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Title: Is there 60% with double Fn, and big BS and Shifts?
Post by: omgFiRE on Mon, 08 April 2013, 08:02:44
Hello, everyone.

I haven't convinced myself to try 60% board due to their non-standard mechanical layouts. Is there 60% board with mechanical layout, that I would like?:
- Ability to activate Fn by both hands, and I still need Ctrl, Win, Alt at the left side of the lowest row. This means 4 buttons on the left of spacebar.
- Relatively big BackSpace, left Shift, right Shift (at least 1.5x width).
- Presence of Space button under `N' `M' buttons, because my space bar shines at this position  :)

Preferably:
- Alpha-numeric buttons at their standard positions.
- Left mod keys (Tab, CapsLock, Shift, Ctrl, Win, Alt) at their standard positions.
- Left side of right Shift at standard position, but length of right Shift could be reduced (but should be at least 1.5x).
- Alt Gr should be somewhere at right side of the lowest row, but I don't care of its exact position.
- I don't care of right Win, right Ctrl, Menu keys. Neither of theirs positions or presence.

I attached two of many layouts, which satisfy mentioned wishes.


Thanks.
Title: Re: Is there 60% with double Fn, and big BS and Shifts?
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 08 April 2013, 08:50:52
There is no 60% keyboard I am aware of that has 4 keys on the left of the spacebar.

metalliqaz's Epsilon 75% board does, though...

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41390.0
Title: Re: Is there 60% with double Fn, and big BS and Shifts?
Post by: samwisekoi on Mon, 08 April 2013, 09:37:21
New Filco has all but the big BS key:

(http://i.imgur.com/MtX9xDdh.jpg)

Here is the thread:  http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40018.0

 - Ron | samwisekoi
(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/Leo.png)
Title: Re: Is there 60% with double Fn, and big BS and Shifts?
Post by: tricheboars on Mon, 08 April 2013, 10:36:37
GH60
Title: Re: Is there 60% with double Fn, and big BS and Shifts?
Post by: justin.wu on Mon, 08 April 2013, 11:18:55
Hi,,you can check TEX keyboard "beetle" (TKB-600)

that's almost layout you want , but just a little different !

if you still have question , come our fans club , http://www.facebook.com/pages/TEX-Electronics-Co-Ltd/472792412756463

you can ask any question in this post or in our fans club !!

cheers !!

Hello, everyone.

I haven't convinced myself to try 60% board due to their non-standard mechanical layouts. Is there 60% board with mechanical layout, that I would like?:
- Ability to activate Fn by both hands, and I still need Ctrl, Win, Alt at the left side of the lowest row. This means 4 buttons on the left of spacebar.
- Relatively big BackSpace, left Shift, right Shift (at least 1.5x width).
- Presence of Space button under `N' `M' buttons, because my space bar shines at this position  :)

Preferably:
- Alpha-numeric buttons at their standard positions.
- Left mod keys (Tab, CapsLock, Shift, Ctrl, Win, Alt) at their standard positions.
- Left side of right Shift at standard position, but length of right Shift could be reduced (but should be at least 1.5x).
- Alt Gr should be somewhere at right side of the lowest row, but I don't care of its exact position.
- I don't care of right Win, right Ctrl, Menu keys. Neither of theirs positions or presence.

I attached two of many layouts, which satisfy mentioned wishes.


Thanks.
Title: Re: Is there 60% with double Fn, and big BS and Shifts?
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 08 April 2013, 11:35:07
Hey, look at that. Only the right shift doesn't meet your criteria, but everything else is there.

Turns out you wanted a Tex Beetle. (Justin, everyone will call this a "Bug," just like the VW car.)
Title: Re: Is there 60% with double Fn, and big BS and Shifts?
Post by: justin.wu on Mon, 08 April 2013, 11:40:26
Ha !! bug is cool !! but why we want call this keyboard "beetle"

because beetle has a hard shell and colorful , red / blue / gray / black / gold ....etc

than's just like our keyboard , CNC top frame ...hard and colorful


just like that

(http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/files/attach/images/60/565/297/006/6c77f2508e7f1421e7d951a763bdcd50.jpg)
(http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/files/attach/images/60/565/297/006/768c0f89ad3887488b4108289a3f166f.jpg)



Hey, look at that. Only the right shift doesn't meet your criteria, but everything else is there.

Turns out you wanted a Tex Beetle. (Justin, everyone will call this a "Bug," just like the VW car.)
Title: Re: Is there 60% with double Fn, and big BS and Shifts?
Post by: omgFiRE on Tue, 09 April 2013, 04:40:02
There is no 60% keyboard I am aware of that has 4 keys on the left of the spacebar.
metalliqaz's Epsilon 75% board does, though...
Thanks, but I don't think I need Fn at all on 75%, only on 60%  :)

New Filco has all but the big BS key:
Let's check:
BackSpace at least 1.5x - failed
right Shift at least 1.5x - failed
Space button under `N' `M' buttons - partially
Alpha-numeric buttons at their standard positions - failed ("ZXC" row is shifted by 0.25x to the left)
Left mod keys (Ctrl, Win, Alt) at their standard positions. - failed (Ctrl is freakish big)
"I don't care of right Win, right Ctrl, Menu keys. Neither of theirs positions or presence." - passed  :)

GH60
I don't understand you. Does it have 4 keys on the left of spacebar? Do you mean using spacebar as Fn (for example, space+7->F7)?

Hi,,you can check TEX keyboard "beetle" (TKB-600)
that's almost layout you want , but just a little different !
if you still have question , come our fans club , http://www.facebook.com/pages/TEX-Electronics-Co-Ltd/472792412756463
you can ask any question in this post or in our fans club !!
cheers !!
Hi!
That's the best layout to my taste, which I have seen so far. I hope your project become successful.
I don't have experience with shifted "ZXC" row. How does it affect touch typing, in case of multiple keyboards in use with slightly different "ZXC" row position?
Thank you.

Turns out you wanted a Tex Beetle.
Turns out I do.  :)
Too bad, that double Fn are incompatible with big right Shift.  :(