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geekhack Community => Keyboards => Topic started by: frowni on Tue, 12 March 2013, 21:07:39
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Hi there,
I used to have Filco Tenkeyless Cherry Blue. My wife couldn't stand the noise anymore so i gave it to a friend. Now, i'm using Dell quietkey :)
I can't stand this rubber sh**. My brother is in London right now so i can order him a new Filco keyboard.(i live in Turkey by the way, i can't try these switches cause we don't have mechanical keyboards:P) I'm trying to decide between brown and red. I'm %70 typing %30 gaming. I'm a fast writer and i would prefer the lighter switch :) And i want it to be much quieter than blues :)
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Considering that you already have a keyboard with tactile switches, I would recommend red switch. But don't expect red switch to be much more quite than blue switch.
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I'd go with browns considering your "%70 typing %30 gaming" ratio.
Considering that you already have a keyboard with tactile switches, I would recommend red switch. But don't expect red switch to be much more quite than blue switch.
Whaaaat? Blues are SO much noisier than browns or reds. Ugh, that click >.>
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MX switches will only be quiet if you don't bottom out regardless of the switch, but browns and reds don't have the click to them so they are a bit quieter. I'd recommend brown switches as the tactile bump is nice for typing. I've owned reds and blacks and have disliked both just because there's nothing there until you hit the bottom. Browns usually tend to appeal to more people than liner switches.
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I'd go with browns considering your "%70 typing %30 gaming" ratio.
Considering that you already have a keyboard with tactile switches, I would recommend red switch. But don't expect red switch to be much more quite than blue switch.
Whaaaat? Blues are SO much noisier than browns or reds. Ugh, that click >.>
lol I would not call red switch as quite. But I have never used blue switch so, I guess, don't quote me on that.
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I own at least 1 keyboard with every one of the common switches and I feel that reds are quieter than blues due to not having the click. Depending on how hard you bottom out though, reds will still be a little loud.
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Bottom out or not, red is quieter than brown then brown is quieter than blue.
Picking red or brown was a very hard choice for me. But in general I find brown is easily to like. You'll most likely get used to it right away. While red took me a long time, but after I got used to it I like red better for both typing and gaming.
But if you want fast results and good first impression, brown will feel better for typing initially.
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I like both reds and browns.
For typing, I have to say I personally prefer the browns. The slight tactile feedback is just enough to make the typing experience that little bit nicer. Also, while force necessary to register a keystroke is similar, the browns feel a tad bit heavier and I do not unintentionally push a key through the tactile bump. With the reds however, I can not help but have a lot more accidental keypresses. There is another things about the tactile feedback that I like. Somehow, almost subconsciously, I know when a keypress is registered which prevents me from bottoming out. On the reds, without such feedback, I always bottomed out on every single keystroke. While the slight tactility gives some audible noisy feedback, I found that the majority of the noise comes from bottoming out. All in all I think the two switches are equally loud for me, maybe the browns are actually a tad bit quieter because of the thing I mentioned. Neither one will be as quiet as the keyboard you are using now unless you can manage to never bottom out.
For gaming I like browns better as well. Reds feel more "immediate" and "instant" since it feels like a key is registered the moment your finger hits the keycap. This is great for example FPS, general WASD movement, using hotkeys in MOBA's etc. However, there are some games where I do not like it so much, and I would like to avoid accidental button presses and such. This is for example in some RTS. Here I like the feedback from the browns more, just like I do when typing. I actually end up doing more actions per minute on the browns, because I use them with more confidence and less caution.
This is of course, just my opinion. But that is really all anyone can give you on the subject.
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i'd go with reds. they definitely have a learing curve, but they are worth it. and what does "i feel that reds are quieter than blues due to not having the click" mean? they ARE quieter than blues due to not having the click.
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I faced the same problem when i was buying my first keyboard. I went with browns and am very happy with my decision. They provide just enough feedback!
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Personally I really miss the tactile feel on my reds. Really it is all a matter of personal opinion and in all honestly both boards are great to type on. My preference so far when it comes to cherry mx switches has been brown > red > blue. I have to say reds are awesome for gaming though.
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Based on your requirements I'd normally recommend a Matias Quiet Pro, but assuming those would be hard to find there, count me as another vote for Browns. I used a Filco with browns at work for a while, and I got a few comments, but never really any complaints. I think my cube neighbors were just quietly annoyed.
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I'll agree that browns are probably the better choice for you because of your typing needs and coming from another board that has tactile feedback.
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I can speak to this one a bit. I'm currently typing on Browns (as I'm on lunch break at work) and use Reds on my home board (primarily for gaming, although I occasionally work from home).
I love the Reds, but I bottom out on them very easily. I had to get used to them, particularly for more intense FPSes. When I get excited I press harder on the keys and would occasionally end up going in strange directions because I was pressing so hard on WASD and accidentally activating more than one key. That took about a month to get over, but now that I've adjusted I love Reds for gaming. For typing they are perfectly fine and I have never had issues with unwanted letters coming out, although others have different experiences on that front.
I've had Browns for almost a week (so I'm still in the honeymoon period, but hopefully that isn't clouding my judgement too much) and use them primarily for typing. The tactile bump is hugely helpful for realizing when the key has been pressed far enough and I adjusted to not bottoming out almost immediately. I did game a bit on the Browns before I brought in the board to work and had good results. I didn't play anything too terribly intense (finally getting to Mass Effect 3) but the tactility was helpful. For the most part I was able to keep from bottoming out, though in a situation where I had to concentrate on the game more I would not notice the bump.
For noise I definitely recommend getting O-rings or dampeners. My Reds got loud from bottoming out so I ordered the red O-rings from WASDKeyboards and now my board is infinitely quieter. As others have said, the main difference in noise between Reds and Browns comes down to whether you bottom out, so dampeners or O-rings will help with either switch.
In the end, it mostly comes down to personal preference as to which you will like better. I like Reds more for gaming and Browns more for typing, but you really can't go wrong with either one.
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Red switch is best switch.
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correction.
Red switch is the best stock cherry switch.