cream cheese and green and sets are going for close to 100$ I think that if it was done in two runs people who are on the fence can make a decision whether or not they like it so that they're not more group buys like the Red Alert 2.0 and look-a-likes because people were unsure of what they were getting. I think that two group buys over a 5-6 month period would be a good idea. This also helps get imperfections out early like the stepped caps mistake in CCnG. This is just my two cents though.
If we are able to use the Cherry legends those have been, and continue to be meticulously analyzed for accuracy in pursuit of perfection. If we end up having to use WYSE then those legends are pretty solid and we should not have any issues. Now that the stepped caps have been worked out that shouldn't be an issue. Pretty much the maturity through previous group buys will help ensure this goes without a hitch.

Also the vendor pack may be made available earlier than the main set so those on the fence can order and see what the "TOX" green color will be like in person before making the call on whether or not to jump on the main set. If non double shot vendors want to get on board with the vendor pack this may complicate things.

I'm also curious would people prefer Windows 8 logo for the windows keys, or the older style Windows keys?
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: Ragnorock on Mon, 19 November 2012, 20:18:49

Show Image
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-AAUFlyaDJmM/UKfah1EaFvI/AAAAAAAACgI/RbdfRB30c7E/s1000/toxic.png)


This is an interesting photoshop. Am I correct in assuming that you changed the hue on the whole image except for the Terran key? It looks like the Ragnarok set if that's that case. Other than that I'm not exactly sure how you got your hands on a green biohazard key. :P

By the way, I spoke to Daniel, Biohazard key is in this group buy!
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: poopmat on Mon, 19 November 2012, 20:35:26
lets do this ****

(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/23817807.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: danielucf on Mon, 19 November 2012, 20:38:53
Batmann worked his butt off to get out the most recent mock ups but they just need a few minor tweaks and I can calculate pricing and start the group buy. I *could* just calculate prices and use the current pictures and have text noting what changes will be made until the images are revised. I believe Batmann is about to go, or just left for a vacation and will not be able to update the mock ups for a bit.
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 19 November 2012, 20:52:11
Depending on how soon you want to collect money, that might be a good thing.  Sounds like a lot of people won't be in a position to pay until next year (I would prefer this too).
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: danielucf on Mon, 19 November 2012, 21:01:48
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. I don't intend to close the group buy (once it is open) until February or March. Money collection takes place right after the group buy is closed. Orders will be taken for 4-5 months just like the Sanctuary set.
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: NikoGasm on Mon, 19 November 2012, 21:28:16
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. I don't intend to close the group buy (once it is open) until February or March. Money collection takes place right after the group buy is closed. Orders will be taken for 4-5 months just like the Sanctuary set.

This pleases me. I was a little worried about missing out on this set. But now I am certain that I'll be able to pick myself up a full one.
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: alixinhzai on Mon, 19 November 2012, 21:36:38
oh, this mockup from valentine GB? I see a bug from right win key and "?" key not straight :) I fixed it :D

why we use tab, caplock, shift, enter and backspace like valentine GB? I don't like a arrow up on SP's shifft key T_T it's thin :|
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: nunobet on Mon, 19 November 2012, 21:39:39
How about the 'Command' or 'Cmd' key for Mac user?
in tsangan set or extra set...
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: Cobertt on Mon, 19 November 2012, 22:25:16
Yeah its kind of a bummer that it is, I also think that doing two runs of this may be a good idea, lots of people really like the cream cheese and green and sets are going for close to 100$ I think that if it was done in two runs people who are on the fence can make a decision whether or not they like it so that they're not more group buys like the Red Alert 2.0 and look-a-likes because people were unsure of what they were getting. I think that two group buys over a 5-6 month period would be a good idea. This also helps get imperfections out early like the stepped caps mistake in CCnG. This is just my two cents though.
If we are able to use the Cherry legends those have been, and continue to be meticulously analyzed for accuracy in pursuit of perfection. If we end up having to use WYSE then those legends are pretty solid and we should not have any issues. Now that the stepped caps have been worked out that shouldn't be an issue. Pretty much the maturity through previous group buys will help ensure this goes without a hitch.

Also the vendor pack may be made available earlier than the main set so those on the fence can order and see what the "TOX" green color will be like in person before making the call on whether or not to jump on the main set. If non double shot vendors want to get on board with the vendor pack this may complicate things.

I'm also curious would people prefer Windows 8 logo for the windows keys, or the older style Windows keys?

Fair enough, point well made. I also didn't think about if we had like 50 orders for the first run and 40 for the second, it would be better to get the 90 discount than the other two.
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: inlikeflynn on Mon, 19 November 2012, 22:33:56
I still prefer the look with the toxic modifiers.
Well you should be able to buy it, with only one modifier set I'm sure plenty of people will pick it up.

So where do we want the 1.75x shift keys? With the tsangan kit or with the ISO kit? I'm inclined to leave it with the tsangan and remove it from the ISO set, but then fewer iso sets may be purchased.

it belongs in the tsangan kit
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: OrangeJewce on Mon, 19 November 2012, 22:35:45
Batmann worked his butt off to get out the most recent mock ups but they just need a few minor tweaks and I can calculate pricing and start the group buy. I *could* just calculate prices and use the current pictures and have text noting what changes will be made until the images are revised. I believe Batmann is about to go, or just left for a vacation and will not be able to update the mock ups for a bit.

danielucf,

does this mean you aren't going to wait a couple of months for cherry legends? I really really want to have the option of something other than classic dolch when those suckers come out!

Cheers,
Title: Re: [IC]Charcoal and Lime "Toxic"
Post by: inlikeflynn on Mon, 19 November 2012, 22:36:27
Additionally the "+" key for the number pad might need a toxic colored 1x "+" also but I'm not sure how the keys line up with the main number row so maybe it isn't needed. inlikeflynn can let us know

that would probably be good too :)

In my head, here is how I think this should look on an 1800 (which was possible with CCnG set except for the 1x "+" where I just use a GH key instead)
profiles are of course wrong on Delete/End/PageDown/- and the non-existant + key, but that is ok by me. I'm just happy to have keys to go there :)

(http://i.imgur.com/8lZFR.png) (http://i.imgur.com/8lZFR.png)
 
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: leesofi on Mon, 19 November 2012, 23:44:08
i need 1.5mod(tsangsan )of toxic green color.. please add the toxic grreen ctrl, alt and shift.
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: danielucf on Tue, 20 November 2012, 00:37:17
danielucf,

does this mean you aren't going to wait a couple of months for cherry legends? I really really want to have the option of something other than classic dolch when those suckers come out!

Cheers,
I can start the group buy when ever. It is going to run for a long time and the main goal is to wait for Cherry legends. I'm still waiting for someone to come forward and update the time table, but last time that I can remember someone mentioned November or December cherry legends would be ready. I want this set to be cherry legends. If something crazy happened and it turned into August/September next year they will be ready then we may not wait until then.

i need 1.5mod(tsangsan )of toxic green color.. please add the toxic grreen ctrl, alt and shift.
It is in the original post that we will sell a tsangan to match the TOX modifiers, Batmann just hasn't made the mock ups for everything yet. Everything that will be sold is also mentioned in the original post. I noted in the thread title that the original post (OP) was updated today and every time it is updated in the future I will update the date until the group buy goes live.

We are getting close but I'm trying to do everything right in the interest check so it can be clear when the group buy goes live.
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 20 November 2012, 01:59:37
Is there any sort of vague estimate of how much this might cost?  Like around $50, or closer to $100?

At least then I can save up a little bit each month, and the wait will not seem as bad as I will be working towards the end goal :)
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: danielucf on Tue, 20 November 2012, 02:30:47
Is there any sort of vague estimate of how much this might cost?  Like around $50, or closer to $100?
Well the Sanctuary base set was around $58 before shipping and this should be only a bit more keys than that since it will have a full tsangan, although we could probably trim the tsangan keys down, and even ditch the two 1.25x windows keys. The numpad was around $27 in Sanctuary I think. Modifier set should be in the range of $23-27. Tox tsangan by itself probably $13-18 range.
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: mickd on Tue, 20 November 2012, 03:02:22
Keep in mind the Sanctuary set had a full set of custom legends, and a lot of orders to keep the base set down. These legend costs are probably what also kept the numpad cost (for example) high since less people generally order that.

Do you have any plans for some custom legends on some of the modifiers?
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: danielucf on Tue, 20 November 2012, 03:14:50
Keep in mind the Sanctuary set had a full set of custom legends, and a lot of orders to keep the base set down. These legend costs are probably what also kept the numpad cost (for example) high since less people generally order that.

Do you have any plans for some custom legends on some of the modifiers?
Yep the flask and bubbles that are shown in the mock ups.
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: mickd on Tue, 20 November 2012, 03:28:40
Sorry, should of been more specific! I mean't with the tab, caps lock, shift, backspace and stuff. Kind of like what the original korean RA set had. They look smexy!
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: danielucf on Tue, 20 November 2012, 03:43:44
Sorry, should of been more specific! I mean't with the tab, caps lock, shift, backspace and stuff. Kind of like what the original korean RA set had. They look smexy!
Going for cherry legends, unless people think they want tab, shift, backspace, etc as the 7bit legends with everything else cherry font.
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: alixinhzai on Tue, 20 November 2012, 10:07:15
wow, wait for cherry font :)

In this moockup I use GE on dark grey and VAT on Green

[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: 1391401 on Tue, 20 November 2012, 10:16:23
very cool! Would like a set depending on what the final color scheme is, I actually liked what was in OP
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: Mangeun Ethan Jang on Tue, 20 November 2012, 10:33:21
Fantastic!! Interestd!!
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: danielucf on Tue, 20 November 2012, 10:49:17
wow, wait for cherry font :)

In this moockup I use GE on dark grey and VAT on Green
Looks pretty nice with the Cherry legends, we are going to get a new shade of green made just for this set though, Pantone color 381 or 382 I believe (it is somewhere in the thread). I wish Batmann had the Cherry font file you used for making your mock up *wink wink nudge nudge*
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: NikoGasm on Tue, 20 November 2012, 10:55:01
Yeah I really like the green shown in the OP. I don't think there could be a more fitting color. It's also pretty exciting getting to have keys in a color never seen on a keyboard before.
Those Cherry fonts looks great though.
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: Shadovved on Tue, 20 November 2012, 10:58:56
That is pretty. Would love it very much!  :cool: :cool:
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: Chau on Tue, 20 November 2012, 11:06:16
I was thinking of picking up a set of RA for my 1st set of replacements...until I saw this set  :p But I believe the green should be as toxic a colour as possible.
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: leesofi on Tue, 20 November 2012, 13:20:20
it can be record GB. w0w~
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: OrangeJewce on Tue, 20 November 2012, 14:10:03
it can be record GB. w0w~

What do you mean, lee?

Cheers,
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: danielucf on Tue, 20 November 2012, 16:59:34
it can be record GB. w0w~

What do you mean, lee?

Cheers,

I think he means this set has caught a lot of peoples eye, and will probably sell in considerable numbers. If we get it on Korean forums, and deskthority in addition to here at geekhack I'm sure we can hit some nice numbers.
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: OrangeJewce on Tue, 20 November 2012, 17:28:19
it can be record GB. w0w~

What do you mean, lee?

Cheers,

I think he means this set has caught a lot of peoples eye, and will probably sell in considerable numbers. If we get it on Korean forums, and deskthority in addition to here at geekhack I'm sure we can hit some nice numbers.

Yeah that was my guess, but I was curious about the current record for orders. Would be great to have another really amazingly popular keyset brought  out by a GHer.

Cheers,
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: NikoGasm on Tue, 20 November 2012, 17:32:54
A the rate that this thing is going, by the time you're collecting payments it'll be pretty cheap.
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 20 November 2012, 18:07:28
That's the idea :)
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: leesofi on Wed, 21 November 2012, 00:57:00
it can be record GB. w0w~

What do you mean, lee?

Cheers,

I think he means this set has caught a lot of peoples eye, and will probably sell in considerable numbers. If we get it on Korean forums, and deskthority in addition to here at geekhack I'm sure we can hit some nice numbers.
Right ~! :)
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: alixinhzai on Wed, 21 November 2012, 02:41:09
Looks pretty nice with the Cherry legends, we are going to get a new shade of green made just for this set though, Pantone color 381 or 382 I believe (it is somewhere in the thread). I wish Batmann had the Cherry font file you used for making your mock up *wink wink nudge nudge*

This font is helvetica rounded, some difference between it and cherry font... "G" and "t" :D
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: tinyblob on Wed, 21 November 2012, 06:41:54
I'm a bit late to the party. I love these colours and would definitely be interested if a UK version were available. I can see myself moving to US layout soon, I'm so jealous of all these awesome caps.
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: danielucf on Wed, 21 November 2012, 09:58:37
I'm a bit late to the party. I love these colours and would definitely be interested if a UK version were available. I can see myself moving to US layout soon, I'm so jealous of all these awesome caps.
Wouldn't the ISO pack make the Toxic set UK compatible?
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: baldgye on Wed, 21 November 2012, 10:48:34
I'm a bit late to the party. I love these colours and would definitely be interested if a UK version were available. I can see myself moving to US layout soon, I'm so jealous of all these awesome caps.
Wouldn't the ISO pack make the Toxic set UK compatible?

yup
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: tmk1207 on Wed, 21 November 2012, 13:51:46
Hmm . I like it :p
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: HNix on Wed, 21 November 2012, 15:03:06
verry cool :-ss
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: snoopy on Wed, 21 November 2012, 15:05:53
Would be very interested in modifier set and iso addon set.
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: TDub on Thu, 22 November 2012, 03:14:36
The Mockups look awesome, if the final set is even half as awesome I am definitely in for a set :)
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: tinyblob on Thu, 22 November 2012, 06:00:26
I'm a bit late to the party. I love these colours and would definitely be interested if a UK version were available. I can see myself moving to US layout soon, I'm so jealous of all these awesome caps.
Wouldn't the ISO pack make the Toxic set UK compatible?

Hah! That image must not have loaded when I looked, brilliant! I'm interested then.
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: danielucf on Sun, 25 November 2012, 19:03:24
Will people actually buy just the modifier set without a base set? I ask because I was considering eliminating the toxic color keys from the modifier set that are already included with the base set like "~`", Backspace, Insert, Home, and PgUp. This would make the modifier set cheaper and those are not really keys that people need two of. Pretty much trying to trim down keys that are not needed, and also eliminate potential duplicates.
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: pasph on Sun, 25 November 2012, 21:33:03
I will
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: AKIMbO on Sun, 25 November 2012, 22:17:53
The fact that there will be biohazard and crossbones legends makes me tingly inside.
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: metalliqaz on Sun, 25 November 2012, 22:22:40
Looks more yellow than green...
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 25 November 2012, 22:42:47
It is a yellowy sort of green?
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: Ragnorock on Sun, 25 November 2012, 22:59:44
Btw the mold I had made for biohazard doesn't have the triangle/hole in the center of the biohazard logo. I agree that looks better though if it can be done- I think it should turn out alright. I'll foot the bill for a new one if you want to try that or we can just use mine for free like we discussed earlier. We would need to modify my .svg though.
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: i488 on Sun, 25 November 2012, 23:17:14
in for at least one set
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: Ragnar on Mon, 26 November 2012, 19:54:13
Will people actually buy just the modifier set without a base set? I ask because I was considering eliminating the toxic color keys from the modifier set that are already included with the base set like "~`", Backspace, Insert, Home, and PgUp. This would make the modifier set cheaper and those are not really keys that people need two of. Pretty much trying to trim down keys that are not needed, and also eliminate potential duplicates.

I will be picking up base + mods so I wouldn't need the duplicate toxic keys.
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: OrangeJewce on Mon, 26 November 2012, 20:28:09
Will people actually buy just the modifier set without a base set? I ask because I was considering eliminating the toxic color keys from the modifier set that are already included with the base set like "~`", Backspace, Insert, Home, and PgUp. This would make the modifier set cheaper and those are not really keys that people need two of. Pretty much trying to trim down keys that are not needed, and also eliminate potential duplicates.

I will be picking up base + mods so I wouldn't need the duplicate toxic keys.

I don't really see a purpose to only the mods set... so I say go for it!

in41+mods

Cheers,
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: danielucf on Mon, 26 November 2012, 21:04:58
I do think reducing the modifier set by 5 keys, one of which is the 2X backspace key, would bring down the modifier set price a noticeable amount. I also think that the few people that would want only the modifier set could probably pick up the 5 missing keys directly from Signature Plastics from the extras they normally have. I could be wrong on this and maybe extras isn't so bad. The other options are for the color stripe to be available separate with reduced keys and it would be required to match it with the modifier set to get the five keys, or the modifier set is where the extra 1 through = keys could go.
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: poopmat on Tue, 27 November 2012, 02:54:34
base plus mods here
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: Shadovved on Tue, 27 November 2012, 02:58:23
I think the base like the sanctuary GB will be sufficient, too many, you are adding cost to a majority of people who might not even use it forever :D
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: restless on Tue, 27 November 2012, 17:23:44
Late on this, but absolutely looking for base + mods here!
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: Kabuks on Wed, 28 November 2012, 18:29:14
These look great, can't wait till the GB starts.  :cool:
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: balanar on Wed, 28 November 2012, 20:22:49
In for base + mods!
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: Kruen on Thu, 29 November 2012, 02:25:17
Do you have any idea how well a backlight would show through the TOX colour?
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: Shadovved on Thu, 29 November 2012, 02:26:19
Waiting for the GB to start, so I can a set or 2  :cool: :cool:

Everytime I look at these..................... *something happens*  :p :p
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: danielucf on Thu, 29 November 2012, 02:40:58
Do you have any idea how well a backlight would show through the TOX colour?
No idea since it will be a brand new color we have no experience with. Probably similar to how yellow keys would be. With TOX as the legend it would show even less.
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: Kruen on Thu, 29 November 2012, 08:55:24
Ah, fair enough. I'll probably get it anyway since it's gorgeous :P
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: OrangeJewce on Thu, 29 November 2012, 09:13:42
Yeah...I will probably get a set even though i won't have enough keyboards to sport it :P

Cheers,
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 29 November 2012, 13:17:16
Do you have any idea how well a backlight would show through the TOX colour?

Probably not very well, with perhaps green and white LEDs showing best results.  Try with CCnG would probably give the closest results.
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: Batmann on Thu, 29 November 2012, 13:49:15
there is a very cool mod here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33155.msg721795#msg721795) to get a nice backlighting
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: Kruen on Sat, 01 December 2012, 00:14:00
I see, thanks :) I think I'll end up getting a set anyway because it's simply gorgeous

Put me down for a base set and toxic modifiers please :)
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: OrangeJewce on Sat, 01 December 2012, 11:53:11
so with the cherry font project on hold indefinitely....are we going to wait and see what comes through via the German Manuf.?

Cheers,
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: Shadovved on Sat, 01 December 2012, 12:27:54
I think we can be the first GB (tog with klaxon) to do it in the Cherry DS  :cool:
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: metalliqaz on Sat, 01 December 2012, 12:40:51
Don't get ahead of yourselves.
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: Batmann on Sat, 01 December 2012, 12:46:18
I think we can be the first GB (tog with klaxon) to do it in the Cherry DS  :cool:

If you mean with GMK, I'm not sure we can easily ask for custom keys knowing this would be our first run with them
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 01 December 2012, 12:55:04
Im in for a set looking good and i like the win8 caps
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: Batmann on Sat, 01 December 2012, 13:03:43
Im in for a set looking good and i like the win8 caps

Oups, not sure Daniel wants to keep them in the set :[
The OP should be updated soon (I'm almost done)
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 01 December 2012, 13:05:35
is there going to be a dark num row?
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: Batmann on Sat, 01 December 2012, 13:07:34
I think so yes, it will be included in the base kit
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: danielucf on Sat, 01 December 2012, 14:15:07
Im in for a set looking good and i like the win8 caps

is there going to be a dark num row?
I think so yes, it will be included in the base kit
This is correct, the base set will come with regular number row, and toxic number row.

Also concerning the Windows 8 keys I may make them available separate from the base kit. Not everyone likes them, and there are so many keys as part of the base kit I wanted to try and trim it down for cost saving purposes. The included, and a-la-carte "Tsangan" kits will be trimmed into a Winkeyless (1.5X modifiers) kit with a couple less keys, also intending to save people some money. Once the new mock ups are available everything should be clear.
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 01 December 2012, 14:16:19
ok sounds goo cant wait
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: metalliqaz on Sat, 01 December 2012, 14:19:26
I don't believe anyone has said that GMK will be anywhere near as friendly to groupbuys as SP is.
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: danielucf on Sat, 01 December 2012, 16:55:02
If anyone has contact information for GMK I can talk with them and see what they can do, or what they are willing to do.
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: metalliqaz on Sat, 01 December 2012, 19:03:05
We're supposed to go through Dan
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: mickd on Sun, 02 December 2012, 03:38:13
If anyone has contact information for GMK I can talk with them and see what they can do, or what they are willing to do.

Yeah, they've already said that they don't want people flooding them with requests and that as a community we should go through a single person, in which they chose Dan.
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 02 December 2012, 04:06:17
Maybe for the first order at least.  I'd hate to think Dan had to coordinate all future group buys.

Maybe once GH establishes our credentials with GMK, they will allow orders to be placed by several people.
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: Batmann on Sun, 02 December 2012, 04:07:50
I can't imagine all GB having to go through Dan!
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: danielucf on Sun, 02 December 2012, 10:34:06
If they are a smart company they will allow who ever wants to place orders to work with them. Dan doesn't represent GH, DT, KBMania, and other sources that I want to run this group buy in conjunction for so.....

It is looking like depending on what they are capable of then Cherry replica font through SP may be torpedoed?
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 02 December 2012, 13:11:11
It may end up that the larger group buys will go through GMK, whereas the smaller or less choosy ones stay with SP.

It sounds as if GMK usually cater for large industrial orders, somewhat above the usual group buy of a hundred or so sets.
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: phetto on Sun, 02 December 2012, 13:14:30
I will take 1 of everything.

When will the IC become a real GB?
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: hashbaz on Sun, 02 December 2012, 16:08:41
Seems like everything's in limbo until we figure out how viable GMK is.
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: iArson on Sun, 02 December 2012, 16:55:45
Really excited to get these on my filco :D
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 02 December 2012, 17:18:47
Seems like everything's in limbo until we figure out how viable GMK is.

+1

Also is it possible that GMK will have a green that is even more toxic than the one we selected?
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: phetto on Sun, 02 December 2012, 18:04:03
Why dont you guys just go with SP? They are nice, not even sure if GMK are producing these. I want a keyset that is made in less than 6 months :D
Title: Re: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: TheProfosist on Sun, 02 December 2012, 18:51:28
Why dont you guys just go with SP? They are nice, not even sure if GMK are producing these. I want a keyset that is made in less than 6 months :D
agreed and same.
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 02 December 2012, 18:59:28
Cherry font.

With SP it might or might not happen, with GMK they might be able to provide it right away.
Title: Re: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: TheProfosist on Sun, 02 December 2012, 19:29:56
Cherry font.

With SP it might or might not happen, with GMK they might be able to provide it right away.
will they even take any sort of order from us?
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 02 December 2012, 19:37:17
That's what we're waiting to find out.  If they will, and can provide Cherry font from the go, it might be a more practicable option than SP, who might not be able to provide Cherry font at all.

Perhaps it can be put to the vote.
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: metalliqaz on Mon, 03 December 2012, 09:37:01
Does this one have to be Cherry font?  I like Wyse.
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: phetto on Mon, 03 December 2012, 09:40:16
Fastest way possible please. xD
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: TheProfosist on Mon, 03 December 2012, 10:14:09
Fastest way possible please. xD
agreed
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: danielucf on Mon, 03 December 2012, 14:05:18
Fastest way possible please. xD
agreed
Well really even the fastest way possible isn't going to be that fast because I want to leave it open for awhile to hit some big numbers.
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: Binge on Mon, 03 December 2012, 15:23:01
Loving this idea.  Consider my interest piqued.
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 03 December 2012, 15:31:36
A few of us would prefer this to proceed next year due to funding issues.
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: danielucf on Mon, 03 December 2012, 16:30:22
I've said it a coupe times but the idea is to start the group buy ASAP and let it run until probably sometime in March.
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: Cobertt on Mon, 03 December 2012, 18:47:42
I've said it a coupe times but the idea is to start the group buy ASAP and let it run until probably sometime in March.

Happy 1000 post dude!
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 03 December 2012, 19:16:42
I've said it a coupe times but the idea is to start the group buy ASAP and let it run until probably sometime in March.

Happy 1000 post dude!

+1 shoulda posted here: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37647.0
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 11/19]
Post by: SmallFry on Mon, 03 December 2012, 19:18:10
Agreed! Delete something unimportant!
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 12/08]
Post by: danielucf on Sat, 08 December 2012, 14:26:06
Alright what I think are the final mock ups have been updated in the original post. We may do a version with Cherry font for comparison but that isn't really a priority right now since we are still waiting to see if we will use WYSE, Cherry replica, or Cherry from GMK.

We will add at least one more pack to include the vendor set of keys which at the moment I think will include keypop.net (http://www.keypop.net/) crossbones legend (possibly in both color combos), techkeys.us (http://www.techkeys.us/) center stemmed stepped caps lock (also in both color combos hopefully), and ZOMG Keycaps! (http://geekhack.org/index.php?board=134.0) bio-hazard legend, but I need people to chime in on if they want just 1x size, or 1.25x modifiers as well. It also isn't too late for other vendors to participate in this set either.

Another set I was thinking about including was traditional and windows 8 keys of 1.25x and 1x sizes, and also possibly traditional menu key and/or "Fn" key.

Just a note about the changes I dropped some of the keys from the original base set to save on costs, and to make the Toxic set a little different. I also felt that the "tsangan" kit contained a considerable amount of extra keys so I essentially had it changed into the "winkeyless 1.5x modifier set" with KBT Pure compatibility also through the "~`" key and 1.75x short shift.

One last idea I wanted to throw out pertaining to when the group buy actually starts: I don't want to make money off the group buy, but Batmann has put in a lot of work making the mock ups, and I will eventually put in a lot of work sorting, packing, and shipping. Would people be upset if I built in the cost of two sets, one for Batmann and myself, as kind of a compensation for our time and effort? I just want to be up front and honest to ask and get everyone's opinions.
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 12/08]
Post by: pasph on Sat, 08 December 2012, 14:46:12
One last idea I wanted to throw out pertaining to when the group buy actually starts: I don't want to make money off the group buy, but Batmann has put in a lot of work making the mock ups, and I will eventually put in a lot of work sorting, packing, and shipping. Would people be upset if I built in the cost of two sets, one for Batmann and myself, as kind of a compensation for our time and effort? I just want to be up front and honest to ask and get everyone's opinions.

You have to do it!
It's really nothing in comparison to all the effort you put in this for us!

Are you going to put even spacebars as extras?
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 12/08]
Post by: danielucf on Sat, 08 December 2012, 14:53:14
Oh yea good point, I removed some of the text from the original post, there will also be extra 6.2x and 7x spacebars available in both colors.
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 12/08]
Post by: razorsharpgears on Sat, 08 December 2012, 15:13:34
Amazing. I want this set so much XD
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 12/08]
Post by: esoomenona on Sat, 08 December 2012, 15:19:10
What kind of additional cost were you thinking?
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 12/08]
Post by: BimboBB on Sat, 08 December 2012, 15:20:33
One last idea I wanted to throw out pertaining to when the group buy actually starts: I don't want to make money off the group buy, but Batmann has put in a lot of work making the mock ups, and I will eventually put in a lot of work sorting, packing, and shipping. Would people be upset if I built in the cost of two sets, one for Batmann and myself, as kind of a compensation for our time and effort? I just want to be up front and honest to ask and get everyone's opinions.

I always thought thats the reason someone doing a groupbuy.  :)

Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 12/08]
Post by: Reptile on Sat, 08 December 2012, 15:43:12
(http://cdn.overclock.net/0/0d/900x900px-LL-0d4f579a_aTXtR.jpeg)
(http://cdn.overclock.net/5/54/900x900px-LL-54553a7b_DSC01531.jpeg)

I wouldn't mind another set like this :-)
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 12/08]
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 08 December 2012, 16:20:29
One last idea I wanted to throw out pertaining to when the group buy actually starts: I don't want to make money off the group buy, but Batmann has put in a lot of work making the mock ups, and I will eventually put in a lot of work sorting, packing, and shipping. Would people be upset if I built in the cost of two sets, one for Batmann and myself, as kind of a compensation for our time and effort? I just want to be up front and honest to ask and get everyone's opinions.

Fine by me.  There is a huge amount of time and effort goes into group buys - this seems only fair.

Show Image
(http://cdn.overclock.net/5/54/900x900px-LL-54553a7b_DSC01531.jpeg)


I wouldn't mind another set like this :-)

Topre have all the best colours, especially the yellow.
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 12/08]
Post by: NikoGasm on Sat, 08 December 2012, 17:04:16
One last idea I wanted to throw out pertaining to when the group buy actually starts: I don't want to make money off the group buy, but Batmann has put in a lot of work making the mock ups, and I will eventually put in a lot of work sorting, packing, and shipping. Would people be upset if I built in the cost of two sets, one for Batmann and myself, as kind of a compensation for our time and effort? I just want to be up front and honest to ask and get everyone's opinions.

I think this should just go without saying. If someone runs a group buy they deserve to have theirs covered by all of us. It'll such a minor additional charge for us anyways, not like we'd ever even notice.
Title: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 12/08]
Post by: phetto on Sun, 09 December 2012, 00:01:42
I was thinking, since this gb gonna be up for a while, make another set and put it in the gb at the same time?
Grey and purple?
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 12/08]
Post by: Sai on Sun, 09 December 2012, 07:07:11
Interested. ~_~
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 12/08]
Post by: Cobertt on Sun, 09 December 2012, 10:54:24
Maybe someone could talk to mistakemistake and see if we can get an official toxic cable made for this kid. I think that if we were to order a large amount of cables that he could give us a little discount. This would just help those who want a 100% complete set with a matching cable. Just a thought though.
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 12/08]
Post by: nereme on Mon, 10 December 2012, 14:56:44
I honestly cant wait for this :) Will cost me loads tho as i need a numpad, ISO kit, The Toxic mod keys and the non toxic stripe layout for the start haha
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 12/08]
Post by: hashbaz on Mon, 10 December 2012, 15:03:10
A matching cable would be wicked.
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 12/08]
Post by: YMSNoms on Mon, 10 December 2012, 15:13:07
Interested.
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 12/08]
Post by: boost on Mon, 10 December 2012, 15:17:38
Make this a GB already..lol
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 12/08]
Post by: danielucf on Mon, 10 December 2012, 17:43:22
Make this a GB already..lol
I need a pink or toxic green robogeek :p
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 12/08]
Post by: KuhnTang on Tue, 11 December 2012, 00:28:52
Judging by the pages of replies to this "interest thread", I would assume that there is more than enough people that are going to swoop these up.  Lets get this thing going, I'm eager to get a new set, and if it's not obvious, yes, I'm interested.

Gimme!
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 12/08]
Post by: jeroplane on Tue, 11 December 2012, 01:47:15
Maybe someone could talk to mistakemistake and see if we can get an official toxic cable made for this kid. I think that if we were to order a large amount of cables that he could give us a little discount. This would just help those who want a 100% complete set with a matching cable. Just a thought though.

His new "Hyper Pistachio" TechKeys paracord cable looks perfect for the job:

(http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/zz112/georgeap2/IMG_0017.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 12/08]
Post by: Batmann on Tue, 11 December 2012, 01:57:39
nice cable but it would probably cost half the price of a base set o.O
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 12/08]
Post by: OrangeJewce on Tue, 11 December 2012, 08:53:24
Judging by the pages of replies to this "interest thread", I would assume that there is more than enough people that are going to swoop these up.  Lets get this thing going, I'm eager to get a new set, and if it's not obvious, yes, I'm interested.

Gimme!

I want to wait for the cherry font project to complete, just in case we want to do it through SP. It sounds like The project is going to go ahead and move forward. At least, that's what my takeaway from Hash's last post in the thread was.

Cheers,
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 12/08]
Post by: i3oilermaker on Tue, 11 December 2012, 10:35:04
His new "Hyper Pistachio" TechKeys paracord cable looks perfect for the job:
Show Image
(http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/zz112/georgeap2/IMG_0017.jpg)


There is only 1 left in stock!
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 12/08]
Post by: danielucf on Tue, 11 December 2012, 10:42:58
I ordered one yesterday :D
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 12/08]
Post by: KuhnTang on Tue, 11 December 2012, 23:12:24
When are you planning on putting in the order and how do I sign up?
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 12/08]
Post by: metalliqaz on Tue, 11 December 2012, 23:13:19
Lemon lime would also go nicely, and I happen to have just picked one up :)
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 12/08]
Post by: Oproer on Wed, 12 December 2012, 07:32:31
I'm very interested in a toxic base set and the toxic modifiers.
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 12/08]
Post by: danielucf on Wed, 12 December 2012, 19:35:58
Phew! Group buy created, and now awaiting approval. Direct all talk about this set into the group buy thread once it becomes available.
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 12/08]
Post by: ezio041188 on Thu, 17 January 2013, 22:16:29
interested !
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 12/08]
Post by: JPG on Thu, 17 January 2013, 22:17:54
The GB is going on, go find it instead of the intest check  :p
Title: Re: [IC]The Toxic set [OP updated 12/08]
Post by: oluf on Thu, 17 January 2013, 22:19:01
interested !

There's still time!! =)

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38241.0