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Title: Phantom aluminium case
Post by: damorgue on Fri, 08 February 2013, 18:13:30
I figure I should make a thread at GH as well since this one is close to finished. I am going to move some info here from the thread at DT soon. The "Phantom milled case A" is the one which I have gone forward with.
A description of it: http://deskthority.net/keyboards-f2/case-discussions-t4530.html#p86541
Some more pics: http://deskthority.net/keyboards-f2/case-discussions-t4530-30.html#p95269
The above post also describes the variations.

A manufacturer has now been found as well, and the cases get quite cheap in larger numbers. This is to gauge interest. Still a bit undecided on feet, colours and how many variations to offer them in which will affect the final cost. We are looking at sub $200 at least.
Title: Re: Phantom aluminium case
Post by: damorgue on Fri, 08 February 2013, 18:13:58
Reserved
Title: Re: Phantom aluminium case
Post by: regack on Fri, 08 February 2013, 18:43:31
Nice, too bad I don't have anything to put inside it D:
Title: Re: Phantom aluminium case
Post by: The_Beast on Fri, 08 February 2013, 18:49:48
sub $200 = excellent
Title: Re: Phantom aluminium case
Post by: calavera on Fri, 08 February 2013, 19:03:39
this probably has been asked a million times, but is the phantom case compatible with filco boards?
Title: Re: Phantom aluminium case
Post by: inteli722 on Fri, 08 February 2013, 19:46:49
Sub $200 case that would look good AND would match well with RA/Klaxon? AND it has the fully populated right hand side?

now time to find some money. Great looking case, and unless I have no money by the time it comes up, then you have a definite customer. Nobody else wants to fully populate the right column on an aluminum case... :(
Title: Re: Phantom aluminium case
Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 08 February 2013, 20:25:24
this probably has been asked a million times, but is the phantom case compatible with filco boards?
The Phantom was made to fit in a Filco case, so I don't see why not.
Title: Re: Phantom aluminium case
Post by: alaricljs on Fri, 08 February 2013, 20:41:40
Size and shape of the original Filco plate were not a consideration for this design as far as I am aware.  It may not fit.
Title: Re: Phantom aluminium case
Post by: inteli722 on Fri, 08 February 2013, 20:49:16
I would think the Filco Daughterboard would be the most questionable thing about it not fitting. Other than that, I'm not entirely sure. It may or may not fit a Filco plate.

EDIT: Changed a word to what I meant it to say :))
Title: Re: Phantom aluminium case
Post by: alaricljs on Fri, 08 February 2013, 20:52:37
Oh yeah, forgot about that.
Title: Re: Phantom aluminium case
Post by: Leslieann on Fri, 08 February 2013, 21:22:04
The daughterboard depends...
It sticks up only a small amount over the plate, so depending on how close the top is to the plate could provide clearance even if the top's underside isn't milled out (which based on drawings is not). You could probably clearance it without much issue if need be with some common tools, though from certain angles it could look a bit crude if you aren't careful and might take a bit of work.

The stock Filco plate on the other hand is another issue, however there are often group buys with plates for $20-$40 that will solve that problem. There is one going on right now.

While I would prefer to see the underside milled out, I'm probably in regardless.
Title: Re: Phantom aluminium case
Post by: mashby on Fri, 08 February 2013, 21:40:15
I'm building up my Phantom to use the Klaxon set, so this case would be perfect. I'm in!
Title: Re: Phantom aluminium case
Post by: singaporean123 on Fri, 08 February 2013, 21:41:19
That case is beautiful. would it fit a qfr?
Title: Re: Phantom aluminium case
Post by: inteli722 on Fri, 08 February 2013, 21:52:31
That case is beautiful. would it fit a qfr?

The standoff is the biggest issue here. The QFR has a different standoff position compared to the Filco (and subsequently the Phantom, whose PCB was designed to fit a Filco case with no modificactions), and since it's Aluminum, there's no REAL way to cut/grind down the standoff to where the QFR PCB would fit. I don't know if the QFR uses the same/a similar daughterboard that the Filco does, if so, then that's also an issue.

I'm building up my Phantom to use the Klaxon set, so this case would be perfect. I'm in!

As am I. I imagine the "RA" look would be perfect, but the Ragnarok look also looks cool. I'm curious how that would look with the Klaxon/RA set.

Again: Have the Arrclus layout and it's practically an instant buy for me, provided I have the funds.
Title: Re: Phantom aluminium case
Post by: Sai on Fri, 08 February 2013, 22:00:30
Ragnarok for me. Need to start saving some money !  :p
Title: Re: Phantom aluminium case
Post by: metalliqaz on Fri, 08 February 2013, 22:03:16
I remember that thread :)  Me likey
Title: Re: Phantom aluminium case
Post by: Turkishrambo on Fri, 08 February 2013, 22:07:27
the RA silver red  WANTTT
Title: Re: Phantom aluminium case
Post by: inteli722 on Fri, 08 February 2013, 22:08:55
I don't know of any other 1.5x mod sets going on right now besides Klaxon, and Klaxon is the most appealing to me.

so...KLAXON!
Title: Re: Phantom aluminium case
Post by: Saviant on Fri, 08 February 2013, 22:28:10
I would be down for one for my phantom aswell, would love to see it in the silver like KMAC/LZ cases.
Title: Re: Phantom aluminium case
Post by: damorgue on Sat, 09 February 2013, 09:35:51
There have been requests for the area above the Filco controller to be hollowed for it to fit. I may make such an option, but beware, the standard Filco plate is bent at the edges and won't be compatible. The one who requested it will de-solder his switches and replace the plate.

This was designed to be rather cheap and comply with the already existing Phantom plates. There is a bit of a discussion ongoing at DT on how many of you want LED holes.
Title: Re: Phantom aluminium case
Post by: inteli722 on Sat, 09 February 2013, 09:45:21
I could go yay  or nay for LED holes. If it's Yay, then it's easy, if not, then we just go in-switch LEDs for Caps and scroll (for me num) lock.
Title: Re: Phantom aluminium case
Post by: Sai on Sat, 09 February 2013, 13:07:14
no LED hole from me since i am planning to go in-switch LEDs. ;D
Title: Phantom aluminium case
Post by: jdcarpe on Sat, 09 February 2013, 17:11:05
I say in keeping with the clean lines and look of this case, the LED holes are not needed.
Title: Re: Phantom aluminium case
Post by: Jupiter on Sat, 09 February 2013, 21:48:55
Sub $200 and I would definitely be down for a case!

Just a quick question, could we get any info on pricing tiers if it's possible?

Edit: As for color, DEFINITELY the RA set.

Klaxon (RoW base + RoW Mods) + Red MKC Spacebar + Red MDPC/White Heatshrink Cable from Pexon + GeekHack Feb Vegas key + THIS RA CASE.

Perfection.
Title: Re: Phantom aluminium case
Post by: nebo on Sun, 10 February 2013, 21:30:30
I posted in DT but I'll post here, super interested.
Title: Re: Phantom aluminium case
Post by: laden3 on Thu, 14 February 2013, 21:35:29
Definitely interested in the arrclus layout. Only reason to go through all the trouble to build a phantom+ metal case or else we can just buy a metal keyboard out there.

However, is there a well thought out arrclus layout?
Title: Re: Phantom aluminium case
Post by: inteli722 on Thu, 14 February 2013, 21:37:16
Definitely interested in the arrclus layout. Only reason to go through all the trouble to build a phantom+ metal case or else we can just buy a metal keyboard out there.

However, is there a well thought out arrclus layout?

I'm going for the 5 keys above the arrow keys as hardware macros when not in numpad form, then you know what in numpad form. when not in Numpad form, the insert block and the arrow keys will be identically placed to a standard tkl.
Title: Phantom aluminium case
Post by: Gupgup on Thu, 14 February 2013, 21:46:06
Interested! May have to sell my clacks..
Title: Re: Phantom aluminium case
Post by: inteli722 on Thu, 14 February 2013, 21:48:51
Interested! May have to sell my clacks..

how many clacks do you have?

Because at regular Market prices, at optimal price, you should only have to sell 2 or 3 Clacks to buy this.
Title: Re: Phantom aluminium case
Post by: laden3 on Thu, 14 February 2013, 21:52:31

I'm going for the 5 keys above the arrow keys as hardware macros when not in numpad form, then you know what in numpad form. when not in Numpad form, the insert block and the arrow keys will be identically placed to a standard tkl.

Sounds interesting, which key is going to activate the numpad form? I was thinking about scroll lock and there is a LED under that switch which we can use for num lock and I was thinking about using the pause/break as the delete key.
Title: Re: Phantom aluminium case
Post by: inteli722 on Thu, 14 February 2013, 22:20:15

I'm going for the 5 keys above the arrow keys as hardware macros when not in numpad form, then you know what in numpad form. when not in Numpad form, the insert block and the arrow keys will be identically placed to a standard tkl.

Sounds interesting, which key is going to activate the numpad form? I was thinking about scroll lock and there is a LED under that switch which we can use for num lock and I was thinking about using the pause/break as the delete key.
Yeah, scroll lock will be numlock, then the function key (I'm thinking Printscreen) + numlock = scroll lock. Delete is going to be where delete normally is.
Title: Re: Phantom aluminium case
Post by: DamienG on Thu, 07 March 2013, 12:12:18
What are the main differences compared to http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=280

Only thing I don't like about that one is the LED holes - looks like this plan hasn't yet decided for or against them on the DT thread.

[)amien
Title: Re: Phantom aluminium case
Post by: nebo on Thu, 07 March 2013, 13:26:02
What are the main differences compared to http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=280

Only thing I don't like about that one is the LED holes - looks like this plan hasn't yet decided for or against them on the DT thread.

[)amien
What are the main differences compared to http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=280

Only thing I don't like about that one is the LED holes - looks like this plan hasn't yet decided for or against them on the DT thread.

[)amien
This will also have the options of being winkeyless, having the arrow cluster area opened up as well as the function row.
Title: Re: Phantom aluminium case
Post by: inteli722 on Thu, 07 March 2013, 15:51:54
Also, Damien, that case would only work if you used a Filco plate with your Phantom, relegating you to a standard layout and basically defeating the purpose of a Phantom in the first place! :D

JKJK. It won't work though. It relies on a feature that Filco plates have to keep the PCB up.
Title: Re: Phantom aluminium case
Post by: DamienG on Thu, 07 March 2013, 16:58:18
Okay, I'm now officially interested :)

[)amien
Title: Re: Phantom aluminium case
Post by: Photekq on Thu, 07 March 2013, 19:11:36
Can I just get this right.. Will the phantom work with any case that has the exact same mounts as the original filco case? Am I right in saying that the phantom pcb and plate have holes in the exact position of the filcos?
Title: Re: Phantom aluminium case
Post by: inteli722 on Thu, 07 March 2013, 20:06:04
Can I just get this right.. Will the phantom work with any case that has the exact same mounts as the original filco case? Am I right in saying that the phantom pcb and plate have holes in the exact position of the filcos?

Yes you should be right, though it won't fit in the Vortex case because it uses the bend of the Filco Plate to hold it up, which the Phantom doesn't have.
Title: Re: Phantom aluminium case
Post by: Photekq on Fri, 08 March 2013, 06:29:14
Can I just get this right.. Will the phantom work with any case that has the exact same mounts as the original filco case? Am I right in saying that the phantom pcb and plate have holes in the exact position of the filcos?

Yes you should be right, though it won't fit in the Vortex case because it uses the bend of the Filco Plate to hold it up, which the Phantom doesn't have.
Yeah, I was aware of the vortex's mounting methods. Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: Phantom aluminium case
Post by: inteli722 on Wed, 20 March 2013, 08:11:43
Sorry for the stupid question, but this will require it's own plate, right?
Title: Re: Phantom aluminium case
Post by: DamienG on Wed, 20 March 2013, 14:18:09
Sorry for the stupid question, but this will require it's own plate, right?
It requires a Phantom plate - there was a group buy recently and a few people are selling although nobody has theirs yet.

[)amien
Title: Re: Phantom aluminium case
Post by: inteli722 on Wed, 20 March 2013, 15:14:37
Sorry for the stupid question, but this will require it's own plate, right?
It requires a Phantom plate - there was a group buy recently and a few people are selling although nobody has theirs yet.

[)amien

Actually, I'm already getting an ANSI150 Plate from WFD :)

I'd heard that most custom cases used custom plates, and I wanted to make sure that my purchase wasn't for nothing...
Title: Re: Phantom aluminium case
Post by: aggiejy on Wed, 10 April 2013, 22:43:13
Any updates on this?  I'd still really love to get this, especially with the latest round of Phantom plates shipping soon. :)
Title: Re: Phantom aluminium case
Post by: Jupiter on Fri, 07 June 2013, 18:14:42
Is this still going through?
Title: Re: Phantom aluminium case
Post by: Acanthophis on Fri, 07 June 2013, 19:39:05
Nope, it's not.