A Handarbeit set would be sweet!I'm glad we share the same thought on this topic haha
Put that on a keyboard on your desk at work and your co-workers will really think you lost your mind 8)
Also feel free to talk about specific key size needs, languages and other topics. I will get a poll up soon, and where possible photos of the suggested choices.
Also feel free to talk about specific key size needs, languages and other topics. I will get a poll up soon, and where possible photos of the suggested choices.ANSI G80-3000 layout of course but if other language/layout needs help i would be willing to help and order, of course in the end MOQ is the main question for those other language/layout. I dont think ANSI will be an issue
Certainly a possibility, or go with clear first shots for the lock keys.Really pushing for those clear legends huh lysol? :P
How about a windowed keys pack? :D
I don't really mind the windowed keys, just that pad print legend is no where near as durable, so I see that as a bit of a con. More just reminding that clear first shot is an alternative.
Lysol educate me abouth the GB from GMK, here are my questions:
1. Will they fit most commonly used boards by all, Filco,CM,Rosewills.... you know boards with Costar stabilizers, or we will have to have a separate GB later on with SP to make matching Color and legends of the Moogle kit?
2. GMK will only make DS right?
3. Original Cherry legends I presume?
4. Same quality of thick ABS DS like Cherry boards?
these?
http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/cherry-mx-keycap-stabilizer-insert.html
http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/cherry-mx-plate-mounted-stabilizer-clips-2pcs.html
Triumph adler and Skidata would be dope.
Triumph adler #1Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/3dJxD.jpg)
Edit: I would acctually dont mind buying a few different sets.
If you make a GB with dolch, triumph adler, skidata, olivetti and something else, I would probably buy all of them.
Everyone does know that the triumph adler keyboard is that colour because its faded right? not to say the faded colour isnt nice, the original colour is very close to Olivetti's blue
SOURCE: SixtyShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/paGrI.jpg)
Goal: 2 full sets, 2 special packs each buy, do a new buy every quarter.
Goal: 2 full sets, 2 special packs each buy, do a new buy every quarter.
Yes, listed on form in same order as listed in OP, for ease of reference.
hey lysol, have you got any price quote from GMK for full set?
Just for my personnal information, what is GMK?
Will these be pbt or abs? Cherry profile or not?
Sorry for n00bs questions ;D
In the different packs, does "SF" mean swedish-finnish?I thought it was my pack? ;) I would assume that's what it meant, but I await Lysol's final word.
SF is Swedish Finnish yes, I used Cherry language codes sorry.in that case it seems like it'd be better to do rare keys rather than anything more common (standard cherry and dolch) since that's about the going rate for those sets at NOS prices.
GMK keys are basically identical to vintage Cherry doubleshots. Same molds. Anything made that you see pictured in OP will be identical.
Can't get quote until we know what we are doing. They price based on specifics. Rough guestimate somewhere between $80 - 130 for a complete proposed set depending on options and MOQ.
In the different packs, does "SF" mean swedish-finnish?I thought it was my pack? ;) I would assume that's what it meant, but I await Lysol's final word.
SF is Swedish Finnish yes, I used Cherry language codes sorry.in that case it seems like it'd be better to do rare keys rather than anything more common (standard cherry and dolch) since that's about the going rate for those sets at NOS prices.
GMK keys are basically identical to vintage Cherry doubleshots. Same molds. Anything made that you see pictured in OP will be identical.
Can't get quote until we know what we are doing. They price based on specifics. Rough guestimate somewhere between $80 - 130 for a complete proposed set depending on options and MOQ.
Glad somebody remembers that I don't like SF much:)In the different packs, does "SF" mean swedish-finnish?I thought it was my pack? ;) I would assume that's what it meant, but I await Lysol's final word.
We all know you are SmallFry, not SF, so of course it's not your pack! :)
Aka multi colour and coffee n cream :D
Aka multi colour and coffee n cream :D
coffee and cream sure. amiga > multicolor.
you must draw attention to yourself. don't let a keyboard do that for you or you're boring.
My keyboards stays at home what does that say?Aka multi colour and coffee n cream :D
coffee and cream sure. amiga > multicolor.
you must draw attention to yourself. don't let a keyboard do that for you or you're boring.
What is your secondary language layout?
Other: American
Quote from: Da_Silly_PollWhat is your secondary language layout?Quote from: kmiller8Other: American
I'm not bilingual :s
I'm sure you can speak English UK, aka ISO
I'm sure you can speak English UK, aka ISO
I don't understand how to work that gigantic enter.
olivetti, triumph-adler (preferably the muted blue-green ones with matching mods but the lime green is nice too), coffee/cream and amiga!!
it would be nice to see some tasteful sets before silly additions like rainbow,rgb, skidata
Ok, so let me put it like this... if someone was going to give you a FREE set of doubleshots, and it can be anything besides US, what do you pick?
I don't understand how to work that gigantic enter.
I think it's even smaller, if you use your pinky on enter, it is farther away on the asdf row :D
Ok, so let me put it like this... if someone was going to give you a FREE set of doubleshots, and it can be anything besides US, what do you pick?UK
If voting ended now... (it's not) Dolch and TA sets would win, and the only languages that would be offered would be US/GB/DE/ES/SF (listed in order of popularity) based on voting percentages.
If voting ended now... (it's not) Dolch and TA sets would win, and the only languages that would be offered would be US/GB/DE/ES/SF (listed in order of popularity) based on voting percentages.
If voting ended now... (it's not) Dolch and TA sets would win, and the only languages that would be offered would be US/GB/DE/ES/SF (listed in order of popularity) based on voting percentages.
Sets will be modular. So you would buy BASE, a MOD PACK, and a PACK # to fill out the rest of your language keys. If one wanted they could buy whichever color they wanted from each of those 3 kits to build a full set. So if Dolch and Skidata won, you could do that. Or if you already had a Dolch set, you could just buy a set of Skidata mod pack.
All set will come with Alt AND Alt Gr as default as pretty much everything but US ANSI uses it. All the current proposed keys are listed in post 2.
I have!Sounds good!~
Since Cherry space use the off centered stem, will GMK need to make a new mold if Filco owners want to use these spacebars?That would be my guess, yes
yikes :PMy keyboards stays at home what does that say?Aka multi colour and coffee n cream :D
coffee and cream sure. amiga > multicolor.
you must draw attention to yourself. don't let a keyboard do that for you or you're boring.
Colours are pretty awesome!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/VDVjd.jpg)
I wouldn't hold high hope for Leopold spacebar compatibility.
EliteKeyboards already sells a 1.3mm thick ABS spacebar for the Leopold FC200R for 4 bucks.
Do the F & J keys necessarily have to be scoops? 'Cause if possible I'd prefer a raised dot in the middle of the key.
Do the F & J keys necessarily have to be scoops? 'Cause if possible I'd prefer a raised dot in the middle of the key.
I think they will be scoops, as this is what the majority wants right now.
I want all scoops :DDo the F & J keys necessarily have to be scoops? 'Cause if possible I'd prefer a raised dot in the middle of the key.
I think they will be scoops, as this is what the majority wants right now.
scoops scoops :cool: :cool:
Colemak Dolch set :-*
On the scoops vs dots debate, I'm still a fan of bars in terms of functionality. They are the easiest to identify whereas scoops are more subtle.
SF is Swedish Finnish yes, I used Cherry language codes sorry.
GMK keys are basically identical to vintage Cherry doubleshots. Same molds. Anything made that you see pictured in OP will be identical.
Can't get quote until we know what we are doing. They price based on specifics. Rough guestimate somewhere between $80 - 130 for a complete proposed set depending on options and MOQ.
unknown coffee on creamShow Image(http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp349/lysol8086/e617bd37.jpg)
skidata and dolch are the clearly the best sets.
I wish there was an option for a combination of Dolch and Skidata. Dolch colorway with orange Skidata legends.
I have a hard time imagining this set on a more modern keyboard. Think of this set on a kmac, filco, poker or whatever, it would just look like really yellowed keys.
With a bit of careful stitching, I could have a case and keys to match my watch strap :p
I think the combination is just about perfect - don't get me wrong, each and every one (almost [I'm looking at you unicorn vomit]) are gorgeous - but coffee and cream, it's like manna from the gods!
Can we just cut the discussion short and settle on Dolch already :P
Can we just cut the discussion short and settle on Dolch already :P
Ok, I'll expand a bit, it'll go perfectly with my chocolate leather watch strap which has natural linen (waxed) stitching. And it wouldn't be very difficult to stitch up, a chocolate (or coffee, whatever's your poison) carrying case for a 60% board or even stitch and glue on a leather outer to hide the institutional blank plastic.That, now please show me your watch strap.
Yes, I'm a man who can sew.
The large amounts of rich dark leather, with the lesser quantity of light, off-white, stitching, contrasting with the cream or mostly off-white if you prefer keys with their lesser amount of coffee.
Ok, I'll expand a bit, it'll go perfectly with my chocolate leather watch strap which has natural linen (waxed) stitching. And it wouldn't be very difficult to stitch up, a chocolate (or coffee, whatever's your poison) carrying case for a 60% board or even stitch and glue on a leather outer to hide the institutional blank plastic.
Yes, I'm a man who can sew.
The large amounts of rich dark leather, with the lesser quantity of light, off-white, stitching, contrasting with the cream or mostly off-white if you prefer keys with their lesser amount of coffee.
Handarbeit = handjob ROFL.Oh you! Making that set so attractive! :D
I love the coffee and cream keycaps (I may be biased since I love coffee though), but as people have mentioned earlier, I have a hard time seeing they'd fit on a modern board. Actually they could look quite alright on a beige Filco, but since I haven't seen one of these in person I can't say for sure. If we'd do a retro style custom keyboard run they could be the perfect match too... Hmm... I think I just outargued myself.Yay more Handarbeit love :)
My votes went towards Dolch and Handarbeit anyway! I've wanted a Dolch set for what feels like years so it was the natural choice (even though I don't think it'd be a good match on any of my current keyboards).
Handarbeit was more of an unexpected decision for me, since I'm not really fond of unicorn vomit keyboards in general, but both this set and tsangan's HHKB prove that colorful keycaps <> unicorn vomit. I could imagine dressing almost all of my keyboards up in Handarbeit sets, without them looking like crap afterwards. :)
Voted for US and SF in the languages section. Would've voted for Icelandic if there was an option for it, but there isn't. Don't think anyone else would've been interested in it though. :> GMK probably don't have the legends for Ð and Þ anyway, so. :Þ
All set will come with Alt AND Alt Gr as default as pretty much everything but US ANSI uses it. All the current proposed keys are listed in post 2.Just to clarify, so purchasing a US language pack would mean getting another set of matching Alts to complete the Alt pair on US ANSI, correct? And by any chance, are 1x Windows keys going to be an option?
Doesn't post 2 cover this. Have I missed something?All set will come with Alt AND Alt Gr as default as pretty much everything but US ANSI uses it. All the current proposed keys are listed in post 2.Just to clarify, so purchasing a US language pack would mean getting another set of matching Alts to complete the Alt pair on US ANSI, correct? And by any chance, are 1x Windows keys going to be an option?
Handarbeit = handjob ROFL.
Oh noes. Nobody likes the rainbow multicoloured bling super unicorn vomit set :(
Oh noes. Nobody likes the rainbow multicoloured bling super unicorn vomit set :(
This wizard does.
And I do enjoy the though of a caps/ctrl swap kit most definitely. Clear legends!!
There are many fans of the handarbiet, just not enough as of now. As we run various colorways it could always be possible to piece it together over time. We will already be having the white on purple mods pack, then when/if we run white on red most of it would be there.
There are many fans of the handarbiet, just not enough as of now. As we run various colorways it could always be possible to piece it together over time. We will already be having the white on purple mods pack, then when/if we run white on red most of it would be there.
After purple,red,white,green,blue we will have a full set! hah
2 things:
1. For the Handarbeit, if one complete set of each colour could be made, interested people will buy one of each set they like, and mix'n'match. And I'm not just saying that to get a full set of that very nice yellow ;)
2. For the Triumph Adler, a set of the bright (lime?) green like the backspace key would be sweet :)
I wouldn't buy like 7 sets to make that set, sounds kinda stupid to me
like I said before that set can be used to mix and match that's why it's so awesome where it doesn't have a "correct" colour layout
with that being said I do understand why people would like dolch and so on though so it's all good, if anything ill just run the GB myself
I wouldn't buy like 7 sets to make that set, sounds kinda stupid to me
like I said before that set can be used to mix and match that's why it's so awesome where it doesn't have a "correct" colour layout
with that being said I do understand why people would like dolch and so on though so it's all good, if anything ill just run the GB myself
I wouldn't buy like 7 sets to make that set, sounds kinda stupid to me
like I said before that set can be used to mix and match that's why it's so awesome where it doesn't have a "correct" colour layout
with that being said I do understand why people would like dolch and so on though so it's all good, if anything ill just run the GB myself
I would buy it.
For me Dolch is too mainstream and I don't see the point in getting something that is already available on the market. I don't actually understand why is getting all the votes right now :-X
I voted for:
1- Black on tan/warm white
2- White on multi color(Handerbeit)
I guess none of my options will happen :p
For me Dolch is too mainstream and I don't see the point in getting something that is already available on the market. I don't actually understand why is getting all the votes right now :-X
The thought of not having to use moogle kits turns me on.
tbh the set I would want the most is a black/white set but with super rounded keys that old terminals used to have... I think I saw one they do in there sample image that was floating about when all this first kicked offYes please! These would be great.
Yeah, I would also like to get a set of sphericals. I could go for some "Commodore 64" white on brown for those.
I think it will be hard enough to reach 300 moq on cylindrical Cherry we are discussing here. Let's please not even go into sphericals. I won't even go there, someone else can tackle that if they wish.
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I think it will be hard enough to reach 300 moq on cylindrical Cherry we are discussing here. Let's please not even go into sphericals. I won't even go there, someone else can tackle that if they wish.
SPH/TERMINAL | 11|157|sold out |$107|Terminal kit (120-126 keys)
SPH/STANDARD | 32|138|sold out |$100|Standard kit (101-104 keys)
SPH/STANDARD125 | 8|115|sold out | $80|Standard kit (104 keys)
SPH/TENKLESS | 30|108|sold out | $75|Tenkless kit ( 84- 87 keys)
SPH/TKL | 32| 93|sold out | $61|TKL kit (87 keys)
Can I purpose doing a RGB run in the first GB lysol? I'd love you for that and almost everybody will pick up a set.
1.5 mods is a must!
Hopefully the KBDmania won't be b!tches and will open their RGB groupbuy for outside Korea, if so there is no reason for us to do it too.with the recent events regarding GBs in Korea (OTD/KBDmania) I doubt there will be any GBs at all anytime soon
gojira, yes to all but possibly the spacebar. It is still unclear to me whether GMK has (or will have) 6.25 space with a center stem.
What happened recently? Just curious. :)Hopefully the KBDmania won't be b!tches and will open their RGB groupbuy for outside Korea, if so there is no reason for us to do it too.with the recent events regarding GBs in Korea (OTD/KBDmania) I doubt there will be any GBs at all anytime soon
gojira, yes to all but possibly the spacebar. It is still unclear to me whether GMK has (or will have) 6.25 space with a center stem.
yes on the centre stem 6.25x space
someone snitched on KBDmania which led to customs investigating all the GBs, turns out regardless if you make any money or not you have to report it so now the GB organizers owe a _large_ sum of money to the governmentOh boy :eek:
OTD and KBDmania are now both laying low
(ie the old GB threads are now missing, not running new GBs)
someone snitched on KBDmania which led to customs investigating all the GBs, turns out regardless if you make any money or not you have to report it so now the GB organizers owe a _large_ sum of money to the government
someone snitched on KBDmania which led to customs investigating all the GBs, turns out regardless if you make any money or not you have to report it so now the GB organizers owe a _large_ sum of money to the governmentwow. ouch :( Best of luck to getting that somehow sorted out :(
OTD and KBDmania are now both laying low
(ie the old GB threads are now missing, not running new GBs)
That's f'd up! Hope somehow it just passes over and they come out unscathed in the end.definitely not passing over sadly
Understood. Did GMK ever mention an ETA for when they will have a spot open to do full set runs?yes, GMK do mention an ETA, around apr/may 2013
You are the man for doing this
Pricing for 104 set with 400 MOQ €60 / $80.
Are you still leaving the white/beige and Olivetti options in this now that Originative have come out with these sets? Unfortunately they do not have the language packs, however.They haven't! They just doing a pre order (similar to a group buy, but with much higher profit ranges)
Are you still leaving the white/beige and Olivetti options in this now that Originative have come out with these sets? Unfortunately they do not have the language packs, however.They haven't! They just doing a pre order (similar to a group buy, but with much higher profit ranges)
It sucks that sherryton isnt contributing to groupbuys. It would be so much help. But no, its better one guy makes his profit and keep 30% of the community left out. Great show!
It sucks that sherryton isnt contributing to groupbuys. It would be so much help. But no, its better one guy makes his profit and keep 30% of the community left out. Great show!
How is he in any way stopping a group buy from happening?
I'm honestly surprised that the wack jobs here don't troll GMK themselves for making caps at a profit. Also I heard that Filco makes a profit on their boards. BOYCOTT!!!!!111one
It sucks that sherryton isnt contributing to groupbuys. It would be so much help. But no, its better one guy makes his profit and keep 30% of the community left out. Great show!
How is he in any way stopping a group buy from happening?
I'm honestly surprised that the wack jobs here don't troll GMK themselves for making caps at a profit. Also I heard that Filco makes a profit on their boards. BOYCOTT!!!!!111one
Be real though, the initial prices were... kind of rediculous IMO.
Cheers,
It sucks that sherryton isnt contributing to groupbuys. It would be so much help. But no, its better one guy makes his profit and keep 30% of the community left out. Great show!
How is he in any way stopping a group buy from happening?
I'm honestly surprised that the wack jobs here don't troll GMK themselves for making caps at a profit. Also I heard that Filco makes a profit on their boards. BOYCOTT!!!!!111one
You can exchange this word with whatever you prefer it means. It doesnt change my point.alright then, full derailment I guess. Here we go...
Be real though, the initial prices were... kind of rediculous IMO.
Cheers,
Be real though, the initial prices were... kind of rediculous IMO.
Cheers,
Really? I can get KBs from Costar identical to Filco TKLs for $50ea at MOQ levels... how much cheaper do you think Diatec pays for larger Q ? Are you trolling Diatec for that?
I wasn't trolling, good sir. My intentions were to give my opinion, not to stir others up or to flame. I think my definition of the word and yours are different.
Cheers,
You can exchange this word with whatever you prefer it means. It doesnt change my point.alright then, full derailment I guess. Here we go...
Anything that anyone has ever bought has profited someone. When the "community" buys pieces of plastic, GMK profits. Therefore, they profit at the cost of the community. They in turn bought plastic from some supplier, so they indirectly profited off of the "community". Same with shipping companies, banking companies, etc. If you add retail, there is one more step in the chain that takes profit. That cost pays for certain services and for risk. Sometimes someone decides to perform that service for cheap/free and pass the risk to the buyers. That is called a group buy and it will happen whether or not there is retail available.
That's the way the world works dude, and nobody in the "community" has any obligation whatsoever to buy pieces of plastic from one place or another. And the existence of a pile of plastic in one place does not have to have any implication for piles of plastic in another place. Do what you want and quit your *****ing. God, you're such a friggin hippie.
It sucks that sherryton isnt contributing to groupbuys. It would be so much help. But no, its better one guy makes his profit and keep 30% of the community left out. Great show!
quit *****ing and put up 30k of your own money then.
quit *****ing and put up 30k of your own money then.
How about a traditional groupbuy instead, like lysol is trying to arrange here? If someone wants to participate with 30k upfront he can do that as well within a GB.
because sherry did this before this was a thing? He paid and took the risk.quit *****ing and put up 30k of your own money then.
How about a traditional groupbuy instead, like lysol is trying to arrange here? If someone wants to participate with 30k upfront he can do that as well within a GB.
Go multicolour rainbow awesome!
Thanks for the update Lysol
Go multicolour rainbow awesome!
Thanks for the update Lysol
I saw a picture earlier in the classified section of granite/black set and it looks really nice. How about something like a granite set except instead of the granite blueish color have it be maroon/black set? I am just trying to suggest a new colorway. Also you can see the granite/black in nntnam's auction in classified for more pictures.
Yup pretty similar except what I would like is white on maroon instead of white on graphite. Just a suggestion.I saw a picture earlier in the classified section of granite/black set and it looks really nice. How about something like a granite set except instead of the granite blueish color have it be maroon/black set? I am just trying to suggest a new colorway. Also you can see the granite/black in nntnam's auction in classified for more pictures.
That's basically a Dolch set
You can vote again anytime, if you change your mind. I will clean up the multiple entries periodically and delete older votes from same voter. Please remember that there is 'honor system' and please don't make fake names to vote under is all I ask.
lysol, can you add this set to the IC. I bet we could get a 400 MOQ from it. Since Dolch should be off the table now...
lysol, can you add this set to the IC. I bet we could get a 400 MOQ from it. Since Dolch should be off the table now...
Not my pic, btw. Someone please claim credit for it. :)Show Image(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll41/Dark-Shot666/OCKCcharcoalmods.png)
Is there a confirmed Dolch set in production already?
Sure, what are we calling this SKIDolch? Dolch SkiData mash up seems fine with me.
Another one that seems that it might have a chance... industrial grey on black, for that stealth look, what do you think?
Purple or Pink on Gray/charcoal.
Some of them should be possible if there is demand, like 1.5 Esc or Del. What is special about Pure not covered? Definitely not going into any 2nd layer sh*t.
Modifier packs will be orderable separate in the modular way I want to offer things, but only plan to offer the winning color ways as of right now. So for example, if dolch wins and you already have a dolch set, you could buy only the mod pack if you wished. I think that dolch mods look sharp with black alphas as well, but thats my opinion.
That could be subject to change, depending on demand though. Could offer white on black mod pack as one of the special packs for example. I don't want to lock anything down quite yet to keep things fluid based on interest. Also this is only the first buy... so if things go well as I said earlier I want to roll another buy every quarter so if something doesn't happen this time we will revisit every non winning option next time.
1.75 shift is already a default key, no further discussion is required for that. Lots of bizarre keys are possible as long as they truly have every Cherry legend and keysize as they said they do that was ever used.
So more Dolch alike, but with X legend... eh, I think that is enough like that. More different things, get creative!!! I challenge you all to make a mock up that is fresh AND actually looks good. I will make this a mini contest, a prize will be involved from my personal Cherry keycap collection. Go!
Purple or Pink on Gray/charcoal.
FTFY :P
1.75 shift is already a default key, no further discussion is required for that. Lots of bizarre keys are possible as long as they truly have every Cherry legend and keysize as they said they do that was ever used.
So more Dolch alike, but with X legend... eh, I think that is enough like that. More different things, get creative!!! I challenge you all to make a mock up that is fresh AND actually looks good. I will make this a mini contest, a prize will be involved from my personal Cherry keycap collection. Go!
LOL. It was my idea Miami, so of course I would be down... but that even failed to get off the ground as a low volume SP buy... though getting the right colors wouldn't be such a problem with GMK.
Lets get this MIAMI thing going again! I'm in!!
Lets get this MIAMI thing going again! I'm in!!
I keep hearing about this "Miami" set. Anyone have a photo of what the heck it looks like?
Pure sex!
Pure sex!
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=30647
Mock ups seem to be gone, but there's a sample 'G'
I keep hearing about this "Miami" set. Anyone have a photo of what the heck it looks like?http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=30647.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=30647.0)
Needs moar pink!
I think it needs bright blue like this picture.Show Image(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/25/zymupupy.jpg)
Lets get this MIAMI thing going again! I'm in!!
I keep hearing about this "Miami" set. Anyone have a photo of what the heck it looks like?
Pure sex!
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=30647
Mock ups seem to be gone, but there's a sample 'G'
Ok used the colors right out of lysol's image and it looks much much better. A cherry/GMK version of this I would buy for sure now to make this bastard of an 1800 come true
(http://i.imgur.com/OtkOWuU.png) (http://i.imgur.com/OtkOWuU.png)
Lysol, what i'm using to make these exports very horrible SVG code, so it doesn't work well with anything else. I'm trying to clean it up though
Oh Miami on so many levels. The city, the show (Vice), the game (Hotline)... who isn't a fan of at least one if not all three?
Dol-dol-dol-ski-ski-ski..Dolski!
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/0uaxTjR.jpg)
kya~~~ :-*
Hey Flynn, what are your thoughts on profiles for the del/end/pgdn/insert/home/pgup cluster for the base set?
Current polling, trend on colorway took a big change. Dolch is still currently in the lead, but only just with SkiData and TA tied for 2nd by slim margins with handarbiet now in third. Language choice remains fairly steady with US, GB, DE and ES still in the majority in that order. SF and NO are likely to happen, FR is getting there, everything else is still up in the air.
Out of respect, I won't enter Toxic at this time unless danieluc tells me they want to switch to GMK and join up with us on this. If not, maybe we can run a GMK version at another time.
Coffee on cream has only 22 votes out of 250 entries. I don't think it will win this time.
Yea the grey of the Miami set really needs to go. It's holding it back!
Yea the grey of the Miami set really needs to go. It's holding it back!
I couldn't remember what the original mod keys look like, so I made it look how I thought best.
what color do you think would be better for the gray keys?
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ExxbVXr.png)
boom, knew i had that saved somewhere
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ExxbVXr.png)
boom, knew i had that saved somewhere
スゴイ!
here is the 1800 mock up too with the pink mod keys thenPerfect Flynn! That looks great!
(http://imgur.com/dIqM39U.png) (http://imgur.com/dIqM39U.png)
]Perfect Flynn! That looks great!
]Perfect Flynn! That looks great!
thank your girlshark lady friend for telling me how to fix it up :|
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Hl1JjED.png)
this is kind of what i'd imagined coffee & cream looking like, need a better render of that and to get it made ;00
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Hl1JjED.png)
this is kind of what i'd imagined coffee & cream looking like, need a better render of that and to get it made ;00
needs more of dat purp
Against my better judgement...
lime on purpleShow Image(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a258/supermanic/Keyboards/1limeonpurple.jpg)
That is hot.needs more of dat purp
midnight blue on purpleShow Image(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a258/supermanic/Keyboards/1midnightblueonpurple.jpg)
Late, I know, but just want to chip in and agree with this, though my 1800 needs the ISO flavour bits too.Hey Flynn, what are your thoughts on profiles for the del/end/pgdn/insert/home/pgup cluster for the base set?
I've said this before in other threads and maybe this one too.
I just want to push for the 3 keys that are absolutely necessary for an 1800 though, and are also useful to a number of other keyboards as well. That being the 1.75x right shift, a 1x 0 (zero) "B" profile and 1x - (minus) "D" profile
As much as i'd love to see every single key available in proper 1800 profile, I don't expect that to happen or other people to pay for it. If del/end/pgdn are in "D" profile instead of the "E" profile an 1800 needs, its not the end of the world as at least you have a usable set. And this profile requirement is unique to the 1800's
I think the more gray Coffee & Cream colors in asura's post look better though. so i'll re-do it later with the colors from asura's post
silly people who don't have their monitors color calibrated properly ^_6
also note that a 2d mock-up with certain colors doesn't necessarily appear the same way in person!!11one
silly people who don't have their monitors color calibrated properly ^_6
also note that a 2d mock-up with certain colors doesn't necessarily appear the same way in person!!11one
This. We need some sweet 3D models to get a better gauge of how it would look.
silly people who don't have their monitors color calibrated properly ^_6
also note that a 2d mock-up with certain colors doesn't necessarily appear the same way in person!!11one
This. We need some sweet 3D models to get a better gauge of how it would look.
"kaporkle" renders some pretty awesome mock ups... http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39239
I think the more gray Coffee & Cream colors in asura's post look better though. so i'll re-do it later with the colors from asura's post
yeah, i was having a hard time finding an appropriate color so i just kind of picked one since it was a rush job. you should remake it with the color from asura's post. :)
It's going to be hard to decide on a colour when we all have different monitors. :/Let's just all buy a 10-bit monitor and a graphics card capable of 10-bit output, and the problem is solved. Problem is most people here won't have $3000 to spend on a 10-bit workstation just for keyboard mockups.
I have the 10bit monitor bit and low end quadro card isnt too expensive...It's going to be hard to decide on a colour when we all have different monitors. :/Let's just all buy a 10-bit monitor and a graphics card capable of 10-bit output, and the problem is solved. Problem is most people here won't have $3000 to spend on a 10-bit workstation just for keyboard mockups.
Something I thought about just now is that maybe people are getting a bit too optimistic? Do we actually know what colours GMK are able to offer? A coffee and cream set we know would be possible, but as for some of the others, I don't think we do. :>
With that said, colour lovers: vote for Handarbeit!
I don't get the skidata demand. I mean I love that scheme, so I bought one. Why do we need a GB?
I don't get the skidata demand. I mean I love that scheme, so I bought one. Why do we need a GB?
I have the 10bit monitor bit and low end quadro card isnt too expensive...I was mostly joking, but now I'm interested; are the low end quadro cards any good? Would be nice to know when I buy a 10-bit monitor again (had a Dell U3011 for a while, but wasn't really content with it because of problems with colour uniformity).
I don't get the skidata demand. I mean I love that scheme, so I bought one. Why do we need a GB?I also bought one, but a brand new set from GMK for 80€ seems better than a quite heavily used one for 80€ in my opinion. Of course you get an alright keyboard with it, but if you're only buying it for the keycaps... (One should note I didn't buy mine only for the keycaps, since I mostly use ANSI.)
I have the 10bit monitor bit and low end quadro card isnt too expensive...I was mostly joking, but now I'm interested; are the low end quadro cards any good? Would be nice to know when I buy a 10-bit monitor again (had a Dell U3011 for a while, but wasn't really content with it because of problems with colour uniformity).I don't get the skidata demand. I mean I love that scheme, so I bought one. Why do we need a GB?I also bought one, but a brand new set from GMK for 80€ seems better than a quite heavily used one for 80€ in my opinion. Of course you get an alright keyboard with it, but if you're only buying it for the keycaps... (One should note I didn't buy mine only for the keycaps, since I mostly use ANSI.)
I don't think there's enough left on ebay for everyone who wants one to get one. Plus the only ones left are in Nordic ISO.
With that said, colour lovers: vote for Handarbeit!
I don't think there's enough left on ebay for everyone who wants one to get one. Plus the only ones left are in Nordic ISO.
Isn't it DE ISO that is left? I don't see any Nordic.
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kya~~~ :-*
lysol, can you add this set to the IC. I bet we could get a 400 MOQ from it. Since Dolch should be off the table now...
Not my pic, btw. Someone please claim credit for it. :)Show Image(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll41/Dark-Shot666/OCKCcharcoalmods.png)
Let's just all buy a 10-bit monitor and a graphics card capable of 10-bit output, and the problem is solved.
and the first C&C layout looks closer to what I know it should be than the version done with my colours.
I may have another play this evening to see if I can come up with anything else I like.
Current polling, trend on colorway took a big change. Dolch is still currently in the lead, but only just with SkiData and TA tied for 2nd by slim margins with handarbiet now in third. Language choice remains fairly steady with US, GB, DE and ES still in the majority in that order. SF and NO are likely to happen, FR is getting there, everything else is still up in the air.Things are staying pretty steady, it's still as above with 250 votes after cleaning up multiple votes from same voter name (I only kept the most recent time stamp vote). With that many votes as long as there is follow through with actual orders I really think we can do it.
Olivetti blue on white/grey. ;D~~Doubt that will be a choice anymore. You can get that at Originative store =)
Olivetti blue on white/grey. ;D~~Doubt that will be a choice anymore. You can get that at Originative store =)
wow would love to see this Handarbeit set happen, thick ABS DS mhmhmh!!!! but I'm really doubtfull that it will happenWith that said, colour lovers: vote for Handarbeit!
Ok here's Handarbeit:
(http://i.imgur.com/2xM2MzB.png) (http://i.imgur.com/2xM2MzB.png)
was just messing around so the colors aren't really accurate and had to guess on a couple of them due to the original being DE ISO layout.
it looks even stranger on 1800 layout with how the the clusters are different than a 3000 :-\
A few things about the color assignment bug me, I think I would root more for handarbiet if it was more logical, uniform and less haphazard. Space should be alpha color, all the mods should be the same color, except maybe enter which should both be the same color, all the F row should be same, nav cluster same, arrows same... I would like it better.
A few things about the color assignment bug me, I think I would root more for handarbiet if it was more logical, uniform and less haphazard. Space should be alpha color, all the mods should be the same color, except maybe enter which should both be the same color, all the F row should be same, nav cluster same, arrows same... I would like it better.
Yeah... are people actually liking the random unicorn vomit?
A few things about the color assignment bug me, I think I would root more for handarbiet if it was more logical, uniform and less haphazard. Space should be alpha color, all the mods should be the same color, except maybe enter which should both be the same color, all the F row should be same, nav cluster same, arrows same... I would like it better.Even though i do agree with you, i think it's intentional..to be like real 'handmade' in a sense of a grandma self-knit jersey.
A few things about the color assignment bug me, I think I would root more for handarbiet if it was more logical, uniform and less haphazard. Space should be alpha color, all the mods should be the same color, except maybe enter which should both be the same color, all the F row should be same, nav cluster same, arrows same... I would like it better.I think there are some uniform to the madness, at first I thought the same way also when I first saw it but after staring it it for quite some time I think that there is something there though yes it can be argued that some of the colours are wacky but that's the charm this set has, its unique where it doesn't follow complete uniform structure.
A few things about the color assignment bug me, I think I would root more for handarbiet if it was more logical, uniform and less haphazard. Space should be alpha color, all the mods should be the same color, except maybe enter which should both be the same color, all the F row should be same, nav cluster same, arrows same... I would like it better.I think there are some uniform to the madness, at first I thought the same way also when I first saw it but after staring it it for quite some time I think that there is something there though yes it can be argued that some of the colours are wacky but that's the charm this set has, its unique where it doesn't follow complete uniform structure.
I would be in for 3+ on this set for sure if it does flourish I would most likely only use one set and the other sets i would break apart and use part of it on another set and so forth
This picture is edited from Origantiveco's two-tone beige keycapShow Image(http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/9878/capturehkn.png)
The Tab legend is off.
Not sure about any of you, but I hate it.
I think GMK owes Sherryton about 400 corrected Tab keys...^ this.
I also noticed that Tab. Personally, I think it's kind of "fresh", but... It's ugly.
Something else that bothered me was that the Print Screen key says "Print Screen" instead of "Prt Sc", and that neither this nor the Pause key have the secondary legends. Not really as disturbing as the Tab legend though. :) (Also, Pause and Scroll Lock are in the wrong place, but that's something else)Show Image(http://puu.sh/1VpCg)
Hey lysol do you know if full sets will be ABCDEF or BBCCDE? Or will you be able to specify?
Dolch and SKIData tied... should we just go for the DolSKI mash up and call it a day?Absolutely
Dolch and SKIData tied... should we just go for the DolSKI mash up and call it a day?
I actually would like to buy a dolch set and a skidata set separately...
ANSI MOTHER****ER. DO YOU SPEAK IT?
Exactly this. We have such a great opportunity to do new things, and we're going to just let that go? If you want one of those sets, like jd said, there are places to find them. It's not like this is a quick and easy thing to do. We've been sitting on this topic for months, with an estimated many more months before we may actually receive anything. Let's do something fresh, people.I actually would like to buy a dolch set and a skidata set separately...
eBay?
We should do something you can't get on the open market. Plus, I think at least one vendor is planning to do Dolch redux anyway.
I actually would like to buy a dolch set and a skidata set separately...
eBay?
We should do something you can't get on the open market. Plus, I think at least one vendor is planning to do Dolch redux anyway.
Although you can get Dolch on Ebay etc for Ansi getting an ISO set is really hard (unless someone can help!) and so I think the best chances of getting one is something like this group buy.
We lose half the orders to people who want their sets NAO for a slightly higher price, and we can't make the MOQ due to the lost orders.
How do you feel if that happens? Would we have to pick another colorway and open the GB for longer to collect more orders?
I don't think that was jdcarpe's point. From the very beginning lysol said they reached out to vendors to see what colors were they planning to buy in bulk so we don't get the same thing (general consensus is variety is better). But that's a no go.We lose half the orders to people who want their sets NAO for a slightly higher price, and we can't make the MOQ due to the lost orders.
How do you feel if that happens? Would we have to pick another colorway and open the GB for longer to collect more orders?
In that case I feel that this is no more a community but a not-so-good shop
If we don't care to support the efforts of the other members there's no membership
Step ye into the light oracle! Bathe us with thy knowledge!
It was already done the font is not correct but it is good enough for now, see the OP?
Should I add 3rd and 4th place options back too? Or is what I already have good enough?
if curios those options would be white on black and handarbeit respectively.
It was already done the font is not correct but it is good enough for now, see the OP?
Should I add 3rd and 4th place options back too? Or is what I already have good enough?
if curios those options would be white on black and handarbeit respectively.
^ They did. And that person let us know. And everyone ignored it. :-\
How about the rest of the people who were in the know about GMK and decided to troll our interest check threads with concerns about GMK's production capability, timelines, etc.? Some people have known about GMK a long time before the company name was ever even introduced to me. A certain someone in mid-2012 said to me (and I'm paraphrasing) to sell off all my doubleshots because a new company has acquired the tooling. The first sets would be beige doubleshots and Dolch following that. Now, I don't want to "reveal" any secrets, but chances are we will see Dolch sets fairly soon.
That person also told me that if I ever spoke a word about it, they would know that it was me (which btw I kept my promise). I'm sure that person shared the information amongst the l33t west coast, and thus began the journey of GMK production, hidden away from GH. I can go diving through my PM's and gchats for exact communications and of course, reveal the mystery at hand. And of course, I can continue speculating with my crazy theories but I'll leave that for my other post.
I can try to find it, but it will require some digging.
aaah that windows key hurts!
aaah that windows key hurts!
lol... your pain is certainly understandable (although personally I kinda like the win8 logo). Anywho, the windows 8 style logo was already there for me to use in lysol's set so that's what I went with. Find me something more you like better (and maybe some arrows and the other missing graphics while you're at it) and I'll see if I can get around to posting updated mockups.
I think all of those mockups are highly deceiving. I cast my vote for dolski based on some actual caps that had the skidata orange on a lighter grey and found it perfect. (havent saved the pic, i'm afraid).
I always thought skidata's charcoal was too near to black. The contrast should be just as good on a dolch grey as on the original.
By the way, what is the current status of the vote? Who is winning? :)
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35642.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35642.0)
there's the set i was referring to, i think that's about dolski (the lighter grey part);
Sigh...how is Dolch winning? Have had enough of those GBs in the past, how many more do we need, people?
All those were fake ones though... :p
Cherry never made a doubleshot Windows key. So actually GMK has added some of thier own.
The plastic colors will be a bit different but that would be the basic look of it.
Ivan Ivanovich was the name originally given to a mannequin used in testing the Russian Vostok spacecraft in preparation for its manned missionsShow Image(http://airandspace.si.edu/exhibitions/gal114/SpaceRace/sec300img/311l7s7.jpg) (http://airandspace.si.edu/exhibitions/gal114/SpaceRace/sec300img/311l7s7.jpg)
I kind of stopped paying attention to this thread, so this was probably mentioned, but we should do a full Black on yellow (think YBP) set.
How will the partnership work? CM buys the caps and then resell to us for profit?500/1000 could go to us without them making a profit while they make some profit off the other 500..? But I think it's hard to convince such a big company to do something like that, although there are CM reps around.
Not sure what to do now...Make an announcement and see if the votes will change or stay the same? Then adjust accordingly.
Not sure what to do now...
You people kill me. Honestly. Not you, Ivan. The ones still voting for Dolch. Good luck hitting a 400 MOQ when full sets are available in-stock from a vendor site. :confused: :confused:
You people kill me. Honestly. Not you, Ivan. The ones still voting for Dolch. Good luck hitting a 400 MOQ when full sets are available in-stock from a vendor site. :confused: :confused:
Time for Triumph Adler to shine!! ;DYES!!!! :p
Time for Triumph Adler to shine!! ;DYES!!!! :p
I think I will just put on hold until GMK wants to give us a firm production slot for full sets, then we will revisit the colorways. Until then we can switch gears and have more discussion about how to handle the logistics, payment collections and some of these other important topics.
I think I will just put on hold until GMK wants to give us a firm production slot for full sets, then we will revisit the colorways. Until then we can switch gears and have more discussion about how to handle the logistics, payment collections and some of these other important topics.
Dont wanna sound too negative but I think given a few months all the popular colourways and what people want will be heaped online by Originative, and this GB will sink to the depths of forgotten-dom :(
Being realistic, this GB has conflicting interests with Originative......its a cut-throat game on who is faster with lower prices :(
Although I am absolutely sure there are some sets Sherry wont be providing due to demand, and then demand becomes a problem, too
There you go, as feared before: Originative kills off a GMK-GB. Wise move from sherry, so he has no competition and the GMK-monopol.
If I would have been a vendor and a ****, I would have made the same move.
This also shows (again): money > community
That is my concern exactly. Too many people will not wait for the groupbuy and will just buy it from originative, then we loose too many order it can't succeed.
I still wish we could get some cooperation so this dosen't continue happening. I just worry that each time we are near a decision it becomes available suddenly.
This is a keyboard forum -- not a group buying keyboard cult.In my eyes, GH became exactly that.
There you go, as feared before: Originative kills off a GMK-GB. Wise move from sherry, so he has no competition and the GMK-monopol.
If I would have been a vendor and a ****, I would have made the same move.
This also shows (again): money > community
There you go, as feared before: Originative kills off a GMK-GB. Wise move from sherry, so he has no competition and the GMK-monopol.
If I would have been a vendor and a ****, I would have made the same move.
This also shows (again): money > community
There are still risks involved in a business, he needs startup capital, storage space, dedicated time etc. Not to mention that a GB organizer could just run away with the money. Why someone has to be so butthurt when somebody else is making money? Is it not like he is doing something illegal.
Group buys are great for uncommon stuff like Sponge Bob keys, but a vendor will eventually replace common wants such as Dolch set, white on black, black on white, etc. People just need to learn to accept this.
It's not the money. I don't mind sherry becoming a billionaire out of his business.
It's the simple fact, that his business pretty much kills any potential GMK GB.
As this may be absolutely fine with US-ANSI 1.25 mods users, any other non-standard keycaps (language packs, certain mod sizes, windowed keycaps, etc. Cherry's tooling has soooo much to offer...) will never be feasable.
But back to the money. The money made sherry put up his business in the first place (duh?!).
It's hard for me to admit, but yes, I am butthurt. Butthurt because people get their language packs and fancy non-standard keycaps denied. "I did this for the community", to quote sherry. (not exact quote, I may paraphrased it, content still remains the same)
@keymaster
I hate to say this, and I don't really mean it, because I know better, but I have to cliché this....
Typical American stereotype. They only care for themselves, the world can burn to its grounds.
Yes, as long as the US-ANSI 1.25 mods users ("Americans") get their goods everything is fine. And if someone words his dislike, because he wants 1.5 mods or 1.75 shift or whatever, it's just "accept it!".
You gotta expand your horizon...
You're wrong. Let's change that sentence:It's not the money. I don't mind sherry becoming a billionaire out of his business.
It's the simple fact, that his business pretty much kills any potential GMK GB.
As this may be absolutely fine with US-ANSI 1.25 mods users, any other non-standard keycaps (language packs, certain mod sizes, windowed keycaps, etc. Cherry's tooling has soooo much to offer...) will never be feasable.
But back to the money. The money made sherry put up his business in the first place (duh?!).
It's hard for me to admit, but yes, I am butthurt. Butthurt because people get their language packs and fancy non-standard keycaps denied. "I did this for the community", to quote sherry. (not exact quote, I may paraphrased it, content still remains the same)
@keymaster
I hate to say this, and I don't really mean it, because I know better, but I have to cliché this....
Typical American stereotype. They only care for themselves, the world can burn to its grounds.
Yes, as long as the US-ANSI 1.25 mods users ("Americans") get their goods everything is fine. And if someone words his dislike, because he wants 1.5 mods or 1.75 shift or whatever, it's just "accept it!".
You gotta expand your horizon...
If I am not mistaken, GMK's MOQ is 400. I really doubt that the previous GB had 400 orders of those big enters/1.75 shifts and why would an ANSI user buy a big enter/1.75 shift that he/she is not going to use.
You're wrong. Let's change that sentence:
Why would every non ANSI user buy +20 keycaps they're not going to use?
Just for your info 1.75 RShift are also used in ANSI keyboards...
Do you actually see what I'm saying here? You're being selfish and so do many people here in GH.
I guess the best option will be to just say screw up ANSI users and Originative and let's go with an EU order from GMK or BSP Europe including every layout people need. This would be a bad choice too.
There are a lot of nice guys that would help everyone to have their sets(Including me). I'm sorry for you for being that selfish and been unable to understand what's going on with this interest in GMK. This isn't about satisfying only USA members.
It's not the money. I don't mind sherry becoming a billionaire out of his business.
It's the simple fact, that his business pretty much kills any potential GMK GB.
As this may be absolutely fine with US-ANSI 1.25 mods users, any other non-standard keycaps (language packs, certain mod sizes, windowed keycaps, etc. Cherry's tooling has soooo much to offer...) will never be feasable.
But back to the money. The money made sherry put up his business in the first place (duh?!).
It's hard for me to admit, but yes, I am butthurt. Butthurt because people get their language packs and fancy non-standard keycaps denied. "I did this for the community", to quote sherry. (not exact quote, I may paraphrased it, content still remains the same)
@keymaster
I hate to say this, and I don't really mean it, because I know better, but I have to cliché this....
Typical American stereotype. They only care for themselves, the world can burn to its grounds.
Yes, as long as the US-ANSI 1.25 mods users ("Americans") get their goods everything is fine. And if someone words his dislike, because he wants 1.5 mods or 1.75 shift or whatever, it's just "accept it!".
You gotta expand your horizon...
If I am not mistaken, GMK's MOQ is 400. I really doubt that the previous GB had 400 orders of those big enters/1.75 shifts and why would an ANSI user buy a big enter/1.75 shift that he/she is not going to use.
Look at the Tab key, and some better looking win keys tooShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/DuQbPdr.jpg)
source: http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/photo/6048594
Hey kboardvintage are the windowed caps lock pad printed?
Ah I see, just wondering if doubleshot windowed step caps lock was made yet ;D
Ah I see, just wondering if doubleshot windowed step caps lock was made yet ;D
SkiData was just announced @ Originative: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40315.msg805336
We may now proceed with the Dolch :)
SkiData was just announced @ Originative: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40315.msg805336Are you sure? He said two sets arrived and only announced one as SkiData with a slightly different orange color because the original isn't available. The other set could still be dolch. Sorry to rain on your parade.
We may now proceed with the Dolch :)
SkiData was just announced @ Originative: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40315.msg805336Are you sure? He said two sets arrived and only announced one as SkiData with a slightly different orange color because the original isn't available. The other set could still be dolch. Sorry to rain on your parade.
We may now proceed with the Dolch :)
SkiData was just announced @ Originative: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40315.msg805336Are you sure? He said two sets arrived and only announced one as SkiData with a slightly different orange color because the original isn't available. The other set could still be dolch. Sorry to rain on your parade.
We may now proceed with the Dolch :)
Parade? We're getting Dolch either way. I'd actually prefer to just go through a vendor since this group buy will take too long.
SkiData was just announced @ Originative: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40315.msg805336Are you sure? He said two sets arrived and only announced one as SkiData with a slightly different orange color because the original isn't available. The other set could still be dolch. Sorry to rain on your parade.
We may now proceed with the Dolch :)
Parade? We're getting Dolch either way. I'd actually prefer to just go through a vendor since this group buy will take too long.
I really don't get what your op was trying to achieve then. If anything you should advocate against this GB doing dolch then so that a Vendor is more likely to pick it up :/
Cheers,
Interesting (quasi)news from Originative.
Handarbeit might have to be it for this GB now. :P
Has there been any news on a vendor running Coffee on Cream?http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36743.msg796197#msg796197
Yes I think rebooting is the wisest choice if proceeding with full sets at all. On the other hand I have a mind to just focus on smaller patch kits for modifiers sets and international keys and some other fun stuff. But for now I am putting this on the back burner while getting ready to start the groupbuy for the already in process white on purple modifiers pack, cmyk, and esc pack. For those that have not been keeping an eye on that all the plastic colors have arrived to GMK and they will be sending me samples next week. Once I have those reviewed and they are what we asked for I will move that into a buy status which I expect to be within the month depending on how long the samples take to reach me.
Has there been any news on a vendor running Coffee on Cream?http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36743.msg796197#msg796197
Hm, since it might still be Dolch, I propose: create a group buy now with primary prices and lock everybody's money in. This way we might meet MOQ and get cheaper and internationalised sets.
Nobody will agree with me, but someone had to say it. :)
For all those waiting for Coffee and Cream...
http://www.keypop.net/product/pre-order-coffee-set
(SP doubleshot ABS)
Just to be clear, we're NOT doing the Dolch white on grey/charcoal? And this is because someone else is running an IC/GB on this color combo?
I've only started buying custom keycaps, and still haven't figured out all the tribal customs for the GH community. :p
Just to be clear, we're NOT doing the Dolch white on grey/charcoal? And this is because someone else is running an IC/GB on this color combo?
I've only started buying custom keycaps, and still haven't figured out all the tribal customs for the GH community. :p
Just to be clear, we're NOT doing the Dolch white on grey/charcoal? And this is because someone else is running an IC/GB on this color combo?
I've only started buying custom keycaps, and still haven't figured out all the tribal customs for the GH community. :p
For the record, I would buy that, twice! ;)
For the record, I would buy that, twice! ;)
FTFY!
For the record, I would buy that, twice! ;)
FTFY!
Now he's just going to say two times zero is zero lol.
Also, I might be interested two sets.
The modifiers buy will likely starting next week.
I think we will see how the modifiers buy goes and take it from there. Maybe instead of full set we will do more interesting smaller things, which can be build into a full set of some sort? Pretty sure we will abandon any classics (bar patch kits) and just go for community colorways of stuff that don't exist before. I will probably keep voting results more close to the vest moving on. Don't want this to be market research for vendors.
The modifiers buy will likely starting next week. Just ironing out a few final details with GMK to make sure everything is correct and organized well from the begining.
There is a buy for modifiers right now. It is a test out with smaller item. If that has not success then there will not be full set groupbuy. Buy some modifier sets! (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41017.0)
The color way isn't really my cup of tea though.
This might be a bit obvious, but it really would be one heck of a combo!!!Show Image(http://vorn.co.za/mess/dolski-1.jpg)Show Image(http://vorn.co.za/mess/dolski-2.png)
Sherryton's "replica" sets of Ski Data are up on the store:Show Image(https://www.originativeco.com/sites/default/files/IMG_9938.JPG)Show Image(https://www.originativeco.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/IMG_9920.JPG)
I still don't like the legends on some modifiers, they look odd. They look darker than the original set.
Sherryton's "replica" sets of Ski Data are up on the store:Show Image(https://www.originativeco.com/sites/default/files/IMG_9938.JPG)Show Image(https://www.originativeco.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/IMG_9920.JPG)
I still don't like the legends on some modifiers, they look odd. They look darker than the original set.
I anyone brave enough to send him their money?
Have any white on black GMK sets been made yet?Nope.
Sherryton's "replica" sets of Ski Data are up on the store:Show Image(https://www.originativeco.com/sites/default/files/IMG_9938.JPG)Show Image(https://www.originativeco.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/IMG_9920.JPG)
I still don't like the legends on some modifiers, they look odd. They look darker than the original set.
Have any white on black GMK sets been made yet?No, or at least not that we've seen. Those are still fairly easy to get a hold of for cheap, so they probably won't be.
And y'all are crazy with the critiquing of the legends. Don't get me wrong, I see what you mean and I agree, but honestly how many of you sit and stare at your keyboards that closely to probably notice?
Have any white on black GMK sets been made yet?No, or at least not that we've seen. Those are still fairly easy to get a hold of for cheap, so they probably won't be.
Originative has the black on beige set with all the keys you would need for your Filco. The stepped caps wouldn't work though, unless it was modded. Though I would seriously consider whether you want to deal with them. There is way too much drama going on and way too many outstanding transactions. It is likely a gamble giving them your money.Have any white on black GMK sets been made yet?No, or at least not that we've seen. Those are still fairly easy to get a hold of for cheap, so they probably won't be.
Where would I get one? I'd also like a vintage two tone black on beige set with the stepped caps lock. I would need moogle kits too so they would fit my filco right?
White on black sets are a cinch to find on ebay and elsewhere from $10 used to $100ish NOS stuff. Choose wisely on G80 model over G81 if price is close, as you can always make back $30ish if you sell the switches from it. Best board to get is G80-8113HUBUS-2 for ANSI user. White on black will be low priority, though may offer some smaller patch kit at some point in some configuration similar to the purple one done this time plus some numpad and nav keys and stuff.
originative orange on charcoal is different color than SkiData for sure. By how much different and whether it would be a jarring difference I am not sure from bad photo. Charcoal color look close but orange appears to be more bright on originative.
Next groupbuy plan currently is 1- white on purple nav/function/numpad kit to fill out the 2tone style with the purple modifier pack from this time, 2 - some sort of alphanumeric pack with colorway TBD but will probably try to steer towards white on something. So it would be possible to make a full set if you participated in both buys. Third round will try to offer all component to make full set at once in some cohesive colorway. Getting there in steps.
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Yes grey would be a good candidate, a medium grey between Dolch alpha and mod.
I also think blue could be a nice pick as it also has a nice compliment to purple.
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Yes grey would be a good candidate, a medium grey between Dolch alpha and mod.
I also think blue could be a nice pick as it also has a nice compliment to purple.
Any chance of having a full set of blank black/charcoal 2-tone set? I'd want this set more than anything. Or at least blank black modifiers.
Any chance of having a full set of blank black/charcoal 2-tone set? I'd want this set more than anything. Or at least blank black modifiers.
Everybody wants this :)
White on cyan does look REALLY tasty... but I have plans for that so I want to wait until buy3. ;)Modifiers are always ment to stick out more than the alpha/numeric keys in one way or another. Having colors such as the green or cyan for the Alpha/Numeric keys will kill the effect of the modifiers when trying to reach the retro style effect.
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White on red could be a choice to move towards something kind of handarbeitish.
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White on lime green... yo must be JOKERing right?
We need to ditch the whole plan of running a part 2 of the purple set! for it to happen it would require all buyers of the first set to buy again, and they would need to buy just as many sets as before. This is simply not going to happen, since I think most people don't care, they just want a full set in a color that is much more subtle and stylish, this has been expressed countless times in the GB and will be again if part 2 happens, seriously how many people only bought the purple set just because we needed to establish a relationship with GMK?have you participated in the first GB?
Also, people not in the first GB wouldn't be able to join in either, it would be a closed charity party.
I suggest we do a full set in black with transparent legends. It is new, unique, desirable and reaches a huge audience. No one can deny that it looks good on just about any keyboard. Black is just great to gather a lot of people, and we really need that. It offends no one, and is usable by all! I know it won't contribute to the progress of reaching a handarbeit set, but really people want something classy, and this is also why skidata and dolch is popular besides being rare. It also opens up to a huge marked of backlit keyboard users that have no alternative besides the stock keys. This will be a f'ing easy GB to reach MOQ! It also looks stealthy without LEDs.
Sorry if I came off sounding bitter, I assure you I am not :)
I suggest we do a full set in black with transparent legends. It is new, unique, desirable and reaches a huge audience. No one can deny that it looks good on just about any keyboard. Black is just great to gather a lot of people, and we really need that. It offends no one, and is usable by all!
have you participated in the first GB?
if not, have you ever considered that peeps deserve 2nd GB shot for a full set before anything else?
White on black sets are a cinch to find on ebay and elsewhere from $10 used to $100ish NOS stuff.In German or US-ANSI layout, it is relatively easy, yes, but not in other layouts.
Would be cool if you could make EU kits for dolch and black on dark greyPersonally, I would be very interested in adapter kits and a EU/Nordic kit for Dolch. No, make that two of each.
dude this 1st GB is the one that set steady feed with GM.... Why the selfishness men, so you can go and have your full set the way you want it? Ever considered that it will be voting going on and maeby, just maeby your wish wont come true?I suggest we do a full set in black with transparent legends. It is new, unique, desirable and reaches a huge audience. No one can deny that it looks good on just about any keyboard. Black is just great to gather a lot of people, and we really need that. It offends no one, and is usable by all!
Wait, GMK can do transparent legends?? I never thought about this, but that wold be pretty cool. I would love a full set of this.have you participated in the first GB?
if not, have you ever considered that peeps deserve 2nd GB shot for a full set before anything else?
Broadmonkey does have a point. So on the contrary, have you considered people that didn't want the white on purple? If these people don't want it in the 1st round, most likely won't want it in the 2nd round either. So by offering a set to complete the first round, we most likely won't even have as much in the 2nd round because I guarantee that not all those people from 1st round will get the rest of the white on purple in 2nd round just to complete the set.
dude this 1st GB is the one that set steady feed with GM.... Why the selfishness men, so you can go and have your full set the way you want it? Ever considered that it will be voting going on and maeby, just maeby your wish wont come true?
Don't be selfish men, people of the 1st GB should have chance for 2nd one no matter if we reach MOQ or not.
We made the MOQ on the purple, I ordered 1 of each even though I wasn't interested due to not being a full set, but that should not discourage us from giving a shot for full set...dude this 1st GB is the one that set steady feed with GM.... Why the selfishness men, so you can go and have your full set the way you want it? Ever considered that it will be voting going on and maeby, just maeby your wish wont come true?
Don't be selfish men, people of the 1st GB should have chance for 2nd one no matter if we reach MOQ or not.
How can you call him selfish? He purchased white on purple mods to help out, despite not being interested in them. I think logic dictates in his statements rather than selfishness or any other emotion.
We made the MOQ on the purple, I ordered 1 of each even though I wasn't interested due to not being a full set, but that should not discourage us from giving a shot for full set...
I suggest we do a full set in black with transparent legends. It is new, unique, desirable and reaches a huge audience. No one can deny that it looks good on just about any keyboard. Black is just great to gather a lot of people, and we really need that. It offends no one, and is usable by all!
Wait, GMK can do transparent legends?? I never thought about this, but that wold be pretty cool. I would love a full set of this.
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that's fine, but lets see what the majority thinks and not just few individuals. If majority thinks we should move on, then it is what it is... But something tells me that GB for the rest modifiers might happen, maeby we just do the rest of the modifiers + the ( Enter; 0) numpad keys in black with white legend and few of the alphanumerics to match the rest of the different layout sets, then we all can gather the rest of the alphanumerics from ebay g81 7000 boards that are plenty of them NIB for really descent price.We made the MOQ on the purple, I ordered 1 of each even though I wasn't interested due to not being a full set, but that should not discourage us from giving a shot for full set...
And that's fine. I also ordered one of each set and quickly sold it to someone as soon as the GB closed, but I don't understand why people are being called "selfish" for having a different opinion.
that's fine, but lets see what the majority thinks and not just few individuals. If majority thinks we should move on, then it is what it is... But something tells me that GB for the rest modifiers might happen, maeby we just do the rest of the modifiers + the ( Enter; 0) numpad keys in black with white legend and few of the alphanumerics to match the rest of the different layout sets, then we all can gather the rest of the alphanumerics from ebay g81 7000 boards that are plenty of them NIB for really descent price.
have you participated in the first GB?
if not, have you ever considered that peeps deserve 2nd GB shot for a full set before anything else?
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Take a look at the C key.
I think it would be a really interesting set no matter the colour we choose. People would be able to use them in illuminated keyboards and on normal keyboards and still would look great.
I'd be down for a dolch set
There are a lot of possibilities of things that can be made. IC time is all about discussing various options, and coming to some consensus to make something that will do well and not be pushing 10tons up Mount Everest again. For now, it's time to come up with ideas and then all the best ideas will be gathered to be voted. Voting is very important, and we need to avoid situation of last time where we had only those with the strongest opinion voting, then lot of people not voting and crying about it after the IC was done and the buy stage already start. If you don't like choices tell us and make suggestions. It is what IC time is for.people voting is what made the 1st GB happen. I was very sceptic before I entered the GB because I didn't saw an actual full set retro style with the purple modifiers, but only fragments of the purple modifiers that will only do good if you have 60% board and then the CMYK and Esc pack was there with no connection to the purple except for the purple Esc key.
White on black sets are a cinch to find on ebay and elsewhere from $10 used to $100ish NOS stuff.In German or US-ANSI layout, it is relatively easy, yes, but not in other layouts.
summer is coming !
people voting is what made the 1st GB happen.
Blue on Charcoal is very nice. But I'll like any other colour such as Orange, Green, Yellow or Red on Dark Charcoal. It just looks so sublime.
You can do a lot with Charcoal these days 8) .
dude this 1st GB is the one that set steady feed with GM.... Why the selfishness men, so you can go and have your full set the way you want it? Ever considered that it will be voting going on and maeby, just maeby your wish wont come true?
wouldnt the best thing be to have 3 different packs in the next gb?
Dolch set (since everyone wants one)
something other set(community made set)
and a smallpack , example ESC, white on red GH, wNv and maybe some different caps locks.
you know dude cussing wont get you anywhere, specially on a forum that censors those words. I was the one who though that moving to another different set is selfish before trying or ever again trying to get the purple set as a whole set. I have never seen any board out there with retro style with purple modifiers, so if we speak about something that has never been made, well then purple set fits that description.wouldnt the best thing be to have 3 different packs in the next gb?
Dolch set (since everyone wants one)
something other set(community made set)
and a smallpack , example ESC, white on red GH, wNv and maybe some different caps locks.
Why? We could bearly manage three this time round.
We really need to know exactly what GMK can provide. Like I said simply crying about how much you want dolch is pointless if, like before, there is no possibility of them being able to produce them for us, and given that we barely managed to make there requirements first time, I can't see them willing to make a space for us to make a full ****ing set, can you?
So instead, I'm going to go with Ivan (as this is all on him anyway) and make good on finishing the purple set for those of us who aren't short sighted and single minded, so allowing us to fill those out makes sense, as we have already shown willing, then work on sets to match that.
Of course they will be willing to do a full set, why shouldn't they, they are not a bank who decides whether or not to approve how much you can loan.does makes me wonder why Lysol didn't went for a full set in first place....... $100 for something can not be used except if you have GH60, wont even fit the poker since there is no F5-F8 in purple.....
The problem with continuing with purple modifiers is that there is not enough interest and there is zero possibility for new buyers to participate in the new GB, they can, but then they stand without the first part. There is also those who has bought in on the first GB just to see a full sets GB later on. The interest for full sets is also much higher than partial sets, unless they fill out a specific purpose like a Moogle kit.
Just my $.02, but Dolch is pointless if sherry is really getting it.This. A vendor will focus on things that have the highest chance to sell. Can't you see the sets that are coming from him? Dolch is almost inevitable. Wasting the time to traverse through this whole process only to see him post that set would be devastating.
Purple nav/function/etc pack will be given a chance at least for sure. If it turn out there is not enough interest and it needs to be dropped so be it.
I know there is a lot of interest for certain classic sets, but really I would prefer to focus on new ideas before we go back to reproduction. Though we may have some smaller adaptation kits sooner for some of them to increase keyboard compatibility or change language for those that have the colorway already. I also really don't want to run too many options at each time since any competing choice will split focus and make it harder to reach the MOQ. GMK was very clear we won't get a break on not reaching the MOQ again so it is important that we choose wisely. Anything that can be successful will get run eventually, some may simply have to have a little patience for their favorite colorways to be offered.
Just my $.02, but Dolch is pointless if sherry is really getting it.
Anything with charcoal base is fine with me.Show Image(http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39280.0;attach=20130;image)
Could be possible to include some special extras in the purple nav/funtion/etc, but then I think we will be done with that colorway for a long time at the least.I think that is what we should do, and we should move away from it. There is so much more to do than sit on the same thing forever.
the chance to build one from the various component packs that will be offeredThat is perfect.
I do really want to try for Miami at some point, maybe on buy 3 but it might come out different than the original. I have a few remix ideas and we will have voting. As much as I want it to happen I am highly skeptical due to the MOQ involved. I will be running one remix in the dyesubs buy starting soon too as an audition of sort.
I do really want to try for Miami at some point, maybe on buy 3 but it might come out different than the original. I have a few remix ideas and we will have voting. As much as I want it to happen I am highly skeptical due to the MOQ involved. I will be running one remix in the dyesubs buy starting soon too as an audition of sort.
Just keep in mind that a few people might have dyschromatopsia (red/green weakness). So any greenish/redish color combo isnt really fun for them. ("ordered Miami and got blanks! :eek:")
I would be in for compatibility sets for classics, like beige, black and dolch. For full sets I suggest to explore neutral colors that may match existing sets, allowing GB to reach MOQ easily, letting calls for exotic color combos for later.
As some does, I do not see a major constraint to call for traditional color combos, why we should continue harvesting keyboards if we can get new full sets for the same money? Is like the car market, we always can buy an used car, but we have also the option to buy new ones, which makes the market healthy, meaning that prices for used set should tend to be more affordable.
Finally, I think sherry potential or current offer should not biased GB decisions as it is always up to each GH member where to source caps, so that factor is already considered by each person here.
Unfortunately it will be extremely difficult to get a large enough portion of the community to agree on a set, also apparently vendors agreed to not carry GMK per sherryI would be in for compatibility sets for classics, like beige, black and dolch. For full sets I suggest to explore neutral colors that may match existing sets, allowing GB to reach MOQ easily, letting calls for exotic color combos for later.
As some does, I do not see a major constraint to call for traditional color combos, why we should continue harvesting keyboards if we can get new full sets for the same money? Is like the car market, we always can buy an used car, but we have also the option to buy new ones, which makes the market healthy, meaning that prices for used set should tend to be more affordable.
Finally, I think sherry potential or current offer should not biased GB decisions as it is always up to each GH member where to source caps, so that factor is already considered by each person here.
i totally agree. there is no point in talking down the obvious demand for classic sets and then watch how the exotic choices fail to reach the moq instead.
at this point we should just try and get the highest volume order possible in order to strengthen our position as a valued customers community with gmk. once this reputation is gained, good things will happen, maybe like more accomodating moq numbers or whatever.
at this point we should just try and get the highest volume order possible in order to strengthen our position as a valued customers community with gmk. once this reputation is gained, good things will happen, maybe like more accomodating moq numbers or whatever.
I do really want to try for Miami at some point, maybe on buy 3 but it might come out different than the original. I have a few remix ideas and we will have voting. As much as I want it to happen I am highly skeptical due to the MOQ involved. I will be running one remix in the dyesubs buy starting soon too as an audition of sort.
Unfortunately it will be extremely difficult to get a large enough portion of the community to agree on a set, also apparently vendors agreed to not carry GMK per sherryI would be in for compatibility sets for classics, like beige, black and dolch. For full sets I suggest to explore neutral colors that may match existing sets, allowing GB to reach MOQ easily, letting calls for exotic color combos for later.
As some does, I do not see a major constraint to call for traditional color combos, why we should continue harvesting keyboards if we can get new full sets for the same money? Is like the car market, we always can buy an used car, but we have also the option to buy new ones, which makes the market healthy, meaning that prices for used set should tend to be more affordable.
Finally, I think sherry potential or current offer should not biased GB decisions as it is always up to each GH member where to source caps, so that factor is already considered by each person here.
i totally agree. there is no point in talking down the obvious demand for classic sets and then watch how the exotic choices fail to reach the moq instead.
at this point we should just try and get the highest volume order possible in order to strengthen our position as a valued customers community with gmk. once this reputation is gained, good things will happen, maybe like more accomodating moq numbers or whatever.
TechKeys would get behind a GB if the set has mass appeal. I would even be happy to help organize if I see some good ideas.You heard the man!
TechKeys would get behind a GB if the set has mass appeal. I would even be happy to help organize if I see some good ideas.
My idea.... the godam frickin NINJA TURTLES:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/KE7tprI.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/CsdTsUu.png)
how about....wait for it.....BOOM THE MU-FUKIN MATRIXShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/vT4aOTL.png)
I would be in for compatibility sets for classics, like beige, black and dolch. For full sets I suggest to explore neutral colors that may match existing sets, allowing GB to reach MOQ easily, letting calls for exotic color combos for later.
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i totally agree. there is no point in talking down the obvious demand for classic sets and then watch how the exotic choices fail to reach the moq instead.
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Unique? Anything with those clear legends.
Clear on Charcoal. That's a good idea. I think we all really liked that idea. We should go with that idea.
not too bad acanthopisIt's even better on a white keyboard!
But ... first I want to see the completion of the purple colorway. GMK, iirc reading, was nice enough to get purple. We might as well make full use of it along with other unique possibilities other than the usual Dolch, etc.
how about....wait for it.....BOOM THE MU-FUKIN MATRIXShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/vT4aOTL.png)
make it domed and we are rocking
Maybe that could be done via an imsto dyesub set.
Congrats on 1111 posts Mashby!Maybe that could be done via an imsto dyesub set.
I'd prefer doubleshot personally. :rolleyes:
Maybe that could be done via an imsto dyesub set.
wonder how would yellow and black combo would look like in retro style. Yellow modifiers with black legends and black alphanumeric with yellow legends, wasp effect, should match black keyboards well just not sure how will it match white keyboards...
wonder how would yellow and black combo would look like in retro style. Yellow modifiers with black legends and black alphanumeric with yellow legends, wasp effect, should match black keyboards well just not sure how will it match white keyboards...
I like this talk of yellow :)
I like the idea of the green on black, like old terminal. It's fresh, has some color but is also fairly reserved and classy. I too am a fan of grey on white and have suggested it before, doing something like the colorway from Alcatel. Some of the other ideas are also nice looking and interesting but I am not sure of how wide appeal. Picking colorways that will appeal to broad taste is challenging but will be extremely important.
Clear legends on something will most certainly be done at some point as desire for nice backlight keycaps is very obvious.
I vote TA with Lime mods! :D
I'm not sure we have seen any samples, but based on their windows, I'm sure they look great.I like the idea of the green on black, like old terminal. It's fresh, has some color but is also fairly reserved and classy. I too am a fan of grey on white and have suggested it before, doing something like the colorway from Alcatel. Some of the other ideas are also nice looking and interesting but I am not sure of how wide appeal. Picking colorways that will appeal to broad taste is challenging but will be extremely important.
Clear legends on something will most certainly be done at some point as desire for nice backlight keycaps is very obvious.
<-- Joins the fanclub of grey on white.
I definitively want to see that one some day.
Also, do anyone know how well GMK keys with transparent legends work with backlighting?
The SP keys don't work all that well.
The way they are made causes the light to be uneven and the legends rather hard to read.
They are still cool though.
Grey on white doubleshots sound like a waste. If you want a low contrast color combination like that you can as well get lasered caps.(http://i.imgur.com/X1Qx9Yb.jpg)
Green on black is nice, but toxic was nicer and not long ago.
Folks, this is GMK, they have the original Cherry molds! Please let's make some use of this fact first instead of doing the same things over again that we could have done before with SP, both cheaper and without unreachable MOQs.
Those are all too specialized. The only one we could get close to MOQ is the teal.
I agree with Halvar. I think especially due to the high MOQ of GMK our first set should be a classic colour scheme that everyone knows and loves like black on beige, skidata, dolch etc. There's always time for experimentation at another time, but right now reaching the MOQ is the most important thing and to do so we've gotta go with a classic.
I know most of you will find this boring, but I want a solid white set with light grey lettering similar to Apple's keyboards. If I ever do another group buy, it'd likely be a (very small) group buy to do this. GMK would be awesome, if the MOQ wasn't a thing.I'm in this.
I do really like the TA green on light grey colorway. I like it as a monochome keybase, but perhaps have some white on bright green/dark green accent keys as alternate modifier option kind of like the original.
Dianoda, I skimmed hard and didn't realize you put those up because I suggested it. Thank you so much, I appreciate the effort :D
Purple legends on either white or light grey alphas, then. :D
If we are going to do a purple on white set or similar, it would probably make more sense for such a set to included in the next cherry replica imsto thick PBT GB. GMK sets would be best for designs where the keycap color is not white.
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Not bad...
Alpha sets don't really need to have anything purple, and is probably better that it does not. Just something that 'goes' with purple. Making it go with other existing sets in some fashion too would probably be the best move.I see you guys beating on a dead horse.... I'm saying this cause previously I expressed desire of finishing the rest with the purple modifiers + some black keys alpha numeric + space bar in order to have full 104 set with purple and black on white legends.
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No yellow, though.
Just something that 'goes' with purple. Making it go with other existing sets in some fashion too would probably be the best move.
I have QuestionGMK does not make DyeSub keycaps but BSP Europe does same type as original Cherry
GMK is available to make DyeSub ?
i wish that GMK DyeSub keyCap
GMK does not make DyeSub keycaps but BSP Europe does same type as original Cherry
What about a Graphite GMK set? I feel like that might be a good choice.
Ahahaha! I think we're going to have to wait until the summer for this to happen (Interpreting a post from Ivan in another thread), but you already know I agree with you :)
GMK does do PBT double shot though, right?
GMK does do PBT double shot though, right?
Nope, they only do ABS. SP is the only one, AFAIK, that has started to offer double shots using PBT.
I still like this colour set the best.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/30RjD8R.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/elio2XQ.jpg)
I predict your second GMK GB (if you hold on to your "style") won't happen.I already posted how we can make it work both ways in the 2nd GB, we can pull out having full purple/black 104 set and Dolch too by buying MY7000 with DS from ebay for $35 new one. Whatever happens it happens, if we have lots of people that want to move on and leave behind the purple mods so be it.
Why? Simple. MOQ won't be reached.
Why? Well, many (including myself) just went with the 1st GMK GB to buy a full set in the future. I admit, I don't need any of the keycaps of the 1st round, nor do I really like them. So, I ask myself: In how many GBs do I have to drag myself (unwillingly) to finally be able to get a full set? 2? 3? I don't have the money for that.
The other thing is, every following GMK GB will be based on the 1st (purp mods). How many people actually want to build on them? The 39 (IIRC) who voted for purp? Well, good for them, what about the rest of us?
What concerns me the most is that every following packs won't really match well with each other, so in the end we get a colour ****fest... or some would say Handarbeit...
Either, I didn't entirely understand your plans, Ivan, and then I may have made invalid points above or they (GBs) simply won't happen.
Sure, might as well have the whole row.watch it now Lysol, don't make the same mistake twice....... another partial set looks like a bad move, lets don't play games anymore....
Once again, purple is not going to be in every buy. It will be finished with. I will offer the chance to finish it out for those that may want to do so. If they don't make the MOQ happen that is the end of it.
My main focus for buy2 will be on doing an alpha set to work out the language pack system. I want to do these things in smaller steps so when we go big, it will be all organized system and smooth working.
But for 2nd GB we need shopped mockups on colors and let people vote on them, and let the best color combo win. Then we will see if MOQ will be met at the end, whats worst that can happen? we always have dyesub thick PBT with all those exotic legends.
we can have IC without GMK knowing, if it don't happen then GMK never knew about it. If it happens then worst case scenario is we wait for the desired colors if GMK don't have them in stock at the moment.But for 2nd GB we need shopped mockups on colors and let people vote on them, and let the best color combo win. Then we will see if MOQ will be met at the end, whats worst that can happen? we always have dyesub thick PBT with all those exotic legends.
The worst that can happen is that we will destroy our relationship with GMK, and I don't know how many failed GBs they will think is funny. Sure we can just use dye sub from IMSTO or wherever, but this will severely limit us in colorways (as of now at least).
My main focus for buy2 will be on doing an alpha set to work out the language pack system. I want to do these things in smaller steps so when we go big, it will be all organized system and smooth working.
Also if you are going to introduce foreign languages that's fine as well. German seems popular
GB, DE and ES specific keys should be in at the least. I think a few others had a relatively decent amount of votes but am to lazy to go looking right now. I will have this questions in poll again to be sure before we commit to any additional.
Yeah it's not much difference really between the Nordic sets, just a few character on different rows. Sometimes I do have to wonder what prompted certain layouts at all, it just seems so unnecessary to make some differences when it is otherwise the same. It would be much simpler if there were less different layouts. The one that still bugs me the most personally is GB. I mean really, swap the @ and ", and move the # and ~ around WHY? All that needed to be done is switch the $ for £ for one difference that is warranted. Whatever :rolleyes:(http://i.imgur.com/Z7CykaS.gif)
Also AZERTY... WTF? I speak French and still don't comprehend that one.
Yes, SE had some decent votes. Just include Æ and Ø and you have your nordic pack.
Gulf colours anyone?
Yes SE please.
Also I don't mind paying for a nordic kit if that means people get keys that wouldn't be possible otherwise.
But I don't want keys with combined legends. I greatly prefer separate keys for the different languages.
Gulf colours anyone?(http://i.imgur.com/JcKYQc0.gif)
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Gulf colours anyone?
I like it. I tweaked the colors a bit. Maybe it's too much with the alphas and the mods having different legend color.
(http://i.imgur.com/YobkgJE.jpg) (http://lab.cubiq.org/kbcc/#BFL,WA,OAS,BM)
Reference: 1 (http://www.gt40gulfliverycars.com/thecars.html), 2 (http://www.colourlovers.com/palette/42239/Gulf_GT40)
The Gulf GT40 colorway is a fun concept so I decided to do a mock-up using my cherry legends template:
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Original jpeg file (b/c GH server image processing introduces weird compression artifacts in the red channels...) http://i5.minus.com/ikDTGVdc8Dl0E.jpg (http://i5.minus.com/ikDTGVdc8Dl0E.jpg)
I really like that. If only all the legends were white.
I really like that. If only all the legends were white.
Sure: http://i1.minus.com/ibg80IcTX93ayj.jpg (http://i1.minus.com/ibg80IcTX93ayj.jpg)
And now it's almost Miami lol.
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I quite like this one.
The joker without purple?
How could you do that :O
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I quite like this one.
this one pls. :DShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/3BzfJ.jpg)
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This all the way. I reminds me of the ICEE machines!Show Image(http://i1.minus.com/ibg80IcTX93ayj.jpg)
I quite like this one.
Also feel free to talk about specific key size needs, languages and other topics. I will get a poll up soon, and where possible photos of the suggested choices.
you know what i'll be saying here. Please make keys to fit 1800 layouts :)
clear. on charcoal. gogo.
Would love to see some Yellow on Charcoal keys........ please ;) .That would be.. amazing..
Unique because I've never seen any Cherry's with Yellow coloured Letters/Numbers.
Would love to see some Yellow on Charcoal keys........ please ;) .
Unique because I've never seen any Cherry's with Yellow coloured Letters/Numbers.
Yes please! I'll take that 1800 too!Would love to see some Yellow on Charcoal keys........ please ;) .
Unique because I've never seen any Cherry's with Yellow coloured Letters/Numbers.
that is a good idea Elrick. basically dolch with yellow text, so i'll call it yolch
(http://i.imgur.com/K5elelK.png) (http://i.imgur.com/K5elelK.png)
YOLCHLO
Yes please! I'll take that 1800 too!Would love to see some Yellow on Charcoal keys........ please ;) .
Unique because I've never seen any Cherry's with Yellow coloured Letters/Numbers.
that is a good idea Elrick. basically dolch with yellow text, so i'll call it yolch
(http://i.imgur.com/K5elelK.png) (http://i.imgur.com/K5elelK.png)
Would love to see some Yellow on Charcoal keys........ please ;) .
Unique because I've never seen any Cherry's with Yellow coloured Letters/Numbers.
that is a good idea Elrick. basically dolch with yellow text, so i'll call it yolch
(http://i.imgur.com/K5elelK.png) (http://i.imgur.com/K5elelK.png)
Show Image(http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/files/attach/images/30354/828/997/004/e245edfdecbc8ca789e939a47ec28d6d.jpg)
This would be delightful and would CERTAINLY meet the MOQ especially w/ Cherry legends. And it would look decent with purple mods.
Do it:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/c2listY.png)
guys, SNES colors -- GO!
(http://pubpages.unh.edu/~bwp9/IMAGES/snes.jpg) (http://pubpages.unh.edu/~bwp9/IMAGES/snes.jpg)
Classic two-tone with purple legends?
I think I like it, mockup anyone with mad skills?
Show Image(http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/files/attach/images/30354/828/997/004/e245edfdecbc8ca789e939a47ec28d6d.jpg)
This would be delightful and would CERTAINLY meet the MOQ especially w/ Cherry legends. And it would look decent with purple mods.
Triumph adler and Skidata would be dope.Wasn't triumph adler a big possibility? What happened to this?
Triumph adler #1Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/3dJxD.jpg)
Edit: I would acctually dont mind buying a few different sets.
If you make a GB with dolch, triumph adler, skidata, olivetti and something else, I would probably buy all of them.
Triumph adler and Skidata would be dope.Wasn't triumph adler a big possibility? What happened to this?
Triumph adler #1Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/3dJxD.jpg)
Edit: I would acctually dont mind buying a few different sets.
If you make a GB with dolch, triumph adler, skidata, olivetti and something else, I would probably buy all of them.
if you guys read through this you'd know those are faded TA mods. The new looking ones are an annoying blue.
Any idea on when this GB will start?
I have a feeling that set like this will be around $120-$140.... Kinda glad I jumped and preordered Dolch set from Sherry for $85
I have a feeling that set like this will be around $120-$140.... Kinda glad I jumped and preordered Dolch set from Sherry for $85
Yep, same here. Although The Sherryton Dolch set is purely ABS but these are all PBT's.
I suppose that those that love PBT will still be here buying these. I love Dolch but if you get colours resembling Sherryton's, then go his way.
Greys and White are Dolch colours hence any differences to them would be welcomed in my eyes (but ONLY mine) ;D .
GMK only makes ABS DS keys.They also do padprinted and lasered ABS ;)
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I quite like this one.
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I quite like this one.
I also support this one.
Would be in for that one but with black legends. I don't think white legends give enough contrast.Show Image(http://i1.minus.com/ibg80IcTX93ayj.jpg)
I quite like this one.
I also support this one.
I freaking love that one
I think you are wrong, whites looks better, can someone make one of this 2 tone color with black legends?
I think you are wrong, whites looks better, can someone make one of this 2 tone color with black legends?
With black legends:Show Image(http://i4.minus.com/ivowyWA6ruZFX.jpg)
And with white:Show Image(http://i1.minus.com/i2dAgVSgq3hOu.jpg)
And my favorite (the original style with white and deep navy legends):Show Image(http://i2.minus.com/i8PPfzUI2I7ti.jpg)
there is no doubt that orange and blue for the color keys look really good,I think you are wrong, whites looks better, can someone make one of this 2 tone color with black legends?
With black legends:Show Image(http://i4.minus.com/ivowyWA6ruZFX.jpg)
And with white:Show Image(http://i1.minus.com/i2dAgVSgq3hOu.jpg)
And my favorite (the original style with white and deep navy legends):Show Image(http://i2.minus.com/i8PPfzUI2I7ti.jpg)
Dianoda can you make 1 more with white legends on the modifiers and black legends on the alpha? much appreciated.
I like the one with the navy blue legends best, too. All white legends looks good too.
BTW, how would the white on light blue alphas look together with the purple modifiers? Dianoda, can you make a mockup of that?
If the light blue alphas go together with the purple as well as the orange/navy or orange/white mods, this idea would be a 100% winner for me.
I like the one with the navy blue legends best, too. All white legends looks good too.
BTW, how would the white on light blue alphas look together with the purple modifiers? Dianoda, can you make a mockup of that?
If the light blue alphas go together with the purple as well as the orange/navy or orange/white mods, this idea would be a 100% winner for me.Show Image(http://i3.minus.com/ieyJFsysl7ulV.jpg)
And my favorite (the original style with white and deep navy legends):I like that combination the best (was hard to decide) too - with one reservation: the dark legends shouldn't be blue but charcoal or black.Show Image(http://i2.minus.com/i8PPfzUI2I7ti.jpg)
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Looking forward to voting for the white on orange!Show Image(http://i978.photobucket.com/albums/ae270/tjcaustin/CCnO/DSACCoO60_zps7c8a2c5f.jpg)
Yes, more or less this is the plan.
I think we will have a vote on the colorway for the alpha set. I think narrowed the choices white on grey, clear on grey or black, white on light blue, white on red as those that I feel probably have the highest chance of making moq.
Then depend on winner of colorway alpha, we then vote on colorway modifier to have something that is also complimentary in some way.
Also have classic modifier pack white on black 'lite' since many of the keys really are not necessary to replace, and one big 'Euro' keys pack in white on black.
I think this should be a good amount of things.
Yeah, but it is what it is with the MOQ situation. I would like nothing better than making wild stuff but we have to reach certain number for them to be produced and I know that is not possible with certain colorways. I want to try our best to reach some balance of exciting colors that have broader appeal. I will keep trying to negotiate lower moq with GMK but only time will tell if they will ever be willing to do that.
yeah, I know. Are GMK keys better?Are they better than what?
yeah, I know. Are GMK keys better?They certainly feel nicer because of their thickness, also cherry profile is far superior to all else IMO.
I think this light blue and purple looks fantastic, but each has their own taste.Show Image(http://i3.minus.com/ieyJFsysl7ulV.jpg)
And how exactly do we have a full set with the purp mods from round 1 (which are mods only, no arrow cluster, no nav cluster, etc) + alphas?
And how exactly do we have a full set with the purp mods from round 1 (which are mods only, no arrow cluster, no nav cluster, etc) + alphas?
I'm pretty sure one of the new buys will be a set of arrow+nav clusters plus F5-F8 (and probably an ESC key, too, for good measure). Assuming the alpha kit also includes spacebar, F1-F4, and F9-F12, you'd have all the keys needed to make a complete TKL set.
Edit: or the next modifier set will additionally include arrow+nav clusters plus F5-F8... that would probably make more sense.
I'd like to be able to collect a full set from Round 2 alone, because we don't know if we will meet MOQ for the purple R2 set (in Cpt.'s terminology), and everyone who didn't participate in Round 1 will be more motivated if they can buy a full set in one round.Some people (me inclueded) ordered more than we needed, so at least more people could complete a set than were part of round 1.
That marine blue-green-gray color is gorgeous. It is in fact my favorite color, and I've been swooning every time someone posts vintage keycaps with teal lettering. I would love a full set like that, and it's sad no one's been making one (more in standard colors, like standard red, or standard blue, or standard green).This (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39280.msg876134#msg876134)?
I can't remember the brand, perhaps it was Royal, but they also had some nice teal-ish green on white/cream caps. Those are the ones that caught my attention first. I never see anything like them on sale anywhere, and really wish one of the dye sub PBT GBs in the past and present used that color.
You're thinking of a color way from Triumph Adler or Royal Adler (I think). They were a typewriter company that had MX compatable caps; I almost got a set of alphas (since none of the mods would fit) but the price wasnt right. The original vote had the TA set as a color option. I voted for it as well as the purple.
Ivan, you should scratch the Hollow set for the R2 GB and arrange the blue-green Royal-style color legend instead :) *wink* We might totally get a lot of orders for it!I would prefer this aswell, btw does anyone have a purple modifiers pack that they wanna sell?
I would prefer this aswell, btw does anyone have a purple modifiers pack that they wanna sell?
Yeah, the green/light grey TA set is another one that would be really good. I have it but it is not compatible with anything modern, or rather it is missing many non alpha keys.
Yes, more or less this is the plan.
I think we will have a vote on the colorway for the alpha set. I think narrowed the choices white on grey, clear on grey or black, white on light blue, white on red as those that I feel probably have the highest chance of making moq.
Then depend on winner of colorway alpha, we then vote on colorway modifier to have something that is also complimentary in some way.
Also have classic modifier pack white on black 'lite' since many of the keys really are not necessary to replace, and one big 'Euro' keys pack in white on black.
I think this should be a good amount of things.
4 1x1 windowed key 1 for each row B-E profile mean one windowed 1x1 key for each row profile so you could put them on 2 W S X for example.
Those four colors are the most popular choices? I was expecting something that would match the purple mods more closely.
Problem is we have 400 MOQ, and a LOT of different tastes. It's really tough. I tried to be kind of safe, but not overly boring. It's a fine line to get.
Purple on Cream or on White to go with the set:(http://i.imgur.com/yPiCjjb.png)
Purple on Cream or on White to go with the set:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/yPiCjjb.png)
I'm all for this. It seems like most people two grabbed the purple mods would go for this.
btw, I cannot view the results. restricted access. :(
Purple on Cream or on White to go with the set:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/yPiCjjb.png)
I'm all for this. It seems like most people who grabbed the purple mods would go for this.
What do you mean by "match your alphas up 'at home'"?I was hinting at the tons of options to match the alphas up with cherry vintage or imsto or even sp sets, especially since most follow the two tone scheme.
What do you mean by "match your alphas up 'at home'"?I was hinting at the tons of options to match the alphas up with cherry vintage or imsto or even sp sets, especially since most follow the two tone scheme.
If you didn't buy purple it dosen't matter as you can put the alphas on with your white/black, Dolch, or whatever you have.Of course, this is only possible for ansi users. The rest of us have to combine them some very different sets to create a frankenstein set of lasered and doubleshots, as we have always been required to do to reach a full set.
May do the other than US layout specific keys too in one big pack white/black.
I really don't see an issue with only an alpha pack. It is going to be a complete set unlike the mods from last time that were focus on 60%. Regardless of what keyboard you have it will have every alphanumeric key. If you didn't buy purple it dosen't matter as you can put the alphas on with your white/black, Dolch, or whatever you have.
Can you explain please how the language packs will work? Are we supposed to hit 400 for each option?
I'd estimate there are max. 75 people interested in the DE/DK/NO/SF set and like 30 people ES/IT/PT and it will be very hard to even reach 300 for US/GB/JA.
Looking forward to when we are out of the testing stage and the real GB can happen. I was going to spread the news of this GB on the a large forum in my country, but I recon very few will be interested in an incomplete alpha-only set unfortunately and I will wait for the next one again.
we may need to roll up all the languages into the base set and it will just have to be more expensive set
Well not necessarily, we will have to see. But, to many surprise the DE/DK/NO/SF option is only a couple percent behind US/GB/JA right now.
I voted for the DE layout to help out :D
Whatever the decision on colour-scheme, will you consider adding an optional set for ergodox default layout?U can buy the dolch from originative, no need to run special GB for something thats available in other store in any given time
Personally, I prefer the Dolch's colour-scheme of medium and dark grey, and white legends.
coffee cream is good, mac modifiers? do mac uses special sizes for their modifiers? does GMK has molds for them? I have never seen apple keyboard with cherry switches.....
I would see the point where we need modifiers for different bottom layouts, then we need ISO and extra language packs. But if we keep adding things that will only bring only few people to the GB such as apple modifier users Ergodox, then we are looking at a full set of $150+.......... Pffffffffffff aint worth it no matter what color scheme comes out at the end....
coffee cream is good, mac modifiers? do mac uses special sizes for their modifiers? does GMK has molds for them? I have never seen apple keyboard with cherry switches.....
I would see the point where we need modifiers for different bottom layouts, then we need ISO and extra language packs. But if we keep adding things that will only bring only few people to the GB such as apple modifier users Ergodox, then we are looking at a full set of $150+.......... Pffffffffffff aint worth it no matter what color scheme comes out at the end....
oh maybe i called them wrong? sorry. no panic. i meant the command and alt keys. like the rain drop GB, they include the command key which is nice.
coffee cream is good, mac modifiers? do mac uses special sizes for their modifiers? does GMK has molds for them? I have never seen apple keyboard with cherry switches.....
I would see the point where we need modifiers for different bottom layouts, then we need ISO and extra language packs. But if we keep adding things that will only bring only few people to the GB such as apple modifier users Ergodox, then we are looking at a full set of $150+.......... Pffffffffffff aint worth it no matter what color scheme comes out at the end....
oh maybe i called them wrong? sorry. no panic. i meant the command and alt keys. like the rain drop GB, they include the command key which is nice.
ok so you are speaking of the legends right? GMK makes all needed modifiers and Lysol makes sure they are available in x1, x1.25, x1.50 for the bottom modifiers which I think you are speaking of. But they don't make the custom legends like SP does, even if they would most likely will cost a lot of money. even SP charges extra dinero for custom legends, but GMK just don't make them.
Whatever the decision on colour-scheme, will you consider adding an optional set for ergodox default layout?U can buy the dolch from originative, no need to run special GB for something thats available in other store in any given time
Personally, I prefer the Dolch's colour-scheme of medium and dark grey, and white legends.
Originative offer for Dolch is pre-order and the set they offer does not fit an standard ANSI keyboard, so there is a need for a a group buy to get an standard ANSI Dolch set in authentic cherry molding.
Keyset includes:
Includes 104 keycap for modern full size keyboards (ie. Filco, CM Storm),
1.5x modifiers, 7x space bar, and stepped caps lock (off-centered stem) for winkeyless keyboard for a total of 110 keys
First time ever thick Cherry window and menu keys
F and J keys are scooped
17 keys for tenkeypad
Originative offer for Dolch is pre-order and the set they offer does not fit an standard ANSI keyboard, so there is a need for a a group buy to get an standard ANSI Dolch set in authentic cherry molding.
How do you figure it doesn't fit standard ANSI?QuoteKeyset includes:
Includes 104 keycap for modern full size keyboards (ie. Filco, CM Storm),
1.5x modifiers, 7x space bar, and stepped caps lock (off-centered stem) for winkeyless keyboard for a total of 110 keys
First time ever thick Cherry window and menu keys
F and J keys are scooped
17 keys for tenkeypad
Originative offer for Dolch is pre-order and the set they offer does not fit an standard ANSI keyboard, so there is a need for a a group buy to get an standard ANSI Dolch set in authentic cherry molding.Whatever the decision on colour-scheme, will you consider adding an optional set for ergodox default layout?U can buy the dolch from originative, no need to run special GB for something thats available in other store in any given time
Personally, I prefer the Dolch's colour-scheme of medium and dark grey, and white legends.
Originative offer for Dolch is pre-order and the set they offer does not fit an standard ANSI keyboard, so there is a need for a a group buy to get an standard ANSI Dolch set in authentic cherry molding.Whatever the decision on colour-scheme, will you consider adding an optional set for ergodox default layout?U can buy the dolch from originative, no need to run special GB for something thats available in other store in any given time
Personally, I prefer the Dolch's colour-scheme of medium and dark grey, and white legends.
Are you sure what you saying dude?
Sherry Dolch exactly fits standard ANSI and more....
- has all bottom row mods 1.25 , 1.50
- spacebar x7 and x6.25
- capslock center stemmed full touch and off center stepped.
He will have this keys in near future:
- x1 blanks for the bottom row modifiers
- 1.75 shift
- top row x1 windowed keys for
Keyset includes:
•Includes 104 keycap for modern full size keyboards (ie. Filco, CM Storm),
•1.5x modifiers, 7x space bar, and stepped caps lock (off-centered stem) for winkeyless keyboard for a total of 110 keys
•First time ever thick Cherry window and menu keys
•F and J keys are scooped
•17 keys for tenkeypad
To me it looks like he has the ANSI layout covered pretty well.... Now maeby you got confused and what you really meant was ISO layout?
I can only imagine how many people preordered Dolch from him, I did too since price was right at $85.
If 300 people ordered Dolch set from Sherry, why they need to order again trough a GB that will most likely cost more, don't forget this GB with all the packs, languages and layouts will be more than what people got the Dolch with Sherry.
I know I'm skipping the GB if its going to be with anything that resembles Dolch, no matter if legends are different color.
What Lysol needs to do is drop the voting and start with mockups and do some retro style sets on his own. When he gets 5-6 sets with mockups, place them for voting, here are few ideas
- Bumblebee set black/yellow ( opposite of keypop.net) Black for alphanumeric and yellow for modifiers.
- Coffee and Cream
- Any well chosen color combo retro style with clear legends ( seemed lots of people wanted this when posting in this thread)
- Retro set?
- Retro set?
Have 5 sets like this so people can vote on.
No hard feeling at all dude, BTW Jocelyn turned out to respond faster since I started typing and got caught with something else and then posted it later on. when I started typing Jocelyn haven't responded at all.
Anyways this is a GB your right and people opinions matter, but if there would be a GB held for Dolch set only for people that didn't order from Sherry because of the lack of ISO layout option and language packs, how far would the number of orders go for that GB you think? probably wont even pass the 50 order mark, and this is why Dolch would fail, Sherry already got the upper hand and sold hundreds of them, same people wont buy the set again at higher price for the sake of other people having the opportunity to have ISO and language packs.
It sux for non ANSI users, but I think Dolch wont reach MOQ, or maeby I'm wrong? give it a shot and let people vote.
Anyways this is a GB your right and people opinions matter, but if there would be a GB held for Dolch set only for people that didn't order from Sherry because of the lack of ISO layout option and language packs, how far would the number of orders go for that GB you think? probably wont even pass the 50 order mark, and this is why Dolch would fail /snip
Anyways this is a GB your right and people opinions matter, but if there would be a GB held for Dolch set only for people that didn't order from Sherry because of the lack of ISO layout option and language packs, how far would the number of orders go for that GB you think? probably wont even pass the 50 order mark, and this is why Dolch would fail /snip
I believe that a popular less intrusive colourway would get far more buyers if done as a full set. It would allow people to get the major computer forums in several countries involved. That is what I believe needs to happen to make MOQ far easier to reach. That won't ever happen with incomplete sets or sets with too extreme colourways.
I understood the idea to do a "small set" buy with GMK to establish a working relationship, but we might need to toss out the idea of completing the purple modifiers with nav/arrow/F5-F8. Buying just alphas is a bad idea right now because if you didn't get in on the purple modifiers then you have nothing to pair it with. The best idea would be to "do it right" from here on out and just go for an entire set. Mission accomplished with GMK relationship, and I think everyone can accept that the purple modifier keys will look great on 60% boards and leave it at that. Maybe GMK will drop their MOQ in the future and we can re-visit finishing the purple set.
We should focus on one full set so that it appeals to everyone. Just bundle in the 1x, 1.25x, and 1.5x keys (don't forget 1.25 and 1.75x shifts), and the language packs and everyone ansi can suck it up and pay the extra $10-15 so our pals on the other side of the ocean can get some love for a change.
I still think that "unusual" colors are more attractiveMoreBurgundyShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/OvdNpqk.jpg)
CyanShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/V1FWb4H.jpg)
TealShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/ddS01cB.jpg)
I'd love to see a set in the Elecom Mapp mouse palette:Show Image(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5i4i5ragk1r4oppro1_1280.jpg)
I still think that "unusual" colors are more attractiveMoreBurgundyShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/OvdNpqk.jpg)
CyanShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/V1FWb4H.jpg)
TealShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/ddS01cB.jpg)
I've been wanting one of these similar colorways for a while:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7KsL5ja.png)
I guess I'm just of the mindset that a more common color primary color with a less common secondary color (the lettering) would have a better chance of hitting the MOQ.
If you want to make suggestions pick your one favorite make write in vote on the form is better. It is too easy for them to get lost in the thread.
There will be second round of voting, if there is lot of interest in something will add it on then. So if you favor a suggestion don't forget to enter it on the write in.
I don't see how those sets would work with purple mods...
It seems to me that many are worried to put something near those purple caps, if this is the purpose of this round 2 then lets make a simple purple on White Alpha set.
But maybe we can forget purple till round 3.
you just love white color lol
you just love white color lol
It's not bad, but some of my favorite sets are CCnG and Dolch, neither of which are white. I also love Miami. And of the ideas I posted, the Cyan on Gray is probably my favorite.
I'm just thinking in terms of the sets that were part of the last GB and what's most likely to sell. I'd love to see what modifiers that green, blue, or red would go with (aside from maybe Klaxon or Red Alert). I mean, going with something that clashes so horribly with the purple is kind of a middle finger to the people who bought the modifiers (at least to me) and going with colors that don't really go all that great with modifiers most people probably have on hand isn't really going to help with the MOQ. Going with something more toned down is more likely to help us hit that 400 MOQ than something that's outlandish.
I believe that Ivan's current set suggestions will look like the caps that EK just got in (http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,cherrymxkeys). The blue, green, and yellow caps look really nice.They indeed do, might have to change my votings based on those.
I'm positive people will accept the choice and show interest as long as the presentation is up to snuff.
Think that's a lesson learned from the mods buy.. the kids need pics.
I got arrow keys from EK today, in the green. It's the same green as Ivan's Esc key. A single key was a bit hard for me to judge, but with all 4 I think green mods would be awesome one day. :) A brighter CCnG (or GreenAlert, even better... I like WHITE).GreenAlert!! Make it happen :D
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I got arrow keys from EK today, in the green. It's the same green as Ivan's Esc key. A single key was a bit hard for me to judge, but with all 4 I think green mods would be awesome one day. :) A brighter CCnG (or GreenAlert, even better... I like WHITE).GreenAlert!! Make it happen :D
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I meant with WoG mods and GoW alphas :pI got arrow keys from EK today, in the green. It's the same green as Ivan's Esc key. A single key was a bit hard for me to judge, but with all 4 I think green mods would be awesome one day. :) A brighter CCnG (or GreenAlert, even better... I like WHITE).GreenAlert!! Make it happen :D
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http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43328.0
I got arrow keys from EK today, in the green. It's the same green as Ivan's Esc key. A single key was a bit hard for me to judge, but with all 4 I think green mods would be awesome one day. :) A brighter CCnG (or GreenAlert, even better... I like WHITE).
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What about a grey on grey set? I cant get the image to display for whatever reason... but clicking on the link seems to workShow Image(http://imgur.com/5MEBOc1)
... and keys are white. :rolleyes:
you can have that one at any time for $95 + shipping from originative, just legends are black.
... and keys are white. :rolleyes:
you can have that one at any time for $95 + shipping from originative, just legends are black.
But you could in fact buy a hellgrau lasered set from Cherry, that's pretty much the same for the alphas. No need for doubleshots if there's no contrast anyway.
if only that MOQ was around 150-200I think they would make sp go out of business with an moq of like 100?
if only that MOQ was around 150-200I think they would make sp go out of business with an moq of like 100?
Well maybe what I said seems a bit ignorant but when it actually comes to using the keycaps I feel that GMK/ cherry is miles ahead of SP.
I think I will be combining the DE/DK/NO/SF and ES/IT/PT into one larger pack
What is the likelihood of ever seeing a Ctrl key for the Caps lock position in one of these GB's? Is it a molds issue or just not enough interest?
That was also considered, but GMK didn't want to split the shipment into more than 50/50 exactly which wasn't going to be of a good benefit. It just makes things more complicated if I have to collect different prices for people depending on which region they are for taxes and such.
I asked them to scan it for me LOL.
First time I asked about a catalog, I was informed they only have the original hard copy from Cherry they got in the sale. Some set of books with like 1200 pages or something... I asked them to scan it for me LOL.
First time I asked about a catalog, I was informed they only have the original hard copy from Cherry they got in the sale. Some set of books with like 1200 pages or something... I asked them to scan it for me LOL.You can ask them to send it to a German GHer, if they are not willing to scan over 1000 pages.
First time I asked about a catalog, I was informed they only have the original hard copy from Cherry they got in the sale. Some set of books with like 1200 pages or something... I asked them to scan it for me LOL.
Sure I won't stop you from sending me to Germany, but I am unlikely to come back from Europe if so... :))
Results won't be revealed until ordering starts. Just waiting for final pricing from GMK and I will get it moved into groupbuy then as soon as they get back to me with everything.
GAH! PayPal needs to hurry up and resolve my chargebacks so I can actually do things...
There is only a 40% interest in the purple nav pack according to the voting. I strongly doubt we will move forward with that. Purple will just be what it is, a great set for 60% keyboards or accent keys.
Thanks! The last couple transactions I've made, they were kind enough to allow me to mail out a money order. Maybe I could send one to someone who could then proxy my order.
Thanks! The last couple transactions I've made, they were kind enough to allow me to mail out a money order. Maybe I could send one to someone who could then proxy my order.
Chase quick pay!
I did have some extras of certain keys that I sold so some were probably able to do such things. I still have some stuff that I will release for sale soon from the last buy. I held onto some things to ensure I could send things to fix any of my packing errors. If we ever do any purple again I don't imagine it will be any time soon.
Generally though, I have it in mind as 1 set, 1 keyboard. I know many people appreciate economy, but I have to do some things to help make sure we can make the MOQs.
In regard to payment for further buys I am looking into some alternatives, as I would like to avoid using paypal anymore at all. Right now the most likely choice is dwolla (https://www.dwolla.com/).
i saw a post on deskthorithy about the paypal issues. is dwolla allowing you set up something like a non profit?
There is only a 40% interest in the purple nav pack according to the voting. I strongly doubt we will move forward with that. Purple will just be what it is, a great set for 60% keyboards or accent keys.
There is only a 40% interest in the purple nav pack according to the voting. I strongly doubt we will move forward with that. Purple will just be what it is, a great set for 60% keyboards or accent keys.
Does that mean you don't even list the purple nav pack in your upcoming GB or do you mean it's just not likely it will reach MOQ?
I dont know if someone mentioned here already, but it would be nice if a "command" key (1.25)can be included in the set. Im sure there are a few mac users out there. :D
I dont know if someone mentioned here already, but it would be nice if a "command" key (1.25)can be included in the set. Im sure there are a few mac users out there. :D
There are.
Seen this (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44482.0)?
I don't believe there is a Command, Cmd, or st. Johns arms glyph legend existing for Cherry. GMK won't cut new legends for us just yet. Also I don't really know how much interest there really is as I tried to offer Mac version in my dyesubs buy and it didn't even reach 20 sets so I scrapped the option.
Almost ready to move this along, but in case you haven't voted it's still not too late. I have added a couple more mock ups of what they will contain finally. Just working on some legend availability issues so some packs legends may be subject to change yet, or we may have a few pad printed keys possibly. Once everything is locked down and I have final pricing I will get it moved on to buy status. Hopefully this will happen in the next week or so.
Almost ready to move this along, but in case you haven't voted it's still not too late. I have added a couple more mock ups of what they will contain finally. Just working on some legend availability issues so some packs legends may be subject to change yet, or we may have a few pad printed keys possibly. Once everything is locked down and I have final pricing I will get it moved on to buy status. Hopefully this will happen in the next week or so.
or we may have a few pad printed keys possibly.
How's the poll looking for the colorways?I too am curious about this. When will you reveal the color results?
I will reveal the winner when I start taking orders, or in other words when I post the new thread in the groupbuys section.You are such a tease mister lysol. :P
I will reveal the winner when I start taking orders, or in other words when I post the new thread in the groupbuys section.
As soon as GMK gives me all the final pricing. Apparently they are in a busy time so they are taking quite long to get back to me.
As soon as GMK gives me all the final pricing. Apparently they are in a busy time so they are taking quite long to get back to me.It's also holiday time here in Germany, so they might be short on staff.
Hoping the grey alphas go through with the black modifiers, I'm thinking dolch!
I hope it's anything with some sort of color, it would be a shame to pass on this one :(
Dolch keycaps are already widely available (you can get e.g. PAC62s on ebay for reasonable prices, and there's also sherry's preorder). Why bother remaking something so similar to it?
I hope it's anything with some sort of color, it would be a shame to pass on this one :(
Dolch keycaps are already widely available (you can get e.g. PAC62s on ebay for reasonable prices, and there's also sherry's preorder). Why bother remaking something so similar to it?
What's up with those lazy bavarians?
Fachkräftemangel oder was?
They didn't finish legends auditing and pricing quote before they went to vacation. Due to that buy probably won't be starting until September now and shoot for going to production October. Until then the polling is still active so you can feel free to campaign it on other forums.
White on black is going forward for sure, not certain about the white on purple as interest is not very high. Would still need to meet the production MOQ if it goes on to ordering phase to be produced.
How about a full GMK CMYK base, mod & num set, that would look pretty swaggy imho. :cool:
I just handled a GMK doubleshot cap for the first time and I'm loving their thickness, highest quality I've ever seen. Someone mock up a CMYK base set so I can see what it looks like hah!
Dolch + RGB mods!! Please, Please, Please!!!
Probably not this time. I will take some consideration for more esoteric things when we get to black on white/beige. I think it will be best to do things like matrix and edox compatibility, reissues of odd terminal legends and other oddities on the safest colorway.
Probably not this time. I will take some consideration for more esoteric things when we get to black on white/beige. I think it will be best to do things like matrix and edox compatibility, reissues of odd terminal legends and other oddities on the safest colorway.
Probably not this time. I will take some consideration for more esoteric things when we get to black on white/beige. I think it will be best to do things like matrix and edox compatibility, reissues of odd terminal legends and other oddities on the safest colorway.
Okay then. I'd like that in WoB then, as well!
what about stepped capslock w/ led window?
+1what about stepped capslock w/ led window?
Oh yeah, stepped capslock w/led window: num & scroll locks with led windows!! DROOL!
Hopefully I will get our pricing next week as they are supposed to be back from their vacation time then.
Hopefully I will get our pricing next week as they are supposed to be back from their vacation time then.
Also, could we get 7x black spacebars? It's always hard to come by those with the 1.5x mods in WoB.
THIS a thousand timesAlso, could we get 7x black spacebars? It's always hard to come by those with the 1.5x mods in WoB.
I think offering a space-bar 'pack' would be a good idea. Something like you get the matched ones for the alphas by default and then people could add on a 4-pack of space-bars in white/black & 6.25/7u.
THIS a thousand timesAlso, could we get 7x black spacebars? It's always hard to come by those with the 1.5x mods in WoB.
I think offering a space-bar 'pack' would be a good idea. Something like you get the matched ones for the alphas by default and then people could add on a 4-pack of space-bars in white/black & 6.25/7u.
A question about the lock icon appearing on the caps lock key: where did this come from and why is it being used? I haven't performed an exhaustive search of the history of Cherry Keyboards, but from what I can tell, that lock icon is not used by cherry. Does this have to be used, or can we get a caps lock (stepped, preferrably) with the Cherry Legend on it?
Humbly,
K
Ivan has decided to use pure graphic legends wherever possible. I appreciate that decision, they look much nicer.
The "handbag" has always been the standard caps lock icon on the french keyboard layouts, not only with Cherry. Search for AZERTY keyboard on Google image search. Cherry and IBM seem to have used it on all ISO terminal Model Ms, too ( http://www.9999hp.net/keyboard/temp/ ). I have it on my German M-122, too.
Ivan has decided to use pure graphic legends wherever possible. I appreciate that decision, they look much nicer.
Handbag is my favorite, it looks really nice on my purple mods set.
Handbag is my favorite, it looks really nice on my purple mods set.
LOL this is really killing me now. Every time I look at the caps lock on my CCnG all I see is a f***ing lady's purse. Don't get me wrong: I'll live, but F**K. LOL.
Yeah it's happening. Groupbuy thread should be up later since I got the qoutes this morning. I need to get everything organized and the mock ups updated since there are some small changes.
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Yeah it's happening. Groupbuy thread should be up later since I got the qoutes this morning. I need to get everything organized and the mock ups updated since there are some small changes.
I realized there was some keys missing from the Euro pack, so I am just waiting quote adjustment after I sent GMK the corrections. I also noticed that some other languages are going to be pretty close to taken care of missing only unique accented character like Estonian. I don't know if we have any members there, but if so you are covered.
Yes. It will have every key for GH60 but that layout with the 1.25 enter key. Any other possible arrangement that uses either an ISO or ANSI standard enter is 100% with support for more than a dozen language layouts possible. Of course this means Poker and Pure are also taken care of.
OH, and also... I will go ahead and announce the winner, which little surprise is grey with 53% of votes and runner up blue with 39%. That means we will be doing darker Dolch like scheme.
Purple nav pack didn't get enough votes to satisfy me that it will make MOQ. Perhaps we will revisit it some other time.
Yes. It will have every key for GH60 but that layout with the 1.25 enter key. Any other possible arrangement that uses either an ISO or ANSI standard enter is 100% with support for more than a dozen language layouts possible. Of course this means Poker and Pure are also taken care of.
OH, and also... I will go ahead and announce the winner, which little surprise is grey with 53% of votes and runner up blue with 39%. That means we will be doing darker Dolch like scheme.
Purple nav pack didn't get enough votes to satisfy me that it will make MOQ. Perhaps we will revisit it some other time.
I realized there was some keys missing from the Euro pack, so I am just waiting quote adjustment after I sent GMK the corrections.Which you won't get before Monday :(
Great to hear that grey won the vote! That will make it significantly easier to reach MOQ on euro sets!
want a white on black iso ds set! for the love of god i hope thats an option!
Slightly darker than dolch grey if I'm not mistaken.want a white on black iso ds set! for the love of god i hope thats an option!
it isn't, combo is black for modifiers and the alpha numeric as the original dolch grey aka in retro style
OH, and also... I will go ahead and announce the winner, which little surprise is grey with 53% of votes and runner up blue with 39%. That means we will be doing darker Dolch like scheme.
That's what I remember, too.Slightly darker than dolch grey if I'm not mistaken.want a white on black iso ds set! for the love of god i hope thats an option!
it isn't, combo is black for modifiers and the alpha numeric as the original dolch grey aka in retro style
It will resemble something like this...
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It will resemble something like this...DOLCH DOLCH DOLCH
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It will resemble something like this...
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It will resemble something like this...
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so the alpha's are going to be darker gray? Same dark gray as the modifiers? Or in other words if I take my scitex board and put black mods on it it will be this GB is?
Sorry for the hold up, there have been some concerns about legends so making sure to have all of that worked out first.
I updated the OP with current charts of what I requested for each pack.
Scoops, I need scoops
Yep me too. Once this is done it would be cool to do some color schemes like below, do some bright alphas with white mods and then people can pair them up with other mods as well for a more traditional looking color scheme. Or just go one solid color for the whole lot with an additional mod color available. Doesn't have to be blue but this illustrated my point, if we're careful with colorway selection we can get some interesting alphas that will work as a standalone set or in conjunction with stuff people have already purchased.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Gv6c3Q9.png)
Actually the EURO pack price will probably be the same as the base set price, or very close as it is. It's true we could get the price down by removing those extra 3rd legend versions, but I don't see the fun in not doing the layouts right. I think those little details are one of the things that may draw in more people by having their correct layout. But it's just a guess.
I want to keep in the BASE set the blank and numbers row without any shifted legends as an option for all the people who use other national layout that can't be included right now. I think it may be a good compromise situation as one can use those generic keys which some may feel are better than a wrong character. Additionally the blank keys can come in handy on some other keyboards like 75% or 122key, some may prefer the less busy look of the numbers only , or they could be used as the upper deck of function keys on a 122.
Blanks are also very handy for those of us with keyboards with media or macro keys - like the CM Storm Trigger.
I really appreciate the attention to detail on the Euro legends, it'll make it much easier to swap key sets on many ISO boards.Actually the EURO pack price will probably be the same as the base set price, or very close as it is. It's true we could get the price down by removing those extra 3rd legend versions, but I don't see the fun in not doing the layouts right. I think those little details are one of the things that may draw in more people by having their correct layout. But it's just a guess.
I want to keep in the BASE set the blank and numbers row without any shifted legends as an option for all the people who use other national layout that can't be included right now. I think it may be a good compromise situation as one can use those generic keys which some may feel are better than a wrong character. Additionally the blank keys can come in handy on some other keyboards like 75% or 122key, some may prefer the less busy look of the numbers only , or they could be used as the upper deck of function keys on a 122.
Ok here are images of the actual colors on an actual keyboard. And yes it does look awesome in person and everyone should buy 2 sets when the GB begins :thumb:
-white-on-black modifiers are just the normal ones from any Cherry keyboard
-white-on-DARK-gray alpha+num are from a scitex board and are the same DARK gray color as the modifiers on a standard Dolch keyboard
--I put it in a beige case as the dark gray scitex made it too hard to see the differences
(http://i.imgur.com/qjtrQbr.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/qjtrQbr.jpg)
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BTW Ivan - can we get F1-F4 & F9-F12 in alpha colors as well?
Anyone know when this GB will launch?
I do? :)) I'm still waiting for the final everything is good to go from GMK. As soon as I have it I will get it rolling. I imagine it should start within this month at least...
No, I am putting an end to that wrongness. Function keys are not alphas, so they aren't going to be alpha colors unless the entire keyset is one base color.
Thanks for taking the photos flynn.
I can't speak for Ivan, but I think this would be very helpful :thumb:
No, I am putting an end to that wrongness. Function keys are not alphas, so they aren't going to be alpha colors unless the entire keyset is one base color.
I imagine it should start within this month at least...
Well, no harm in having the F1-F4 and F9-F12 in the lighter grey for those who want it this way? 8 additional keycaps, no biggie, right? RIGHT?!
Additionally: say I have an existing two-tone set (e.g. from Cherry, Dolch, SP, Imsto or whatever), and I'd like to combine its second-color keys with the alpha set from this GB. Then I can't do that because the F-Keys are missing?
I also think there is no harm in offering both :)
i might just match a base set with beige mods :pSee -- you can't, because currently it seems that you won't get function keys F1-F4 and F-F12 with the base set, and you also won't have those in your beige modifiers.
Maybe it's just me, but I don't see the argument in this case. I don't imagine many people pairing these up with other than white/black, Dolch or SkiData. There really is not much else that is common enough that it will be a major consideration to match up with right now. Later when we do black on color or color on white keys I may reconsider the Fkeys as that will be more of a consideration on matching with the most common black on white/beige sets.
And there seem to be people whole just like the mixed-colored function row better. No idea how many.
So am I.And there seem to be people whole just like the mixed-colored function row better. No idea how many.
I am one of them. I wouldn't mind paying a little extra to get both options ;)
Will there be no ISO for this?
Will there be no ISO for this?
All ISO keys are included in the Mod Pack - look again ;)
Me too. I don't mind admitting that I am decidedly not a touch typist. Nor do I have any intention of pursuing the skill at that level. The contrast provided by by the differing colors helps me find stuff faster.
And I just happen to like the look better. I'm not faulting people who like single color layouts, that's your taste. My taste favors two-tone layouts.
How about a compromise then, with 8 more blank E row keys in the ALPHA set since that could be a lot more versatile? You could make color alternating F row, or other things that way.
No ISO? Wouldn't that be funny, with all those European languages. Perhaps another thing I can resolve, the destruction of ISO >:D
I am totally too stupid to use blank keys as proxies for F keys. Totally. I mean silly stupid. I'm silly, I tell ya, silly stupid.
I'd prefer legends as I think it would look weird having only F5-F8 with them.
... and I think it would be wrong to save a couple of bucks by skipping legends.
... and I think it would be wrong to save a couple of bucks by skipping legends.
The problem with that argument is that we're already at 235 keys just to outfit a keyboard with eg. a german layout. 181 if you only want support for 60%. I am very curious as to what the price for all this will be... and If I can afford 2 sets ;)
I just realized there are no "insert", "home", etc. keys but only symbols in the Nav Pack. I have to say I don't like that too much and have never seen a Cherry Board with those legends. Can anybody post a real life picture of a board with those symbols please?Thanks, I hadn't seen that either. Home/End and PgUp/PgDn legends look very nice to me, here's a vintage board with these symbols:
So, fellow prospective buyers, what do you think?
Alright, I will just contact GMK back and inform them we will take one of each legend and key size combination they have
Alright, I will just contact GMK back and inform them we will take one of each legend and key size combination they have... :)) $4000 sets are not a problem right guys?
I think the symbols are fine, except the delete facing the wrong direction...
+1I think the symbols are fine, except the delete facing the wrong direction...+1
olivetti, triumph-adler (preferably the muted blue-green ones with matching mods but the lime green is nice too), coffee/cream and amiga!!
it would be nice to see some tasteful sets before silly additions like rainbow,rgb, skidataShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/EVC7O.jpg)
+1I think the symbols are fine, except the delete facing the wrong direction...+1
olivetti, triumph-adler (preferably the muted blue-green ones with matching mods but the lime green is nice too), coffee/cream and amiga!!
it would be nice to see some tasteful sets before silly additions like rainbow,rgb, skidataShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/EVC7O.jpg)
Jwaz,
I came across this pic while I was reviewing the thread and I was wondering if you could post a couple more pics of these keys. I'm trying to see if there's any difference in the quality of GMK keys based on their point of purchase. I just got my first set and I guess it tickles my fancy to dig in a bit more.
Also, what's the history of these keys? Originals, purchase, etc?
Cheers,
K
olivetti, triumph-adler (preferably the muted blue-green ones with matching mods but the lime green is nice too), coffee/cream and amiga!!
it would be nice to see some tasteful sets before silly additions like rainbow,rgb, skidataShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/EVC7O.jpg)
Jwaz,
I came across this pic while I was reviewing the thread and I was wondering if you could post a couple more pics of these keys. I'm trying to see if there's any difference in the quality of GMK keys based on their point of purchase. I just got my first set and I guess it tickles my fancy to dig in a bit more.
Also, what's the history of these keys? Originals, purchase, etc?
Cheers,
K
That's a Dolch set with RGB mods from one of the various GB's. Dolch sets until recently have only been available on old Dolch PAC boards and as far as I know no-one has any of the new sets from Originative yet.
olivetti, triumph-adler (preferably the muted blue-green ones with matching mods but the lime green is nice too), coffee/cream and amiga!!
it would be nice to see some tasteful sets before silly additions like rainbow,rgb, skidataShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/EVC7O.jpg)
Jwaz,
I came across this pic while I was reviewing the thread and I was wondering if you could post a couple more pics of these keys. I'm trying to see if there's any difference in the quality of GMK keys based on their point of purchase. I just got my first set and I guess it tickles my fancy to dig in a bit more.
Also, what's the history of these keys? Originals, purchase, etc?
Cheers,
K
That's a Dolch set with RGB mods from one of the various GB's. Dolch sets until recently have only been available on old Dolch PAC boards and as far as I know no-one has any of the new sets from Originative yet.
By my eyes, that RGB set is an original Cherry dyesub set from a Desko keyboard, with A profile bottom row. (Could possibly be BSP, as I believe they've run those in a GB, as well as the B profile.)
That being said, if you were wanting doubleshot ABS to match, the ones with white legends were offered by originativeco. Whereas those with black legends were offered by them, as well as currently being on offer by Redline.
olivetti, triumph-adler (preferably the muted blue-green ones with matching mods but the lime green is nice too), coffee/cream and amiga!!
it would be nice to see some tasteful sets before silly additions like rainbow,rgb, skidataShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/EVC7O.jpg)
Jwaz,
I came across this pic while I was reviewing the thread and I was wondering if you could post a couple more pics of these keys. I'm trying to see if there's any difference in the quality of GMK keys based on their point of purchase. I just got my first set and I guess it tickles my fancy to dig in a bit more.
Also, what's the history of these keys? Originals, purchase, etc?
Cheers,
K
That's a Dolch set with RGB mods from one of the various GB's. Dolch sets until recently have only been available on old Dolch PAC boards and as far as I know no-one has any of the new sets from Originative yet.
By my eyes, that RGB set is an original Cherry dyesub set from a Desko keyboard, with A profile bottom row. (Could possibly be BSP, as I believe they've run those in a GB, as well as the B profile.)
That being said, if you were wanting doubleshot ABS to match, the ones with white legends were offered by originativeco. Whereas those with black legends were offered by them, as well as currently being on offer by Redline.
I'm particularly interested in the provenance (maybe it doesn't sound too silly to use that word to describe the ownership chain of a set of keys) of the Alpha Base set, Numbers, functions and non-RGB modifiers. Jwaz???
If we can help reach MOQ, let me know.
If we can help reach MOQ, let me know.
If we can help reach MOQ, let me know.
We will be adding white on grey F1 - F12 to the ALPHA base set, so you can alternate them in groups or every other key or whatever you like.
As before, vendors are welcome to participate in the groupbuy just like anyone free to order quantities for self or resale at your discretion. I don't impose any terms with what you do with what you buy.
Small update, some of the things that were requested most recently will be taken care of.
We will be adding white on grey F1 - F12 to the ALPHA base set, so you can alternate them in groups or every other key or whatever you like.
The insert legend is being changed to the ^a legend suggested by Halvar. The other delete legend was not available so we will be staying with the < X ] like legend.
Every legend but those on windowed keys will be doubleshots :)
I was able to negotiate for a special surprise key that will be included on me in each order :O
Still waiting for the final pricing, which I will get with some nice renders from GMK hopefully early next week.
I'd be in for a dolch set for sure. The layout and colours you decided on are perfect.
I want to try for a 30day ordering window so this doesn't keep dragging on and we can turn to the next round with some other colors sooner.
Just so you're clear these aren't actually Dolch colors, the mods are black and the alphas are slightly darker than Dolch.
Just so you're clear these aren't actually Dolch colors, the mods are black and the alphas are slightly darker than Dolch.
It's a brilliant colour design because I can still use the original PBT black spacer key on my G80-1865 model. That damn small spacer isn't made by anyone, not even SP bothers to make it.
[...] I have a suggestion, why not make a 1.25 left shift for the rgb sets that already exists? Would be really cool.
I'd be in for a dolch set for sure. The layout and colours you decided on are perfect.
Just so you're clear these aren't actually Dolch colors, the mods are black and the alphas are slightly darker than Dolch.
Will do version of RGB eventually like same as CMYK key wise, perhaps next time. I have some ideas... for something a little different also. We will see what takes.
We will be adding white on grey F1 - F12 to the ALPHA base set, so you can alternate them in groups or every other key or whatever you like.
The insert legend is being changed to the ^a legend suggested by Halvar. The other delete legend was not available so we will be staying with the < X ] like legend.
Every legend but those on windowed keys will be doubleshots :)
I was able to negotiate for a special surprise key that will be included on me in each order :O
I'd be in for a dolch set for sure. The layout and colours you decided on are perfect.
Just so you're clear these aren't actually Dolch colors, the mods are black and the alphas are slightly darker than Dolch.
I'd be in for a dolch set for sure. The layout and colours you decided on are perfect.
Just so you're clear these aren't actually Dolch colors, the mods are black and the alphas are slightly darker than Dolch.
the underlined statement above isn't correct. In a standard Dolch set there is a light gray (alphas) and dark gray (mods)
In Ivan's proposed set the alpha's are the same dark gray color as the modifier keys in a standard Dolch set. That is what my picture that Ivan put in the OP is showing as I do have the dark gray alpha's already from a different board.
I feel you here, moose, I really do: every time I see the WoRGBs I've thought the same thing.
But my question is: on a WoX keyboard (think of X as an arbitrary, probably dark, color), what is going to look more 'off':
WoRGB
or
BoRGB?
I truly don't know because I don't have a dark set of GMKs with White legends, nor a set of WoRGBs. I've seen a bunch of pics, though...
I can't help but think that the only way that WoRGB could be improved is to darken all three shades of RGB a bit. Make them less bright and this would probably work better.
Because R, G and B are primary I'm thinking they could be darkened quite a bit beyond what we see these days with no loss of contrast.
This is not for this time obviously, but my idea for RGB is this...
RGB legends on beige, black keys. Will get both base colors in same 'set'. It's something 'new' and it will still go along with most common sets that already exist. Something more sublte with a still classic flavor. What do you think of that?
This is not for this time obviously, but my idea for RGB is this...
RGB legends on beige, black keys. Will get both base colors in same 'set'. It's something 'new' and it will still go along with most common sets that already exist. Something more sublte with a still classic flavor. What do you think of that?
Perhaps it's better to have it separate, like we did CMYK? I suppose we could include this alternate versions in the MOD pack when we run black/beige as a whole and come back to the black keys again later? It dosen't matter to me much.
Perhaps it's better to have it separate, like we did CMYK? I suppose we could include this alternate versions in the MOD pack when we run black/beige as a whole and come back to the black keys again later? It dosen't matter to me much.
Right no worries, the white on dark grey/black will be going full ahead as soon as I get the pricing.
We also use this thread for any and all other ideas as well, which may or may not lead to things that will happen in the future :)
This is not for this time obviously, but my idea for RGB is this...
RGB legends on beige, black keys. Will get both base colors in same 'set'. It's something 'new' and it will still go along with most common sets that already exist. Something more sublte with a still classic flavor. What do you think of that?
oh god yes
This is not for this time obviously, but my idea for RGB is this...
RGB legends on beige, black keys. Will get both base colors in same 'set'. It's something 'new' and it will still go along with most common sets that already exist. Something more sublte with a still classic flavor. What do you think of that?
What's up with those lazy bavarians?
Fachkräftemangel oder was?
1 Venus day = 243 Earth days.
That could try some people's patience.
Is it possible to get a ROUGH estimate of how much this set will cost?
While I haven't gotten final pricing yet, an older estimate I think these will be around $45-$55 each for BASE, MOD and NAV $40-55 for one of language pack.
how about a group buy of GMK led window keycaps?
+100how about a group buy of GMK led window keycaps?
+1
Or non-wapred PBT space bars matching the ABS colours since Cherry was able to make really black PBT space bars back in the days.
How about a group buy for white on burgundy mods?
How about a group buy for white on burgundy mods?
How about a group buy for white on burgundy mods?
How about a group buy for white on burgundy mods?Show Image(http://i4.minus.com/ibqu0OhIjorukU.jpg)
Would pair pretty nicely with Dolch.
How about a group buy for white on burgundy mods?Show Image(http://i4.minus.com/ibqu0OhIjorukU.jpg)
Would pair pretty nicely with Dolch.
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I think brighter red is better...
How about a group buy for white on burgundy mods?Show Image(http://i4.minus.com/ibqu0OhIjorukU.jpg)
Would pair pretty nicely with Dolch.
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I think brighter red is better...
I'd have to disagree. The burgundy looks much better. The beauty of Dolch is the simplivcity and understated look. The burgundy keeps it looking classy.
If people vote for colorways that can reach the MOQ I really don't care what it is, new or classic repros.That's the problem too many different opinions on different colorways that don't add up to the MOQ!!