Forget what geekwhack thinks about these Cherry ML switches, because I am loving them. Every review I heard of them pretty much being short throw browns I'd say is the closest thing I can think of to describing them. The one thing would be that they feel quite a bit more tactile than browns. Perhaps not more force to pass the bump, but it definitely comes on sharper. It is interesting though, because they are quieter than browns. Hell they are even quieter than blacks. They still sound like browns though, just significantly quieter. I don't know the reason why they are like that, but I have definitely found my new keyboard to use around people whom are easily disturbed.
Another hit and miss. I really like the layout for a sub-TKL, unfortunately, it doesn't have a super (Windows) key. For me this is a pain in the butt since Ubuntu/Unity use it for a lot of things. Really wish they would have added the super and right control key in under a function layer of the left alt and ins key respectively.
QuoteForget what geekwhack thinks about these Cherry ML switches, because I am loving them. Every review I heard of them pretty much being short throw browns I'd say is the closest thing I can think of to describing them. The one thing would be that they feel quite a bit more tactile than browns. Perhaps not more force to pass the bump, but it definitely comes on sharper. It is interesting though, because they are quieter than browns. Hell they are even quieter than blacks. They still sound like browns though, just significantly quieter. I don't know the reason why they are like that, but I have definitely found my new keyboard to use around people whom are easily disturbed.
I'd say the tactility is somewhere between browns and clears. Peak force about 55 cN is a bit too much for me, especially in combination with switches being a bit sticky—I miss a keystroke every now and then. I'd have to smash the keys hard, and bottom out rather heavily to get rid of the stickiness, but the tactility would be irrelevant then. Maybe I should lube all switches, as someone suggested in the last thread about Cherry ML (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40553.0). I suppose the keyboard would be rather quiet as well, but not completely because of keycaps (mine are lasered&filled ABS). It isn't even close to being silent now.QuoteAnother hit and miss. I really like the layout for a sub-TKL, unfortunately, it doesn't have a super (Windows) key. For me this is a pain in the butt since Ubuntu/Unity use it for a lot of things. Really wish they would have added the super and right control key in under a function layer of the left alt and ins key respectively.
Mine (G84-4100LCMTS-2) has a Win/Meta keys (between Fn and Alt, and between AltGr and Menu).
I love my little Cherry ML. Used it for coding in the office until I went for a Unicomp Ultra Classic.did you make that esc key?Show Image(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll236/jkercado/temporary-32.jpg)
I like my ML keyboard, but not as much as sth.I love my little Cherry ML. Used it for coding in the office until I went for a Unicomp Ultra Classic.did you make that esc key?Show Image(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll236/jkercado/temporary-32.jpg)
OP: way to insult the whole board... not all of us hate ML :P
For those that find the missing window key annoying, ctrl + esc = shortcut for window key. Problem solved :Dnot as a modifier, and only in windows
I love this board, but the lack of a Windows key is kind of a deal breaker in Windows 8.(http://allemalice.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/dealbreaker.jpg)
Your G84-4100PCAUS-0 has pad printed ABS keycaps. The "P" signifies pad printing.
G84-4101LCAUS has lasered POM keycaps:Show Image(http://i1148.photobucket.com/albums/o580/eth0sz/CherryG84-4101LCAUS-02-1.jpg)
G84-4101SPAUS has dye sub PBTShow Image(http://i1148.photobucket.com/albums/o580/eth0sz/keyboardpics2-20-13008.jpg)
Hundreds of replacements here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/20-CHERRY-G84-4137TAAIT-KEYBOARDS-/281064559680?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item4170c0d440
I love this board, but the lack of a Windows key is kind of a deal breaker in Windows 8.i have one with a winkey that i got on ebay. it's qwertz but since all the keys are the same you can just swap them
I read your article. And it is a very good review. Except the part about the product codes.
You said your keyboard is a G84-4100PCAUS-0.
We know the type of keycaps that are on that keyboard from the Cherry product codes. Each letter signifies something.
The first letter in a three or five-letter letter code always signifies keycap type and quality*:
L = Lasered PBT or POM
P = Pad-printed ABS
H = Double-shot ABS (Hochdruck Spritzguss)
S = Dye-sublimated PBT (Sublimationsdruck)
* Quoted from: http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_article_numbers
So you definitely have pad-printed ABS. Which are perfectly good keycaps.