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geekhack Marketplace => Group Buys and Preorders => Topic started by: samwisekoi on Wed, 05 December 2012, 18:23:54
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Do you have a keyboard without keys to adjust volume, start and stop videos, really do anything except type letters?
Or do you have Media Keys -- but they are ugly or don't match your lovely Cherry-profile keycaps?
Now you can have the best of both worlds!
(http://www.samwisekoi.com/images/Media7-White-on-Black.jpg)
Announcing a Group Buy for a custom-designed 7-keycap Media Key set. To be available in various colors to match the discriminating person's color palette, these keys include:
Play/Pause
Stop
Rewind
Fast Forward
plus
Mute
Volume Down
Volume Up
(http://www.samwisekoi.com/images/Media7-Black-on-White.jpg)
They will be double-shot in Escape/Function Row Cherry (DCS) Profile. They may also be available in J and K-series in-fill.
These keys will be available in the following popular colors:
Quantities ordered as of 27-Jan-2013 09:00 PST:
A) Black Keys with Bright White legends = 5
B) Bright White keys with Black legends = 1
C) Bright White keys with Red legends = 4
D) Red Keys with Bright White legends = 5
E) Gray keys with Orange legends = 18
C and D will match Klaxon keycaps.
Depending on demand, prices will be a-okay as well!
25 Sets = $25
30 Sets = $20
40 Sets = $15
NOTE: Pricing is based on individual color combinations. Number of combinations hitting MOQ will affect pricing. Shipping and PayPal fees not included. CO2 is bad for the atmosphere. Music makes people happier. Ownership of an MX mechanical keyboard not required but will improve usability. YMMV.
(http://www.samwisekoi.com/images/Media7-Red-on-White.jpg)
So order early and often! Fancy Google form is here:
>>>>> http://goo.gl/qkhwS <<<<<
All proceeds beyond costs will go to the geekhack.org hardware fund!
Thanks for looking!
- Ron | samwisekoi
Additional images as requested:
(http://www.samwisekoi.com/images/Media7-Orange-on-Gray.jpg)
Representative image only.
(http://www.samwisekoi.com/images/Volume3-White-on-Red.jpg)
I only had the 3 volume keys made up in this color scheme. Actual set will have all 7 Media keycaps.
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Reserved for later.
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Nice looking keys Mr. Koi :) I'm pretty confident that these will get down to a lower price tier.
EDIT: Where are these shipping from? Should the address include a country?
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Nice looking keys Mr. Koi :) I'm pretty confident that these will get down to a lower price tier.
EDIT: Where are these shipping from? Should the address include a country?
Thanks very much!
These will be shipping from California, so include as much information as needed for the USPS and its worldwide affiliates to find your mailbox! Often they are indeed picky about such things as the difference between Paris, Texas and Paris, France, so yes, please include a country!
- Ron | samwisekoi
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Do you have pictures of the other two set colors?
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Cool, I did a set of white on black.
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Interested in a couple orange on grey sets, do you have a date set when you are going to close orders?
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How do you cancel this? I accidentallly pressed red on white, but wanted orange on grey instead.
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Do you have pictures of the other two set colors?
I had prototypes made in the first four colors, so I also have a picture on white on red. I did not get prototypes of orange on gray, so I don't have a picture of that.
I'll post more pictures or links to pictures today.
Interested in a couple orange on grey sets, do you have a date set when you are going to close orders?
I want to close orders on Jan 01, 2013.
How do you cancel this? I accidentally pressed red on white, but wanted orange on grey instead.
I have changed your order to Orange on Grey.
Thanks to all!
- Ron | samwisekoi
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Or do you have Media Keys -- but they are ugly or don't match your lovely Cherry-profile keycaps?
I though GMK wouldn't take orders or give quotes so soon?
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He does specify further down that it's DCS profile so obviously SP caps.
Time for a refresher course on profiles and where to get them? ;)
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He does specify further down that it's DCS profile so obviously SP caps.
Shame on me, I skimmed the text for SP and didn't notice where it said DCS.
E) Gray keys with Orange legends
Is the gray you speak of what some people around here call charcoal?
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Something to go very well with this key:
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- Ron | samwisekoi
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Any plans to side etched infill for legends of F1-F12 etc?
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Any plans to side etched infill for legends of F1-F12 etc?
That was down-voted in the IC phase. However I did prepare legends for that very purpose, but did not have prototypes made.
I would very much like to keep the GB phase constrained so we hit MOQ. After that we will have molds and designs and (hopefully) more than one supplier.
But for now, just the popular options.
- Ron | samwisekoi
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Filled the form for 2.
Can you put the totals of each set in the OP? Hopefully as numbers get higher, more will join in.
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Filled the form for 2.
Can you put the totals of each set in the OP? Hopefully as numbers get higher, more will join in.
I will indeed. Thanks for participating!
- Ron | samwisekoi
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Filled the form for 2.
Can you put the totals of each set in the OP? Hopefully as numbers get higher, more will join in.
I will indeed. Thanks for participating!
- Ron | samwisekoi
Thanks Ron!
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I dunno why but I thought these were from QWERkeys...
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I dunno why but I thought these were from QWERkeys...
It was the J and K series pictures, perhaps?
Yes, the first round were indeed made beautifully by QWERKeys. Future editions, including the all-important Miami Dolphins Edition may also be available there as well. This round is about an MOQ for double-shot legends and getting a stock of popular colors in place. Long-term availability planning is underway, and will be announced after this round is complete.
- Ron | samwisekoi
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i put an order in for one set. when do we actually need to pay?
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the grey set looks awesome, totally in for a set ^^
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i put an order in for one set. when do we actually need to pay?
New Years Day +/-
the grey set looks awesome, totally in for a set ^^
Thanks! That combo is #1 on the leader board.
- Ron | samwisekoi
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And if we don't hit MOQ?
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And if we don't hit MOQ?
I have backup plans. But let's hit MOQ so we can have double-shot legends cut!
- Ron | samwisekoi
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Form filled!
I really hope the orange on gray keys match well with my Skidata keys.
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Orange on charcoal looking good.
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In for a set of Orange/Charcoal
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Still considering....tight as of now.
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Moar orange/charcoal peeps!
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Those look great!
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I want these
A) Black Keys with Bright White legends
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Is it possible to get play/stop/back/forward with white on red, and the others red on white?
How closely will they match the Klaxon (RA 2 clone)?
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Is it possible to get play/stop/back/forward with white on red, and the others red on white?
How closely will they match the Klaxon (RA 2 clone)?
Hmmm. It is possible if both color combinations reach MOQ. Order at least one, then if it becomes possible, we can switch some of the keys when the actual purchase is made.
Regardless, any Red or White colors used will exactly match Klaxon (assuming Klaxon is done by SP.)
- Ron | samwisekoi
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Is it possible to get play/stop/back/forward with white on red, and the others red on white?
How closely will they match the Klaxon (RA 2 clone)?
Hmmm. It is possible if both color combinations reach MOQ. Order at least one, then if it becomes possible, we can switch some of the keys when the actual purchase is made.
Regardless, any Red or White colors used will exactly match Klaxon (assuming Klaxon is done by SP.
- Ron | samwisekoi
Awesome! Submitted.
What's the updated MOQ?
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Might we consider black keys with red legends?
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Might we consider black keys with red legends?
I could get black keys made, but they will be blank, and unsuitable for post-production legending. 1x relegendable keycaps are an option, and mostly in stock.
- Ron | samwisekoi
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^I'm not sure I follow. Is that essentially a no?
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Sorry,
I was answering as if I was in another thread.
Sure, Red on Black would look sharp. It didn't track well in the early IC, but there is no cost to add it to the Google doc, so YES!
Added to Google Form: http://goo.gl/qkhwS
- Ron | samwisekoi
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Sweet! Thanks a lot.
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I was going to order some red on white in addition to what I ordered before. However, your form defaults to "1" for red on black too... can't seem to unselect it and there's no zero option. Hmm...
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I was going to order some red on white in addition to what I ordered before. However, your form defaults to "1" for red on black too... can't seem to unselect it and there's no zero option. Hmm...
That was weird and unintentional. And now it is fixed as well.
Thanks for pointing this out!
- Ron | samwisekoi
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its nice to have red&white for klaxon,
have u ever think of making sets for ccng, valentine set, Sanctuary Keyset, toxic set?
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its nice to have red&white for klaxon,
have u ever think of making sets for ccng, valentine set, Sanctuary Keyset, toxic set?
If we get enough orders to cover mold costs with this group buy, then all colors and future group buys can include these keys.
But first we need to get enough orders to cover THIS buy.
- Ron | samwisekoi
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Hoping for it to hit a 40 or more orders and will drop in for one or 2. Patience will do the job
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Moar orange/charcoal peeps!
Ordered that very combo. Can't wait.
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I have been interested in this for a while, but each time I look at them again, I realize how huge the legends are. My fear is that they will dominate every layout. I wonder if there are more like me who agree. I would be more interested in them if they were smaller, or perhaps weren't solid but with for instance only the edges of the symbols highlighted.
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I actually thought that too
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guess I kinda have to agree on the legend sizes being a bit on the large side
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guess I kinda have to agree on the legend sizes being a bit on the large side
I actually thought that too
I have been interested in this for a while, but each time I look at them again, I realize how huge the legends are. My fear is that they will dominate every layout. I wonder if there are more like me who agree. I would be more interested in them if they were smaller, or perhaps weren't solid but with for instance only the edges of the symbols highlighted.
The prototypes were made with etch-and-fill legends. The production versions will be made via double-shot with a smaller printable area. And in the initial Interest Check thread I proposed a variety of sizes, including legends approximately the same height as a capital "H" on the main keycaps. IBM made the legends full-width, but aligned them to the top 50% of the printable area.
All of that is to say that once we get enough interest to actually do this, we will make the legends the size that the initial group of buyers want them to be.
So people who sign up for this first batch will get to vote on the final layout before the molds are made. And I am fine if they are smaller than the prototypes are.
Does that help?
- Ron | samwisekoi
(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/M.png)
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Sounds good to me.
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I signed up.
btw, could you update the total order?
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Sorry. Personal circumstances changed and I need to cancel my order for now.
I'll sign up again when this is due, only if I have the funds and can pay up at the time though. Too uncertain right now.
Sorry for any inconvenience.
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Updated OP. We are at 35 total sets, including 18 in Orange on Gray!
Time to do some calculating to see if we've hit MOQ to make the molds.
- Ron | samwisekoi
(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/Leo.png)
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Could we get a mockup of the intended size of the legends then, before we commit?
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Could we get a mockup of the intended size of the legends then, before we commit?
Sure thing. I played with some sizing, and found 80% to look best. Here are some sample images.
(http://www.samwisekoi.com/images/Media7-Black-on-White.jpg)
Original prototype keycaps (actual photo.)
(http://www.samwisekoi.com/images/Media7-Black-on-White-80.jpg)
Legends reduced to 80% of original size (mock-up.)
- Ron | samwisekoi
(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/M.png)
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Yes, reduced much better! I'm in either way though. :)
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how do we buy?
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how do we buy?
Sign up here:
>>>>> http://goo.gl/qkhwS <<<<<
No money is due until we have enough people committed.
- Ron | samwisekoi
(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/M.png)
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Got an update for us?
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Got an update for us?
This set is pending processing for the just-closed retro set. I will update the OP accordingly.
- Ron | samwisekoi
(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/Leo.png)
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Count me in for one Red on Black set.
Already filled out the Google form.
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Is this group buy still being offered or has it closed?
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I have been distracted by Retro DSA. Time to look at this again.
- Ron I samwisekoi
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this thread's klaxon number is 0
hash will check, but i believe that is a new record for a non-klaxon thread.
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wow those charcoal and orange ones are so sick. to bad i dont have volume keys :(
wish they would make a full set inspired with those colors :eek:
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Any news here? I guess since the DSAs should be ordered from SP by now, you might have time to finish this one here.
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I am trying to get Elvish and special mods out of the way now. I may be able to bring this one into the special mods GB, but without that, this buy hasn't built up enough interest to pay for all seven legends. So far, anyhow.
This was a personal project because I wanted individuals and other group buys to have access to these legends even after the first buy. So I will get this one done somehow!
As they say in software development, 'soon'.
- Ron I samwisekoi
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I actually believed these would be way more popular. Kind of sad about that.
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Yes pretty sad.
On the other hand, qwerkeys have media keys in B-series up on their site now - http://www.qwerkeys.co.uk/shop/index.php?route=product/product&path=59_64&product_id=81
Thanks for trying at least, Mr Goldfish! :p
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I hope these get off the ground, I added support for media keys to my firmware in anticipation of using them!
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Honestly, I think for this to be a success we need to pick one color and go with it.
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Yes pretty sad.
On the other hand, qwerkeys have media keys in B-series up on their site now - http://www.qwerkeys.co.uk/shop/index.php?route=product/product&path=59_64&product_id=81
Thanks for trying at least, Mr Goldfish! :p
That's great! Those were my designs; I had Qwerkeys do the prototypes, and they did really nice work. They are expensive, especially if you are not in Europe. Also, WASD has them in OEM-height lasered-ABS. Unicomp also has them for buckling-spring/Model M keyboards
My goal was to make these available from multiple sources including SP, so we could also get them in Cherry profile and with other group buys.
Honestly, I think for this to be a success we need to pick one color and go with it.
Yes. I agree. I think WoR would be best to start.
- Ron | samwisekoi
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Why not go with the color that has the most orders? Orange on grey would be that? Or maybe like the top two colors?
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Only just now saw this groupbuy. Would be interested in a set of black keys with white legends, maybe more colours if prices dropped.
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I hope it won't be too much of a problem bumping this, but I just submitted an order for Gray keys with Orange legends, hoping that this groupbuy is still on... Is it? :-[
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I'd be ok with these http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/keycap-mod-packs/media-shortcuts-cherry-mx-keycap-set.html#ad-image-0
but the orange on gray is just too good to let this GB go. Any chance we can resurrect this?
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I'd do Orange on Gray as well. Can we resurrect it?
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Nice keys! I will resist for now.
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Black Keys with Bright Orange legends...wondered what it would be like
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Yes! Resurrection please. I still need those keys.
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What? Really? I have the prototypes on all my in-use keyboards, and really thought it was a good idea. But the numbers never added up.
I could toss them into the new SP group-buy thingy and see if they can rise from the dead.
Should I?
- Ron | samwisekoi
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Try it!
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i know this is supposed to match with cherry profile.
but i'd be in if in DSA or SA profile on a black base (legend color is completely irrelevant to me)
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i know this is supposed to match with cherry profile.
but i'd be in if in DSA or SA profile on a black base (legend color is completely irrelevant to me)
I know many people will get their Honey Spherical sets soon so SA would be sweet. :D
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i know this is supposed to match with cherry profile.
It isn't. I am quite sure it is meant to match DCS since it is from SP.