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Title: Internet Explorer
Post by: microsoft windows on Tue, 11 December 2012, 13:11:05: Found a funny web site about it the other day:
http://toastytech.com/evil/index.html
Title: Re: Internet Explorer
Post by: paradox on Sat, 26 January 2013, 10:01:47: I don't know how many web designers we have on the site but if you ask them most will agree Internet Explorer is indeed evil.
Title: Re: Internet Explorer
Post by: daerid on Sat, 26 January 2013, 15:15:39: Correction: IE < 10 is evil.

10 is actually a fantastic standards compliant browser.
Title: Re: Internet Explorer
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 26 January 2013, 21:45:45: The nice thing about standards is that there are so many to choose from.
Title: Re: Internet Explorer
Post by: Internetlad on Sun, 27 January 2013, 00:02:55: 9 & 10 are good. Didn't care much for the prior efforts. I suppose 6 was good. . . for it's day.
Title: Re: Internet Explorer
Post by: paradox on Sun, 27 January 2013, 11:13:52: Quote from: daerid on Sat, 26 January 2013, 15:15:39
Correction: IE < 10 is evil.

10 is actually a fantastic standards compliant browser.

True as well. Microsoft didn't start getting it together until 9.
Title: Re: Internet Explorer
Post by: Malphas on Sun, 27 January 2013, 11:17:34: I love websites designed like that.
Title: Re: Internet Explorer
Post by: tufty on Sun, 27 January 2013, 13:12:07: Quote from: Internetlad on Sun, 27 January 2013, 00:02:55
I suppose 6 was good. . . for it's day.

Good lord no. No it wasn't. It was a pox on the internet. The pubic louse of web browsers. As someone who used to make a living doing back ends for dynamic, standards-compliant websites, here's how it works:

1 - Client has an idea for a super new website / internet wossaname
2 - Idea gets fleshed out in terms of technical specs, say a day or two of billable time
3 - Designer makes a nice standards compliant xhtml + css mockup, another week or two of billable
4 - Client is pleased.
5 - Developer builds back end and uses mockup to add a nice UI, add another couple of weeks of billable
6 - Client tries it, and is very pleased.
7 - Developer and Designer start to prepare invoices
8 - Client phones up at 11pm and says "what about ie 6? My mum/sister/significant other uses ie 6, and the test site looks horrible on her computer"

3 months or more of further billable time down the road, the test site looks almost presentable under ie6, but is now horribly bloated, and potentially broken on half the other browsers out there.

Supporting ie6 *tripled* the cost of website development, unless you *only* supported ie6. The only browser to manage to be worse was ie5.5/mac.
Title: Re: Internet Explorer
Post by: koralatov on Mon, 28 January 2013, 03:57:47: Quote from: tufty on Sun, 27 January 2013, 13:12:07
[…] 3 months or more of further billable time down the road, the test site looks almost presentable under ie6, but is now horribly bloated, and potentially broken on half the other browsers out there. […]
I know a web designer who both loved and hated IE6 for that reason. On the one hand, it used to make him tear his hair out because its rendering engine was a total mess; on the other, it meant he could invoice more hours.
Title: Re: Internet Explorer
Post by: davkol on Tue, 29 January 2013, 16:51:32: Quote from: tufty on Sun, 27 January 2013, 13:12:07
Supporting ie6 *tripled* the cost of website development, unless you *only* supported ie6. The only browser to manage to be worse was ie5.5/mac.

You don't remember Netscape 4.0, do you?