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geekhack Community => Keyboards => Topic started by: vld on Sat, 08 December 2012, 04:11:41

Title: CM storm QFR CM-SGK-4000-GKCR1-UI
Post by: vld on Sat, 08 December 2012, 04:11:41
Wow...havent been around here in a while :)
Here's the thing...I can get this QFR, but the code puzzles me - CM-SGK-4000-GKCR1-UI
Whats UI? The key layout is identical to the US version as far as i can tell, but the keys have some additional asian characters. Would those affect me in any way? I want to get blank keycaps anyway...im just want to know if there are any differences in the way the kb itself works.

Here's a pic
(http://i.imgur.com/ZFahZ.jpg)
Title: Re: CM storm QFR CM-SGK-4000-GKCR1-UI
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 08 December 2012, 04:29:30
Most of the first page of Google results are in Romania, so my first guess would be a Romanian layout?

But that seems way too obvious ;)
Title: Re: CM storm QFR CM-SGK-4000-GKCR1-UI
Post by: vld on Sat, 08 December 2012, 04:34:05
Most of the first page of Google results are in Romania, so my first guess would be a Romanian layout?

But that seems way too obvious ;)
Yeah i also googled it yesterday...like i said, in the bottom right corner of the keys, there are some Asian characters...nothing to do with Romania.
Title: Re: CM storm QFR CM-SGK-4000-GKCR1-UI
Post by: fruktstund on Sat, 08 December 2012, 04:36:36
Some kind of Chinese, I think. Not very knowledgeable about Chinese keyboard layouts, so I don't know which one it is specifically (IIRC there are a few variants).

Edit: Zhuyin, apparently: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fa/Keyboard_layout_Zhuyin.svg (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fa/Keyboard_layout_Zhuyin.svg)
Title: Re: CM storm QFR CM-SGK-4000-GKCR1-UI
Post by: vld on Sat, 08 December 2012, 04:42:24
Some kind of Chinese, I think. Not very knowledgeable about Chinese keyboard layouts, so I don't know which one it is specifically (IIRC there are a few variants).

Edit: Zhuyin, apparently: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fa/Keyboard_layout_Zhuyin.svg (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fa/Keyboard_layout_Zhuyin.svg)

Ok...thanks for the info, but all i want to know is if the kb "works" differently in some way. In theory it shouldn't cause the language needs to be changed in the OS, I would just like some reassurance.
Title: Re: CM storm QFR CM-SGK-4000-GKCR1-UI
Post by: fruktstund on Sat, 08 December 2012, 04:50:29
Some kind of Chinese, I think. Not very knowledgeable about Chinese keyboard layouts, so I don't know which one it is specifically (IIRC there are a few variants).

Edit: Zhuyin, apparently: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fa/Keyboard_layout_Zhuyin.svg (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fa/Keyboard_layout_Zhuyin.svg)

Ok...thanks for the info, but all i want to know is if the kb "works" differently in some way. In theory it shouldn't cause the language needs to be changed in the OS, I would just like some reassurance.
I'm almost 100% certain it won't work any differently than your regular US ANSI keyboard. It still sends the same keycodes for the computer to decipher and turn into the correct characters.
Title: Re: CM storm QFR CM-SGK-4000-GKCR1-UI
Post by: TotalChaos on Sat, 08 December 2012, 05:50:25
1. You would have to press the ALT key to generate one of those cRaZy  ^-^ symbols.

2. You won't be using the right keymap on your puter OS so you won't get those chars anyway.

So it won't really "hurt" you to have those chars on there.  They are just the wrong chars for your keymap.  If you use US INTERNATIONAL keymap layout in your OS as everyone should do, then those symbols will actually be useful things like a degree symbol or Euro symbol or Yen symbol or lots of groovy European chars.

I am assuming u r one of those guys who thinks there are only 26 letters in the alphabet.  If that is true then you can get the keyboard and it will work fine for u.  You will never know what u r missing.

Title: Re: CM storm QFR CM-SGK-4000-GKCR1-UI
Post by: dorkvader on Sun, 09 December 2012, 22:41:43
That looks exactly like the one I purchased form PChome right when they came out. I ended up selling the asian-printed keycaps to someone. I still use it sometimes. It works normally, ofcourse. It's that exact model number and everything.

My left alt no longer works. This was an issue with some of them, and I hear newer ones are good.

Totalchaos: I strongly disagree that "everyone should" use US international as their keymap. I have on use for the added characters/complexity, and using QWERTY is just silly when I already know Dvorak
Title: Re: CM storm QFR CM-SGK-4000-GKCR1-UI
Post by: TotalChaos on Sun, 09 December 2012, 22:56:25
Totalchaos: I strongly disagree that "everyone should" use US international as their keymap. I have on use for the added characters/complexity, and using QWERTY is just silly when I already know Dvorak
Obviously a Dvoraker should use a version of Dvorak with all the extra symbols on it and more.  A Colemaker should use a version of Colemak with the extra symbols and more. etc.

All I really meant was "The standard symbols supplied on standard keyboards are a ripoff because they are missing many useful symbols that are part of the ANSI standard."
Title: Re: CM storm QFR CM-SGK-4000-GKCR1-UI
Post by: vld on Mon, 10 December 2012, 02:48:39
Thank for the replies guys, the kb should be here tomorrow.
Title: Re: CM storm QFR CM-SGK-4000-GKCR1-UI
Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 10 December 2012, 22:34:49
If you want to make an even trade of those caps for regular ones, PM me.
Title: Re: CM storm QFR CM-SGK-4000-GKCR1-UI
Post by: YMSNoms on Tue, 11 December 2012, 14:51:52
As far as i can tell its a US layout with Tainwanese/Traditional chinese legend

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/20/Keyboard_layout_Chinese_Traditional.png/420px-Keyboard_layout_Chinese_Traditional.png