Cloud of boobs.Show Image(http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=40582.0;attach=14215;image)
I make custom punches :)
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Custom punches make perfect rings very fast :)Show Image(http://cs403119.vk.me/v403119790/913f/tYqSw5vk_3g.jpg)
Silenced sound is so noble and expensive :cool: :thumb: :thumb:
P.S.: I'm ready to give someone a custom punches to make your Excalibur
I make custom punches :)
Show Image(http://cs403119.vk.me/v403119790/90d1/05YicjYUFT0.jpg)
Custom punches make perfect rings very fast :)Show Image(http://cs403119.vk.me/v403119790/913f/tYqSw5vk_3g.jpg)
Silenced sound is so noble and expensive :cool: :thumb: :thumb:
P.S.: I'm ready to give someone a custom punches to make your Excalibur
Thanks bros
Yes, custom punches were made by me from an old iron armature.
all tricks for perfect topre silence rings in this picture
I make a few (2-5) sets and send them for a nominal fee or what ever service.I would buy one, and shipping wont be that bad as I'm in Sweden :)
Two people already agreed with me on the price $ 0.00 ( remains only to find an economical way of shipping from Russia )
I make a few (2-5) sets and send them for a nominal fee or what ever service.
Two people already agreed with me on the price $ 0.00 ( remains only to find an economical way of shipping from Russia )
Awesome work, how long does it take you from start to finish?
I did this mod with different Material and from what I can say the best (and hardest to find) material is foam.
Dense material like silicone works but the effect is way better on light material like foam.
See here: http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/happy-hacking-silencing-aka-ghetto-s-t7056.html?hilit=Ghetto)
daerid, I mention it not changing the feel of the switches for me, so key travel doesn't seem to be compromised enough to be noticeable for me. YMMV.
You might also want to try smaller dental bands. I used 1/8" light dental bands in my hhkb, and they didn't make the key travel bad for me, but they still made a big difference in sound.
I make custom punches :)
Show Image(http://cs403119.vk.me/v403119790/90d1/05YicjYUFT0.jpg)
Custom punches make perfect rings very fast :)Show Image(http://cs403119.vk.me/v403119790/913f/tYqSw5vk_3g.jpg)Show Image(http://cs403119.vk.me/v403119790/910d/ywMzFT7FzJc.jpg)Show Image(http://cs403119.vk.me/v403119790/9149/tI352F3bpIM.jpg)
Silenced sound is so noble and expensive :cool: :thumb: :thumb:
P.S.: I'm ready to give someone a custom punches to make your Excalibur
I got a chance this weekend to re-try this mod. I used 3/8" and 1/2" punches like others had recommended and can confirm that those sizes work. After getting everything bolted back together I now have a fully working silenced board with no dead/hanging keys.
I used the 0.020" silicon sheet but I definitely notice slightly reduced travel. I tested some silenced and non-silenced keys directly next to each other and there is no question that the modified switches have lost a very small amount of tactility. The silenced keys still feel great but not quite the same. The board, however, is almost dead silent now. I'm pretty torn on this mod, the silent part is incredible but the small degradation in tactility is enough to make me question whether or not this is worth keeping.
I too, noticed the difference, and it felt enough that I didnt like it much. Some people wouldn't notice it much at all, but some will. I went with placing purple silent RF sliders into my HHKB and lubed them. Really super silent, and smooth. Yes, it's very expensive to have to purchase a $300 keyboard just to mod another $300 keyboard, though.
I too, noticed the difference, and it felt enough that I didnt like it much. Some people wouldn't notice it much at all, but some will. I went with placing purple silent RF sliders into my HHKB and lubed them. Really super silent, and smooth. Yes, it's very expensive to have to purchase a $300 keyboard just to mod another $300 keyboard, though.
I'm pretty convinced this is the route I'm going to go as well. Find a silenced 87ub and swap the top half onto my 55g cups. I'm going to try this mod in the meantime but I'm really questioning whether I'll stick with it.
Now if only I could find a silenced RF for sale somewhere ...
I definitely don't like how this silicon mod has made my board feel. Even with the 0.020 sheet it's too much. After typing on it at work all day I've determined it just feels too numb. I really, really enjoy how silent it is, but the loss of this much tactility doesn't make it worth it.
I emailed elitekeyboards to ask if they would be getting more silenced boards back in at some point and they replied that the silenced realforces have been discontinued in the US. :'(
Sounds like my hands are tied and I'm going to have to try your mod, spicebar! :))
In my experience, there is still a loss of tactility when using a material that is only 0.4mm=0.016inch thick. The thickness of your silicone sheet is 0.020inch, so I don't doubt that there is a significant difference in feel.
I think you will get the keyboard you want with the landing pads mod.
The landing pads will be flattened down to 0.15 to 0.20mm (0.006 to 0.008inch). They will be much thinner than the silicone sheet. You should not be able to feel any difference in tactility because the pad will simply fill the space above the sliders, where there is a little bit of play.
In my experience, there is still a loss of tactility when using a material that is only 0.4mm=0.016inch thick. The thickness of your silicone sheet is 0.020inch, so I don't doubt that there is a significant difference in feel.
I think you will get the keyboard you want with the landing pads mod.
The landing pads will be flattened down to 0.15 to 0.20mm (0.006 to 0.008inch). They will be much thinner than the silicone sheet. You should not be able to feel any difference in tactility because the pad will simply fill the space above the sliders, where there is a little bit of play.
I went ahead and ordered a pack of the soft landing pads from EK. I will report back in when I get a chance to try them out. Thanks for all your advice and thoughts! :)
In my experience, there is still a loss of tactility when using a material that is only 0.4mm=0.016inch thick. The thickness of your silicone sheet is 0.020inch, so I don't doubt that there is a significant difference in feel.
I think you will get the keyboard you want with the landing pads mod.
The landing pads will be flattened down to 0.15 to 0.20mm (0.006 to 0.008inch). They will be much thinner than the silicone sheet. You should not be able to feel any difference in tactility because the pad will simply fill the space above the sliders, where there is a little bit of play.
I went ahead and ordered a pack of the soft landing pads from EK. I will report back in when I get a chance to try them out. Thanks for all your advice and thoughts! :)
How did it work out in the end? thinking of doing this with my 87u when it arrives!
Did you trim the edges of the landing pads?
Did you trim the edges of the landing pads?
Yep, I tried to trim a couple down but it didnt help. The most common problem was the landing pad riding up on the plunger stem and getting stuck on the housing. This picture (original by spicebar) shows what I mean about the landing pad riding up on the slider stem.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/BekBPMI.jpg)
I'm very surprised, because the fact that the pad rides up on the plunger has never been a problem.
In my first attempts with the landing pads, I avoided making them too thin exactly for this reason. And then I tried and I realized it wasn't a problem at all.
I'm curious about what exactly happened in your case.
On which keyboard did you try the mod?
How can you be sure the problem was caused by the pad riding up the stem? Some people had to cut the corners of the pads, because apparently the corners where the problem.
Did you take pictures?
I'm very surprised, because the fact that the pad rides up on the plunger has never been a problem.
In my first attempts with the landing pads, I avoided making them too thin exactly for this reason. And then I tried and I realized it wasn't a problem at all.
I'm curious about what exactly happened in your case.
On which keyboard did you try the mod?
How can you be sure the problem was caused by the pad riding up the stem? Some people had to cut the corners of the pads, because apparently the corners where the problem.
Did you take pictures?
This was on my RF87UB55. I'm not entirely positive the landing pad riding up the stem was the cause of the issue but from everything I could observe that was the conclusion I came to. I ironed the piss out of the landing pads and got them to just a touch thicker than a sheet of printer paper, if I remember I'll try to get some pictures tonight. Like I said, I even tried triming the perimeter of the landing pad because I remembered reading that could cause issues but it didn't help. The issue was on just about every key I tried and pad I ironed, even on the modifiers keys.
I actually gave ironing the landing pads another shot when my purple sliders came in to try to silence my modifiers more but kept running into the same problem where the keys would stick and hang.
I performed Spicebar's on my Novatouch. Every time I had this "key stuck" problem it was the "pointy" side of the landing pad getting stuck in the way of the slider. I solved it by cutting the pointy edges and sometimes just moving it a bit. If that makes sense. However it was time consuming.I'm very surprised, because the fact that the pad rides up on the plunger has never been a problem.
In my first attempts with the landing pads, I avoided making them too thin exactly for this reason. And then I tried and I realized it wasn't a problem at all.
I'm curious about what exactly happened in your case.
On which keyboard did you try the mod?
How can you be sure the problem was caused by the pad riding up the stem? Some people had to cut the corners of the pads, because apparently the corners where the problem.
Did you take pictures?
This was on my RF87UB55. I'm not entirely positive the landing pad riding up the stem was the cause of the issue but from everything I could observe that was the conclusion I came to. I ironed the piss out of the landing pads and got them to just a touch thicker than a sheet of printer paper, if I remember I'll try to get some pictures tonight. Like I said, I even tried triming the perimeter of the landing pad because I remembered reading that could cause issues but it didn't help. The issue was on just about every key I tried and pad I ironed, even on the modifiers keys.
I actually gave ironing the landing pads another shot when my purple sliders came in to try to silence my modifiers more but kept running into the same problem where the keys would stick and hang.