Since the friendly mods will be likely deleting all the criticism Fuus' got in that thread, I wanted to continue the discussion here where it's ON-TOPIC. I've cleared the discussion with the Mods, and wanted to see what your opinions were of these keycaps.
My personal opinion? They look awful. In retrospect, this new rise of nail polish keycaps had some great potential from a few people (chwang, akujiwa, jeroplane, etc.). Then, all of a sudden, it's like we reverse innovated and went back to the stone age. 20 pounds each? That's more than a ClickClack retail for retail.
Just to give you an impression of what I value a $30+ keycap to be. CC is a plastics, color and molding expert. These are the pre-qualifications of any genuine craft. When you put up a keycap for sale, this is what I personally expect.
Now, when I look at these keycaps. I see less than 20 minutes of work on pre-made cheap keycaps. Did you sand them down first? Did you buff them? Did you apply protectants? And did you come up with these designs yourself? When I look at them, all signs point to no and I've regarded these as extremely low quality.
Take a step back Fuus, and look at your own work. It is terrible, and I don't mean to be an *******, but I am.
Source: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39466.0For Sale! All caps except Blue Wonder are ESC row profile!
Blue Wonder Please note the top of this cap is Blue paint with Golden glitter!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/pED7WdMh.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/8EbRt45h.jpg)
Random 2x length cap. Not sure of what cap is should be, can't work out the profile!
Strawberry VanillaShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/lCNTyhGh.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/e5urlWWh.jpg)
VolcanoShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/Jzs7HbXh.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/aVVHaIwh.jpg)
Tri Colour - Please note the top of this cap is Turquoise it just didn't come out very well in the picturesShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/YBfcs5Zh.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/oMPQGTsh.jpg)
Cost: £20 each, plus shipping. Payed by PayPal (add 3.4% if not gift)
Thanks, Fuus
Who's the troll exactly?
If you at least made it look "high quality" or came up with the idea yourself.
You are just copying others. Maybe you saw the profit they made of the community and thought yourself (as many did before you), why can't I be the one who trolls the **** out of those people?
The only nail-polished keycaps I saw so far which weren't total crap are those of jeroplane.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/mpIzS.jpg)
TBH, yours DO look like polished by pre-schoolers. Doesn't matter how much work you put into it. I could try and paint something similar to Bob Ross' landscape paintings. But the outcome will be crap. Because I can't fukking paint. And I would never assume people are dumb enough to buy from me.
But strangely you do. And, your luck, here are enough dumb people who buy anything keyboard related, doesn't matter how crappy it looks. (I don't mean actual look which comes with tastes, I mean the poorly made look. Show some love, damnit. CC does...)
Don't want to step on your toes, though. Just want to mention my opinion, in hopes this "madness" will die soon eventually...
You serious? Go away thread crapper
For Sale! All caps except Blue Wonder are ESC row profile!
Blue Wonder Please note the top of this cap is Blue paint with Golden glitter!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/pED7WdMh.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/8EbRt45h.jpg)
Random 2x length cap. Not sure of what cap is should be, can't work out the profile!
Strawberry VanillaShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/lCNTyhGh.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/e5urlWWh.jpg)
VolcanoShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/Jzs7HbXh.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/aVVHaIwh.jpg)
Tri Colour - Please note the top of this cap is Turquoise it just didn't come out very well in the picturesShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/YBfcs5Zh.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/oMPQGTsh.jpg)
Cost: £20 each, plus shipping. Payed by PayPal (add 3.4% if not gift)
Thanks, Fuus
p.s. I like the work that akujiwa & jeroplane create and hope they both continue making theirs
I believe he thought he could make some easy money, by selling poorly made caps. People on here do love keys, and do love spending money. But we need to draw the line somewhere!While I can't stop you from expressing your opinion with regards to capitalizing on selling these caps, let's do our best to provide criticism to the actual product being sold :) I believe this was the point of Dan's thread. Not to $hit on someone's hard work, but to actually point out why these will not do well in the general keyboard hobbyists' eyes, and what can and should be improved on.
drat, now I won't be able to make big money off these works of art
(http://i.imgur.com/KflQynB.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/KflQynB.jpg)f
+1 agree with everything Dan said.
p.s. I like the work that akujiwa & jeroplane create and hope they both continue making theirs
Successful troll? :D
If people will buy it then sell it, if they won't then improve the product or reduce the price.Pretty simple concept that many people fail to understand imo.
What would you guys say is a *reasonable* price?
What would you guys say is a *reasonable* price?In my personal opinion, since this is your first sale, I would sell them for "at production cost" or just for free. Therefore showing that you mean to impress others with your craftsmanship and fine quality work.
What would you guys say is a *reasonable* price?
What would you guys say is a *reasonable* price?
I wouldn't compare brobots to CC's, there has been much more work that has gone into creating something original and actually perfecting it. I have not seen a single dual colored CC where there has been color where it was not supposed to be whereas many of the Brobot eyes vary with each keycap, nowhere near perfection.
I wouldn't compare brobots to CC's, there has been much more work that has gone into creating something original and actually perfecting it. I have not seen a single dual colored CC where there has been color where it was not supposed to be whereas many of the Brobot eyes vary with each keycap, nowhere near perfection.Ah, good point ekw808, we have yet to see tri-colors as well. Dual colored translucent are cool though!
I like the movement toward constructive criticism. It takes time to figure things out, and suggestions are more helpful to the builder/artist/salesman/etc. than statements like "KILL IT WITH FIRE"! Although with that being said some people have been throwing out some entry skill items at pro prices.Agreed, hope this will lead to GHers producing even more interesting things!
What?
drat, now I won't be able to make big money off these works of art
(http://i.imgur.com/KflQynB.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/KflQynB.jpg)f
+1 agree with everything Dan said.
p.s. I like the work that akujiwa & jeroplane create and hope they both continue making theirs
ClickFap?
What?Show Image(http://theclib.net:81/CLiB/Pictures/IMG_2505.JPG)
I've never seen a CC with eyes this poorly colored.
You can contact MMB at .......
Say this **** months ago, get yelled at. I still say the the majority of them look like a five year old with some nail polish. There are two maker's caps that look good and are reasonably priced (akuJIWA and jero)
You can contact MMB at .......
I wouldn't compare brobots to CC's, there has been much more work that has gone into creating something original and actually perfecting it. I have not seen a single dual colored CC where there has been color where it was not supposed to be whereas many of the Brobot eyes vary with each keycap, nowhere near perfection.
I wouldn't compare brobots to CC's, there has been much more work that has gone into creating something original and actually perfecting it. I have not seen a single dual colored CC where there has been color where it was not supposed to be whereas many of the Brobot eyes vary with each keycap, nowhere near perfection.
I have never stated that I was competing with CC. He is definitely a very talented person, and I respect his work. As for my own work, they were not made from plastic mold injection. Rather, by hand using resins and colors. And as Dan has stated, I am glad to replace anything that might be defective. I realize that with the process I was using, I can only control so much of the quality and this was stated on the sale at techkeys. I am sorry you feel so negatively towards my caps, but there are plenty of people that enjoy them, as I have enjoyed making them for them.
Just popping in to correct one thing: Jero's caps are not nail polish. I forget what the process is called but I believe it involves floating a paint film on water and dipping it. Some of his designs are really quite nice. I own one of his "beta" caps and it definitely needed some work on smoothing the clear coat (mine was uneven and chipped). Hopefully he has that straightened out now. I think they compete with the NIQMODS which are automotive spray. The actual nail polish caps are, IMHO, awful.
In my mind there is really only one ideal: doubleshots. There is still room for artistic expression in that medium, and some of Keypop's recent designs are a good example.
I think the ones you guys make look awesome Aku and Jero, even those rejected ones a far better than some of the copies.
Maybe instead of throwing them away sell them cheap as rejects, I know I would buy some for a reasonable price. Unless of course by throw away you mean sand and redip which would make you more money I guess.
seems like back-tracking to me, why would you put so much time and effort into just pissing a few people off in a community your not even appart off?
seems like back-tracking to me, why would you put so much time and effort into just pissing a few people off in a community your not even appart off?
A lot of spare time i suppose
Wow.... What a ****. Full thread http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=223147&page=554 (http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=223147&page=554)
Wow.... What a ****. Full thread http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=223147&page=554 (http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=223147&page=554)
Clearly some other GHers on there that fully support him. What a disgrace.
Wow.... What a ****. Full thread http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=223147&page=554 (http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=223147&page=554)
Clearly some other GHers on there that fully support him. What a disgrace.
This has honestly amused me the whole way through, from both sides of the story.
I'm not sure if Fuus is genuinely trolling or just having fun making some caps.
Either way it doesn't affect me or my life in any way, and it shouldn't affect yours.
If someone posts something in classifieds that's overpriced, well then, I just won't buy it.
I can't understand the offence you have all taken as if someone has done something to you?
I don't see why people let things bother them so much? Chill out? Relax a little people?
It's the same principle that stops me from buying a clack for $200 or a set of rgb dyesubs for $180.
I'm not gonna cry about it, simply not buy and just ignore it.
Touchy people.
For people like me, who actually give a **** about GH,
For people like me, who actually give a **** about GH,
From http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/filco-m13-desko-rgb-siig-montereys-wyse-ra-2-0-imsto-t4894.html (http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/filco-m13-desko-rgb-siig-montereys-wyse-ra-2-0-imsto-t4894.html)
Quote:
DangWang: "I'm not exactly a fan of GH myself =)"
But that's another matter...
Back on track
All I am saying is that this shouldn't have upset you as much as it has.
If this is honestly the only thing in life you have to worry about then you must have it pretty easy..
P.S I don't think anyone actually bought one did they? (rofl) So no one has been ripped off?
EDIT: For the record, I don't like unicorn vomit boards, novelty keys or home made keycaps. (other than my pink superhero!!)
But I also don't take anything to heart or let anything get to me... that's all.
Just trying to point out all this FUSS over FUUS is for nothing? And you should all just get on with your lives?
If you find enjoyment out of seeing someone ripping another member offWho are you to say what value to put on something?
an easy way to make some money..No way of getting money in life is easy.
This isn't some forum to spread your bull****.Haha. The same thing could be said about you Dan.
It's the same principle that stops me from buying a clack for $200 or a set of rgb dyesubs for $180.
I'm not gonna cry about it, simply not buy and just ignore it.
Touchy people.
I'm all for fun, and **** talking when it's warranted. Don't get me wrong, even I complain about the G-rated GH that has been happening recently. But there is a fine line between insulting someone by making fun of their inexperience (i.e. selling 20GBP keycaps that are complete bull**** to unsuspecting novices) versus someone talking **** about Unicorn Vomit keyboards...which to this day, I still don't understand!
You call this thread of people, 'Touchy People.' I'd like to consider it, concerned people about the overall well being of Geekhack. For people like me, who actually give a **** about GH, preservation of this loyal, honest, <insert thesaurus word here> community is of the utmost importance. We set the bar for newbies and provide help for a reason. This isn't some forum to spread your bull****.
If you find enjoyment out of seeing someone ripping another member offWho are you to say what value to put on something?
A quote from a friend: 'I love how the whole of geekhack takes advice from a guy addicted to weed.'
Anyway, I intend to lower prices as this thread has suggested, own your own piece of Geekhack history!
In response to el2k's comments; I will admit that the concept of painting caps. This was a fun activity to carry out with my sister was not intended as a troll, however the attitudes of some members of this forum have led to my thread being put down as a troll.an easy way to make some money..No way of getting money in life is easy.
To any Mods / Admins who think this is a troll: I can assure you it is not. Some of the members of the community have been vindictive and egotistic towards my caps, it was completely unsolicited. As you can see this CONSTRUCTIVE criticism has turned into a rabble.This isn't some forum to spread your bull****.Haha. The same thing could be said about you Dan.
I see your point I do, But "trolls" as you call them, feed off of things like this.
If everyone just ignored the "For Sale" thread and no one commented at all, then there would have been no "trolling" or any harm done? Am I right?
So back to my initial point, Ignore stuff that doesn't interest you and go about your way as you normally would.
I can live happily whilst viewing these forums, I don't take offence easily. If I do intend to leave, you'll be the first to know!
EDIT: Oh, scrap that whole reply as I guess it wasn't "trolling" after all.
Just a kid, having some fun, maybe got the prices a little wrong.
MOVE ON.
Edit: To the mods that believe this guy's sap story (Fuus), I direct you to: http://forums.bit-tech.net/showpost.php?p=3269558&postcount=11062
Nice edit 1 minute agoEdited to better reflect the message I meant to portray!
Edit: To the mods that believe this guy's sap story (Fuus), I direct you to: http://forums.bit-tech.net/showpost.php?p=3269558&postcount=11062
Nice edit 1 minute ago
Edit: To the mods that believe this guy's sap story (Fuus), I direct you to: http://forums.bit-tech.net/showpost.php?p=3269558&postcount=11062
Nice edit 1 minute ago
Edit: To the mods that believe this guy's sap story (Fuus), I direct you to: http://forums.bit-tech.net/showpost.php?p=3269558&postcount=11062
Nice edit 1 minute ago
This whole incident is just gossip, gimme dem deets guys!
Let's not forget the rest of the thread though: http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=223147&page=554Yeah Dan, look at how there're no arguments!
I'm all for lowbrow humor, but this is just boring.
Don't forget childish.Childish from Dan I would agree. I can honestly say to you, this was not intended as a troll. Accept that or not, that's how it is!
I can honestly say to you, this was not intended as a troll. Accept that or not, that's how it is!Pretty hard to believe that from reading the thread responses. Sigh my jimmies
Best line in the whole thread was the part about being 'addicted to weed'. I had a good laugh at that. Feel free to help yourself to a book.
Why is it that we are discussing this? Don't like em Don't buy em!
Enough said, we don't need vigilante mini mods running around preaching the good word of ethical keycap construction.
Vote with your wallet!
yet nobody jumped on dude's ass about his ridiculous prices.
well to be honest, all these custom keycaps look like **** to me.
especially those baked goods ones.
yet nobody jumped on dude's ass about his ridiculous prices.
but i guess if you get on the good side of certain geekhackers, you're okay.
now calm down ladies, as whiskerbox said.. don't like it? don't buy it.
And another worthless thread...
well, he has a vendor forum and continues to sell soooooooo, yeah.yet nobody jumped on dude's ass about his ridiculous prices.
lol wat?
you are correct.well to be honest, all these custom keycaps look like **** to me.
especially those baked goods ones.
yet nobody jumped on dude's ass about his ridiculous prices.
but i guess if you get on the good side of certain geekhackers, you're okay.
now calm down ladies, as whiskerbox said.. don't like it? don't buy it.
There is a whole thread dedicated to it, but you don't frequent DT so I guess you missed it
well, he has a vendor forum and continues to sell soooooooo, yeah.yet nobody jumped on dude's ass about his ridiculous prices.
lol wat?you are correct.well to be honest, all these custom keycaps look like **** to me.
especially those baked goods ones.
yet nobody jumped on dude's ass about his ridiculous prices.
but i guess if you get on the good side of certain geekhackers, you're okay.
now calm down ladies, as whiskerbox said.. don't like it? don't buy it.
There is a whole thread dedicated to it, but you don't frequent DT so I guess you missed it
but he still sells, well sold, on GH.
and people still paid his prices.
and nobody gave him as much **** as they are giving fuus
well, if i remember correctly the dude's sig was "i never said they were art"
so, he knows what he was doing.
making a quick buck off a fad.
yeah, no.well, if i remember correctly the dude's sig was "i never said they were art"
so, he knows what he was doing.
making a quick buck off a fad.
Id say they both got an equal lashing
at least post the original man
at least post the original manWas supposed to be humorous 'cause of all the kids... ha...ha...ha...
i bring shame to my family.
i must perform seppuku.
it's been real GH.
I bet y'all drinking that wine, too, weren't ya. Been smoking them tweeds and everything. Wearing the old clothes all half off your ass. What the hell's going on today?
I bet y'all drinking that wine, too, weren't ya. Been smoking them tweeds and everything. Wearing the old clothes all half off your ass. What the hell's going on today?
demik stop getting all potted up on weed. You're drunk.Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
Wow.... What a ****. Full thread http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=223147&page=554 (http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=223147&page=554)
Clearly some other GHers on there that fully support him. What a disgrace.
This has honestly amused me the whole way through, from both sides of the story.
I'm not sure if Fuus is genuinely trolling or just having fun making some caps.
Either way it doesn't affect me or my life in any way, and it shouldn't affect yours.
If someone posts something in classifieds that's overpriced, well then, I just won't buy it.
I can't understand the offence you have all taken as if someone has done something to you?
I don't see why people let things bother them so much? Chill out? Relax a little people?
For someone who sides with Fuus on this, it's apparent your thinking and commitment to GH isn't nearly as deep as even some of our newest members. If you find enjoyment out of seeing someone ripping another member off, then you'll always fail to understand why it bothers some people. That's me trying not to be rude about your ignorance.
Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
I'm not going to lie, being a new member around here the one thing I've realized is the ridiculous pricing on everything. A lot of guys that have been around here just exploit the newer/desperate members with ridiculous costs. As much as I'd like a brobot/cc (even if you could find it for that matter) to make my setup look unique, prices multiply insanely because of "rarity".
It's nice to see unique caps like the "baked goods", however I believe that people should show/create tutorials on how to make these things on your own if you can't afford their caps/ they're not available (cc's). That's what this community should be about imho, not making a quick buck.
I'm not going to lie, being a new member around here the one thing I've realized is the ridiculous pricing on everything. A lot of guys that have been around here just exploit the newer/desperate members with ridiculous costs. As much as I'd like a brobot/cc (even if you could find it for that matter) to make my setup look unique, prices multiply insanely because of "rarity".
It's nice to see unique caps like the "baked goods", however I believe that people should show/create tutorials on how to make these things on your own if you can't afford their caps/ they're not available (cc's). That's what this community should be about imho, not making a quick buck.
Completely agree with you, I've had plenty of PM chatters with people about this stupid mentality of "I have something rare that cost me $20, but these noobs don't know that, $150 and it's yours!"
As for making your own caps, there is a thread around here somewhere that does just that. Read around.
Any threads that long on GH? Without self destructing? With no moderator intervention? I ask only that you think about why...
Some of you guys are so dumb. It is about ripping off the community and putting garbage in our Classifieds, not whether or not I'm trying to deny his freedom of selling his worthless garbage (although that would be an excellent byproduct of this whole thread). Read all 6 pages please.
Some of you guys are so dumb. It is about ripping off the community and putting garbage in our Classifieds, not whether or not I'm trying to deny his freedom of selling his worthless garbage (although that would be an excellent byproduct of this whole thread). Read all 6 pages please.
I vote that we bring fossala back as the official classifieds moderator ;D . That solves the rip offs and garbage problem at the same time
Some of you guys are so dumb. It is about ripping off the community and putting garbage in our Classifieds, not whether or not I'm trying to deny his freedom of selling his worthless garbage (although that would be an excellent byproduct of this whole thread). Read all 6 pages please.
works of art (and I do use that phrase loosely - sorry fuusI laugh at the thought of my work and ART in the same sentence.
and it'll even work if you let it go hard.
i bring shame to my family.
i must perform seppuku.
it's been real GH.
^____^
Even fat people should be allowed to have sex, right? I should not be forced to watch, but they shouldn't have to hide their rolling, gelatinous masses, either.
Post your homemade caps thread plz
Too soon?
Here is the one for molding:Awesome! :)
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=23722.0
And somewhere and sometime someone posted how they do "dip caps".
litster, I'll take ten, but only if they are $250 each.
dropping by to say hai and get some constructive praises of my rare, hand-made, custom smiley keycap:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/hc2aM.jpg)
didn't respond well to the criticism over them.In what way did I not respond well? I accepted the comments which were helpful and positive, others which no constructivism at all I simply told to GTFO.
jimmies: rustled
heart-saddening...Quote from: kidmodjimmies: rustled
and one more time, with feeling! http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=223147&page=554
I'm pretty sure as admins they're meant to inform you of a verdict. Also; crapping a user title is not useful in anyway, It's simply childish.
drat, now I won't be able to make big money off these works of art
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+1 agree with everything Dan said.
p.s. I like the work that akujiwa & jeroplane create and hope they both continue making theirs