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Title: MX Greens
Post by: Edjewh on Sat, 16 February 2013, 09:25:17
can you put on mx black springs onto MX greens switches I find the greens to lite
Title: Re: MX Greens
Post by: khaangaaroo on Sat, 16 February 2013, 09:40:13
I think they use the same spring. you'd need to find springs heavier than black
Title: Re: MX Greens
Post by: AKIMbO on Sat, 16 February 2013, 09:43:00
can you put on mx black springs onto MX greens switches I find the greens to lite


First time I've ever heard that.  You must have some Arnold Schwarzenegger fingers.  I think you may be out of luck if you want heavier than mx green springs.  The only other spring I know of is a super black, but good luck finding enough for an entire board.  Super blacks are rare birds.
Title: Re: MX Greens
Post by: khaangaaroo on Sat, 16 February 2013, 10:38:41
I read somewhere that ballpoint pen springs are heavier. Not sure if they'd fit though.
Title: Re: MX Greens
Post by: boost on Sat, 16 February 2013, 12:00:34
If greens are too lite, try cherry mx clear springs
Title: Re: MX Greens
Post by: tauburn on Sat, 16 February 2013, 12:17:17
i thought the green springs were heavier than the blacks
Title: Re: MX Greens
Post by: inteli722 on Sat, 16 February 2013, 13:18:23
i thought the green springs were heavier than the blacks

Greens are heavier SWITCHES than blacks. Same spring. Higher actuation weight comes from the tactile bump (similar to how Reds/Browns have the same spring as Blues, but blues are slightly heavier switches.)
Title: Re: MX Greens
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 16 February 2013, 13:45:40
NO. Green and white have the same springs as greys, which are indeed heavier than both black and clear.
Title: Re: MX Greens
Post by: Loligagger on Sat, 16 February 2013, 13:55:50
NO. Green and white have the same springs as greys, which are indeed heavier than both black and clear.

Is that so? I tried swapping between clear and white springs with a clear stem and felt little to no difference in the force required (the clear spring is shorter & has less windings, however).
Title: Re: MX Greens
Post by: inteli722 on Sat, 16 February 2013, 14:02:19
NO. Green and white have the same springs as greys, which are indeed heavier than both black and clear.

Really? Because Blacks and Greens look like they have the same springs.

Side-by-side Comparison: http://imgur.com/a/RJqM4#23
Title: Re: MX Greens
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 16 February 2013, 14:09:11
Sure they might look same, but there is a 20cN difference and the click mechanism can't add that much.
Title: Re: MX Greens
Post by: inteli722 on Sat, 16 February 2013, 14:11:20
The grays look like they're made of stiffer material. There's also Ghetto Greens (Blues with Black springs.) Anyone have a comparison of the 2 handy?
Title: Re: MX Greens
Post by: gnubag on Sat, 16 February 2013, 14:12:55
I read somewhere that ballpoint pen springs are heavier. Not sure if they'd fit though.
Here: http://imgur.com/a/084iV

and the comments with the name of the pen on reddit here: http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/1869u1/modificationthe_hardest_mechanical_keyswitch_mod/
Title: Re: MX Greens
Post by: tauburn on Sat, 16 February 2013, 14:16:16
I read somewhere that ballpoint pen springs are heavier. Not sure if they'd fit though.
Here: http://imgur.com/a/084iV

and the comments with the name of the pen on reddit here: http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/1869u1/modificationthe_hardest_mechanical_keyswitch_mod/

i really want to feel what it's like to type of a full keyboard of these
Title: Re: MX Greens
Post by: cobraj on Sat, 16 February 2013, 14:38:28
Inb4 Carpal Tunnel :P
Title: Re: MX Greens
Post by: Edjewh on Sat, 16 February 2013, 17:08:28
I must be mental because my black ducky feels a lot heavier then the QFR green I have

and I guess that answers my question it will feel the same
Title: Re: MX Greens
Post by: Strelok on Sat, 16 February 2013, 17:19:28
Whites, Greys, Super Blacks and Super Greys are heavier.
Title: Re: MX Greens
Post by: tauburn on Sat, 16 February 2013, 17:20:27
I must be mental because my black ducky feels a lot heavier then the QFR green I have

and I guess that answers my question it will feel the same

it's probably hard to feel a true difference when one is tactile and one isnt
Title: Re: MX Greens
Post by: Edjewh on Sat, 16 February 2013, 18:13:01
accidental presses during gaming maybe I have heavy hands
Title: Re: MX Greens
Post by: noisyturtle on Sat, 16 February 2013, 18:29:13
Or just go BS. Seriously though, don't your fingers get tired after a few hours on heavy switches?
Title: Re: MX Greens
Post by: tauburn on Sat, 16 February 2013, 18:39:02
Or just go BS. Seriously though, don't your fingers get tired after a few hours on heavy switches?

mine do not get tired at all. i use my greens from the minute i get up until i go to sleep.
Title: Re: MX Greens
Post by: ishumprod on Sat, 16 February 2013, 18:47:59
Or just go BS. Seriously though, don't your fingers get tired after a few hours on heavy switches?

mine do not get tired at all. i use my greens from the minute i get up until i go to sleep.

what ?? you don't type while you sleep ? or maybe worse, you type on other switches ???
Title: Re: MX Greens
Post by: tauburn on Sat, 16 February 2013, 19:51:03
Or just go BS. Seriously though, don't your fingers get tired after a few hours on heavy switches?

mine do not get tired at all. i use my greens from the minute i get up until i go to sleep.

what ?? you don't type while you sleep ? or maybe worse, you type on other switches ???

i guess if i could put switches in my phone i would type while i sleep
Title: Re: MX Greens
Post by: Edjewh on Sat, 16 February 2013, 20:06:16
had a keyboard with browns that drove me nuts
so so touchy
Title: Re: MX Greens
Post by: tp4tissue on Sat, 16 February 2013, 21:06:03
It wouldn't exactly be all that cheap to get 87 pen springs together.
Title: Re: MX Greens
Post by: tauburn on Sat, 16 February 2013, 23:43:52
It wouldn't exactly be all that cheap to get 87 pen springs together.
uh yeah it would be

http://www.staples.com/Staples-Retractable-Ballpoint-Pen-Medium-Point-Assorted-50-Pack/product_656534
Title: Re: MX Greens
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 17 February 2013, 01:13:13
It wouldn't exactly be all that cheap to get 87 pen springs together.
uh yeah it would be

http://www.staples.com/Staples-Retractable-Ballpoint-Pen-Medium-Point-Assorted-50-Pack/product_656534

2 packs comes out to about $26 after tax...

How is that Cheap.....

The whole keyboard qfr mx blue on sale goes for $55 shipped.
Title: Re: MX Greens
Post by: tauburn on Sun, 17 February 2013, 10:47:57
It wouldn't exactly be all that cheap to get 87 pen springs together.
uh yeah it would be

http://www.staples.com/Staples-Retractable-Ballpoint-Pen-Medium-Point-Assorted-50-Pack/product_656534

2 packs comes out to about $26 after tax...

How is that Cheap.....

The whole keyboard qfr mx blue on sale goes for $55 shipped.


you're on a forum where people spend $400+ on a single keyboard. i don't know what you think cheap means.
Title: Re: MX Greens
Post by: khaangaaroo on Sun, 17 February 2013, 10:51:29
QFR blues + pens is still cheaper than buying QFR greens. Someone do it! For science 
Title: Re: MX Greens
Post by: kboardvintage on Sun, 17 February 2013, 16:29:30
want to try that green switch. Already own a QFR with blues and a G80-3000 with clears; can't be bad a mix of both :)
Title: Re: MX Greens
Post by: Edjewh on Sun, 17 February 2013, 17:06:25
I would sell you this one

Title: Re: MX Greens
Post by: eth0s on Sun, 17 February 2013, 18:45:36
can you put on mx black springs onto MX greens switches I find the greens to lite


Hmm, I think this might be a troll post.  I don't think this is actually a serious post, because it's simply too ridiculous.

OP, you are trying to pull a goof here, aren't you?
Title: Re: MX Greens
Post by: gnubag on Sun, 17 February 2013, 19:28:06
can you put on mx black springs onto MX greens switches I find the greens to lite


Hmm, I think this might be a troll post.  I don't think this is actually a serious post, because it's simply too ridiculous.

OP, you are trying to pull a goof here, aren't you?

what?

why would it be a troll post?
most wikis say that the blacks have a actuation force of 60g and the greens 80g.
so people might think that they have different springs.
Title: Re: MX Greens
Post by: Edjewh on Sun, 17 February 2013, 19:56:40
wasn't trolling I accidently press buttons on the greens and I don't on my blacks so I figured the green had lighter springs
was considering trying the black springs on the greens but since they are the same not much point in it
Title: Re: MX Greens
Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 17 February 2013, 20:11:20
can you put on mx black springs onto MX greens switches I find the greens to lite


Hmm, I think this might be a troll post.  I don't think this is actually a serious post, because it's simply too ridiculous.

OP, you are trying to pull a goof here, aren't you?

what?

why would it be a troll post?
most wikis say that the blacks have a actuation force of 60g and the greens 80g.
so people might think that they have different springs.


I thought they "WERE" in fact the same springs, but because the special "nub-slider" on the green shaft causes that extra friction bringing it up to 80
Title: Re: MX Greens
Post by: inteli722 on Sun, 17 February 2013, 20:17:19
They are. FormerlyLysol and I were having an argument over it 1st page. where were you?
Title: Re: MX Greens
Post by: MKULTRA on Mon, 18 February 2013, 00:16:03
OP there are some vintage black springs for sale atm.  Might be worth checking out