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Title: [eBay]Backlight 356N TKL Korean Board, Blank Keycaps, PS2
Post by: ZcHuer on Tue, 13 November 2012, 04:00:40
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Cherry-Custom-Backlight-Keyboard-356N-Blank-Keycaps-87Keys-PS2-/281022148194?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item416e39ae62

I believe I've once seen this board in KBDMainia.
The price is a bit surprising to me :eek:
Title: Re: [eBay]Backlight 356N TKL Korean Board, Blank Keycaps, PS2
Post by: tsangan on Tue, 13 November 2012, 04:06:30
It was priced very high on kbdmania so no one purchased it

That price is even higher then the price listed there ._.
Title: Re: [eBay]Backlight 356N TKL Korean Board, Blank Keycaps, PS2
Post by: nntnam on Tue, 13 November 2012, 04:53:15
Same seller, I guess.
Title: Re: [eBay]Backlight 356N TKL Korean Board, Blank Keycaps, PS2
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 13 November 2012, 05:25:54
That price is even higher then the price listed there ._.

To offset ebay, paypal, and international shipping fees.
Title: Re: [eBay]Backlight 356N TKL Korean Board, Blank Keycaps, PS2
Post by: tsangan on Tue, 13 November 2012, 05:48:34
With all those considered its still a lot higher then what it was before, good try though
Title: Re: [eBay]Backlight 356N TKL Korean Board, Blank Keycaps, PS2
Post by: boost on Tue, 13 November 2012, 06:07:23
Nice board, but that price
Title: Re: [eBay]Backlight 356N TKL Korean Board, Blank Keycaps, PS2
Post by: MissMurd3r84 on Tue, 13 November 2012, 06:09:59
Just sell 4 clacks and you can buy it ;)

But seriously, seen some keyboards that I personally think look nicer on these forums lately.
Title: Re: [eBay]Backlight 356N TKL Korean Board, Blank Keycaps, PS2
Post by: dirge on Tue, 13 November 2012, 06:43:17
That's very tempting.
Title: Re: [eBay]Backlight 356N TKL Korean Board, Blank Keycaps, PS2
Post by: noisyturtle on Tue, 13 November 2012, 18:22:55
Why is this $700?
Title: Re: [eBay]Backlight 356N TKL Korean Board, Blank Keycaps, PS2
Post by: tjcaustin on Tue, 13 November 2012, 18:32:07
The green stems with blue springs is tripping me out a bit, but gotdamn that price...
I would argue against this being any type of "great" find, tbh.
Title: [eBay]Backlight 356N TKL Korean Board, Blank Keycaps, PS2
Post by: phetto on Tue, 13 November 2012, 18:35:19
Pricey ^_^
Title: Re: [eBay]Backlight 356N TKL Korean Board, Blank Keycaps, PS2
Post by: FoxWolf1 on Tue, 13 November 2012, 19:33:47
Very, very expensive...

I guess the objective is to sell it to someone who has money and wants a Korean custom but doesn't have any way of buying one under normal circumstances.
Title: Re: [eBay]Backlight 356N TKL Korean Board, Blank Keycaps, PS2
Post by: guilleguillaume on Tue, 13 November 2012, 20:35:18
Quote from: sixty
Since a bunch of people always ask "omg what is that keyboard???" every few weeks, whenever someone links a picture from OTD, I figured it would be nice to write a summary about all the Korean custom keyboards released within the past few years. This first summary will take a look at the 356 series, not the first or oldest custom keyboard series, but most likely the most popular one.

Many thanks to the admins of OTD for granting me permission to publish this information to the western community. Also thanks to soulbane for helping me to fill in empty gaps of information and translating the stuff I did not understand!

Now with further ado, here is the summary.
[...]

The 356 Custom Keyboard Series


The 356 custom keyboards are a series of fully "community-developed" Cherry MX keyboards made by members of the Korean keyboard community OTD. The development started with the 356L in 2008.

Core Features across all models:
* Tenkeyless design
* Full aluminium case (CNC carved)
* Features and construction usually adjusted and tuned for the optimal feeling of a certain type of keyswitch
* Distributed as kit containing of the housing, the switch backplate as well as the PCB and sometimes some additional parts.
* PS/2 Interface (With the exception of the 356L, which is USB)
* Usually available with and without steel plate, partial steel plate or partial acyrlic plate


The Second: 356N (Non-Click)
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/k9qNY.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/5WYvx.jpg)

Pictures courtesy of  이동진 (http://www.otd.kr/bbs/board.php?bo_table=album&wr_id=9873&sca=&sfl=wr_subject&stx=356N&page=2)

Release: 2008
Optmized for: Tactile Non-Clicky switches
Color: Silver and Chrome
Winkeys: Yes
N-Key: No
Controller: Holtek IS628A
Units Made: 40

The second in the series, the 356N was developed to be used with non-click switches (Cherry MX Clear, Cherry MX Brown). As a result, the red-colored PCB is thinner and more flexible than on the 356L. There was no steel plate for the 356N and it was only available with a light aluminium plate or a partial acyrillic plate. The keyboard is most common in the silver version, with a few variants in a polished chrome look. The entire run was limited to 40 pieces. The 356N uses a custom controller based on the Holtek IS628.

[...]

I think the premium price may be related to fact that it was a limited run of 40 keyboards. Also this is a custom 356N modified with MX Green Switches and Leds all over the keyboard with custom keys to show the light.

Title: Re: [eBay]Backlight 356N TKL Korean Board, Blank Keycaps, PS2
Post by: tsangan on Tue, 13 November 2012, 20:51:11
Still overpriced
Title: Re: [eBay]Backlight 356N TKL Korean Board, Blank Keycaps, PS2
Post by: boost on Tue, 13 November 2012, 21:04:02
It's also has full LED which was manually wired.
Title: Re: [eBay]Backlight 356N TKL Korean Board, Blank Keycaps, PS2
Post by: tsangan on Tue, 13 November 2012, 21:05:56
But I will say a 356 is a very nice board :)
Title: Re: [eBay]Backlight 356N TKL Korean Board, Blank Keycaps, PS2
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 13 November 2012, 21:07:54
^It's just no 356CL, huh?
Title: Re: [eBay]Backlight 356N TKL Korean Board, Blank Keycaps, PS2
Post by: alaricljs on Tue, 13 November 2012, 21:09:58
Yeah, green switches that are actually blue... wth?
Title: Re: [eBay]Backlight 356N TKL Korean Board, Blank Keycaps, PS2
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 13 November 2012, 21:12:33
Yeah, green switches that are actually blue... wth?
They're green!
Title: Re: [eBay]Backlight 356N TKL Korean Board, Blank Keycaps, PS2
Post by: boost on Tue, 13 November 2012, 21:13:04
Yeah, green switches that are actually blue... wth?

Green stem for showing off :)
Title: Re: [eBay]Backlight 356N TKL Korean Board, Blank Keycaps, PS2
Post by: tsangan on Tue, 13 November 2012, 21:13:58
^It's just no 356CL, huh?
356CL is considered the best 356 made along with the 356mini

People try to trade 456GT for the 356CL

Also 356N MK2 is much superior compare to the 356N due to controller and PCB
Title: Re: [eBay]Backlight 356N TKL Korean Board, Blank Keycaps, PS2
Post by: DanGWanG on Tue, 13 November 2012, 22:36:51
I heard this case was also 3rd party manufactured, and not original.  But that's only what I heard...
Title: Re: [eBay]Backlight 356N TKL Korean Board, Blank Keycaps, PS2
Post by: sth on Tue, 13 November 2012, 22:52:13
so this could easily be another board in a fancy case for all we know?
Title: Re: [eBay]Backlight 356N TKL Korean Board, Blank Keycaps, PS2
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 13 November 2012, 23:13:09
I guess? I still find lost of the fun with these boards being. Beilding them.
Title: Re: [eBay]Backlight 356N TKL Korean Board, Blank Keycaps, PS2
Post by: AKIMbO on Wed, 14 November 2012, 07:10:52
$700 hot damn...I'd rather make a car payment or 3.
Title: Re: [eBay]Backlight 356N TKL Korean Board, Blank Keycaps, PS2
Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 14 November 2012, 07:54:44
haha, dat price = no.
Title: Re: [eBay]Backlight 356N TKL Korean Board, Blank Keycaps, PS2
Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 14 November 2012, 09:52:40
You guys spend $500 on one keycap and now you can't spend $700 on a full keyboard that has keycaps!? OMGWTFBBQ... /s
Title: Re: [eBay]Backlight 356N TKL Korean Board, Blank Keycaps, PS2
Post by: MMB on Wed, 14 November 2012, 09:58:01
There's only one person I know that spends $500 on a keycap.
Title: Re: [eBay]Backlight 356N TKL Korean Board, Blank Keycaps, PS2
Post by: DanGWanG on Wed, 14 November 2012, 10:04:11
Yeah im surprised he hasnt bought this yet
Title: Re: [eBay]Backlight 356N TKL Korean Board, Blank Keycaps, PS2
Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 14 November 2012, 10:22:09
I can't really talk... I wasn't that far off.

(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/003/617/okayguy.jpg)
Title: Re: [eBay]Backlight 356N TKL Korean Board, Blank Keycaps, PS2
Post by: sth on Wed, 14 November 2012, 12:49:59
esoomenona your sig cracks me up every time i see it.
Title: Re: [eBay]Backlight 356N TKL Korean Board, Blank Keycaps, PS2
Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 14 November 2012, 13:24:59
^_^
Title: Re: [eBay]Backlight 356N TKL Korean Board, Blank Keycaps, PS2
Post by: SmallFry on Wed, 14 November 2012, 14:05:54
Yes, that is a f***ing Julysicle! ;)
Title: Re: [eBay]Backlight 356N TKL Korean Board, Blank Keycaps, PS2
Post by: phetto on Wed, 14 November 2012, 14:08:20
SMALLFRY WHAT THE **** ARE YOU DOING HERE GO AND ASSEMBLE YOUR KMAC!!! :D
Title: Re: [eBay]Backlight 356N TKL Korean Board, Blank Keycaps, PS2
Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 14 November 2012, 14:11:53
Yes, that is a f***ing Julysicle! ;)
I had to drop that for two reasons: tjcaustin actually got ahold of one, and you're only allowed one picture in your sig, so I obviously had to choose this one.
Title: Re: Re: [eBay]Backlight 356N TKL Korean Board, Blank Keycaps, PS2
Post by: SmallFry on Wed, 14 November 2012, 15:02:47
SMALLFRY WHAT THE **** ARE YOU DOING HERE GO AND ASSEMBLE YOUR KMAC!!! :D
I was...:P
Recreational trolling too...:D
Title: Re: [eBay]Backlight 356N TKL Korean Board, Blank Keycaps, PS2
Post by: tjcaustin on Wed, 14 November 2012, 19:46:13
Aw, I missed something funny?  Oh well.
Title: Re: [eBay]Backlight 356N TKL Korean Board, Blank Keycaps, PS2
Post by: TheQsanity on Fri, 16 November 2012, 00:36:41
How much is it to make something like that? cant be anywhere near that much.
Title: Re: [eBay]Backlight 356N TKL Korean Board, Blank Keycaps, PS2
Post by: MMB on Fri, 16 November 2012, 01:29:37
How much is it to make something like that? cant be anywhere near that much.

How much is it to make most anything? That is irrelevant. What is relevant, is that this is a rare keyboard. You can't obtain it by any reasonable means. Therefore, value shoots through the roof.
Title: Re: [eBay]Backlight 356N TKL Korean Board, Blank Keycaps, PS2
Post by: Batmann on Fri, 16 November 2012, 01:48:24
come on guys, don't be shy, shipping is free!
Title: Re: [eBay]Backlight 356N TKL Korean Board, Blank Keycaps, PS2
Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 16 November 2012, 08:03:31
Free shipping?!?!?! Yezzzzzzzzzzzz!
Title: Re: [eBay]Backlight 356N TKL Korean Board, Blank Keycaps, PS2
Post by: i488 on Fri, 16 November 2012, 10:58:01
have to sell both kidneys for this
Title: Re: [eBay]Backlight 356N TKL Korean Board, Blank Keycaps, PS2
Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 16 November 2012, 11:32:56
Good thing you don't have to offer your liver for shipping!
Title: Re: [eBay]Backlight 356N TKL Korean Board, Blank Keycaps, PS2
Post by: feng on Sun, 18 November 2012, 03:45:43
Wonder if 356CL is worth much more than 356N. I've heard that 356CL can easily hit $1000. @_@
Title: Re: [eBay]Backlight 356N TKL Korean Board, Blank Keycaps, PS2
Post by: tsangan on Sun, 18 November 2012, 03:50:53
356CL is a much better/more desirable board then the 356N

The 356N successor the 356N MKII is a much superior board

The 356CL is considered to be the best board by some unless you prefer tactile switches then you're looking at the 356N or 356N MKII

Rarely do they go on sale, most of the time it's trades or bulk sale as in purchase a huge premade package including the 356CL and a bunch of other crap but you're likely buying it just for the one board