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Title: Filco for sale
Post by: rodney on Tue, 19 February 2008, 22:08:04
After lurking for a while, I finally registered here.

Anyways, I recently purchased a Filco majestouch (FKB104M/EB) from beNippon but decided that I'm not going to keep it (going to get a HHKP 2 instead). At this point my order is in processing and it's too late to cancel it.

I thought I'd see if anyone here would be interested in buying it from me. I'm in the U.S. PM me if you might be interested.

--Rodney
Title: Filco for sale
Post by: iMav on Wed, 20 February 2008, 06:43:01
Welcome to geekhack Rodney!

So, are you just having buyer's remorse?  Just curious as to why you have decided to offload the board before laying a hand on it.  

[ iMav takes time to actually read your post ]

Aha!  So, you want a HHKB Pro instead.  Good choice!  I would suggest having both...but it's not my money we are dealing with here.  :)
Title: Filco for sale
Post by: rodney on Wed, 20 February 2008, 15:14:00
Thanks for the welcome, iMav.

Unfortunately, I was a bit rash with the purchase. I love the cherry MX switches and have had them on my last keyboard, which I've used for the past few years. I just got a chance to try my friend's HHKB pro and I really like the feel of it.

Ultimately, if there is no interest in the Filco here, I might just end up keeping it for myself.
Title: Filco for sale
Post by: zerogravitas on Wed, 20 February 2008, 15:57:07
I've been toying with getting a nice keyboard myself, but I'm having difficulty deciding which to get.   I am considering a Filco, but I really want one with full N-key rollover and that doesn't appear to be available at the moment.  :-/

I'm also looking at the HHKB pro v2 and the CVT Avant Stellar. CVT isn't responding to my emails yet. O_o Nonmouse has also been extolling the virtues of his Cherry POS keyboard, making it sound really appealing as well. :)

Anyway, any thoughts?

/end hijack
Title: Filco for sale
Post by: iMav on Wed, 20 February 2008, 20:44:47
Quote from: zerogravitas;3148
I've been toying with getting a nice keyboard myself, but I'm having difficulty deciding which to get.   I am considering a Filco, but I really want one with full N-key rollover and that doesn't appear to be available at the moment.  :-/

Isn't the Filco on the beNippon site simply because xsphat requested it?  Why not contact them regarding purchasing the n-key rollover model for you?
Title: Filco for sale
Post by: zerogravitas on Wed, 20 February 2008, 23:16:58
Quote from: iMav;3157
Isn't the Filco on the beNippon site simply because xsphat requested it?  Why not contact them regarding purchasing the n-key rollover model for you?


I've actually been corresponding  with the son of one of my coworkers. He is currently living in Japan teaching English, and he has been kind enough to look into it for me.  Apparently the N-Key-Rollover version is can't be ordered from the Diatec web site at the moment.  

The english version of the Diatec (http://www.diatec.co.jp/en/det.php?prod_c=522) page has a very unhelpful "11/5 on sale".  I ran the japanese Diatec  (http://www.diatec.co.jp/products/det.php?prod_c=522)page for the n-key-rollover version FKBN104M/EB through a couple online translators, and get the following:

Babelish
"For the stock being cut off, we have stopped the incoming order with mail order at one time."

Google Tranlator
"Stock for the mail order to suspend orders."

The non N-key rollover FKB104M/EB page says:

"We sell this commodity with the diamond TEX online shop"

or

"This product is sold with DAIYATEKKUONRAINSHOPPU"

I've tried to look and see if it is available online elsewhere in Japan, but my Google-Fu kinda falls over when it comes to Japanese.  It's all very vexing. :) I've toyed with using something like BeNippon to see if they can find it in a store or something however.  I may still do that, assuming I decide the Filco is the one I want (I keep going back and forth).
Title: Filco for sale
Post by: xsphat on Wed, 20 February 2008, 23:54:37
Quote from: iMav;3157
Isn't the Filco on the beNippon site simply because xsphat requested it?  Why not contact them regarding purchasing the n-key rollover model for you?


Actually, I requested the Realforce 101. The Filco showed up later and looked better to me so I bough it instead.
Title: Filco for sale
Post by: zerogravitas on Thu, 21 February 2008, 07:06:55
I just heard back from beNippon.

Quote
Unfortunately, the FKBN104M/EB is soldout as you can check here:
http://www.diatec.co.jp/products/det.php?prod_c=522 (the red japaneses
characters at the bottom of the page means it is soldout)
Sorry.


Doh!
Title: Filco for sale
Post by: zerogravitas on Thu, 21 February 2008, 22:21:16
Well, after emailing Diatec again, I finally got them to respond to me.  lol  According to Shikano, "FKBN104M/EB will be available mid of March again."
Title: Filco for sale
Post by: rodney on Fri, 22 February 2008, 10:52:10
After a bit of searching I was able to find this site (http://item.rakuten.co.jp/filco/10000205/) that seems to have that model   in stock.
Title: Filco for sale
Post by: zerogravitas on Fri, 22 February 2008, 14:41:30
Great, thanks! :D
Title: Filco for sale
Post by: rodney on Mon, 14 April 2008, 19:41:20
My friend is selling a new Filco FKBN104M/EB (n-key rollover version.) Thought I'd pass the info along here. Contact me if you might be interested.

Sorry for the necro.
Title: Filco for sale
Post by: Bluemercury on Tue, 15 April 2008, 10:40:37
Im also looking for a nice keyboard with alps switches, since i already own a blue cherry switch keyboard and two buckling spring IBM ones, still i wonder if this filco is more clicky than my DAS KEYBOARD with the blue switches.
Title: Filco for sale
Post by: sashomasho on Tue, 15 April 2008, 14:41:57
Quote from: Bluemercury;3997
Im also looking for a nice keyboard with alps switches, since i already own a blue cherry switch keyboard and two buckling spring IBM ones, still i wonder if this filco is more clicky than my DAS KEYBOARD with the blue switches.

definitely it will not be more clicky... i replaced my scorpius m10 (with the same blue switches as the das) with this filco (the non nkey rollover version), and now, after 3 years with model m, and 3 months with the m10, my colleagues are finally happy, and so am i, the filco is excellent quiet keyboard, at least it's quieter than their stiff membrane keyboards, and you can't go wrong with it...
Title: Filco for sale
Post by: xsphat on Tue, 15 April 2008, 14:42:22
Since the n-key rollover model is only available in black and brown Cherry switches, that keyboard is not clicky at all.
Title: Filco for sale
Post by: Bluemercury on Tue, 15 April 2008, 16:50:44
Regarding the alps switches, which ones are more clicky and loud, orange, black or the white ones?Im asking because there seems to be some who have different impressions.
Title: Filco for sale
Post by: alpslover on Tue, 15 April 2008, 21:49:48
Quote from: Bluemercury;4010
Regarding the alps switches, which ones are more clicky and loud, orange, black or the white ones?Im asking because there seems to be some who have different impressions.


the white ones are the clickiest.  there are also cream colored alps which some people mistake for the white ones, but they're not nearly as clicky.  that's where some of the confusion probably comes from.
Title: Filco for sale
Post by: Jaydoublem on Tue, 15 April 2008, 22:06:39
Are there any people that particularly like pink alps switches. I am asking because some people have put them in the soft tactile category. The soft tactile category also includes the brown cherrys. I imagine in that case that pink alps could be a cheap way to get a Filco like Keyboard.
Title: Filco for sale
Post by: xsphat on Tue, 15 April 2008, 23:29:22
The pink Alps switches in my Apple Desktop Bus keyboard were lighter than the black Alps in my SMK85 but they were heavier than the white Alps in my MK96.

None of these were as light as the Cherry browns.
Title: Filco for sale
Post by: Bluemercury on Fri, 18 April 2008, 19:58:54
Quote from: xsphat;4019
The pink Alps switches in my Apple Desktop Bus keyboard were lighter than the black Alps in my SMK85 but they were heavier than the white Alps in my MK96.

None of these were as light as the Cherry browns.


Im actually very fond of the blue cherry ones in the DAS keyboard, i was wondering if you think i should go for a white or black alps keyboard?
Title: Filco for sale
Post by: xsphat on Sat, 19 April 2008, 10:23:04
Quote from: Bluemercury;4077
Im actually very fond of the blue cherry ones in the DAS keyboard, i was wondering if you think i should go for a white or black alps keyboard?


I would have to say go for the white Alps switches. They have more of a clean feeling than any other Alps I've used, but I honestly like the Cherry switch better than the Alps now since I own keyboards with Cherry black, brown and blue switches.
Title: Filco for sale
Post by: Bluemercury on Sat, 19 April 2008, 10:48:58
You seem to like the browns the most, how do they compare to the blue ones?
Title: Filco for sale
Post by: xsphat on Mon, 21 April 2008, 11:57:12
They are a different thing entirely. They are similar to the blacks but without the sucky bottom-end. They don't click. The closest thing to them you don't have - the Topre capacitive switch in the HHKB Pro. They also are similar to the Cherry ML, but lighter and smoother feeling.
Title: Filco for sale
Post by: Bluemercury on Mon, 21 April 2008, 13:08:44
Also, i've seen here in the forum that people dont seem to like the strongman alps imitation switches.....are they really that bad?
Title: Filco for sale
Post by: xsphat on Mon, 21 April 2008, 13:42:26
I have not used Strongmans, anyone else?