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geekhack Community => Keyboards => Topic started by: Mainian on Wed, 27 February 2013, 09:00:39
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I'm wondering what's everyone's opinion...
I would use this keyboard both for gaming and typing / programming. (Would prefer the quietest I can get).
Do I need to look at the 55g uniform or the silent? 87 Black.
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Silent if you want the quietest.
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Silent if you want the quietest.
I probably shouldn't have typed that.
Quieter than cherry mx blues. O_O
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See sig
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Quieter than cherry mx blues. O_O
any topre switch board in existence.
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Quieter than cherry mx blues. O_O
any topre switch board in existence.
How would you compare them sound wise with browns?
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Quieter than browns, most definitely.
Quieter than most rubber domes, honestly.
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55g, unless you have weak 6 year old girl hands. I was underwhelmed by regular Topre, but 55g gives a major bon nerr due to awesomeness.
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I've got a 55g uniform.
Honestly very quiet, quieter than most of my Cherry boards. Maybe my RACE (no plate) with reds switches and o-rings may be quieter?
The sound it does have is quite a satisfying 'thock'. I am happy I didn't get the silent version now.
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The sound it does have is quite a satisfying 'thock'. I am happy I didn't get the silent version now.
The silencing is on the upstroke. The thock sound on the downstoke is the same in the silent version.
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55g, unless you have weak 6 year old girl hands
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Lol, I preferred lighter boards until I got the 55g. Liked that thing so much I was tempted to get another 55g, but the curiosity of trying the lighter Topres was just digging at my skull. Pulled the trigger on a Type-S just now :)) :confused:
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Lol! Gif master
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Pulled the trigger on a Type-S just now
(http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/q603/magicmeatballs/GIFS/gPOM4-Imgur_zps60d51ee2.gif)
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Honestly very quiet, quieter than most of my Cherry boards. Maybe my RACE (no plate) with reds switches and o-rings may be quieter?
I just replaced the E switch on my poker and went ahead and put o-rings on it. (Need PBT switches - as I've grown used to the feel of PBT and POM keys for the last 3 months).
And I was thoroughly surprised with how quiet black switches + o-rings really are. And the fact that the o-rings don't hinder me like they did on a cherry mx blue.
Lol, I preferred lighter boards until I got the 55g. Liked that thing so much I was tempted to get another 55g, but the curiosity of trying the lighter Topres was just digging at my skull. Pulled the trigger on a Type-S just now :)) :confused:
I kinda want to get a 45g uniform, simply because I like the lightness of my cherry mx reds -> and if I really do learn to love torpe, then it will be my main keyboard for my desk.... so I'd like to get it right on the first try. :(
But thanks for the info, I was aware the silencing was for the upstroke -> I'll keep that in mind. I'm still contemplating getting full sized, which would be variable weight.
Additionally, how are they silenced? Is it similar to the o-ring modification underneath the topre switch itself?
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Fug it, in the morning I'm going to be the future owner of a 55g 87u. I don't need another "sooper rare" korean custom.
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Fug it, in the morning I'm going to be the future owner of a 55g 87u. I don't need another "sooper rare" korean custom.
(http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/q603/magicmeatballs/GIFS/Mlpfb_zps0752626d.gif)
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The creepiest part of that? Darken both the beard and hair and that's *very* close to my current look.
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The creepiest part of that? Darken both the beard and hair and that's *very* close to my current look.
Manly men must use manly keyboards. Enuff said...
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The thread hijackers are attacking, runaway...
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Additionally, how are they silenced? Is it similar to the o-ring modification underneath the topre switch itself?
yes.
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main reason i like my realforce keyboard is that it's 45g. it stands further from usual rubber dome keyboards because it is much lighter.
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I'll never understand people who pay the extra for the Type-S. Don't get me wrong, I'm always happy to hear about another Topre owner, but god damn... the HHKB is already quiet enough as it is!
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I'll never understand people who pay the extra for the Type-S. Don't get me wrong, I'm always happy to hear about another Topre owner, but god damn... the HHKB is already quiet enough as it is!
mmmm not really. o2dazone posted a video on the difference in sound between silenced, and non-silenced HHKB's. It's pretty drastic.
And don't hate because I bought a type-s :P
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I am easily distracted. I don't want anybody to distract me with noises. That goes both ways - I don't wanna be all clackety clack at work when typing. A guy in his cubicle down the hall uses cherry blues now (QFR), he just doesn't care what people think - I actually got him into the world of mechanical keyboards lol. It also helps that he's Lead Developer... nobody can really tell him anything about his keyboard either way.
On the other hand I'm too lazy to open up a keyboard to mod it :))
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On the other hand I'm too lazy to open up a keyboard to mod it :))
This, too. I just didn't want to put in all of the work required to do the mod.
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I am easily distracted. I don't want anybody to distract me with noises.
nobody can be distracted with THOCK-THOCK-THOCK!
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mmmm not really. o2dazone posted a video on the difference in sound between silenced, and non-silenced HHKB's. It's pretty drastic.
And don't hate because I bought a type-s :P
Exactly. Not sure why so many hate on the Type-S. Yeah, it's expensive, but I'm really enjoying mine and I'm glad I made the purchase. $100 is more than worth the time it would've taken to do the mods myself.
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55g, unless you have weak 6 year old girl hands
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Don't get me wrong, my 45g is still a great board, but it's NOTHING compared to the 55g if you have heavy fingers. I rate the 45g barely above a Cherry Brown, and certainly not worth the premium, whereas the 55g is worth every penny. I don't even want to think about how much I would hate the 30g.
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55g, unless you have weak 6 year old girl hands
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Don't get me wrong, my 45g is still a great board, but it's NOTHING compared to the 55g if you have heavy fingers. I rate the 45g barely above a Cherry Brown, and certainly not worth the premium, whereas the 55g is worth every penny. I don't even want to think about how much I would hate the 30g.
for those with light fingers, 45g boards are very nice. where on earth could you get a rubber dome board that light? :p and i can't buy a new 55g anyways. it seems such boards are sold solely by ek, which doesn't ship to russia.
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mmmm not really. o2dazone posted a video on the difference in sound between silenced, and non-silenced HHKB's. It's pretty drastic.
And don't hate because I bought a type-s :P
It's all good! Happy to see more Topre users, regardless.
My point though wasn't to say that the Type-S isn't that big of a difference, which it is, but more so that the HHKB is already super quiet compared to most boards, so I always wonder at the motivation to drop $130 for even MORE quiet.
But then again, I used to think it was crazy to drop more than $100 on a keyboard, and here I am with 3 boards that I paid around $300 a pop for. lol
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mmmm not really. o2dazone posted a video on the difference in sound between silenced, and non-silenced HHKB's. It's pretty drastic.
And don't hate because I bought a type-s :P
It's all good! Happy to see more Topre users, regardless.
My point though wasn't to say that the Type-S isn't that big of a difference, which it is, but more so that the HHKB is already super quiet compared to most boards, so I always wonder at the motivation to drop $130 for even MORE quiet.
But then again, I used to think it was crazy to drop more than $100 on a keyboard, and here I am with 3 boards that I paid around $300 a pop for. lol
Now I'm having the hardest time deciding if I want a HHKB or a realforce...
Edit: So many quote blocks.
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Now I'm having the hardest time deciding if I want a HHKB or a realforce...
HHKB all the way!
I was debating the same thing 2 weeks ago with a friend, he ended getting the realforce I got the hhkb. After playing with the realforce and my hhkb I could not be happier with my purchase. If I were to buy another topre board I would go with another hhkb, the white version so I can swap keys ;D
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Now I'm having the hardest time deciding if I want a HHKB or a realforce...
HHKB all the way!
I was debating the same thing 2 weeks ago with a friend, he ended getting the realforce I got the hhkb. After playing with the realforce and my hhkb I could not be happier with my purchase. If I were to buy another topre board I would go with another hhkb, the white version so I can swap keys ;D
Why do you like it more?
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You just gotta type on one. It's a magical experience. Hard to explain.
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You just gotta type on one. It's a magical experience. Hard to explain.
Which of your topre boards is your daily driver? I'm curious to know. I've been debating which keyboard to order from elitekeyboards all weekend long.
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You just gotta type on one. It's a magical experience. Hard to explain.
Topre in general or HHKB?
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The HHKB
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Which of your topre boards is your daily driver? I'm curious to know. I've been debating which keyboard to order from elitekeyboards all weekend long.
Unfortunately, it's my 55g's (one at home, one at work). On the weekends I try to switch to the HHKB, but for work I need the arrows and insert/delete cluster for visual studio :(
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Hey Daerid...you should start a Topre tour with one of your boards!
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Which of your topre boards is your daily driver? I'm curious to know. I've been debating which keyboard to order from elitekeyboards all weekend long.
Unfortunately, it's my 55g's (one at home, one at work). On the weekends I try to switch to the HHKB, but for work I need the arrows and insert/delete cluster for visual studio :(
Sounds like it's time sell the HHKB.
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Which of your topre boards is your daily driver? I'm curious to know. I've been debating which keyboard to order from elitekeyboards all weekend long.
Unfortunately, it's my 55g's (one at home, one at work). On the weekends I try to switch to the HHKB, but for work I need the arrows and insert/delete cluster for visual studio :(
Sounds like it's time sell the HHKB.
Doubt it
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Which of your topre boards is your daily driver? I'm curious to know. I've been debating which keyboard to order from elitekeyboards all weekend long.
Unfortunately, it's my 55g's (one at home, one at work). On the weekends I try to switch to the HHKB, but for work I need the arrows and insert/delete cluster for visual studio :(
Are you saying the arrow FN keys are impossible to use in visual studio?
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Which of your topre boards is your daily driver? I'm curious to know. I've been debating which keyboard to order from elitekeyboards all weekend long.
Unfortunately, it's my 55g's (one at home, one at work). On the weekends I try to switch to the HHKB, but for work I need the arrows and insert/delete cluster for visual studio :(
Are you saying the arrow FN keys are impossible to use in visual studio?
I personally think the arrow keys are just fine, obviously not as convenient as having dedicated arrows but once you get used to using fn I find the arrow placement to be ideal. If however you are constantly using arrow keys for work / projects and have been for a long time I can see how the process of learning fn+arrow can be a pain.
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Which of your topre boards is your daily driver? I'm curious to know. I've been debating which keyboard to order from elitekeyboards all weekend long.
Unfortunately, it's my 55g's (one at home, one at work). On the weekends I try to switch to the HHKB, but for work I need the arrows and insert/delete cluster for visual studio :(
Are you saying the arrow FN keys are impossible to use in visual studio?
I personally think the arrow keys are just fine, obviously not as convenient as having dedicated arrows but once you get used to using fn I find the arrow placement to be ideal. If however you are constantly using arrow keys for work / projects and have been for a long time I can see how the process of learning fn+arrow can be a pain.
Pretty decided that I'm going to be buying one pretty soon. Too bad the black with lettering is on back order on EK.
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Sounds like it's time sell the HHKB.
Hell no. I'm willing this thing to my kid, god damnit.
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Are you saying the arrow FN keys are impossible to use in visual studio?
No, I'm saying that with my work schedule and over a decade of muscle memory using the arrows + ins/del cluster it's not really feasible at this time for me to make the switch full time.
Hey Daerid...you should start a Topre tour with one of your boards!
I'm not sure I'd be willing to let them out of my grasp for that long lol
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Sounds like it's time sell the HHKB.
Hell no. I'm willing this thing to my kid, god damnit.
Lol.
On the HHKB note, would you suggest getting printed over non-printed?
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If you're not used to it, definitely. I still glance at it occasionally when trying to get the page up/down and home/end right.
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Sounds like it's time sell the HHKB.
Hell no. I'm willing this thing to my kid, god damnit.
i heard topre switches do not last longer than 5 years.
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i heard topre switches do not last longer than 5 years.
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I must say Realforce(in particular variable one) feels a tad better than HHKB(pro and pro2) from my experience, though I have only two Realforce 101(variable) and 106s(30g? 35g?). Unlike most of Topre lovers around here I like variable force definitely :)
Unfortunately I deeply love HHKB for its small footprint and layout and can't survive with hulking Realforce in this hard world :D
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Well then I'll just replace it when it does decide to crap out. But I don't see myself ever willingly selling any HHKB. I love this thing way too much
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5 years? That's a bit pessimistic. Maybe the actuation force will go up a bit because the rubber gets old.
This stuff is called Rubber Renue. Also you can lube the switches.
http://www.amazon.com/MG-Chemicals-Rubber-Liquid-Bottle/dp/B008O9X3KS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1362428377&sr=8-1&keywords=rubber+renew
The point of the capacitive switch is that there's little friction or parts bumping together - the spring goes down enough to actuate (I STILL don't know exactly how this works, but it seems like it would be more long-lasting than say a complicated switch like Cherry blues, browns or clears.)
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AFAIK, Topre switches are rated for something like 30M keypresses, whereas Cherries are rated at 50M. I haven't been keeping count though :-X
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5 years? That's a bit pessimistic. Maybe the actuation force will go up a bit because the rubber gets old.
This stuff is called Rubber Renue. Also you can lube the switches.
http://www.amazon.com/MG-Chemicals-Rubber-Liquid-Bottle/dp/B008O9X3KS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1362428377&sr=8-1&keywords=rubber+renew
The point of the capacitive switch is that there's little friction or parts bumping together - the spring goes down enough to actuate (I STILL don't know exactly how this works, but it seems like it would be more long-lasting than say a complicated switch like Cherry blues, browns or clears.)
you are right, the switch itself (the spring) could live looooooooong, it's all about aging of domes.