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Title: [IC] Moogle Packs
Post by: MKULTRA on Fri, 19 April 2013, 23:20:55
I'm not really in the position to run a group buy, but lately I have been seeing the price of Cherry, Dolch, and WYSE moogles increasing exponentially in rarity in price.  Just sort of curious to see how many people would be interested in a modifier GB.  There hasn't been one in quite awhile and I think there would be plenty of interest if someone would want to take this on as a GB.
Title: Re: Moogle Packs
Post by: metalliqaz on Fri, 19 April 2013, 23:26:33
YES.
Title: Re: Moogle Packs
Post by: bazemk1979 on Fri, 19 April 2013, 23:32:43
would be nice if this GB is for black and beige Moogle
Title: Re: Moogle Packs
Post by: MKULTRA on Fri, 19 April 2013, 23:34:56
would be nice if this GB is for black and beige Moogle
Could do that aswell.  SkiData.
Title: Moogle Packs
Post by: Halverson on Fri, 19 April 2013, 23:36:42
I'd be in for a skidata moogle.
Title: Re: Moogle Packs
Post by: Michael on Fri, 19 April 2013, 23:44:26
SkeetData
Title: Moogle Packs
Post by: Halverson on Fri, 19 April 2013, 23:55:31
SkeetData

Skeet skeet skeet!
Title: Re: Moogle Packs
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 19 April 2013, 23:58:23
Miami Moogle anyone?
Title: Re: Moogle Packs
Post by: sleepy916 on Sat, 20 April 2013, 00:05:52
Yes, Dolch moogle, WYSE moogle.
Title: Re: Moogle Packs
Post by: Sai on Sat, 20 April 2013, 00:44:14
dolch moogle pls. even though i don't have dolch. :D
Title: Re: Moogle Packs
Post by: calavera on Sat, 20 April 2013, 00:48:26
You should just make a poll. Also, I'd be in for a dolch if the shifts are lower profile like that on an actual dolch board.
Title: Re: Moogle Packs
Post by: MKULTRA on Sat, 20 April 2013, 00:56:38
I'll make a poll tomorrow when I'm on an actual computer.  iPhone too stronk.
Title: Re: Moogle Packs
Post by: Findecanor on Sat, 20 April 2013, 10:33:22
I'd be in for a dolch if the shifts are lower profile like that on an actual dolch board.
Me too. Actually only in it for the right Shift key. I have 1.5 modifiers on my keyboard with Dolch caps.

I would also be interested in 1-unit keys to put in-between Control and Alt, if someone would do that. (Dolch Tsangan Kit. ;) ) and a Dolch Anti-Caps Lock kit.
Title: Re: Moogle Packs
Post by: samwisekoi on Sat, 20 April 2013, 10:48:12
WYSE moogle me, please!

 - Ron | samwisekoi
(http://www.samwisekoi.com/pixelart/Leo.png)
Title: Re: Moogle Packs
Post by: MKULTRA on Sat, 20 April 2013, 11:28:43
Sorry been busy all morning.  I'll do the poll right when I get home.  Gonna add:
White on Black Cherry
Black on Beige Cherry
Dolch
SkiData
WYSE

Any other ones?  I will add a tsangan option aswell.
Title: Re: Moogle Packs
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 20 April 2013, 12:09:04
If the current GMK buy goes ahead, there will be more sets like it again in other colorways. Might be better to wait a bit and NOT do these with SP as it will only ruin chances of getting the required MOQ with GMK.
Title: Re: Moogle Packs
Post by: MKULTRA on Sat, 20 April 2013, 12:24:11
If the current GMK buy goes ahead, there will be more sets like it again in other colorways. Might be better to wait a bit and NOT do these with SP as it will only ruin chances of getting the required MOQ with GMK.
Thats a big if.  And idk how easily we'd get the MOQ for all of those.  But I'll wait and see what happens.
Title: Re: Moogle Packs
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 20 April 2013, 12:47:31
I don't know. We have come pretty close on what many have told me is not a popular color... Sure we will have to see what happens but it was merely something I thought to mention. Of course I can't stop anyone, just I think more people really would rather have Cherry profile than SP DCS when it comes down to it, when matching up for complete sets it is better to get the real thing that a poor imitation.
Title: Re: Moogle Packs
Post by: Dubsgalore on Sat, 20 April 2013, 12:56:00
beige Moogle :D
Title: Re: Moogle Packs
Post by: MKULTRA on Sat, 20 April 2013, 12:58:54
I don't know. We have come pretty close on what many have told me is not a popular color... Sure we will have to see what happens but it was merely something I thought to mention. Of course I can't stop anyone, just I think more people really would rather have Cherry profile than SP DCS when it comes down to it, when matching up for complete sets it is better to get the real thing that a poor imitation.
I 100% agree with you.  I just think getting to 300 on all those may be tough.  Also who knows how cooperative GMK will be.  I'd still like to see atleast a WYSE moogle go through.
Title: Re: Moogle Packs
Post by: pasph on Sat, 20 April 2013, 13:01:57
Better waiting for GMK and the real cherry moogle
Title: Re: Moogle Packs
Post by: baldgye on Sat, 20 April 2013, 16:23:00
Miami Moogle anyone?
what would be the point ?
Title: Re: Moogle Packs
Post by: esoomenona on Sat, 20 April 2013, 16:24:29
Miami Moogle anyone?
what would be the point ?
Hush. Let's do it. I wouldn't need any other moogles. Black on beige? Miami moogle. I can see it now. Beautiful.
Title: Moogle Packs
Post by: Halverson on Sat, 20 April 2013, 16:29:59
We need better colours for a Miami moogle.
After the cherry legends are up and running. I would like to see if sp can get a hold of the same colours GMK uses. The teal n magenta. Or similar. And revive the **** out if Miami!
Title: Re: Moogle Packs
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 20 April 2013, 17:25:27
GMK or nothing for Miami®!
Title: Re: Moogle Packs
Post by: eth0s on Sat, 20 April 2013, 19:08:19
I think the Miami GB was just awkwardly timed.  It seemed like there were 10 other sales going on that were better, that I spent my money on.  Although now I can't remember what they were exactly.  But if somebody revived it now, maybe it would be more popular, or people would have more money to spend on it.  (IIRC the problem was people ordered and bailed out or something).

As for moogle kits, somebody is always looking for one.  Because nobody ever thinks they're going to need a moogle kit, until they need a moogle kit.
Title: Re: Moogle Packs
Post by: calavera on Sat, 20 April 2013, 20:16:30
Actually I would prefer a GMK cherry profile moogle or tsangan kit. I'm getting bored of SP's thin key caps.
Title: Re: Moogle Packs
Post by: MKULTRA on Sat, 20 April 2013, 21:51:21
Actually I would prefer a GMK cherry profile moogle or tsangan kit. I'm getting bored of SP's thin key caps.
There's no way we'd hit MOQ at GMK for both
Title: Re: [IC] Moogle Packs
Post by: hashbaz on Sun, 21 April 2013, 02:26:26
I still get pretty regular requests for moogle extras. :D  I'm surprised no one has run another buy yet, actually.  GMK would be ideal but the MOQ is a killer.
Title: Re: [IC] Moogle Packs
Post by: Sputnik on Sun, 21 April 2013, 13:29:02
In for GMK moogle, let's wait guys
Title: Re: [IC] Moogle Packs
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 21 April 2013, 13:47:08
Which is why I didn't offer 'moogles' and 'tsangans' buy simply modifier packs that have all of it and will continue to do it that way for exactly that reason. It's too hard to hit individual target moq when it is fragmented into more options.
Title: Re: [IC] Moogle Packs
Post by: sth on Sun, 21 April 2013, 14:35:31
i want GMK ANSI right shift in dolch colors
Title: Re: [IC] Moogle Packs
Post by: MKULTRA on Sun, 21 April 2013, 17:04:25
Which is why I didn't offer 'moogles' and 'tsangans' buy simply modifier packs that have all of it and will continue to do it that way for exactly that reason. It's too hard to hit individual target moq when it is fragmented into more options.
True.  Trust me, I would prefer GMK moogles.  Just worried about hitting MOQ for like 5 different types.  I'll wait and see what GMK has to say after the purple mods trial GB
Title: Re: [IC] Moogle Packs
Post by: longweight on Sun, 21 April 2013, 17:13:54
I want full modifier packs not just Moogle kits.
Title: Re: [IC] Moogle Packs
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 21 April 2013, 18:11:53
That's why we don't do five colorways at the same time. We will pick one or maybe two maximum and do that, then when finished move to next colorway. I feel it will be easier to meet moq when we are focused on one thing at a time and will keep it more simple and not overwhelming for both participants and organizing.
Title: Re: [IC] Moogle Packs
Post by: MKULTRA on Sun, 21 April 2013, 18:13:11
That's why we don't do 5 colorways at the same time. We will pick 1 and do that, then when finished move to next colorway. I feel it will be easier to meet moq when we are focused on one thing at a time and will keep it more simple and not overwhelming for both participants and organizing.
Don't you want to move on to full sets after this mod GB ends anyways? 

Or do you have a secret mastermind plan?
Title: Re: [IC] Moogle Packs
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 21 April 2013, 18:14:58
Both, in a way. I want to keep things modular for mix and match so there may be more variety. Full sets won't really be full set, one item. You will have to buy like three ot four components to make a full set, some will be available in different colorways and such is how I planned to do it.
Title: Re: Moogle Packs
Post by: LechnerDE on Tue, 23 April 2013, 04:45:37
Better waiting for GMK and the real cherry moogle

100% agree.

I'd be in for 2-3 sets.
Title: Re: [IC] Moogle Packs
Post by: Sputnik on Tue, 23 April 2013, 15:27:50
Both, in a way. I want to keep things modular for mix and match so there may be more variety. Full sets won't really be full set, one item. You will have to buy like three ot four components to make a full set, some will be available in different colorways and such is how I planned to do it.
10000000% agree, and now that we have GMK with us.... things look easyer....
Title: Re: [IC] Moogle Packs
Post by: pix3l_fodder on Wed, 24 April 2013, 12:51:10
Dolch!
Title: Re: [IC] Moogle Packs
Post by: Halvar on Sat, 04 May 2013, 16:46:29
Moogle kits are big here in Europe, I'd be in for some Ivan all-in-one modifier kits from GMK. think that the right way. And I think we'd actually stand a very good chance of meeting MOQs with classic Cherry sets like beige and black.
Title: Re: [IC] Moogle Packs
Post by: Dubsgalore on Sat, 04 May 2013, 16:50:17
black on beige moogle kit
Title: Re: [IC] Moogle Packs
Post by: L4yercake on Sat, 04 May 2013, 16:56:02
Could we ask for x300 MOQ overall for 5 different moogle kits.

Or am I doing it wrong?  :p
Title: Re: Moogle Packs
Post by: Elrick on Sat, 04 May 2013, 18:42:53
Better waiting for GMK and the real cherry moogle

100% agree.

I'd be in for 2-3 sets.

Totally agree.  Need some 'precise' Cherry Love here  :-* .
Title: Re: [IC] Moogle Packs
Post by: bazemk1979 on Sat, 04 May 2013, 18:57:24
we cant hit MOQ of 300 on Moogle with GMK, its practically impossible. SP should do the job, I'll be in for a beige and if price is right I might go for Dolch too if available.
Title: Re: [IC] Moogle Packs
Post by: HongKongFui on Wed, 08 May 2013, 03:23:55
Moogle kits are big here in Europe, I'd be in for some Ivan all-in-one modifier kits from GMK. think that the right way. And I think we'd actually stand a very good chance of meeting MOQs with classic Cherry sets like beige and black.

this^^
Title: Re: [IC] Moogle Packs
Post by: BimboBB on Wed, 08 May 2013, 04:30:19
we cant hit MOQ of 300 on Moogle with GMK, its practically impossible. SP should do the job, I'll be in for a beige and if price is right I might go for Dolch too if available.

We could hit a MOQ of 300 for purple(!) modifiers. Why do you think we cannot hit this MOQ for modifiers in classic(!) colors?
Title: Re: [IC] Moogle Packs
Post by: c137 on Wed, 08 May 2013, 05:17:04
Cherry black, definitly.
Title: Re: [IC] Moogle Packs
Post by: bazemk1979 on Wed, 08 May 2013, 06:43:50
we cant hit MOQ of 300 on Moogle with GMK, its practically impossible. SP should do the job, I'll be in for a beige and if price is right I might go for Dolch too if available.

We could hit a MOQ of 300 for purple(!) modifiers. Why do you think we cannot hit this MOQ for modifiers in classic(!) colors?
because I doubt there are 300 people on this forum with Cherry classic sets sitting in their shelves being unused because they don't have Moogle kit to make them compatible..... Think(!!!!!!!!!!)
Title: Re: [IC] Moogle Packs
Post by: BimboBB on Wed, 08 May 2013, 07:23:15
so recently 300 people here just completed their purple vintage sets, right!   :rolleyes:

but guess yr doubts are correct.....there should be more than 300 classic sets hanging around.  :)
Title: Re: [IC] Moogle Packs
Post by: bazemk1979 on Wed, 08 May 2013, 07:56:37
so recently 300 people here just completed their purple vintage sets, right!   :rolleyes:

but guess yr doubts are correct.....there should be more than 300 classic sets hanging around.  :)

i rather have gmk original moogle, but I sort of doubt we will hit moq... Wont hurt to try :)
Title: Re: [IC] Moogle Packs
Post by: novemer on Wed, 08 May 2013, 08:08:24
there are plenty of guys in germany who need a moogle set (myself included). I'm using an Ozone Strike with grey Cherry g80-1501 Double Shots... just couldn't swap the bottom line (control-fn-alt-space-alt-windows-contextmenu-control) :/ and i don't like the stupid OEM Profile (too high!), Cherry Profile is perfect...

Title: Re: [IC] Moogle Packs
Post by: BimboBB on Wed, 08 May 2013, 08:10:27
@bazemk

thats what i think as well. guess GMK doesnt have to order any extra plastic for classic colors. in case MOQ fails, that shouldnt be a big disaster for them.
Title: Re: [IC] Moogle Packs
Post by: Halvar on Wed, 08 May 2013, 13:25:14
because I doubt there are 300 people on this forum with Cherry classic sets sitting in their shelves being unused because they don't have Moogle kit to make them compatible..... Think(!!!!!!!!!!)
I THINK there are. Vintage winkeyless G81 or G80 keyboards in white/beige still show up on ebay.de every few days. Many people use them with either non-fitting lasered modifiers or imperfect earlier moogle sets.

 
Title: Re: [IC] Moogle Packs
Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 08 May 2013, 14:06:48
I THINK there are. Vintage winkeyless G81 or G80 keyboards in white/beige still show up on ebay.de every few days. Many people use them with either non-fitting lasered modifiers or imperfect earlier moogle sets.
 

Guilty!

That's why I loved the white on purple set to complete these sets :)
Title: Re: [IC] Moogle Packs
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 08 May 2013, 14:31:17
I am pretty sure white/black and black/beige will have not a lot of struggle. It may be awhile before I want to do those colorways as full sets but some modifier and language keys (more so for white/black) for really hard to find things may be possible sooner.
Title: Re: [IC] Moogle Packs
Post by: bazemk1979 on Wed, 08 May 2013, 15:40:23
I am pretty sure white/black and black/beige will have not a lot of struggle. It may be awhile before I want to do those colorways as full sets but some modifier and language keys (more so for white/black) for really hard to find things may be possible sooner.

Lysol if you run Moogle for both have them both be in one order, if you make them separate we wont hit the MOQ
Title: Re: [IC] Moogle Packs
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 08 May 2013, 15:54:24
Right, one at a time. Like I already said it will be easier to get anything done if there is only one choice for something per buy.
Title: Re: [IC] Moogle Packs
Post by: phinix on Sat, 11 May 2013, 12:33:28
black on beige moogle kit!:)
Title: Re: [IC] Moogle Packs
Post by: Halvar on Wed, 15 May 2013, 09:14:51
I am pretty sure white/black and black/beige will have not a lot of struggle. It may be awhile before I want to do those colorways as full sets but some modifier and language keys (more so for white/black) for really hard to find things may be possible sooner.

Lysol if you run Moogle for both have them both be in one order, if you make them separate we wont hit the MOQ

You mean white-on-black and black-on-grey together in one pack, but only the classic set of Moogle keys instead of a full modifier set?

For the classic colours, that might be a good idea, imo.  Moogle is what by far most people need, they maybe don't need or want to pay for full modifier packs.

What's the status on space keys btw? Can we get them from GMK?

It's a totally different thing for new colors of course. On those we need the full sets or full modifier sets that make the keys usable on (almost) any board.
Title: Re: [IC] Moogle Packs
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 15 May 2013, 09:52:08
While we could only do the 1.25 bottom row keys and 1.75 fulltouch caps lock, there is still issues with them matching the plastics color 100% at least with the beige/grey as there are at least 4 major shades that were used over the years with those. Might be better to offer modifiers pack like the purple to avoid matching problems? With white on black, it is no concern for matching color so probably just the fulltouch caps lock, 1.25 and 1.5 control and alt, 1.25 win and menu... and maybe just like one big Euro kit for assortment of harder to find alpha character keys plus ISO left shift and enter?
Title: Re: [IC] Moogle Packs
Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 15 May 2013, 11:39:25
While we could only do the 1.25 bottom row keys and 1.75 fulltouch caps lock, there is still issues with them matching the plastics color 100% at least with the beige/grey as there are at least 4 major shades that were used over the years with those. Might be better to offer modifiers pack like the purple to avoid matching problems? With white on black, it is no concern for matching color so probably just the fulltouch caps lock, 1.25 and 1.5 control and alt, 1.25 win and menu... and maybe just like one big Euro kit for assortment of harder to find alpha character keys plus ISO left shift and enter?

Yeah, I think we should only do complete sets like the white on purple set. Otherwise there will always be issues with colors not matching.

I am really looking forward to your next GMK group buy :)