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Title: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: dante on Wed, 17 April 2013, 21:13:19
Someone on the forums might be able to source these but they might need a bit of a financial incentive.  I'd like to think there would be enough demand for 50 sets of 104 blank or side print black POM keycaps.  I may even contact MechanicalKeyboards.com and see if they would be interested in helping bulk up the ordering numbers.

Please answer these question(s):

1. How much would you be willing to pay tops?

2. How many sets would you order?  How would price reflect this?

3. Do you prefer blank or side print?

If you have no intention of paying please do not reply.
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 18 April 2013, 10:53:28
I would like one blank set, pay up to $55.
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: animated on Thu, 18 April 2013, 11:06:18
im up for the pom side print :) ill pay what ever the GB price is, since you cant even find side printed poms....right?  Someone please let me know if you can get them somewhere already!!
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: The_Beast on Thu, 18 April 2013, 11:08:19
Cheaper = better since I've never tried POM caps before
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: Tarzan on Thu, 18 April 2013, 11:11:32
What's an example of a keyboard with stock POM keycaps?  I'm just wondering if I've ever seen/typed on these. 
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: animated on Thu, 18 April 2013, 11:15:57
What's an example of a keyboard with stock POM keycaps?  I'm just wondering if I've ever seen/typed on these. 

My Das keyboard has blank POM keys.  They feel really smooth and soft.  I wouldn't describe it as slippery.  I noticed that it is a love hate thing on the forums.
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 18 April 2013, 11:19:01
Well, since I'm the one that keeps asking him about it...

I'm in for a set (obviously). :D

Blank or side-printed, doesn't matter.

I would also pay like $55...
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 18 April 2013, 11:21:45
I would be in for side printed, with red (a nice red, like the Rag set) Cherry legends, in Cherry profile.

edit: and some FJ scoops!!

edit2: and 7x/1.5x!!!!!!
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: dante on Thu, 18 April 2013, 11:27:50
I would be in for side printed, with red (a nice red, like the Rag set) Cherry legends, in Cherry profile.

edit: and some FJ scoops!!

edit2: and 7x/1.5x!!!!!!

Sorry - all three requests are not possible.  This would be a standard 104 set like most sets you see for sale.
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 18 April 2013, 11:29:52
Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

I why won't they let me vote with my wallet?
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: dante on Thu, 18 April 2013, 11:31:24
Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

I why won't they let me vote with my wallet?

From what I understand most manufacturers make POM for their own keyboard; it's difficult enough as it is to get them to sell them separately.
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: dante on Thu, 18 April 2013, 11:32:54
What's an example of a keyboard with stock POM keycaps?  I'm just wondering if I've ever seen/typed on these. 

My Das keyboard has blank POM keys.  They feel really smooth and soft.  I wouldn't describe it as slippery.  I noticed that it is a love hate thing on the forums.

It's important to differentiate that the DAS 2 had POM keycaps, the DAS 3 are all ABS.
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: csloan1218 on Thu, 18 April 2013, 11:35:22
Would these be black on white or white on black?
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: dante on Thu, 18 April 2013, 11:37:15
Would these be black on white or white on black?

White on Black.
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: Jocelyn on Thu, 18 April 2013, 12:07:19
One set for up to $55, blanks only
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: maxmalkav on Thu, 18 April 2013, 12:11:02
One blank set for about $55 and ISO
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 18 April 2013, 13:31:44
id take a set of either at 55 as that seems to be the rule right now
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: Dgsbllx on Thu, 18 April 2013, 13:32:51
Blanks, $54.99
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: bazemk1979 on Thu, 18 April 2013, 16:36:59
can we see sample pics of the pom keycaps with legends?
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: dante on Fri, 19 April 2013, 12:34:25
can we see sample pics of the pom keycaps with legends?

See pictures of the Noppoo Choc Pro RF for an idea of what the side printed would look like.
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: danielucf on Fri, 19 April 2013, 16:46:28
$65 if it supported regular keyboards, 7x spacebar with 1.5x mods, and iso. Maybe $70 since it might support so many layouts. $75 tops if it supported everything.
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: bazemk1979 on Fri, 19 April 2013, 16:49:20
can we see sample pics of the pom keycaps with legends?

See pictures of the Noppoo Choc Pro RF for an idea of what the side printed would look like.
difference between the pom vs abs and pbt?

I know whats the difference between abs and pbt, but whats so special about pom keycaps?
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: dante on Fri, 19 April 2013, 20:06:32
I know whats the difference between abs and pbt, but whats so special about pom keycaps?

POM have a special feel to them.  They feel a bit wet/slick like they are made out of oil but still have a nice soft texture.

Very unique feeling, not for everyone.
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: bazemk1979 on Fri, 19 April 2013, 23:47:34
how fast do they shine vs PBT and ABS?
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: dante on Sat, 20 April 2013, 08:20:54
how fast do they shine vs PBT and ABS?

Slower than ABS, quicker than PBT.  Really a middle of the road material.
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: poog on Sun, 21 April 2013, 03:24:30
i'd be interested in either set
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: bazemk1979 on Sun, 21 April 2013, 09:10:31
how fast do they shine vs PBT and ABS?

Slower than ABS, quicker than PBT.  Really a middle of the road material.
thanks :)
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: F u r u y á on Mon, 06 May 2013, 16:28:27
I'm all for a POM Blank full set (87 or 104)!

Also I don't know about POM wearing faster than PBT! Technical information is provided by limmy here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=26646.msg553377#msg553377) (POM = 3*PBT = 60*ABS, in terms of wear rate).
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: dante on Mon, 06 May 2013, 22:17:36
FIGHT TEH POWER.  SCREAM IT FROM THE TOPS OF THE ROOF TOPS:

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34891.msg882384#msg882384
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: Binge on Mon, 06 May 2013, 22:50:18
would love me some POM options.  Whatever colors can be had I'd be interested in seeing.
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: GeoTang on Tue, 07 May 2013, 00:39:05
No cherry profile :C
I would buy 1 blank set for 50 bucks
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: noisyturtle on Tue, 07 May 2013, 01:47:42
Side print POM would be a real curio. I would defiantly be down for a set at around $45-60. What colors though? Black with green legends? Yup.
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: F u r u y á on Tue, 07 May 2013, 05:29:24
would love me some POM options.  Whatever colors can be had I'd be interested in seeing.

Yeah, as long as it's blank I'm in! White or Black are the most popular choices.
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: Surnia on Tue, 07 May 2013, 20:09:57
Hadn't realized that this thread existed, but I was asking if Qtan could access full 104 set POM sideprint sets from keycool. I'm asking for black with side prints right now, but I'm not sure what else Keycool offers (their product page indicates that its possible to get other colours for side prints, but I think those are PBT). They're not that thick though, but I think they sound and feel great, even compared to the thick PBT on the Noppoo.
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: SeriouSSpotS on Tue, 21 May 2013, 06:25:05
Possibly around $40-$50 if ISO layout is available.
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: Surnia on Thu, 23 May 2013, 19:19:51
Qtan said that Keycool's not making keys for a few months... too busy =T
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: kmiller8 on Thu, 23 May 2013, 19:24:14
$50/ set would be pretty good depending on what they actually feel like.

If you could get some Das replica blanks (thick cherry profile). I would literally give you all of my money for two sets.
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 23 May 2013, 20:01:25
^^

He only has $20
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: oluf on Fri, 24 May 2013, 17:42:29
Side printed, $60
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: sherryton on Fri, 24 May 2013, 18:38:08
any chance these are Cherry POMs? :P
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: dante on Fri, 24 May 2013, 20:59:34
any chance these are Cherry POMs? :P

No.  I tried to convince one individual in China to import some but that didn't work out.  I'm hoping someone out there who is listening and has connections can try to get a factory to help a brother out.  I have no issues running a group buy for these, taking money, packing product; I'm unable to communicate with companies in China.
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: sherryton on Fri, 24 May 2013, 21:13:43
Let me see what I can do with some Cherry POMs.  I'll use the most minimum cost for a group buy.  I just want to try these out.
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: kmiller8 on Fri, 24 May 2013, 21:20:28
Let me see what I can do with some Cherry POMs.  I'll use the most minimum cost for a group buy.  I just want to try these out.

How I feel right now.

NSFW
More
(http://i.imgur.com/LIwgxNB.gif)
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: Surnia on Sat, 25 May 2013, 01:59:06
sideprintsideprintsideprint.....

how's the cherry texture vs Keycool?
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: F u r u y á on Sat, 25 May 2013, 02:44:06
Let me see what I can do with some Cherry POMs.  I'll use the most minimum cost for a group buy.  I just want to try these out.

Those will be side printed or blank?
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: Dreamre on Sat, 25 May 2013, 21:21:52
Font printed for $50!
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: dante on Sun, 26 May 2013, 09:29:24
Let me see what I can do with some Cherry POMs.  I'll use the most minimum cost for a group buy.  I just want to try these out.

Hopefully these can be blank?  Maybe I've turned into a bit of a snob but lasered keycaps SUCK.  DS/Dyesub/Blank-Otaku/Ninja Front print or NOTHING.
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: Surnia on Sun, 26 May 2013, 17:45:27
Let me see what I can do with some Cherry POMs.  I'll use the most minimum cost for a group buy.  I just want to try these out.

Hopefully these can be blank?  Maybe I've turned into a bit of a snob but lasered keycaps SUCK.  DS/Dyesub/Blank-Otaku/Ninja Front print or NOTHING.

Depends, Noppoo's lasering is quite nice, and tbh the lasering on the Dell boards we have at work are impressive... the keys are shining like mad, but the lasering is STILL holding up very well.
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: F u r u y á on Mon, 27 May 2013, 09:53:55
I prefer blank too.

BLANK POM PLEASE
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: Bratman on Wed, 05 June 2013, 16:39:48
What is POM? I have blank filco keycaps and might be interested in this group buy.
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 05 June 2013, 16:43:06
What is POM? I have blank filco keycaps and might be interested in this group buy.

Polyoxymethylene aka Delrin. It's a thermoplastic used in the manufacture of some keycaps.
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: Bratman on Wed, 05 June 2013, 16:56:18
That's a big word, is it better than PBT?
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: Surnia on Wed, 05 June 2013, 23:24:50
That's a big word, is it better than PBT?

PBT's pretty big too: polybutylene tetraphthalate.

Better is subjective. lower coefficient of friction so its an inherently more slippery plastic, but theoretically has better wear characteristics to PBT. Really depends if you like the slipperiness vs PBT, which is the big factor.
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: sherryton on Wed, 05 June 2013, 23:26:17
Have not gotten any words from the Cherry reps yet.
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: Bratman on Thu, 06 June 2013, 07:55:46
Hmmm I don't know if I like slippery or not, these Filco keycaps are nice though are they slippery?
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 09 June 2013, 02:39:35
Would POM keys feel similar to coated caps that Ducky Shine and CM Storm Trigger use?  Those have a silky slippery feel and are made of softer flexing plastic vs ABS Doubleshots I've tried.  A very soft and nice feel.  If that's what POM would be like, I wish I could get a set in some light color.
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: dante on Sun, 09 June 2013, 07:16:25
Would POM keys feel similar to coated caps that Ducky Shine and CM Storm Trigger use?  Those have a silky slippery feel and are made of softer flexing plastic vs ABS Doubleshots I've tried.  A very soft and nice feel.  If that's what POM would be like, I wish I could get a set in some light color.

They are slippery like that but with additional texture.

Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: kmiller8 on Tue, 11 June 2013, 19:45:07
So sherry, if you do get this, please, please, please get das SCOOOOOOOOOOOPS. None of that nipple crap.
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: dante on Tue, 11 June 2013, 19:49:18
I contacted a couple Cherry distributors and Cherry themselves and have been unsuccessful in getting these made.

MechanicalKeyboards.com can't get a hold of PLUM and I can't speak Chinese to contact Noppoo/Keycool.

Sherryton if you're looking for another hard to find and unique product with absolutely no competition for your empire this is it!
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: Bratman on Thu, 13 June 2013, 11:06:04
Well that sucks, I guess most people don't want blanks.
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: kmiller8 on Fri, 16 August 2013, 17:29:20
POM?
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: Surnia on Fri, 16 August 2013, 23:39:32
Side POM!!

contacted mechanicalkeyboards about last month, they're waiting on some arrivals from keycool to see if they get any POM sets in there.
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: jonathanyu on Fri, 16 August 2013, 23:46:59
um never try pom before. but, maybe 50-60?
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: concept73 on Thu, 05 September 2013, 09:50:29
all depending on price i would be interested :)
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: dante on Thu, 05 September 2013, 12:18:15
or not...  >:D :-\ :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: dante on Mon, 09 September 2013, 21:29:17
How do you like me now?
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: badboybry9000 on Mon, 09 September 2013, 21:43:39
Looks awesome! I think I'd also be willing to pay $50 to $60. I'd prefer blank but I'd get side printed if I really had to.
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: frogamic on Tue, 10 September 2013, 04:51:07
How do you like me now?

Those look nice, bet they set you back a pretty penny though? Saw some sets like that selling on aliexpress for ~$100
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 10 September 2013, 12:01:31
I would really like some blank (or front printed) cherry profile POM. Not sure what I'd pay, but finding das II's is near impossible nowadays and ordering a G80-3000 LPCXY (XX for iso) from the UK for 70 GBP would incur unnecessarily expensive shipping costs.
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: dante on Tue, 10 September 2013, 12:39:55
Soon™
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: TheSoulhunter on Wed, 11 September 2013, 15:10:24
I'd get 2 blank TKL sets if they are around 50 USD or less...
Btw, why not having thick black PBT caps? If the POMs are made where I think they are made the place should have the molds for it >.>
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: V1ral on Thu, 12 September 2013, 15:09:49
I'd be in for blank sets. Would also prefer to pay in the range of $50-60.
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: pixel5 on Thu, 12 September 2013, 15:24:51
Uh guys... http://www.banggood.com/POM-87-Set-Blank-Key-Caps-Black-Keycaps-For-Cherry-MX-Keyboard-p-84081.html
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: laden3 on Thu, 12 September 2013, 15:31:15
Uh guys... http://www.banggood.com/POM-87-Set-Blank-Key-Caps-Black-Keycaps-For-Cherry-MX-Keyboard-p-84081.html

Now, not buying them unless they cost less than $20 lol...
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: dante on Thu, 12 September 2013, 16:58:52
...
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: dante on Thu, 26 September 2013, 22:11:23
Things are progressing ... Hopefully within the month I will start a GB for these.  Target price around $22 (before shipping) a set for Cherry Profile 104 ANSI Blank Black POM only.

Price will be static and will require a MOQ of 200 sets.
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: Belfong on Thu, 26 September 2013, 23:01:58
I have Choc Mini and I kinda like POM, so I would like to join group buy but as I am new to KB modding, I wonder if I can use these in Razer BlackWidow? I know I will not see the backlight, doesn't matter to me. The other Cherry keyboard I am expecting to arrive is the Code TKL - will it work with Code too?
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: dante on Thu, 26 September 2013, 23:05:59
If your keyboard takes all Filco keycaps it will work.
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: Belfong on Thu, 26 September 2013, 23:29:17
I don't have the answer to that. I assume WASDKeyboards (for the Code) follow standards. I'm not sure if Razer do.
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: gigibecali on Fri, 27 September 2013, 03:39:40
I'd like to have a set like yours, dante.
Thick!
That's OEM profile, right?
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: dante on Fri, 27 September 2013, 07:33:33
I'd like to have a set like yours, dante.
Thick!
That's OEM profile, right?

Cherry profile
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: norbauer on Fri, 27 September 2013, 12:35:51
I am desperate for a set of blank POMs in black!! Yes, please! Seriously. Do this.

I have an awesome set of blank POM Jellies and love the feel, but would prefer to have something more understated. Anything other than the jellies are impossible to find from US vendors though.

Those blank blanks you posted look really thick too. Want.
Title: Re: [IC] What would you be willing to pay for blank or side print black POM keycaps?
Post by: dante on Fri, 27 September 2013, 18:12:13
GB LIVE!

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49081.0