Target Launch Date 14 December 2012 to coincide with the release of The Hobbit
There are details out there if you look hard enough... :PQuote from: Samwisekoi on some sort of GeekHack related place...Target Launch Date 14 December 2012 to coincide with the release of The Hobbit
but the color....??
is the green and pearl abandoned?
what happened to this set?
what happened to this set?
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Graah, please make the spacebar match the alphanum keys and not the modifiers!
what happened to this set?
We cannot do an exact match for the spacebar, other than that, stay tuned,
I believe it's impossible to have a perfect color match, and if can't match then it's better to make it completely different.
what happened to this set?I will be in for this color combination. The more yellow green is not as appealing.
Placed my order. Your google form says double shot. :D
...but why stop running it in a month? Let it go for two or so. That way we can get some better numbers.
I think at least a month or so is needed to be able to allow those who can't afford to get in right at the moment the time to plan to be able to, especially during a time like this (Christmas [gifts, traveling, etc.]).This, and not everyone checks geekhack every day, or week, or even month sometimes. Having it available longer allows people to find it, think about it, save up, and participate. In my opinion the only reason to close a group buy early is to buy extras to sell for more than the group buy price and profit.
I believe we can make this GB last a little longer, but let set it to 1 month for now.
Also, samwisekoi please update the image in the first post with the keyboard I posted few posts ago. It has better colors accuracy.
You mean one made out of WOOD!
You mean one made out of WOOD!Good call. I gotta find myself a cnc machine and take some measurements. And I guess learn auto CAD.
Any chance I could mod a QFR case to LOOK like wood? That's my current plan :D
I believe it's impossible to have a perfect color match, and if can't match then it's better to make it completely different.This is very true. I have one of the /kl SP PBT sets, which I used for several months. SP PBT is indeed pretty awesome, but the "almost" spacebar was really annoying. I eventually replaced it with one of those red ones feng got us.
Any chance I could mod a QFR case to LOOK like wood? That's my current plan :D
Sure. Pretty easy. Look here: http://www.mnpctech.com/Wood_Laminate_Film_Simulated.html
- Ron | samwisekoi
This is the closest we can get to the real colors I believe, but I do not have access to the color ring. Spacebar color is to be disputed.
On a side note... I bet everyone gets what's in the ESC key, right?
I believe we can make this GB last a little longer, but let set it to 1 month for now.That is good. That way my wallet can survive for a little longer. :p :p
Also, samwisekoi please update the image in the first post with the keyboard I posted few posts ago. It has better colors accuracy.
Probably the best thing for a Leopold. Next time get a Filco?got one and sold out because the blue switch not suit me...
This GB is too pricey for me. Besides, I do not enjoy when all keys are at the same height.
This GB is too pricey for me. Besides, I do not enjoy when all keys are at the same height.
They are not all the same height.
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SP DCS Profile keycaps.
- Ron | samwisekoi
am thinking of getting a Ducky keyboard....I think ducky might be using the same spacebar. You might also want to look into the QFR. I know that if you can get a few orders together, and talk with our excellent CM representative about it, they might be able to mail it directly to you internationally. Note: The QFR is TKL, though. One plus for the ducky is that you can sell the PBT off it pretty easily.
but not sure the spacebar from this set can fit on to it or not...?
is ducky using the standard spacebar?
the one I m looking at now is DK9087G2pro PBT version or something...
Ron, can you post updates to the OP when we hit 25,50, etc sets?
It's even worse than you think. Because I would hope that samwisekoi and Matt3o are two of those six orders. I'm the third. Only 3 other people signed up? Didn't this pass an IC?
I'm in those 6! I'm planning on making an earthen board just for them!
Some vendors should get involved to boost numbers!
It seems to me that this GB is a little overambitious. The quotes are far too high (unavoidable I know) to attract your average fan who'd use them for a week and then swap out everything but the White Tree. Something like a numeral set* (1 - 0) centered with none of that %≈tree silliness would get more orders. I'm avoiding this both because of my empty pockets and all the liberties taken in transliteration. I understand you fellows have worked hard on this, and I'd like to see LotR keys, but those feet aren't touching the ground :|
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OT but, come to the February Toronto meetup frostwoozle!
Oh, I won't put in for the IC until I know I can afford it. That's why I'm happy this has sort-of a longer IC period, so I can wait a bit.It's even worse than you think. Because I would hope that samwisekoi and Matt3o are two of those six orders. I'm the third. Only 3 other people signed up? Didn't this pass an IC?
There seem to be fewer buyers than there were interested parties, even though the few buyers are very excited.
- Ron | samwisekoi
This is a bad time of the year for an expensive set group buy. If you delay for February/March then more people will feel they have money and can participate. Just let it run for awhile, not like any of the current 6 are going to drop, you can only get more orders in this scenario. I want to order a set, but will not have money for it until February most likely.
I'm gonna fill in an order sometime early in January. I was just waiting for the price! I just see a registration form, is there any form of payment up yet?
I can't remember if I filled the form for this. Can we have a list of people who ordered? Or at least can I be reminded if I ordered or not...? Thanks!
I'm on the fence for this; I'm spending so much money lately, maybe i should exhibit some self control.It's almost midnight. I thought I was going to go a full day without seeing something ridiculous.
I'm on the fence for this; I'm spending so much money lately, maybe i should exhibit some self control.It's almost midnight. I thought I was going to go a full day without seeing something ridiculous.
:-\ damn geek hack, every day something cool I want to or will buy
Ooh, did we do something about the spacebar color?
Updated the OP with a new mock-up. (I'm experimenting with more realistic keyboard mock-ups.)
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Updated keyboard mock-up as of 04-Jan-2013.
- Ron | samwisekoi
Very nice. But can you throw the original images (from this thread, not the IC) back up somewhere just for comparison/history's sake? Maybe in one of the reserved posts so as not to conflict with the OP? Thanks Ron, can't wait for this :D
It looks to me like this group buy might not happen, but whatever. I'm in!
This is my first post, and I just made this account, but I've been lurking for years and own multiple Unicomps, a Kinesis Advantage, trackballs galore, two Leopolds (brown and red) with a blue on the way... I claim I'm moderately legit ;)
Thanks for putting together something that encouraged me to create an account.
we are definitely going to extend this. we are at 15 orders right now.
we are definitely going to extend this. we are at 15 orders right now.
Do you think you would ever make this set in the RACE Profile?
If we had them doubleshot, we'd be looking at roughly $45 each key just for the legends. $3870 in legend fees alone, divided by 25 sets=~$155, on top of the cost of the set.Oh yeah, I forgot about that.
Lets get an order form up :) !!!! I want two Sets!
Does this price include delivery?
If not, how much would it cost to ship to Australia?
Thanks
PS: interest pending regarding the cost of shipping :D
Priority Mail® International Small Flat Rate Box**
Expected Delivery 6 - 10 business days Post Office Price $23.95
25 sets gogo! I need to make an earthy brown filco just for these!
25 sets gogo! I need to make an earthy brown filco just for these!
how many do we need?
25 sets gogo! I need to make an earthy brown filco just for these!
how many do we need?
Looks like the last update was 19 sets as of Jan.27. So still 6, and that's if everyone who has signed up won't drop out. A vendor needs to step in and buy some sets :D
25 sets gogo! I need to make an earthy brown filco just for these!
how many do we need?
Looks like the last update was 19 sets as of Jan.27. So still 6, and that's if everyone who has signed up won't drop out. A vendor needs to step in and buy some sets :D
i am in for two ...
we are already at 27 (+1 for mine), if everybody pays :P Like I said if we miss by 1 unit I may be willing to fill the gap.
we are already at 27 (+1 for mine), if everybody pays :P Like I said if we miss by 1 unit I may be willing to fill the gap.
Well then! Hope we can get this set on the road :D
Hey! Just sent my order in.
Mistakenly put my username as "Owlexander."
This is my actual account, so...
Please add me to the list, I can't wait (:
When will the invoices be sent ?
When will the invoices be sent ?
when the DSA Retro will be over presumably
$109.15
$109.15
That is the quote for the raw plastic sitting in bags and boxes at SP. So add bulk shipping, sorting, packaging, shipment to the group-buy member, etc. We will have to individually QA these sets, since the keycaps will be in ELVISH.
- Ron | samwisekoiShow Image(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/Leo.png)
Are you still on that price tier? I thought there would have been some orders by now
orders are still open
spacebar is creamy
When are they going to close?
I want to get a set but my grilfriend will freak out if I do.
This keycap set is dye-sub PBT and SP's spacebars are ABS, so color-matching the spacebar is an issue, and will be discussed in this thread and then decided and announced as soon as possible.
Colors have been discussed and decided. They are shown below. For the people with color rings, they are GTF, WCS, and VCD.
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GTF, WCS, and VCD
- Ron | samwisekoiShow Image(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/Leo.png)
This keycap set is dye-sub PBT and SP's spacebars are ABS, so color-matching the spacebar is an issue, and will be discussed in this thread and then decided and announced as soon as possible.
Colors have been discussed and decided. They are shown below. For the people with color rings, they are GTF, WCS, and VCD.
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GTF, WCS, and VCD
- Ron | samwisekoi
Cool, but the light colors look identical to me! I'm sure it's just my crappy Dell screen at work, but how close are those two shades?
Hi, are you gonig to make the 104 set? Im in for a 104 set. otherwise ill take whatever you have lol.
Would there be a "normal elfish" Esc key available? (Not the Geekhack translation)
I'd like "Escape" in Elfish the most. Or just another symbol, no offense for GH, but I just don't like to have that on my keyboard :P
I'd like "Escape" in Elfish the most. Or just another symbol, no offense for GH, but I just don't like to have that on my keyboard :P
"Escape" should just be a picture of a ring.
:)
"Escape" should just be a picture of a ring.
:)
So our thinking was that if Elron was designing a keyset, the last thing he would add to it would be anything of or from Sauron.
Next up, we should make a keyset that has nothing but the eye of Sauron on all legends.
Do they make DSA in PBT?
Just read the amount. It's $109 a set w/ shipping?I'm pretty sure it's $109 for the keycaps, and shipping is extra.
With any luck, once the Rain Drop and Toxic GBs wrap up, people will take a flyer on the Sindarin set and help to drive prices down. Either way, it's a cool set, I think it would look boss on a board with a dark green anodized case. That's my plan, anyhow! :))
I can't remember if I actually ordered a set after I asked about the shipping price. Can you jog my memory? I'm trying to catch up on what goodies I have coming this year (and which ones I can order more of).
I'll probably be in for the samwisekoi GH60 plate too :) .
So what exactly are we waiting for with this GB? If it's lack of time from the organizers to dedicated to this GB, that's totally fine with me. But if it's just stalling time so that we might reach 50 sets, then I think we should just invoice and submit the order. It took a really long time to build up to 30 sets, and most of these people were the initial ones interested. Waiting for the last 18 will take a very long time, if it happens at all.
I'm ok with paying an extra $15 to get this many months sooner than waiting for it to reach 50 sets. I'm not complaining, just throwing out my thoughts.
How about OP posting the current cost vs the proposed >= 50 sets cost and get a consensus from the people with orders whether they want to pay the higher cost or wait and hope more people order?
Perhaps advertise/promote the set a bit more on GH and DT to get those extra orders?
Since I'm a geekhack key cap collector, I'm curious if just the "geek hack" key caps will be available in a separate pack?
If not, would anyone be interested in selling me theirs?
No Geekhack key. ESC will be translated into Elvish.
No Geekhack key. ESC will be translated into Elvish.
esc in elvish
esc in elvish
The thread is unclear on this point.We'll fix that. Matt3o is making the final SVG now, so what he designs is what will be made.
In the meantime, we'll tell Mashby the escape key 'says' Geek Hack in Elvish. Limited edition, and still cheaper than a CC.
- Ron I samwisekoi
okay guys, I have an incredible news for you.
I've found a Chinese manufacturer that could do this in PBT double-shot at more or less the same price! Spacebar included! I believe we should take this opportunity right away also considering today's date!
What corpus linguistics of Sindarin did you use to analyse runes frequencies to come up with layout that will be comfortable for writing in Elvish?
What corpus linguistics of Sindarin did you use to analyse runes frequencies to come up with layout that will be comfortable for writing in Elvish?
Haha my thoughts exactly.What corpus linguistics of Sindarin did you use to analyse runes frequencies to come up with layout that will be comfortable for writing in Elvish?
This entire GB/thread is pretty geeky, but this question raises the bar. +1 for you sir.
Haha my thoughts exactly.What corpus linguistics of Sindarin did you use to analyse runes frequencies to come up with layout that will be comfortable for writing in Elvish?
This entire GB/thread is pretty geeky, but this question raises the bar. +1 for you sir.
I love you guys. Even though I will never use this keyboard to type in Sindarin, I truly appreciate the effort that was made for it to be true.
I love you guys. Even though I will never use this keyboard to type in Sindarin, I truly appreciate the effort that was made for it to be true.
i'd buy it if there's a version that has numpad!
i'd buy it if there's a version that has numpad!
We designed a number pad, but the volume is so incredibly low it didn't seem worth it.
However, if adding the number pad pulls the total over 50 sets, then it would be free. Do you have 19 friends?
- Ron | samwisekoiShow Image(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/Leo.png)
i'd buy it if there's a version that has numpad!
We designed a number pad, but the volume is so incredibly low it didn't seem worth it.
However, if adding the number pad pulls the total over 50 sets, then it would be free. Do you have 19 friends?
- Ron | samwisekoiShow Image(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/Leo.png)
What is the cost with a numpad in the set, as a whole set?
Thermonuclear knowledge bomb.Wow, I really appreciate the thought that has gone into this. That was a great read, I learned a lot. Thank you so much, it is really appreciated. I'm sure this set is going to look incredible when it becomes a reality.
i'd buy it if there's a version that has numpad!
We designed a number pad, but the volume is so incredibly low it didn't seem worth it.
However, if adding the number pad pulls the total over 50 sets, then it would be free. Do you have 19 friends?
- Ron | samwisekoiShow Image(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/Leo.png)
I'n not sure if I was around when the IC was run, but I would definitely be interested in a number pad. Most of my keyboards are 104-key, that's my preferred layout.
I would also pay a little extra for a numpad.
I would prefer green mods for the price. There are enough imsto sets floating around, I don't need another bland set.
let's wait for samwisekoi to wake up :)
Hmm this is a bit of a huge change, and last minute too. Same color caps across all keys are too common for PBT sets. The green mods is much unique and aesthetically pleasing to me.
If we were to go with imsto, is it possible for him to start off with green-dyed mods, then dyesube the black characters on there? This was possible with one of his blue/grey two-tone set. So instead of blue/grey, ask him for green/white.
Dam $140 - $175 is a lot to stomach for a set. But that means it's already decided to go with full set instead of TKL set originally planned for? What was the base price increase going from TKL to full set with numpad?
When I said green dye for the modifiers, I meant adding the dye to one of the processes during manufacturing, not dye them after the caps have already finished. Imsto is absolutely right on quality of dying them after they've already been made. I've actually tried this with many types of dyes, and it's hard to get a good color saturation, and there will always be stress marks. Any coloring needs to happen at the time the caps are made.
I will pay $140-175
To clarify was this moving up to the 104 key? Or still the TKL price? I would prefer the 104 as this will be a one time GB unlike many others where they get done many times over the years.
How long will the orders be open? What will the ESC key say?
I will be willing to pay $150 and not care if it's made by imsto or SP, as long as it's the two tone white/green like how it is now. If it's from imsto and all white, I'm out too. But I imagine some international guys will drop out if it's from SP, because it's a 60% price increase for them compared to what was listed in the OP. $175 is A LOT for them.
I am officially announcing a pause in this GB so we can find a way to solve the above quandary. We are happy to listen to concrete suggestions, and will be back to you all.
I'm still in at $140.00-$175.00 but only if:
Mods are green
There's an extra white/pearl/cream `~ and \| key
The set looks amazing
I don't think there is any issue with paying sales tax to SP, as they are in WA and Ron is in CA. The only place where tax plays a factor is when the end purchaser is also in CA, then Ron would have to collect sales tax from those buyers when he sells them a set.
Hello everyone!Welcome to Geekhack! This is going to be an excellent group buy once everything's sorted out.It looks like this Group Buy is still going but paused to solve some cost related and key cap customization issues? Either way, I'm all in!
Is this group buy still going? The first post was last updated on March 23, 2013 but the Google form supposedly closed in January...
I'm also a bit of a n00b as far as GeekHack group buys and keyboard modding is concerned so if I screwed up, I apologize in advance.
Otherwise, I am super excited for this group buy!
MD
Hello everyone!Welcome to Geekhack! This is going to be an excellent group buy once everything's sorted out.It looks like this Group Buy is still going but paused to solve some cost related and key cap customization issues? Either way, I'm all in!
Is this group buy still going? The first post was last updated on March 23, 2013 but the Google form supposedly closed in January...
I'm also a bit of a n00b as far as GeekHack group buys and keyboard modding is concerned so if I screwed up, I apologize in advance.
Otherwise, I am super excited for this group buy!
MD
Hello everyone!Welcome to Geekhack! This is going to be an excellent group buy once everything's sorted out.It looks like this Group Buy is still going but paused to solve some cost related and key cap customization issues? Either way, I'm all in!
Is this group buy still going? The first post was last updated on March 23, 2013 but the Google form supposedly closed in January...
I'm also a bit of a n00b as far as GeekHack group buys and keyboard modding is concerned so if I screwed up, I apologize in advance.
Otherwise, I am super excited for this group buy!
MD
I'm new to group buys as well, and i'm also wondering...
when this is sorted out and we pay the fees, how much longer would it take for us to actually receive the keycaps? it seems like after we pay the money, we then have to wait for them to manufacture, ship, check, and re-ship... how long is this process?
Hello everyone!Welcome to Geekhack! This is going to be an excellent group buy once everything's sorted out.It looks like this Group Buy is still going but paused to solve some cost related and key cap customization issues? Either way, I'm all in!
Is this group buy still going? The first post was last updated on March 23, 2013 but the Google form supposedly closed in January...
I'm also a bit of a n00b as far as GeekHack group buys and keyboard modding is concerned so if I screwed up, I apologize in advance.
Otherwise, I am super excited for this group buy!
MD
I'm new to group buys as well, and i'm also wondering...
when this is sorted out and we pay the fees, how much longer would it take for us to actually receive the keycaps? it seems like after we pay the money, we then have to wait for them to manufacture, ship, check, and re-ship... how long is this process?
i'm not too annoyed by the price... but the fact that it takes so much hassle and time for these caps to ship is discouraging :(
i'm not too annoyed by the price... but the fact that it takes so much hassle and time for these caps to ship is discouraging :(
i'm not too annoyed by the price... but the fact that it takes so much hassle and time for these caps to ship is discouraging :(
you make it sound like we are making a profit out of it.
possibly, but think how frustrating it is for Ron and me. I spent something like 500hours designing and discussing this keyboard, this stall is killing me but -you know- they are just keycaps.
I just hoped we could get it up to 50 orders. A good $14 drop.
I have no need for the extra keypad set, but I'll be ok with them as long as it's not more than a $20 price increase. I just really want this set to work out.
I wouldn't mind the numpad set.
So to fill out a full GH60 I would need:
Left shift: 1.25x + 1x
Right shift: 1.75x + 1x
Enter: 1x + 1.25x
Backspace 1x 1x
All 1x keys I could source from arrows, numpad or end/home keys but I would need a 1.25x and a 1.75x for the second row and a 1.25x for the third row. Would this be possible to arrange? The ideal would be to have the same legends for the shifts and enter key.
And I'm correct to assume that the profile for the number row and the esc/function row are the same?
I wouldn't mind the numpad set.
So to fill out a full GH60 I would need:
Left shift: 1.25x + 1x
Right shift: 1.75x + 1x
Enter: 1x + 1.25x
Backspace 1x 1x
All 1x keys I could source from arrows, numpad or end/home keys but I would need a 1.25x and a 1.75x for the second row and a 1.25x for the third row. Would this be possible to arrange? The ideal would be to have the same legends for the shifts and enter key.
And I'm correct to assume that the profile for the number row and the esc/function row are the same?
Last to first, yes, the top two rows have the same profile. The bottom two rows have another matching profile. So using SP numbering, from top to bottom on a TKL/104-key keyboard, the row profiles are:
1 Esc...
1 Tilde...
2 QWER...
3 ASDF...
4 ZXCV...
4 Spacebar and mods
Second, in many group buys, the small set of extras you mentioned would be available, but this is such a very small group buy that only the basic 87 or possibly 104-key sets will be made. I'll note that you could use this set quite nicely on an ANSI/Poker layout GH60.
- Ron | samwisekoiShow Image(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/Poker.png)
I wouldn't mind the numpad set.
So to fill out a full GH60 I would need:
Left shift: 1.25x + 1x
Right shift: 1.75x + 1x
Enter: 1x + 1.25x
Backspace 1x 1x
All 1x keys I could source from arrows, numpad or end/home keys but I would need a 1.25x and a 1.75x for the second row and a 1.25x for the third row. Would this be possible to arrange? The ideal would be to have the same legends for the shifts and enter key.
And I'm correct to assume that the profile for the number row and the esc/function row are the same?
Last to first, yes, the top two rows have the same profile. The bottom two rows have another matching profile. So using SP numbering, from top to bottom on a TKL/104-key keyboard, the row profiles are:
1 Esc...
1 Tilde...
2 QWER...
3 ASDF...
4 ZXCV...
4 Spacebar and mods
Second, in many group buys, the small set of extras you mentioned would be available, but this is such a very small group buy that only the basic 87 or possibly 104-key sets will be made. I'll note that you could use this set quite nicely on an ANSI/Poker layout GH60.
- Ron | samwisekoiShow Image(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/Poker.png)
I wouldn't mind the numpad set.
So to fill out a full GH60 I would need:
Left shift: 1.25x + 1x
Right shift: 1.75x + 1x
Enter: 1x + 1.25x
Backspace 1x 1x
All 1x keys I could source from arrows, numpad or end/home keys but I would need a 1.25x and a 1.75x for the second row and a 1.25x for the third row. Would this be possible to arrange? The ideal would be to have the same legends for the shifts and enter key.
And I'm correct to assume that the profile for the number row and the esc/function row are the same?
Last to first, yes, the top two rows have the same profile. The bottom two rows have another matching profile. So using SP numbering, from top to bottom on a TKL/104-key keyboard, the row profiles are:
1 Esc...
1 Tilde...
2 QWER...
3 ASDF...
4 ZXCV...
4 Spacebar and mods
Second, in many group buys, the small set of extras you mentioned would be available, but this is such a very small group buy that only the basic 87 or possibly 104-key sets will be made. I'll note that you could use this set quite nicely on an ANSI/Poker layout GH60.
- Ron | samwisekoiShow Image(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/Poker.png)
Any progress with the GB? I've been constantly checking, haha. Are you guys still looking for more people interested in the set? This is a really amazing design, probably the best I've seen on GH, and even though the price is expensive compared to the raindrop / sanctuary sets, i'm probably still end up buying it without hesitation.
D:
Update:
We will make this happen. It is not actively being worked as we finish Retro DSA, but we have not forgotten it.
Colors have been picked, we have both TKL and 104-key designs, all we need is bandwidth to execute.
Just not yet.
Also...
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Sindarin (Elvish) Escape Key
- Ron | samwisekoiShow Image(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/M.png)
Are the colors going to remain the same as first proposed?
I'm guessing no updates to the high pricing? That's probably the biggest factor for most people right now.
I don't think I like that idea. DSA is nice and all, but not everything should be on them...
I don't think I like that idea. DSA is nice and all, but not everything should be on them...
Your esoom call has been heard. Or herd?
I don't think I like that idea. DSA is nice and all, but not everything should be on them...
Your esoom call has been heard. Or herd?
Girlshark agrees with his enemy moose.
Hmmm. That gives me an idea. What about Elvish in DSA so people can arrange the keycaps however they choose? Matt3o, let's think on that off-line.
I keep watching and nothing happens...
- If you don't like it you are a booby
Blanks in both colors for 1x (relegendables possible?), 1.25x, 1.5x and 2x.
Edit: also, tsangan.
Blanks in both colors for 1x (relegendables possible?), 1.25x, 1.5x and 2x.
Edit: also, tsangan.
+1. Blanks - yes, and tsangan too if possible.
| Item | Sindarin | Blank | Total |
| Plastic | 95.33 | 44.08 | 139.41 |
| Collation | incl. | 5.30 | 5.30 |
| Bulk Shipping | 1.00 | 1.00 | 2.00 |
| Sub-Total (RAW) | 96.33 | 50.38 | 146.71 |
| Packing | 4.67 | 2.08 | 6.75 |
| Shipping | 5.50 | 5.50 | 11.00 |
| S&H | 10.17 | 7.58 | 17.75 |
| Sub-Total CONUS | 106.50 | 57.96 | 164.46 |
| PayPal fee | 3.50 | 2.04 | 5.54 |
| Total Shipped | 110.00 | 60.00 | 170.00 |
| California Sales Tax | 8.68 | 4.54 | 13.22 |
Sam, are you going to offer blank sets to non Sindarin buyers? Just curious, tempted to get a blank DSA PBT set, but the whole Sindaring thing is out of my budget.
The GB is on Sindarin, blanks are a bonus. Also I don't want this to go wild :) We have some options here.
1) Let people order just the blanks BUT the MOQ is on Sindarin. If we have 1000 blanks and 24 Sindarins the MOQ is not met and the GB dies
2) The Sindarin to blank ratio must be 1:2 at any given time (or 1:3). So two people can buy blanks only if at least one buys Sindarin
3) If you buy at least 1 Sindarin you can buy any quantity of blanks (but I wouldn't have Ron do the sorting, it's up to the buyer to proxy)
4) Unlock the blanks only when the Sindarin MOQ is met
no 1.5x and 2x blanks for ergodox? just blank sets? :(
is the order form on OP is the new one?
Why do you organizers say "perhaps today" if you're going to ignore the thread for the succeeding 2 weeks? This gb has been going on for many months now, and as much as i love the set i'm pretty sick of this pace.
There are people who understand you have other things going on than just this GB. I haven't been here long, but I interstage that patience is a really impotent quality if you want to enjoy GH.
There are people who understand you have other things going on than just this GB. I haven't been here long, but I interstage that patience is a really impotent quality if you want to enjoy GH.
You speak WAY better English than I speak Japanese, but that's an awesome phrase that I need to use on my boss to see if he's paying attention.
Anyway, psyched to see this finally getting off the ground!! (order form sent)
Yes, there's an order form on the first post.
Order form is not up yet. Perhaps today.
As a guy perusing a Master
As a guy perusing a Master
:eek:
Why do you organizers say "perhaps today" if you're going to ignore the thread for the succeeding 2 weeks? This gb has been going on for many months now, and as much as i love the set i'm pretty sick of this pace.
any updates? :/
updates? :/ any changes to the OP form?
One does not simply ask for updates.......3 times. This is clearly a complicated piece of organization. Make like an Ent and wait.
Why do you organizers say "perhaps today" if you're going to ignore the thread for the succeeding 2 weeks? This gb has been going on for many months now, and as much as i love the set i'm pretty sick of this pace.any updates? :/updates? :/ any changes to the OP form?
Man it's like you feel entitled to this set. You must be new here... one thing you'll learn about GB on here is that you must be patient. This is all voluntary work. No one is going to quit their day jobs and real life obligations so you can get your stuff earlier.
And some weeks before Matteo wondered (in another IC) why this fee didn't appear for Sindarin… DSA PBT dyesubbed full sets are cursed.
IF you like, I could include this in next dyesubs groupbuy I do with imsto production.
IF you like, I could include this in next dyesubs groupbuy I do with imsto production.
IF you like, I could include this in next dyesubs groupbuy I do with imsto production.
This one (http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/ic-discussion-on-beige-set-t6061-210.html#p123583) and lower in the page he explains that this fee is for the missing printing heads : it lacks some of them to have all the keycaps size needed to a classic keyboardAnd some weeks before Matteo wondered (in another IC) why this fee didn't appear for Sindarin… DSA PBT dyesubbed full sets are cursed.
Which fee is that? Did a quick search but I'm not sure which thread you're referring to.
Perhaps you could get blank PBT caps from SP in proper colors and then forward them to IMSTO for dye sublimation? Akin to what Ragnarok has done with his current ZOMG novelty cap group buy.
Perhaps you could get blank PBT caps from SP in proper colors and then forward them to IMSTO for dye sublimation? Akin to what Ragnarok has done with his current ZOMG novelty cap group buy.
At this point, thick pbt cherry profile from imsto is the same (or better depending on your preference!)
But if the UV dyesub GB produce some great results, it could be interesting to consider for this set!
This one (http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/ic-discussion-on-beige-set-t6061-210.html#p123583) and lower in the page he explains that this fee is for the missing printing heads : it lacks some of them to have all the keycaps size needed to a classic keyboardAnd some weeks before Matteo wondered (in another IC) why this fee didn't appear for Sindarin… DSA PBT dyesubbed full sets are cursed.
Which fee is that? Did a quick search but I'm not sure which thread you're referring to.
This one (http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/ic-discussion-on-beige-set-t6061-210.html#p123583) and lower in the page he explains that this fee is for the missing printing heads : it lacks some of them to have all the keycaps size needed to a classic keyboard
in this thread he said "The only alternative would be to go DCS (PBT+dyesub)." So is there a possibility to revive this using just DCS? if thats the case I'm willing to set aside DSA just to get Sindarin.
I think it lacks more than the 125 and I don't think Matt and Sam want to continue just for a base set (unfortunately)This one (http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/ic-discussion-on-beige-set-t6061-210.html#p123583) and lower in the page he explains that this fee is for the missing printing heads : it lacks some of them to have all the keycaps size needed to a classic keyboard
If I understand correctly, the problem is that there are no dyesubbing tools for DSA 1.25 mods? In that case, is there any interest for just a base set, possibly with blank mods? I assume that would avoid the extra fee, and would at least get us the tengwar and tethar.
I think it lacks more than the 125 and I don't think Matt and Sam want to continue just for a base set (unfortunately)
I missed that here but he told approx the same on DT in the beige set thread.
Matt3o says in that thread that it's the 1.25, shift and return that's missing.
But in any case, seems he's still negotiating with SP about that beige DSA set, so we'll see.
At $4000 we I think we would need at least 100 sets to cover the tooling, I'm totally up for the task of trying to get 100 people for the group buy if there is still interest on the organizers behalf.
What are these missing heating heads? Why does that sound like something along the lines of "cost of running a business", and shouldn't be passed onto us?
What are these missing heating heads? Why does that sound like something along the lines of "cost of running a business", and shouldn't be passed onto us?
I agree on that and I'm indeed trying to negotiate that cost.
I stepped away and came back to a 15-page RIP thread? Maybe this doesn't have to die.
Well, it is dead already, so I guess this is a necromancy (eschatology?) thread now -- Undead SIndarin Keycaps!
- Ron | samwisekoi
p.s. Who remembers A/UX and its Eschatology partition?
If anyone really, really wants Sindarin/Elvish keycaps, we would be happy to send a copy of the layout file over to WASD Keyboards. They have indicated to me that they can laser etch sets onto their customizable ABS keycaps.
Zombie threads FTW!
Seems the missing dyesub heads have been purchased, if Granite DSA is anything to go by, so that solves that problem. Is there still enough interest from people to get this made in some way?
Zombie threads FTW!
Seems the missing dyesub heads have been purchased, if Granite DSA is anything to go by, so that solves that problem. Is there still enough interest from people to get this made in some way?
I thought this was cancelled due to copyright issues?
this will come back real soon... stay tuned :)
not it's not "might". It will in just a couple of weeks :)
not it's not "might". It will in just a couple of weeks :)
not it's not "might". It will in just a couple of weeks :)
The return of the king?
Returning soon? I want to know more! :)