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Title: GMK RGB samples over here!
Post by: phetto on Mon, 21 January 2013, 07:38:19
This is what I understand from the translation.

GMK ****ed up the profile of the new rgb, the blue alt is the old profile in comparison.

EDIT: Found out that this is the sample they got and they are going to change it into the profile we are used to see these in.

(http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/files/attach/images/30354/491/783/005/ed7d471c5088057b8d37a731d7a1b1fc.jpg)
Title: Re: Looks like GMK made RGB DS for KBDmania, but in the wrong profile!
Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 21 January 2013, 07:40:41
DS=doubleshot in this case, right? Or are those dyesub?
Title: Re: Looks like GMK made RGB DS for KBDmania, but in the wrong profile!
Post by: phetto on Mon, 21 January 2013, 07:42:18
doubleshots
Title: Re: Looks like GMK made RGB DS for KBDmania, but in the wrong profile!
Post by: tinlong117 on Mon, 21 January 2013, 07:48:12
oops.
Title: Re: Looks like GMK made RGB DS for KBDmania, but in the wrong profile!
Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 21 January 2013, 07:49:56
So the taller ones are the "mistake"? Honestly, I like them. It seems they'd be the same height as the bottom row of the black on beige set I have, and they'd match well with the legends matching.
Title: Re: Looks like GMK made RGB DS for KBDmania, but in the wrong profile!
Post by: inlikeflynn on Mon, 21 January 2013, 07:55:55
Lysol has a better description of this somewhere, but I cannot find it

Originally Control/Alt row had its own profile, which is what the mistake keys have here.
Later cherry switched so that Control/Alt used the same profile as zxcv row, which is what we are all used to and expect to receive

Now it will be interesting to see what GMK does for Customer Service to fix this as you could argue that it is not their fault.....
Title: Re: Looks like GMK made RGB DS for KBDmania, but in the wrong profile!
Post by: phetto on Mon, 21 January 2013, 07:57:12
Interesting
Title: Re: Looks like GMK made RGB DS for KBDmania, but in the wrong profile!
Post by: baldgye on Mon, 21 January 2013, 08:02:34
And the many problems with dealing with people who are 'new' to this kind of scene begin!

Don't see it as a problem though, if the people ordering didn't specify you can't blame them GMK..
Title: Re: Looks like GMK made RGB DS for KBDmania, but in the wrong profile!
Post by: SmallFry on Mon, 21 January 2013, 08:05:30
Live and learn. I hope it was a prototype so they didn't produce 500 or whatever the MOQ is for GMK.
Title: Re: Looks like GMK made RGB DS for KBDmania, but in the wrong profile!
Post by: phetto on Mon, 21 January 2013, 08:06:09
I just talked to the kbd guys and it's only a sample. They will try to fix the profile to the one we are used to.
Title: Looks like GMK made RGB DS for KBDmania, but in the wrong profile!
Post by: Halverson on Mon, 21 January 2013, 08:06:49
Ahh thank goodness for samples
Title: Re: Looks like GMK made RGB DS for KBDmania, but in the wrong profile!
Post by: inlikeflynn on Mon, 21 January 2013, 08:07:07
[size=78%]Below is the exact post by Lysol. just pasted here for reference:[/size]

You have old Cherry A profile modifier, which was dropped a LONG time ago. Now bottom row is B profile same as shift row.
(http://www.cherrycorp.com/english/switches/key/images/mx_keydim_cyl.gif)
specification diagram from Cherry.
Title: Re: Looks like GMK made RGB DS for KBDmania, but in the wrong profile!
Post by: SmallFry on Mon, 21 January 2013, 08:10:02
Well, its good that they have samples. Just gotta be patient since this isn't Melissa, and she isn't here to fix all our boo boos. :P Gotta give her props, she takes a LOT of crap from us/KBDMania/OTD/DT etc.
Title: Re: Looks like GMK made RGB DS for KBDmania, but in the wrong profile!
Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 21 January 2013, 08:10:07
I wish I could get ahold of that sample.
Title: Re: Looks like GMK made RGB DS for KBDmania, but in the wrong profile!
Post by: baldgye on Mon, 21 January 2013, 08:13:29
I just talked to the kbd guys and it's only a sample. They will try to fix the profile to the one we are used to.

might be an idea to change the title then ;)
Title: Re: GMK RGB samples over here!
Post by: phetto on Mon, 21 January 2013, 09:04:01
Title changed =)
Title: Re: GMK RGB samples over here!
Post by: kaiserreich on Mon, 21 January 2013, 09:34:03
If anything, I'd love the lower profile ones to better fit the white on black DS set.
Title: Re: GMK RGB samples over here!
Post by: phetto on Mon, 21 January 2013, 09:41:19
same here

btw nice avatar
Title: Re: GMK RGB samples over here!
Post by: Alessandro on Mon, 21 January 2013, 09:42:26
GIMME!
Title: Re: GMK RGB samples over here!
Post by: Acetrak on Mon, 21 January 2013, 10:41:00
That ABS blue color is nice!

I don't think I'd mind the profiles that much unless I'm using zxcv profile 1x winkeys :)
Title: Re: GMK RGB samples over here!
Post by: Glissant on Mon, 21 January 2013, 11:01:13
Mmmm pretty keycaps are pretty. Posting to mostly lurk and post cats.

By the way, did Cherry ever produce rgb with white legends?
Title: Re: GMK RGB samples over here!
Post by: DanGWanG on Mon, 21 January 2013, 11:02:35
Actually, I'd prefer a set of the messed up profile ones since they match up with the Dolch and Black DS better
Title: Re: GMK RGB samples over here!
Post by: SmallFry on Mon, 21 January 2013, 11:14:20
Match up profile wise?
Title: Re: GMK RGB samples over here!
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 21 January 2013, 11:18:57
The ones with A profile would be more authentic technically. I would guess they send a picture of original RGB which are A profile control and alt and say we want this, so GMK gave them what they saw.

I've never seen Cherry RGB with white. Dyesub is most common, but there have been some sightings of doubleshots also with black legend.

Dolch is B profile bottom row, I have also never seen a black set with A profile either. B profile is by far more common on anything that is not beige.
Title: Re: GMK RGB samples over here!
Post by: SmallFry on Mon, 21 January 2013, 11:20:23
Chaos has sold the DS black on RGB doubleshots IIRC. He asked something crazy like $400.
Title: Re: GMK RGB samples over here!
Post by: DanGWanG on Mon, 21 January 2013, 11:26:31
Match up profile wise?

Yup!  Exactly what lysol said.  I'd be interested in a set of DS RGB in B profile to match Dolch and Black DS.  For winkeyless keyboards, it's not a big deal.  But when I use the DESKO RGB's on a keyboard that is 1.5/1/1.5, the 1-unit key never matches up if I use Dolch or Black doubleshots...
Title: Re: GMK RGB samples over here!
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 21 January 2013, 11:43:36
Yeah 1 unit A profile Windows or blank key is a real pain to locate... though I have some. B profile is much more pleasant to type on anyway.
Title: Re: GMK RGB samples over here!
Post by: Jmneuv on Mon, 21 January 2013, 15:42:27
Not the Aaaaaaaaa profile !!

i actually was afraid that this could happen, since original cherry ds equipment was mentioned..
good it's just prototypes
Title: Re: GMK RGB samples over here!
Post by: singaporean123 on Mon, 21 January 2013, 20:22:02
Do people actually like the black on dark RGBs?  :eek:
Title: Re: GMK RGB samples over here!
Post by: SmallFry on Mon, 21 January 2013, 20:23:23
Well, people seem to like dye subbed RGB's which have black legends, so I'd say that people will like these also. :)
Title: Re: GMK RGB samples over here!
Post by: singaporean123 on Mon, 21 January 2013, 20:24:38
Well, people seem to like dye subbed RGB's which have black legends, so I'd say that people will like these also. :)

I have no idea why I get you and theprofofist(?) mixed up all the time!

I just feel that the colours look a tad bit dull :/
Title: Re: GMK RGB samples over here!
Post by: SmallFry on Mon, 21 January 2013, 20:40:55
I'm not sure why either. The colors look alright to me,maybe its your monitor or the photo not being properly balanced. I'm not exactly sure. It could also be personal preference:)
Title: Re: GMK RGB samples over here!
Post by: Acetrak on Mon, 21 January 2013, 20:43:54
Genuine Cherry RGB PBT's are black dyesubbed ;D
Title: GMK RGB samples over here!
Post by: phetto on Tue, 22 January 2013, 05:41:42
Doubleshots are also genuine and way more far between. xD
Title: Re: GMK RGB samples over here!
Post by: Glissant on Tue, 22 January 2013, 06:31:26
By the way, did Cherry ever produce rgb with white legends?
I am only wondering because I think RGBs would look great on sets with white legends, but right now my RGBs with black legends look out of place.
Title: Re: GMK RGB samples over here!
Post by: phetto on Tue, 22 January 2013, 08:11:21
Thats exactly what I think too.

You see, if you have a white on black cherry ds set and use a white on red cherry esc it looks amazing.
But when the table is turned around and you try a beige/white cherry set and use the white on red esc it looks crappy..
Title: Re: GMK RGB samples over here!
Post by: Acetrak on Tue, 22 January 2013, 08:15:47
That's because they weren't meant to be on the same board :P
Title: GMK RGB samples over here!
Post by: phetto on Tue, 22 January 2013, 10:33:12
:O :D
Title: Re: GMK RGB samples over here!
Post by: Supergleep on Tue, 22 January 2013, 15:54:50
ok, gotta ask, is this a group buy that I can still get in on, or just samples for a closed GB? I'd love to get a set of Cherry RGB doubleshots.  *looks for the 'shut up and take my money' jpeg*
Title: Re: GMK RGB samples over here!
Post by: phetto on Wed, 23 January 2013, 03:34:39
It is a GB going in the korean community, not here.
Title: Re: GMK RGB samples over here!
Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 25 January 2013, 23:29:20
Is it going? I thought there was no GBs in Korean communities for a while.
Title: GMK RGB samples over here!
Post by: Halverson on Sat, 26 January 2013, 01:55:12
Is it going? I thought there was no GBs in Korean communities for a while.

GB or not, aren't the RGB at Originative these exact caps?
Title: Re: Re: GMK RGB samples over here!
Post by: SmallFry on Sat, 26 January 2013, 07:04:40
Is it going? I thought there was no GBs in Korean communities for a while.

GB or not, aren't the RGB at Originative these exact caps?
I don't know, I never saw the site...
Title: Re: GMK RGB samples over here!
Post by: phetto on Sat, 26 January 2013, 07:49:31
You been afk for the last 2 days smallfriez?
Title: Re: GMK RGB samples over here!
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 26 January 2013, 11:17:51
I don't think originative has 1.5 version of RGB which is what was in the OP picture.
Title: GMK RGB samples over here!
Post by: Acetrak on Sat, 26 January 2013, 11:26:22
Sherry is selling both 1.5 and 1.25 versions. From the pictures they look like B profile keys
Title: Re: GMK RGB samples over here!
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 26 January 2013, 12:22:11
Ok, I only saw 1.25 version when I looked the other day.
Title: Re: GMK RGB samples over here!
Post by: dirge on Sat, 26 January 2013, 12:38:39
I prefer the old A profile.

Get the short left shifts made!
Title: Re: GMK RGB samples over here!
Post by: sherryton on Sat, 26 January 2013, 14:06:21
I prefer the old A profile.

Get the short left shifts made!

On its way!  I listened to lysol when it came to the Cherry profiling, and I am glad I did :)
Title: GMK RGB samples over here!
Post by: phetto on Sat, 26 January 2013, 19:34:01
What sherry, have you put an order for iso shifts?
Title: Re: GMK RGB samples over here!
Post by: eth0s on Sat, 26 January 2013, 19:44:42
Actually, I'd prefer a set of the messed up profile ones since they match up with the Dolch and Black DS better

+1

I want the "mistake" set, way more than that "correct" set.  The original Cherry "A" profile was way better.

Title: Re: GMK RGB samples over here!
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 26 January 2013, 22:32:54
Didn't sherryton just have these in his store?
Title: Re: GMK RGB samples over here!
Post by: sherryton on Wed, 30 January 2013, 03:15:25
What sherry, have you put an order for iso shifts?

Very soon!
Title: Re: GMK RGB samples over here!
Post by: dirge on Wed, 30 January 2013, 04:46:42
Some.ISO love. Now were talking :)