I really hate having to sign up for this site, but I did for the ergo-dox. However I'm not sure that I'll be buying because of the phantom and GH60
Aye. A whole new world of awesome!I really hate having to sign up for this site, but I did for the ergo-dox. However I'm not sure that I'll be buying because of the phantom and GH60
These are on a whole 'nother level.
And the acrylic case is designed by yours truly :-)
Have to log in to see the sale? Ha! No.
PASS
But you don't have to have an account here to SEE the GB (terms, pricing, timing, ...). That's the distinction I think is being made.
But you don't have to have an account here to SEE the GB (terms, pricing, timing, ...). That's the distinction I think is being made.
But you don't have to have an account here to SEE the GB (terms, pricing, timing, ...). That's the distinction I think is being made.
Yes this, it's just a slight annoyance that doesn't need to be there
Chris - 8 hours ago
for the pcb option, is each one a set of two or just on singular pcb?
MassdropMark@ Chris - 5 hours ago
$22 for each PCB. If you're building a second keyboard you will need to buy two for $44 total. Just a note, the PCB is the same for both left hand and right hand side of the keyboard.
They include 84 switches, so that's for a whole keyboard, not half. Extra PCB would be for the set of 2 halves, I presume
They include 84 switches, so that's for a whole keyboard, not half. Extra PCB would be for the set of 2 halves, I presume
I believe in a message from them in the discussion they mentioned 1 pcb is half, so you'd need to buy 2 for a set.
They include 84 switches, so that's for a whole keyboard, not half. Extra PCB would be for the set of 2 halves, I presume
I believe in a message from them in the discussion they mentioned 1 pcb is half, so you'd need to buy 2 for a set.
Well I see that. But it makes no sense. Why would they be selling half a keyboard kit?
I really hate having to sign up for this site, but I did for the ergo-dox. However I'm not sure that I'll be buying because of the phantom and GH60
Does anyone have a picture of the aluminum case option?I don't think any exist or have been made yet. I'm interested in pictures as well.
Ok well i did find something silly with MD on their discussion pageOne hand for gaming ofcourse.
questionQuoteChris - 8 hours ago
for the pcb option, is each one a set of two or just on singular pcb?
responseQuoteMassdropMark@ Chris - 5 hours ago
$22 for each PCB. If you're building a second keyboard you will need to buy two for $44 total. Just a note, the PCB is the same for both left hand and right hand side of the keyboard.
To me, when i saw the option to add a pcb, i would have thought you would would get a set, not a single hand lol
I wonder how many people are going to get only one hand :rolleyes:
not sure if anybody wants this but because you have to sign up to see the buy website i did something silly and saved the page as a pdf http://almightyglod.com/public_stack/ERGODOXMASSDROP20130110.pdf
Just in case.....lol
That's actually... kinda interesting. I could see people using the one hand like a Nostromo.Does anyone have a picture of the aluminum case option?I don't think any exist or have been made yet. I'm interested in pictures as well.
They say it's non-anodized "aircraft grade" aluminium (so I assume that means 6061 or similar) which will give you a good idea of the colour. I would guess the shape is the same as the non-palmrest acrylic "layer cake" design, but I really have no idea what they'll go with.
I really want two of these, one in Al and the other in acrylic, but we'll see if I can afford it.
---Ok well i did find something silly with MD on their discussion pageOne hand for gaming ofcourse.
questionQuoteChris - 8 hours ago
for the pcb option, is each one a set of two or just on singular pcb?
responseQuoteMassdropMark@ Chris - 5 hours ago
$22 for each PCB. If you're building a second keyboard you will need to buy two for $44 total. Just a note, the PCB is the same for both left hand and right hand side of the keyboard.
To me, when i saw the option to add a pcb, i would have thought you would would get a set, not a single hand lol
I wonder how many people are going to get only one hand :rolleyes:
Permeability, could you put a JPEG of the kit and keyboard in your initial post? There should also be a short 3 or 4 sentence synopsis describing the Ergodox.This is a good idea. Here's a picture that MassDrop made of theirs.
That will help generate interest for it among newcomers and other people who do not follow every subject on GH.
As long as I am not in the states this won't be viable for me.Why not?
As long as I am not in the states this won't be viable for me. Maybe I'll get in touch with one of the lovely gentlemen on the forum to hold one for me. Hmmm. I really want to support the project. *goes into the think tank*
Could you order just the PCBs and order/make everything else yourself?
I've looked again at the chat response, and what I get from it is this: the "kit" that is being offered includes the PCB (2 halves), case w/plate, Teensy, diodes, switches, etc. Enough to build a complete ErgoDox keyboard. If you want to order "extra" PCBs, they are $22/ea. "Extra" PCB in this case would be each "half." So if you mess up both halves, you need two "extra" PCBs to replace them, which would be additional $44.
The group buy forum is for *running* group buys. Not advertising.I guess since you are an administrator themsed the rules. I thought it could be considered "running" a group buy through Mass Drop, but I guess if Mass Drop and/or the Ergodox team turns a profit it is frowned upon? Too bad they didn't do a real group buy, would probably sell considerably more units.
I am definitely going to buy and put together this keyboard. I just don't know if I want the full hand case or the classic case! How do I decide? This is stressing me out!Full hand case for sure....how else are you going to rest your palms.
Also where is the best place to buy the key-caps for this? I want printed at first.
Just in case this opportunity never comes around again, I picked up four units...two full-hand, two classic, two acrylic and aluminum, one of each combination of configuration options. Will post photos after the fact if people are curious. No switches though until they get reds.
Also, for anyone who's still unsure--don't be silly, of course the kit comes with two PCBs :)
Any extra boards purchased are per hand, in addition to the two needed.
I finally jumped on this. Trying to get in touch with them about shipping to Norway. I used my CONUS address in the meanwhile.
By the way, has anyone considered where to get keycaps for this? I am assuming here, but our regular sets won't fit 100% on the Ergodox, right?
(And yes, I have seen them talk about WASD possibly making a set for the dox)
Okay I think you make a good point. Also when it says extra PCB's if I get an extra 2 for $44 just in case I **** up twice. Then the kit would ship with a total of 4 right? Are circuit boards interchangeable for each side?The ErgoDOX has a single PCB that you flip over for the other side, so each kit has two identical PCB's, one for each hand. I don't think there'll be a group buy of fully-assembled units, but there are several members on GH that have offered their services to assemble the ErgoDOX. Here's everyone that's mentioned it (To my knowledge: Pm me to be added or removed)
I really hope that this goes on another group buy at some point in the future where it ships put together. I could see myself buying another one of these. I am not willing to wait that long though because I have been OCD lurking this thing forever.
changing from Commit to Buy seems like a fairly common user scenario for MD, and you have to email support to make that change?
changing from Commit to Buy seems like a fairly common user scenario for MD, and you have to email support to make that change?
Will there be a final order confirmation? I want to add a bag of switches and extra PCB, but maybe I'm dumb I can't find how to modify my order...
changing from Commit to Buy seems like a fairly common user scenario for MD, and you have to email support to make that change?
just noticed something are there no stabilizers in the kit for the 2x thumb keys?Somewhere it was said that they are not strictly necessary. I guess that is a matter of opinion though. I have not typed on one so I can't give my own opinion.
But you don't have to have an account here to SEE the GB (terms, pricing, timing, ...). That's the distinction I think is being made.
I dont think it is necessary to have stabilizers on 2X thumb key. Speaking as a Kinesis Advantage user. I dont really miss press the 4 thumb keys as much as other 1X or 1.25X keysjust noticed something are there no stabilizers in the kit for the 2x thumb keys?Somewhere it was said that they are not strictly necessary. I guess that is a matter of opinion though. I have not typed on one so I can't give my own opinion.
Have you typed on one yet?
The issue is that these Facebook-connected sites are grooming the incoming generation into being complacent about giving up their personal information. Without looking, who wants to bet that the site lets one sign in with Facebook instead of / in addition to opening an account directly on the site?
well since their 2x keys I would prefer to have stabs, does anyone know what kind are needed?just noticed something are there no stabilizers in the kit for the 2x thumb keys?Somewhere it was said that they are not strictly necessary. I guess that is a matter of opinion though. I have not typed on one so I can't give my own opinion.
Have you typed on one yet?
groupbuy and form up for assembly http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39263.0
This is for those who are in Europe and who desperately wants the keyboard and has absolutely no hope to assemble it themselves:I'll add this information to the list of assembly folk.
I've shown the ErgoDox instructions to my father and he is ready to help the community with assembling services in Europe. Last 25 years he was working at the local electronics repair shop, i.e. basically spending 6 days a week 8 hours a day with hot iron on his table. Plus last year he was also working at Ericsson factory testing GSM equipment.
The complete build will cost 50 euros and this includes: soldering, flashing with a latest firmware of your choice, testing every key and screwing it all together. So you get fully ready keyboard like from the shop.
The algorithm:
- you order the kit(s) from MassDrop and pay for it
- the kit is sent either directly to us in Estonia or to someone being a proxy in US to avoid paying extra taxes and reduce shipping
- optional, see above: proxy collects all the orders and sends them in one box to Estonia
- finally I receive it in Estonia and pay import taxes if we fail to avoid them
- I issue an invoice to you: import taxes (if any) + 50 euro + intra-EU shipping (as far as I can see it is around 14 euros in maxi-letter, small box may be more, please correct me)
- keyboard gets assembled
- meanwhile you pay the invoice to my PayPal
- I double test it and send ready keyboard to you
So you pay either 2 or 3 times depending if you choose to use US proxy and if everything gets organized:
- to MassDrop for the kit
- to US proxy for US->EU shipping
- to me: EU taxes(?) + 50 euro + EU->EU shipping
Let me know in PM if there is interest.
I think I would need the following details:
- nick
- email (for emergency messages)
- address to estimate EU shipping
- number of kits you are going to order
- are you ok if we have US proxy?
- max price if 50 euros is way too much for you - we will see if we can figure smth out
ok so try some costar plate stabs ive got enough of those around it shouldnt be a problem. anyone seen the alu case cause thats what I plan on ordering.
ok so try some costar plate stabs ive got enough of those around it shouldnt be a problem. anyone seen the alu case cause thats what I plan on ordering.
Me too...currently torn between the full hand alu and the full hand acrylic. I'd love to get alu just for durability's sake.
I just reached out to MD Support, again, about the ALU cases. We'll see if I get a response tomorrow - if not, I'll try live chat.
i thought someone said MD was going to build a sample aluminium case this week and post it for us to see, i'm starting to lean towards a full hand aluminium the more i think about it.
the problem really is, and i think Litster said this too somewhere, the full hand case is practical but looks like a pair of mittens. I really cant see myself pulling out a full hand ergodox into my office and not getting laughed at.
still have some time to decide......
via: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=22780.msg684442#msg684442
I really want to support this project.
But the lack of a red switch option is really dissuading me. :(
Thanx for infos!I really want to support this project.
But the lack of a red switch option is really dissuading me. :(
TheProfosist has red switches you can buy, and can assemble the whole thing for you for $40, read the first few posts in this thread:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39263.0
wisth hasu's firmware you can do NKRO over usb isnt that good enough? Also a teensy will never be compatible with PS/2Thanx for infos!I really want to support this project.
But the lack of a red switch option is really dissuading me. :(
TheProfosist has red switches you can buy, and can assemble the whole thing for you for $40, read the first few posts in this thread:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39263.0
All problems are solved to my minimum level of satisfaction except for the PS/2. I am still waiting on my $200.00 bribe to take its effect.
It isn't about NKRO its about the connector.wisth hasu's firmware you can do NKRO over usb isnt that good enough?Thanx for infos!I really want to support this project.
But the lack of a red switch option is really dissuading me. :(
TheProfosist has red switches you can buy, and can assemble the whole thing for you for $40, read the first few posts in this thread:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39263.0
All problems are solved to my minimum level of satisfaction except for the PS/2. I am still waiting on my $200.00 bribe to take its effect.
Also a teensy will never be compatible with PS/2:(
I just talked with Massdrop via live chat.thanks man, so what we need to find feet? GB anyone?
They have ordered an aluminium case sample on Monday.
This sample is expected to arrive on Thursday or Friday! I was assured that they will upload pictures right away as soon as they have it.
Also, it will be available for both classic and full hand version.
Case feet are not included in the buy.
What I wondered since the start: what do we need the feet for? :)for those people who dont like flat keyboards...
I think the fullhand would be imminently practical (given how hard it would be to find a wristrest that fits that bend).
I'm just waiting for pics of the aluminum case before I put in my order.same
yep and..... i think i like itShow Image(https://s3.amazonaws.com/massdropinc/product-images/massdrop-product-ergodox-au3.jpeg)
yep and..... i think i like it(http://i48.tinypic.com/9amxhi.jpg)Show Image(https://s3.amazonaws.com/massdropinc/product-images/massdrop-product-ergodox-au3.jpeg)
It's weird; I'm completely hating that alu case, and I think the acrylic looks a lot cooler. My brain must be broken.Nah, I agree, they could've done a much better job at it. First, the surface looks kinda messy (some might like it though), the black screws don't match with it and the side... oh god, what a horror... it looks like you just put some keycaps on layers of aluminium plate. I guess my expectations were too high. Maybe I'll make one myself, I have connections to the technical institute around here with all kinds of industrial machines. :cool:
It's weird; I'm completely hating that alu case, and I think the acrylic looks a lot cooler. My brain must be broken.
they could've done a much better job at it.
The last part is the real problem. If you want quality work, you need time.they could've done a much better job at it.
Let's not go nuts: I'm not drinking the kool-aid or anything, but consider that a) they didn't make the designs, b) they're not doing the machining, and c) they did this aluminum mid-flight during the buy and essentially had almost no time whatsoever to iterate on it.
E-peen effect. I should write a masters dissertation about it.
yea i wiish i could get a full hand alu and a half acryliicE-peen effect. I should write a masters dissertation about it.
Good idea!
But after careful consideration, I want something that is more easy to tranpsport and dat clear...reminds me of the clear gameboys.
I think the clear acrylic makes it look way less massive.megh probably half the weight
What?my spelling strikes again BTW i just love the solid feel of ALU
Alu classic FTW! Now where to find/ make two mini wrist rests...
never did like the 3m gel wrist rests. the height isn't exact. I'm planning to get the classic and try to chop up my grifiti block of neoprene to fit the bends exactly. my only problem is how to get a clean cut; never tried slicing neoprene before.
i changed my order from 1 to 2.
X-Acto blades. fresh un-used. Don't try to cut the entire thickness in one shot. You do it like a surgeon, one layer at a time.
It has been done! Lowest tier reached :D
problem is it seems to be one single layer :D but thanks for the advice, I'll try the X-actos and do it carefully.
I've been going back and forth between aluminum and acrylic. How careful would a person need to be with the acrylic case? Would it be fragile, or would I just need to avoid smashing it with hammers? Would it become more brittle over time?your smashing your ergodox with hammers?
Thanks for any help people can provide; I know basically nothing about plastics.
You don't? :PI've been going back and forth between aluminum and acrylic. How careful would a person need to be with the acrylic case? Would it be fragile, or would I just need to avoid smashing it with hammers? Would it become more brittle over time?your smashing your ergodox with hammers?
Thanks for any help people can provide; I know basically nothing about plastics.
my keyboards are treated with so much love and care its crazy.You don't? :PI've been going back and forth between aluminum and acrylic. How careful would a person need to be with the acrylic case? Would it be fragile, or would I just need to avoid smashing it with hammers? Would it become more brittle over time?your smashing your ergodox with hammers?
Thanks for any help people can provide; I know basically nothing about plastics.
I just had a quick chat with the Massdrop guys (Nelson, he assembled the two prototype keyboards).
The aluminium case really seems to have quite some weight. For transportation, the acrylic case is definitely more appropriate.
But he also said to look out for contact with other hard objects, because the acrylic case might get scratched.
He said the acrylic one had to be handled with more care, better in a case for transportation.
Also, the aluminium isn't that shiny, he said. And of course raw, so that there could be applied a finish.
("Anodizing, powdercoating, polished or brushed")
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(motioning to Dade)
Crash...
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One of my favorite movies!Hackers? Bahahaha one of my favorites also.QuoteCEREAL
Whoa, whowhowhowhoa.
(motioning to Dade)
Crash...
(motioning to Kate)
and Burn!
Cereal breaks into hysterics.
I might have gotten an alu case for it if I could anodize it easily too, but I'm lazy and sort of like to be able to see components through plastic. Makes me think of the laptop the main character in Hackers gets.
So they're doing a blank PBT set from SP for it?
Are ergoDox switch switchable without desoldering?Yes, due mainly to the phantom-like plate design.
We’ll do everything possible to make the fulfillment go quickly. However, there is a global shortage of Cherry MX switches right now and as such, it might take a significant amount of time to receive all the switches in our order. Those customers who ordered first will be given priority in the case of a shortage.
Yeah, that's one reason more for me to get the switches separately.and then yiou can hunt down some PCB mount ones
Yeah, that's one reason more for me to get the switches separately.and then yiou can hunt down some PCB mount ones
I will probably also build only one keyboard at first (full hand). If I like it, I will probably sell the classic one. If not, I will try the classis one too.
I will probably also build only one keyboard at first (full hand). If I like it, I will probably sell the classic one. If not, I will try the classis one too.
That's exactly what I'm doing, but in reverse. I'm starting with the classic case - with the full hand on standby.
Are ergoDox switch switchable without desoldering?Yes, due mainly to the phantom-like plate design.
I still need to order mine.
How does one order 2 keyboards with different cases? When I select 2 in quantity, the form doesn't allow choosing a different case for each.I asked this question to Massdrop Will. He told me to order 1 pc at a time. Then you can customise each to your liking. I did that to my orders (2 complete kits)
I have a question. I am in on this group buy already but I want to try one and then, if I like it, pick up another two in the next group buy. Do you think there will be another group buy after this one?
I have a question. I am in on this group buy already but I want to try one and then, if I like it, pick up another two in the next group buy. Do you think there will be another group buy after this one?
I believe they'll roll another one if they can get 50 units.
Ideally all needed files/pointers should go to ergodox.org .... we need a way for anyone, any time in the future, to be able to give a file to a PCB company and another file to a machine shop, and get PCBs and cases easily (even though it will be expensive).Why would it be? Shouldn't you be able to get it printed at a local tech university for almost no cost at all? It costs around 15$ to do one side here.
I thought that was the point of the ergodox.org website, but it seems whoever has the keys to that isn't updating it. They haven't even posted up the MD buy.
Well, I just bought one. Hope that it passes trough the customs officers without attracting much attention.
Really? Got rid of my reds fast as I could... just sayin :)same
Well, I just bought one. Hope that it passes trough the customs officers without attracting much attention.
Same here. But I guess with my luck of purchasing keyboards from the USA, I will have to pay customs.
My last purchase was a new Kinesis Advantage, send from a member from this board, which until today hasn't arrived (after more than 6 months). :(
I finally just got around to purchasing one.Count me in! So need to buy extra teensy and other parts?
I think I'll build up another one as just a LH for gaming/half keyboard use if someone wants to split a case or something.
nope its all in the kitI finally just got around to purchasing one.Count me in! So need to buy extra teensy and other parts?
I think I'll build up another one as just a LH for gaming/half keyboard use if someone wants to split a case or something.
But I thought dorkvader want to use as 1 hand only. Mean buy 1 complete kit. Split to 2 X 1 handed. I know the PCB are identical. But in order to split. I need 2 teensy, 2 mini USB plug, 2X MCP23018 I/O expander and etc right?nope its all in the kitI finally just got around to purchasing one.Count me in! So need to buy extra teensy and other parts?
I think I'll build up another one as just a LH for gaming/half keyboard use if someone wants to split a case or something.
But I thought dorkvader want to use as 1 hand only. Mean buy 1 complete kit. Split to 2 X 1 handed. I know the PCB are identical. But in order to split. I need 2 teensy, 2 mini USB plug, 2X MCP23018 I/O expander and etc right?nope its all in the kitI finally just got around to purchasing one.Count me in! So need to buy extra teensy and other parts?
I think I'll build up another one as just a LH for gaming/half keyboard use if someone wants to split a case or something.
But I thought dorkvader want to use as 1 hand only. Mean buy 1 complete kit. Split to 2 X 1 handed. I know the PCB are identical. But in order to split. I need 2 teensy, 2 mini USB plug, 2X MCP23018 I/O expander and etc right?
To clear things up: here was my idea:Ah.. now I am cleared.
0. Buy a complete ergoDOX and build and use it.
1. Buy an extra PCB and an extra case
2. Use one of the extra Teensys I have
3. Use the extra switches and diodes I have
4. Make a 1H version without port expander, connector, anything. I'd use it for gaming and as a half keyboard.
5. Sell the other case plates to a Gh'er who wanted to do the same.
Problems for this:
1. The two sides of the case do not appear to be identical. Someone would have to slightly mod theirs
2. it's only half a keyboard
3. parts must be sourced from somewhere.
So I'm not splitting half an ergoDOX kit, I'm considering adding an extra PCB to my kit to build up a 1h version. I might just forego the case completely, but then I'd have to get PCB mount switches somewhere.
Hey guys if you cant or dont want to assemble my assembly service is now up on Massdrop :D if you have any questions let me know.
Hey guys if you cant or dont want to assemble my assembly service is now up on Massdrop :D if you have any questions let me know.
I got it from Sherry who got it from Korea and im using Krytox 205 for everything but clicky switchesHey guys if you cant or dont want to assemble my assembly service is now up on Massdrop :D if you have any questions let me know.
I have a question, where did you find the metal base for lubing cherry switces? Oh, and what kind of lubes do you use for switches?
I think 0.020 refers to inches, not mm. Yeah 0.020 is thin and good for surface mount soldering too, but for the ErgoDox which doesn't have SMD stuff, 0.031" is fine.oops yep .5mm :D
BTW, have you had any experience with lead free solder? I hear it's less hazardous to health but have never tried it... what's your advice?
o just so you know the FX-888 is now discontinued and replaced by the FX-888D so if you think youd prefer analogue buy one while their still availableYes, I had to sharpen my flush cutter (that I got for free on the roadside) and until I did, it was very annoying to use. Every year I ask for a good soldering station, so eventually I will buy one. I do too much DIY to get by with my $9 radioshack iron.
for a hand solder sucker get a soldapult
I no longer recommend that silver bearing solder get Kester 44 63/37 0.020 mm (allspec) or WBT 4% silver solder 0.020 mm (parts express)
dont forget to pick up a semi decent flush cutter and small needle nose pliers both are very handy for this stuff.
What is your target Solder Iron?o just so you know the FX-888 is now discontinued and replaced by the FX-888D so if you think youd prefer analogue buy one while their still availableYes, I had to sharpen my flush cutter (that I got for free on the roadside) and until I did, it was very annoying to use. Every year I ask for a good soldering station, so eventually I will buy one. I do too much DIY to get by with my $9 radioshack iron.
for a hand solder sucker get a soldapult
I no longer recommend that silver bearing solder get Kester 44 63/37 0.020 mm (allspec) or WBT 4% silver solder 0.020 mm (parts express)
dont forget to pick up a semi decent flush cutter and small needle nose pliers both are very handy for this stuff.
Argh. I want a pair of PCBs and build my own case.You have to ask them to add it, otherwise they won't. I guess they don't want to calculate the shipping costs for all the countries.
While the full kit is available in many countries, the PCB-only option is available only for US, Canada, UK, France and Germany.
Would it be difficult to add Sweden to that list? I live in the same city as bpiphany, who designed that PCB, for ****s sake ...
I was going to place an order for the keycaps on Massdropp (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/ergodox-keycap) and I was wondering when you put in your order is it enough keycaps for the full board or just half? I feel like this a dumb question but the image next to the quantity drop-down only shows half the board so I got confused.
Hey does anyone know how much it would cost to anodize the aluminum case in the US?
Final count is 204 sold, wow!all plates would need to be done I dont know how much it would be yet until I get a quote on one and the quotes go off surfacearea
Hey does anyone know how much it would cost to anodize the aluminum case in the US? Also, would all plates need to be anodized, or just the top and bottom ones ?
I saw that the other day as well... I asked Litster about it, and he said that his case files were open. Let me see if I can't find the post.
This is a true fact. I asked about the Phantom files and he did not want to give them to me. :(I saw that the other day as well... I asked Litster about it, and he said that his case files were open. Let me see if I can't find the post.
They are for the ergo-dox but not the phantom?
What is this? http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/index.php?mid=photo&document_srl=5920748That keyboard has staggered rows for regular ANSI layout + thumb keys. Not ErgoDox.
What is this? http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/index.php?mid=photo&document_srl=5920748That keyboard has staggered rows for regular ANSI layout + thumb keys. Not ErgoDox.
Hey guys, those keys on the Side they're 2x yea? not 1.5x
Well, they said to me they would only be putting together the components that required soldering, the rest would be diy. That's not everything, but that leaves programming the teensy and putting the case together?
Answer from Massdrop: "I was getting some products confused when I was talking to another customer. The Ergodox won't arrive soldered; no worries!"Phew, I was really worried for a second. :D
So relax, people :)
Anyone know when will the massdrop groupbuy gets rolling again?
I have been holding off other purchases for ergodox, and the wait is killing me.
best to contact massdrop about this. first round hasn't completed yet, so anyone's guess is as good as any. Or wait for the secondhand market. I imagine there might be a few people letting go of theirs after trying one. Not slamming on the design, but custom layouts aren't everyone's choice of poison.
They have started to be shipped out!
Anyone know if the diodes will be DIY or factory assembled?
Me. I did a kittle through hole and little smd. Smd is a lot faster
any one gotten this fully built yet? with pics?
This one is a great finds thread other is making stuff together.Is there a point of having two?
Hey,
I am not sure what is the difference between classic and full hand keyboard cases. Also what are the difference between different types of switches.?
So I've been reading about this keyboard and I'm interested in getting one.I don't think the GB's are that far apart, but then I've learned to be patient in the world of keyboards.
It looks like a group buy on Massdrop just ended a few days ago. From the looks of things it seems like a long time inbetween these purchases become available.
Am I going to have to wait months for another group buy to start?
Alternatively, can I just buy the PCB and case somewhere? All of the other parts are easily obtainable and (besides the switches) pretty cheap.
I'm sure most of you are aware, but in case you aren't Massdrop is having another Ergodox group buy!
I already joined, but I had a few questions I hope someone here could answer. To my understanding there are holes cut for stabilizers, but 1 of the two 2x thumb keys aren't in the right place. I can't stand wobbly keys, so I'm going to have to find a way to get a stabilizer in there.
My question is: What kind of stabilizers do you use in the Ergodox, and what modifications do you need to make in order to get them into the case?
How do you join the group buy? Is it just for the kits or can you order a pre-assembled keyboard?The Group buy is for the DIY kit, but massdrop has recently added an assembly option, where they'll put it together for you. I don't know much about it though. There are several GH'ers (including myself) who are willing to assemble one for you.
Can you get standard qwerty key caps?
I checked out their website and I see for $50 they will assemble it for you but their customer
service said they don't deal in the actual keyboard parts i.e. the key caps.
I'm sure most of you are aware, but in case you aren't Massdrop is having another Ergodox group buy!
I already joined, but I had a few questions I hope someone here could answer. To my understanding there are holes cut for stabilizers, but 1 of the two 2x thumb keys aren't in the right place. I can't stand wobbly keys, so I'm going to have to find a way to get a stabilizer in there.
My question is: What kind of stabilizers do you use in the Ergodox, and what modifications do you need to make in order to get them into the case?
none of the stabilizers will fit and hold. cherry stabs (both pcb and plate mounted) are too thick to even fit into the plate cutouts. Costar stabs on the other had, can fit into the cutout, but the acrylic plate is too thick for it to catch and hold on. It'll pop out unless you do something like superglue it in, which I wouldn't advise, as one cutout's position is wrong (the key with the wrong stab will be stuck and won't return after you press it down. and if the stab was superglued into the plate, you're basically screwed.)
2x keys are fine without stabs imo, but if you insist, your best best would probably be to find a way to build your ergodox plateless, and use pcb mounted stabs instead. (be aware that this might or might not work out in the end as I recall the designer of the pcb saying that the pcb cutouts were wrong on the pcb itself for that 2x key. if the stab wires still end up jamming each other, all that work would be for nothing).
tldr, forget about stabs unless you're prepared to experiment and probably fail alot. hope this helps.
Anyone know whether the switches are plate mounted or pcb mounted? I already have a pile of plate mounted switches here...
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The stabilizers will go in, but cannot clip due to the thickness of the plate.
So can one use his plate mounted switches with the ergo dox? Or has one to buy/desolder PCB switches?
Anyone know whether the switches are plate mounted or pcb mounted? I already have a pile of plate mounted switches here...
[)amien
Both.
The kits come with a mounting plate as part of the case, but the PCB has holes for PCB mounting. I'll be making one later with pcb mount switches and no case. Massdrop gives you plate mount switches in the kit.
OK, I'm totally new to this (got my first mechanical like a week ago).you will need to program it as well. Here is a link to where you can do that
If I were to join this mass drop, what parts are actually missing for a working keyboard?
keycaps? Anything else?
EDIT: nm - looks like I can buy PBT keycaps with the kit - I just need a solder and some wire (found the instructions)
If I don't join this MD GB, how long will I have to wait before the next ergodox drop? I want one, but I haven't tried my hand at soldering yet.
Okey, so I have honestly not read this whole thread right now.. But an ergodox kit for 200 bucks.. ain't that an extremely good deal? I'm seriously considering buying it right nowI would say so, lots of people agree. There are usually a few hundred participants.
Okey, so I have honestly not read this whole thread right now.. But an ergodox kit for 200 bucks.. ain't that an extremely good deal? I'm seriously considering buying it right nowI would say so, lots of people agree. There are usually a few hundred participants.
You can make it for less if you supply your own case, though. Or go caseless (it's possible)
Okey, so I have honestly not read this whole thread right now.. But an ergodox kit for 200 bucks.. ain't that an extremely good deal? I'm seriously considering buying it right now
Can use regular keycaps on an ErgoDox or do they use proprietary heights?
Can use regular keycaps on an ErgoDox or do they use proprietary heights?
regular caps work, but traditional 104 sets won't cover everything
I'm not sure what you mean by "proprietary heights" but you can put whatever keycaps you want to. Whatever feels best. I use a flat profile, but some prefer sculpted. I think one guy even put kinesis keycaps on his. If there's any proprietary height, that's it!What I meant was how regular mechanical keyboard keycaps have different heights per row and if using these on the ErgoDox feels natural or if there's some sort of "ErgoDox only" keycaps, but it seems it's not the case. Thanks!
One of the good parts about DIY is that you can pretty much do whatever.
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Keep in mind you'll need a lot of 1.5 unit keys or you'll have small gaps. A "normal" keyset only provides 9 (the 7 modifiers as well as tab and the key above enter) and the ergodox needs 12 (I think). I don't mind the gap.