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Title: [WTB] DSLR Camera w/ Macro Lens
Post by: TheProfosist on Mon, 17 December 2012, 03:23:53: I know that there are a bunch of you on this forum that are into cameras and DSLRs so i thought id post and at a minimum get some advice or in the best situation get a camera. Im looking for a decent but not expensive DSLR camera. It can be an older model and used but needs to be a solid camera that can take sold pics easily enough. I know ive heard of a few models like this when skimming the camera threads, like ones with great picture quality and sensor but low meagpixels but a favorite of the camera crowd. One important thing is the availability of a macro lens for the camera as I take tons of close up pics of keys, keyboards, and keyboard parts. Also the better the camera is in low light without a flash (not using the macro lense in this case)the happier I am. I would prefer a Canon if possible as ive had canon digital cameras since the early digital camera. I would also like the ability to do RAW if possible as this would just be a nice feature. I already have some pretty quick and large SDHC/SDXC cards so i would prefer that but knowing this is probably going to be an older camera my guess is that I am going to end up with CF. Nothing I have listed is a deal breaker except the price of the camera and the macro lense for that camera. I want to spend as little as possible but still get something decent that will last and serve my continued purpose. If there is any other info that you need from me to find sutiable model let me know.

EDIT: If it matters I currently have a Canon SX210 IS and before that I had a Canon SD400 and before that... umm i think a Canon SD30 an their might have been one before that but I have no way of looking that up. And before digital i didnt use a camera too much work.

EDIT: This (http://tinyurl.com/cl3wwn8) is my current setup where I talk most of my pictures.

EDIT: o just thought about this another nice feature even if its an addon for the camera would be and ability to take a shot remotely. I think this would just be very useful. Say mount the camera very stably in one spot focused on my work area and just snap shots as i want to.

EDIT: Anther feature ive seen but dont know how high of a camera you need is the ability to link the camera to a PC and have it directly dump the pictures to it immediately . this would be usefull for the above idea or really anytime I do what I did with my KPAD taking pictures each step.
Title: Re: [WTB] DSLR Camera w/ Macro Lense
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Mon, 17 December 2012, 03:41:59: If you're only taking keyboard-related pics, then a decent point-and-shoot camera would be fine. I'm using a cannon ELPH 300 HS (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004J41T7Q/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B004J41T7Q&linkCode=as2&tag=635816-20) and it's pretty good for macro shots. I think Dan uses the same camera for all his pics too. Here's an example, everything is on automatic since I haven't taken the time to learn all the settings lol. With some time to play around with the settings, I'm sure it can look even better.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/th_Misc.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/?action=view&current=Misc.jpg)
Title: Re: [WTB] DSLR Camera w/ Macro Lense
Post by: TheProfosist on Mon, 17 December 2012, 04:57:04: This is what I am currently doing but I think i would do a bit better with a better setup. I dont know if you have seen any of my pics but to achieve those i take 3-5 pictures minimum for each one that you see.

If it matters I currently have a Canon SX210 IS and before that I had a Canon SD400 and before that... umm i think a Canon SD30 an their might have been one before that but I have no way of looking that up. And before digital i didnt use a camera too much work.
Title: Re: [WTB] DSLR Camera w/ Macro Lense
Post by: Turbo Slaab on Mon, 17 December 2012, 05:06:38: Show Image
Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Mon, 17 December 2012, 03:41:59
If you're only taking keyboard-related pics, then a decent point-and-shoot camera would be fine. I'm using a cannon ELPH 300 HS (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004J41T7Q/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B004J41T7Q&linkCode=as2&tag=635816-20) and it's pretty good for macro shots. I think Dan uses the same camera for all his pics too. Here's an example, everything is on automatic since I haven't taken the time to learn all the settings lol. With some time to play around with the settings, I'm sure it can look even better.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/th_Misc.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/?action=view&current=Misc.jpg)

Sorry to be slightly off-topic, but do you use a tripod or something holding the camera up?
Title: Re: [WTB] DSLR Camera w/ Macro Lense
Post by: TheProfosist on Mon, 17 December 2012, 05:13:02: Its cool this thread is partially about learning too. I dont use a tripod because i take most of my pics while im working and dont think I have room for one where im working currently. http://tinyurl.com/cl3wwn8 I dont know about WFD though.
Title: Re: [WTB] DSLR Camera w/ Macro Lense
Post by: Turbo Slaab on Mon, 17 December 2012, 05:32:25: Nice setup! One of the things I read (on OCN I think) was to always use some type of a tripod to get the cleanest shots. I would think that would be the case especially for macro shots because it's so zoomed and focused in.

Even something small like this:

http://www.amazon.com/Joby-GP1-D1EN-Gorillapod-Flexible-Tripod/dp/B000EVSLRO/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1355743830&sr=8-2&keywords=camera+tripod
Title: Re: [WTB] DSLR Camera w/ Macro Lense
Post by: jeroplane on Mon, 17 December 2012, 05:46:51: Tripod is a necessity, since it will help you get great sharp photos in any light. A Gorillapod as Turbo Slaab recommended would be perfect for this sort of thing. You can mount your camera anywhere, e.g. your monitor, your lamps, edge of the table... Otherwise you could get a cheap full-sized tripod and place that just beside your desk.
Title: Re: [WTB] DSLR Camera w/ Macro Lense
Post by: TheProfosist on Mon, 17 December 2012, 05:50:58: I dont have much space on the desk to put something like that when I have all my tools out really. I was thinking possibly an arm that I could mount to the desk that would be flexible and sturdy. I might look into something like that once i get the DSLR and a whitebox or whatever those are called for taking pics of finished products. I think i could get a nice standard tripod from family or friends as they have had or have nice camera and/or video equipment for as long as i can remember, im the last one without it.

o just thought about this another nice feature even if its an addon for the camera would be and ability to take a shot remotely. I think this would just be very useful. Say mount the camera very stably in one spot focused on my work area and just snap shots as i want to.

Anther feature ive seen but dont know how high of a camera you need is the ability to link the camera to a PC and have it directly dump the pictures to it immediately . this would be usefull for the above idea or really anytime I do what I did with my KPAD taking pictures each step.
Title: Re: [WTB] DSLR Camera w/ Macro Lense
Post by: TheProfosist on Mon, 17 December 2012, 05:54:24: Quote from: jeroplane on Mon, 17 December 2012, 05:46:51
Tripod is a necessity, since it will help you get great sharp photos in any light. A Gorillapod as Turbo Slaab recommended would be perfect for this sort of thing. You can mount your camera anywhere, e.g. your monitor, your lamps, edge of the table... Otherwise you could get a cheap full-sized tripod and place that just beside your desk.
yea i was just writing up the above reply as your reply came in do you have any specific ideas for the current area that I work in? recent pics from when I was working on my KPAD are here (http://tinyurl.com/cl3wwn8).
Title: Re: [WTB] DSLR Camera w/ Macro Lense
Post by: Turbo Slaab on Mon, 17 December 2012, 06:16:48: A remote would be nice! Timed mode would come in handy as well. Shooting macro stuff you have to take all human error out.
Title: Re: [WTB] DSLR Camera w/ Macro Lense
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Mon, 17 December 2012, 06:46:42: Quote from: Turbo Slaab on Mon, 17 December 2012, 05:06:38

Sorry to be slightly off-topic, but do you use a tripod or something holding the camera up?

No, all the shots I do are from just holding the camera with my hand. Tripod is indeed recommended, but these are not professional shots so I don't bother with tripod or any camera settings. Like I said, all settings are "automatic" by the camera, so I'm sure if I used a tripod and actually put in the optimal settings, it would look better. Here are a few more examples from the camera, just holding by hand and automatic settings.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/th_IMG_1910.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/IMG_1910.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/th_IMG_1919.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/IMG_1919.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/th_IMG_1542.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/keyboard/IMG_1542.jpg)

This is a great camera. For some half-assed shots, these still turned out decent.
Title: Re: [WTB] DSLR Camera w/ Macro Lense
Post by: Turbo Slaab on Mon, 17 December 2012, 06:48:23: I concur, those are far from potato.
Title: Re: [WTB] DSLR Camera w/ Macro Lens
Post by: TheProfosist on Mon, 17 December 2012, 07:39:34: Im working on getting my most recent pics up but in the mean time I updated the OP with more info thats popped up as weve been talking.
Title: Re: [WTB] DSLR Camera w/ Macro Lens
Post by: jeroplane on Mon, 17 December 2012, 07:49:47: Getting a live feed from the camera to your computer is probably not possible for any camera short of a DSLR. I've used a few different software with Nikon DSLRs, but there aren't any for Point-and-Shoot cameras that I know of.
Title: Re: [WTB] DSLR Camera w/ Macro Lens
Post by: TheProfosist on Mon, 17 December 2012, 07:52:02: Quote from: jeroplane on Mon, 17 December 2012, 07:49:47
Getting a live feed from the camera to your computer is probably not possible for any camera short of a DSLR. I've used a few different software with Nikon DSLRs, but there aren't any for Point-and-Shoot cameras that I know of.
Well as the title on this thread says im looking for a DLSR and Macro Lens that is still the case
Title: Re: [WTB] DSLR Camera w/ Macro Lens
Post by: Turbo Slaab on Mon, 17 December 2012, 07:52:15: Quote from: jeroplane on Mon, 17 December 2012, 07:49:47
Getting a live feed from the camera to your computer is probably not possible for any camera short of a DSLR. I've used a few different software with Nikon DSLRs, but there aren't any for Point-and-Shoot cameras that I know of.

You would think that would be easy enough to incorporate into a point and shoot through simple software.
Title: Re: Re: [WTB] DSLR Camera w/ Macro Lens
Post by: TheProfosist on Mon, 17 December 2012, 12:22:36: Quote from: Turbo Slaab on Mon, 17 December 2012, 07:52:15
Quote from: jeroplane on Mon, 17 December 2012, 07:49:47
Getting a live feed from the camera to your computer is probably not possible for any camera short of a DSLR. I've used a few different software with Nikon DSLRs, but there aren't any for Point-and-Shoot cameras that I know of.

You would think that would be easy enough to incorporate into a point and shoot through simple software.
yes but they probably wouldnt risk the added development costs but anyways still on the look for a dslr like the OP is mentioning.
Title: Re: [WTB] DSLR Camera w/ Macro Lens
Post by: boost on Mon, 17 December 2012, 13:11:41: Go canon. You can pick up a t3i for $420 and the ghetto macro thing from ebay.

http://shop.usa.canon.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_10051_10051_283207_-1?WT.mc_id=C126149
Title: Re: [WTB] DSLR Camera w/ Macro Lens
Post by: asura on Mon, 17 December 2012, 13:22:23: I haven't got the hang of it yet, and I haven't got a tripod yet. But I'm really enjoying my Cannon EOS D450 which I picked up on ebay without any lenses. I'm sure much better cameras are available if you want to spend more, but for my needs it's more than adequate.

If I'm understanding their parlance correctly the DX50's don't give a real time display on the screen, and the DX00's do, I never had a view screen for shooting, so it's not something I miss but if you're used to it then it's worth double checking the specs of whatever you're looking at..

I hadn't done any photography work in over a decade, and it was with a Minolta SLR, and I was always really impressed with the glass, so I picked up a 50mm 1:3.5 MC Macro Rokkor lens and a couple of converters (one without glass, and with to focus to infinity). Also picked up a 50mm 1:1.4 Rokkor prime, and am lusting after a 58mm 1:1.2 Rokkor prime, but they're for more general shooting. And I'm as thoroughly smitten with Minolta lenses as I was all those years ago.
Title: Re: [WTB] DSLR Camera w/ Macro Lens
Post by: TheProfosist on Mon, 17 December 2012, 13:28:38: I think id prefer a higher end older camera then a new but lower end one. I dont know if its correct to think this way, if its not someone please tell me. Also id like to get a true macro lens if possible I dont want to half ass anything here if possible.
Title: Re: [WTB] DSLR Camera w/ Macro Lens
Post by: boost on Mon, 17 December 2012, 13:33:26: Quote from: TheProfosist on Mon, 17 December 2012, 13:28:38
I think id prefer a higher end older camera then a new but lower end one. I dont know if its correct to think this way, if its not someone please tell me. Also id like to get a true macro lens if possible I dont want to half ass anything here if possible.

You don't need to get a highend camera to get great pics. I've seen people with expensive cameras and take ****ty pics.

Don't upgrade to a higher end camera until you out grown the lower end(txi)
Title: Re: [WTB] DSLR Camera w/ Macro Lens
Post by: TheProfosist on Mon, 17 December 2012, 13:40:03: Quote from: boost on Mon, 17 December 2012, 13:33:26
Quote from: TheProfosist on Mon, 17 December 2012, 13:28:38
I think id prefer a higher end older camera then a new but lower end one. I dont know if its correct to think this way, if its not someone please tell me. Also id like to get a true macro lens if possible I dont want to half ass anything here if possible.

You don't need to get a highend camera to get great pics. I've seen people with expensive cameras and take ****ty pics.

Don't upgrade to a higher end camera until you out grown the lower end(txi)

ok does the one you listed support any of the features im looking for. Also would you at all recommend going used or say older but in the same line to save some cash?
Title: Re: [WTB] DSLR Camera w/ Macro Lens
Post by: asura on Mon, 17 December 2012, 13:45:48: Oh the Minolta macro is a proper macro, it's not, however, an auto lens which I like generally, and doubly so for macro. Though you may prefer auto focus - old lenses tend to be much cheaper, and if they're a good make then they should still be exceptional - this lens for example was good enough that it was also produced by Leica under license... It's 1:2 and 1:1 with it's standard extension tube and you can focus even closer with extra tubes or a bellows.

Though I'm sure Cannon make perfectly acceptable AT macro lenses.
Title: Re: [WTB] DSLR Camera w/ Macro Lens
Post by: boost on Mon, 17 December 2012, 13:47:25: Quote from: TheProfosist on Mon, 17 December 2012, 13:40:03
Quote from: boost on Mon, 17 December 2012, 13:33:26
Quote from: TheProfosist on Mon, 17 December 2012, 13:28:38
I think id prefer a higher end older camera then a new but lower end one. I dont know if its correct to think this way, if its not someone please tell me. Also id like to get a true macro lens if possible I dont want to half ass anything here if possible.

You don't need to get a highend camera to get great pics. I've seen people with expensive cameras and take ****ty pics.

Don't upgrade to a higher end camera until you out grown the lower end(txi)

ok does the one you listed support any of the features im looking for. Also would you at all recommend going used or say older but in the same line to save some cash?

Pretty much.
Title: Re: [WTB] DSLR Camera w/ Macro Lens
Post by: Chau on Mon, 17 December 2012, 13:55:59: Hi mate, don't know if you like Nikons but they are definitely worth considering. I've got a D50 (one of their 1st dslr), have had it for 7 years now and after more than 20,000 photos it's still going strong. You can pick up a D50 body fairly cheaply on ebay , an example
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nikon-D50-6-1MP-DSLR-Digital-SLR-Camera-Body-Only-/281037911414?pt=Digital_Cameras&hash=item416f2a3576
or even a newer model. And a lens like this :
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nikon-40mm-f-2-8G-AF-S-Nikkor-DX-Micro-Digital-SLR-Camera-Lens-D3200-D7000-NEW-/350638196623?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D4226070311493741620%26pid%3D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D350638196623%26
You can find it cheaper used of course.
Title: Re: [WTB] DSLR Camera w/ Macro Lens
Post by: TheProfosist on Mon, 17 December 2012, 14:13:36: Quote from: boost on Mon, 17 December 2012, 13:47:25
Quote from: TheProfosist on Mon, 17 December 2012, 13:40:03
Quote from: boost on Mon, 17 December 2012, 13:33:26
Quote from: TheProfosist on Mon, 17 December 2012, 13:28:38
I think id prefer a higher end older camera then a new but lower end one. I dont know if its correct to think this way, if its not someone please tell me. Also id like to get a true macro lens if possible I dont want to half ass anything here if possible.

You don't need to get a highend camera to get great pics. I've seen people with expensive cameras and take ****ty pics.

Don't upgrade to a higher end camera until you out grown the lower end(txi)

ok does the one you listed support any of the features im looking for. Also would you at all recommend going used or say older but in the same line to save some cash?

Pretty much.
yea I just looked up the spec and it seems to have just about everything I was looking at. Would you happen to know the model of a maco lens for it? Also what would i need for a remote i would prefer wireless if at all possible. Would I need both of there or just the wireless one http://tinyurl.com/csx2v9h http://tinyurl.com/cervfbl
Title: Re: [WTB] DSLR Camera w/ Macro Lens
Post by: Acanthophis on Mon, 17 December 2012, 14:14:38: Didn't read through the thread but let me say this: Not the camera does the photo, you do. I saw amazing work with simple 150€ digi cams (well, the user was a professional and used tripod and all sorts of things), and I also saw **** work with a Canon 5D Mark II and L lens.

If you just want to make close-ups/macro shots, I would recommend a tripod first. If your current camera has some manual mode, use it. Set ISO to the lowest, pick a narrow apperture (f8-f11), let the cam decide the exposure.
I'll promise you better pics. If your cam lacks manual options...well, either get a cam who does have manual options or throw in some cash and get a cheap DSLR.

I myself have a Canon 500D (which is the Rebel something on the US market, dunno). I don't use a macro lens. Just can't afford it. But I bought myself a lens tube to go along with my Canon 50/1.4 + tripod. The "marconess" works good enough for me.
In my opinion the tripod is the most important ingredient for a clear closeup shot of non moving things.

Example pic with my setup:

(http://i.imgur.com/GqKdb.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/GqKdb.jpg)
Title: Re: [WTB] DSLR Camera w/ Macro Lens
Post by: link_tree on Mon, 17 December 2012, 14:22:54: what is the reason for buying a dslr? your current camera is quite capable and can take some nice shoots if your target medium is a computer screen.
I suggest you to experiment with your camera first and try to get the maximum out of it before you decide you need a better camera. one thing I learned during the time I've been shooting is that the camera is not as important as the photographer's knowledge and hes ability to adapt to different situations.
the setup around the camera is usually more important then the camera itself. if you place your subject in a good position and set up some flattering light you should be able to take some great shots.

I recommend you to read and watch videos around the internet, they have thought me a lot but no video or guide can replace real experience. so start shooting and changing variables around until you get your desired shot then you will be able to replicate those same actions and hopefully more shots that resembles the first one.

just my 2 cent. ;)
Title: Re: [WTB] DSLR Camera w/ Macro Lens
Post by: jeroplane on Mon, 17 December 2012, 14:40:23: Can't provide any input on Canon as I use Nikon. If you wanted to go Nikon, however, I would recommend a D90. Really solid camera that has never gone out of date (and is well-priced now since it is a couple of years old). From there I can recommend some remotes and tethered live view software.
Title: Re: [WTB] DSLR Camera w/ Macro Lens
Post by: danielucf on Mon, 17 December 2012, 14:45:02: I have a Canon XSi with two kit lenses if you are interested. I think one lens is 18-55, and the other 70-300 if I remember correctly. I know it isn't a macro lens but it is a good start. I don't think this body is capable of taking pictures straight to the computer, but if you flash the internal rom I think this camera is able to "transform" into a higher end Canon that can.

Also low light quality pictures come from the lens and not the DSLR camera body so I think you would want to find something with a low f-stop.
Title: Re: [WTB] DSLR Camera w/ Macro Lens
Post by: TheProfosist on Mon, 17 December 2012, 14:54:32: Just want to point something out I want to upgrade to a DSLR and I know my current cam can take quite nice pics, actually I know it does. I know a better camera wont necessarily make my shots better but I would like to get a bit more into photography and I know that like some of the other things I am into I never really got into until I got a nicer piece of equipment.
Title: Re: [WTB] DSLR Camera w/ Macro Lens
Post by: Chau on Mon, 17 December 2012, 14:57:09: Heck it's Xmas. Let the guy get a new toy...and a dslr IS a great toy. ;D
Title: Re: [WTB] DSLR Camera w/ Macro Lens
Post by: TheProfosist on Mon, 17 December 2012, 14:59:52: Quote from: danielucf on Mon, 17 December 2012, 14:45:02
I have a Canon XSi with two kit lenses if you are interested. I think one lens is 18-55, and the other 70-300 if I remember correctly. I know it isn't a macro lens but it is a good start. I don't think this body is capable of taking pictures straight to the computer, but if you flash the internal rom I think this camera is able to "transform" into a higher end Canon that can.

Also low light quality pictures come from the lens and not the DSLR camera body so I think you would want to find something with a low f-stop.
yea it is missing that feature but that might be a good start for me depending on price. The other thing I noticed its missing is SDXC which would be nice for a larger faster card. sent you a PM danielucf

alright ill have to look into that more
Title: Re: [WTB] DSLR Camera w/ Macro Lens
Post by: do_Og@n on Mon, 17 December 2012, 17:47:48: Here is a cheaper DSLR setup that would give you what you want.

http://www.amazon.com/Nikon-14-2MP-Digital-18-55mm-3-5-5-6/dp/B003ZYF3LO/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1355787490&sr=1-1&keywords=Nikon+d3100
http://www.amazon.com/Neewer-0-45x-52mm-Angle-Macro/dp/B004QKUISO/ref=pd_sim_p_1

I own a Nikon D5000 and have absolutely loved it. I've been able to take every type of photo I could think of and with the default 18-55mm lens you get decent macro shots. I bought the Neewer Macro Lens and was very skeptical but the photos have turned out really nice. As a matter of fact I am debating the sale of my D5000 because I just purchased an old Minolta Maxxum 7000 w/ x2 Lenses for cheap. That is still in the our though.

Here are a few examples of shots I've taken.
Title: Re: [WTB] DSLR Camera w/ Macro Lens
Post by: Dianoda on Mon, 17 December 2012, 20:20:58: Quote from: TheProfosist on Mon, 17 December 2012, 14:59:52
yea it is missing that feature but that might be a good start for me depending on price. The other thing I noticed its missing is SDXC which would be nice for a larger faster card. sent you a PM danielucf

alright ill have to look into that more

Just curious, have you set a budget? I'd suggest doing that first, then try to narrow down your options from there.

With photography gear, the sky really is the limit (I'm currently close to $10K deep in photo equipment between lenses, bodies, filters, tripods, misc hardware and software). For someone just starting out and wanting something more than a lowly (but extremely functional) Rebel, and provided you are set on Canon, I'd recommend looking into a used 50D provided you don't care about video, with the next step up being a 60D/7D (which are both great cameras).

The extras you get by going with the XXD/7D series are mostly more robust build, improved handling (more external controls), better AF systems (improved tracking, faster focus in low light), faster burst rate/bigger buffer size (FPS, duration of max burst speed), and bigger/better viewfinders. What you don't get with the XXD's/7D is better image quality compared to a Rebel, but this is entirely because the IQ is already there - yep, the actual image sensors used in the Rebel series cameras are practically identical to the image sensors used in the XXD/7D models in the same product generation.

Oh, and Nikon makes great stuff too - D90 was a very popular mid range model a few years back, and would definitely be a step up compared to Canon's Rebels circa 2009-2010. Finding one used for cheap shouldn't be too hard.

I'd start to talk about lenses, but I'm afraid I might never stop, so I'll leave that for another day.

Good luck!
Title: Re: [WTB] DSLR Camera w/ Macro Lens
Post by: TAdams on Mon, 17 December 2012, 20:38:02: Its all about the light.

If any of your cameras have a hot shoe (to mount an external flash) I suggest that and to utilize bounce flash (flash bounced or reflected of a card or wall/ceiling). I also like to use FCB or foam core board (foamboard) which I get at arts and crafts stores. It is varying colors of paper glued to a thin piece of foam which makes it sturdy. Speaking of sturdy, for product shots, or subjects that are not moving - there really is no reason not to use a tripod, or a beanbag, or any sort of steady surface. Save time and do it right in the camera, and you can spend less time fixing it in photoshop, gimp, paint shop pro, or whatever you enjoy using.

The next thing you should look at is a DIY or a purchased lightbox which is similar to a light tent. This could be used instead of a flash or in combination with a flash, and should consist of a box with some sort of frame wrapped in white fabric. Some light boxes come with backdrops, however you can easily make your own with paper and or fabrics. Some lightboxes/light tents come with lights, some do not. You can get away with a few cheap posable table lamps and I suggest using all the same lightbulbs (reduce chances of different temperatures). 3, allows for excellent lighting on all sides (top, side, and front [off to side]) You can make do with less lights, but you have to be creative.

After you get the technique down, and the setup, then you can determine if you need to upgrade your camera or not. If you still want a camera, what is your budget?
Title: Re: [WTB] DSLR Camera w/ Macro Lens
Post by: TheProfosist on Fri, 21 December 2012, 11:48:32: Quote from: boost on Mon, 17 December 2012, 13:11:41
Go canon. You can pick up a t3i for $420 and the ghetto macro thing from ebay.

http://shop.usa.canon.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_10051_10051_283207_-1?WT.mc_id=C126149
Got this cant wait!
Title: Re: [WTB] DSLR Camera w/ Macro Lens
Post by: boost on Fri, 21 December 2012, 11:49:57: Quote from: TheProfosist on Fri, 21 December 2012, 11:48:32
Quote from: boost on Mon, 17 December 2012, 13:11:41
Go canon. You can pick up a t3i for $420 and the ghetto macro thing from ebay.

http://shop.usa.canon.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_10051_10051_283207_-1?WT.mc_id=C126149
Got this cant wait!

NICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Welcome to the Canon SIDE!!!

Just bought a ebay macro tube and desktop tripod :)
Title: Re: [WTB] DSLR Camera w/ Macro Lens
Post by: TheProfosist on Fri, 21 December 2012, 11:55:39: here my wishlist which i accidently did on someone elses account (oops, lol) http://amzn.com/w/1BNBZXXAKI4K7
Title: Re: [WTB] DSLR Camera w/ Macro Lens
Post by: mikelanding on Fri, 21 December 2012, 12:32:29: I used a Point and shot Panasonic LX3 for most of macro shot. I DIY a lightbox using box, white paper and cloth with table Lamp as shown on the potato photo ;D
(http://i.imgur.com/kMYlv.jpg?1)

Result is pretty good. Can see below few shot.
(http://i.imgur.com/AMIg9.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/kJRH7.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/kRlT0.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/robuj.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/PAg66.jpg)

Now, I plan to make a more portable solution using DIY Ring Light with Iphone5. You can check out the detail here: http://www.diyphotography.net/how-to-build-a-clever-iphone-ring-light
I think the portable ring light will help a lot when taking shot using iPhone
Title: Re: [WTB] DSLR Camera w/ Macro Lens
Post by: TheProfosist on Fri, 21 December 2012, 12:46:16: nees a whitebox next wil build one going to use ottlite's to light it
Title: Re: [WTB] DSLR Camera w/ Macro Lens
Post by: boost on Fri, 21 December 2012, 12:52:08: Tripod not on your list, did you already get one?
Title: Re: Re: [WTB] DSLR Camera w/ Macro Lens
Post by: TheProfosist on Fri, 21 December 2012, 12:58:02: Quote from: boost on Fri, 21 December 2012, 12:52:08
Tripod not on your list, did you already get one?
no i needs one idk which one to get though i need one that will stand up to regular daily traveling and be 70in tall ish. Any ideas?
Title: Re: [WTB] DSLR Camera w/ Macro Lens
Post by: boost on Fri, 21 December 2012, 13:01:04: Quote from: TheProfosist on Fri, 21 December 2012, 12:58:02
Quote from: boost on Fri, 21 December 2012, 12:52:08
Tripod not on your list, did you already get one?
no i needs one idk which one to get though i need one that will stand up to regular daily traveling and be 70in tall ish. Any ideas?

Here ya go, It's cheap and will do the job.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Opteka-OPT-7000-Professional-Photo-Video-70-Tripod-/300756853396?pt=US_Tripods&hash=item4606816294
Title: Re: Re: [WTB] DSLR Camera w/ Macro Lens
Post by: TheProfosist on Fri, 21 December 2012, 13:06:49: Quote from: boost on Fri, 21 December 2012, 13:01:04
Quote from: TheProfosist on Fri, 21 December 2012, 12:58:02
Quote from: boost on Fri, 21 December 2012, 12:52:08
Tripod not on your list, did you already get one?
no i needs one idk which one to get though i need one that will stand up to regular daily traveling and be 70in tall ish. Any ideas?

Here ya go, It's cheap and will do the job.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Opteka-OPT-7000-Professional-Photo-Video-70-Tripod-/300756853396?pt=US_Tripods&hash=item4606816294
what no crazy 200$ tripod im semi surprised.
Title: Re: [WTB] DSLR Camera w/ Macro Lens
Post by: durainello on Fri, 21 December 2012, 13:24:01: You could consider Micro 4/3, its a cheaper alternatives. Olympus E-PL5 or E-PM2, sell off the kit lens and get a 17-50mm with macro kit lens should save you some bucks.
Title: Re: [WTB] DSLR Camera w/ Macro Lens
Post by: boost on Fri, 21 December 2012, 13:27:27: Quote from: TheProfosist on Fri, 21 December 2012, 13:06:49
Quote from: boost on Fri, 21 December 2012, 13:01:04
Quote from: TheProfosist on Fri, 21 December 2012, 12:58:02
Quote from: boost on Fri, 21 December 2012, 12:52:08
Tripod not on your list, did you already get one?
no i needs one idk which one to get though i need one that will stand up to regular daily traveling and be 70in tall ish. Any ideas?

Here ya go, It's cheap and will do the job.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Opteka-OPT-7000-Professional-Photo-Video-70-Tripod-/300756853396?pt=US_Tripods&hash=item4606816294
what no crazy 200$ tripod im semi surprised.

Don't need to go crazy on the tripd unless your running with it.

Try the macro tube with your stock 18-55mm before you drop $400 on the 60mm. The macro tube is like $7-$10
Title: Re: [WTB] DSLR Camera w/ Macro Lens
Post by: TheProfosist on Fri, 21 December 2012, 23:49:38: This tripod is supposedly really solid though semi heavy but a good price from what ive found http://www.amazon.com/700DX-Professional-Tripod-Panhead-615-315/dp/B0002EXF38
Title: Re: [WTB] DSLR Camera w/ Macro Lens
Post by: nntnam on Sat, 22 December 2012, 00:50:26: You should try manfrotto 055XproB. I'm using one and it's really solid.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/504845-REG/Manfrotto_055XPROB_055XPROB_Aluminum_Tripod_Legs.html
Title: Re: [WTB] DSLR Camera w/ Macro Lens
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 22 December 2012, 00:55:14: Quote from: nntnam on Sat, 22 December 2012, 00:50:26
You should try manfrotto 055XproB. I'm using one and it's really solid.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/504845-REG/Manfrotto_055XPROB_055XPROB_Aluminum_Tripod_Legs.html

that just the legs what did you get for the head?
Title: Re: [WTB] DSLR Camera w/ Macro Lens
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 22 December 2012, 00:57:45: Also anyone know a comparable US available item? http://www.amazon.com/700DX-Professional-Tripod-Panhead-615-315/dp/B0002EXF38
Title: Re: [WTB] DSLR Camera w/ Macro Lens
Post by: nntnam on Sat, 22 December 2012, 00:58:17: Quote from: TheProfosist on Sat, 22 December 2012, 00:55:14
Quote from: nntnam on Sat, 22 December 2012, 00:50:26
You should try manfrotto 055XproB. I'm using one and it's really solid.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/504845-REG/Manfrotto_055XPROB_055XPROB_Aluminum_Tripod_Legs.html

that just the legs what did you get for the head?

I'm using manfrotto 496RC2. They are great combo. You may try 498 one. It may be better if you want to use heavy tele lens.
Title: Re: Re: [WTB] DSLR Camera w/ Macro Lens
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 22 December 2012, 01:35:02: Quote from: nntnam on Sat, 22 December 2012, 00:58:17
Quote from: TheProfosist on Sat, 22 December 2012, 00:55:14
Quote from: nntnam on Sat, 22 December 2012, 00:50:26
You should try manfrotto 055XproB. I'm using one and it's really solid.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/504845-REG/Manfrotto_055XPROB_055XPROB_Aluminum_Tripod_Legs.html

that just the legs what did you get for the head?

I'm using manfrotto 496RC2. They are great combo. You may try 498 one. It may be better if you want to use heavy tele lens.
its bit pricier with that but ill consider it.
Title: Re: [WTB] DSLR Camera w/ Macro Lens
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 22 December 2012, 12:57:15: Camera made it here on day ground :P
Title: Re: Re: [WTB] DSLR Camera w/ Macro Lens
Post by: boost on Sat, 22 December 2012, 13:07:38: Quote from: TheProfosist on Sat, 22 December 2012, 12:57:15
Camera made it here on day ground :P

Pics or it never happened
Title: Re: [WTB] DSLR Camera w/ Macro Lens
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 22 December 2012, 13:52:37: Quote from: boost on Sat, 22 December 2012, 13:07:38
Quote from: TheProfosist on Sat, 22 December 2012, 12:57:15
Camera made it here on day ground :P

Pics or it never happened

the one day ground? i just threw the box in the garage i guess i could grab it...

heres some pics i just too testing out the camera

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I started out on auto and tweajed a few more manual settings with each picture.

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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v519/TheProfosist/GeekHack/GH-sub-random/IMG_0006_zpse2d08b78.jpg)

you can look at them all on photobucket and download the originals here http://smg.beta.photobucket.com/user/TheProfosist/media/GeekHack/GH-sub-random/IMG_0001_zps55ea65d3.jpg.html