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Title: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 April 2013, 12:53:24
 :D

The buzzcut897 thread is suspicious to me..

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42726.0

In the thread he claims to blah blah, profit, blah blah donation to GH..

Now.. what I read is, under my previous assumption which seems more likely to me now than ever is.. CC is killing the vehicle he put in place, thus making the originator look disconnected and legitimate.

So he builds the Rarer, and now that I've outed rarar as a potential affiliate or creation of CC,

CC closes that loop, by killing {online store killing not the movie killing} the imaginary rarer.
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: The_Beast on Tue, 23 April 2013, 12:56:29
NO ONE CARES!
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: MKULTRA on Tue, 23 April 2013, 12:56:42
You're annoying.
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: Tym on Tue, 23 April 2013, 12:57:03
(http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/grandma-cool-story-bro.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: funkymeeba on Tue, 23 April 2013, 12:57:17
I wish my imagination was as trippy as yours is.
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 April 2013, 12:58:37
LOL, I will refrain from pointing out holes in your hubris as I still need my account open

//not talking bout meeb
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 April 2013, 12:58:59
I wish my imagination was as trippy as yours is.

I watch many movies.
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: Alessandro on Tue, 23 April 2013, 13:00:19
Does tp actually ever talk about keyboards?
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 April 2013, 13:01:57
Does tp actually ever talk about keyboards?

visit the keyboard forum.. this is OT ?

UNLESS..\

Am I reading the OT wrong?  like was there an implicit rule that OT had to be Keyboard themed OT?

Because I get warnings for trolling, but I don't see how you can troll in OT, because it's OT..
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: Glod on Tue, 23 April 2013, 13:02:24
you wont let this go lol, I guess they make tinfoil hats that fit trolls

Does tp actually ever talk about keyboards?

he does surprisingly and fits in some constructive things and opinions once in awhile in between trolling
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: inteli722 on Tue, 23 April 2013, 13:03:06
Isn't there a rule saying that most users can't have multiple accounts?

If so, then rarar will likely get banned, maybe because he created a new account, maybe because someone is posing as him...

What that post said seems pretty must like what rarar said and what CC countered.
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: tjcaustin on Tue, 23 April 2013, 13:04:28
Isn't there a rule saying that most users can't have multiple accounts?

If so, then rarar will likely get banned, maybe because he created a new account, maybe because someone is posing as him...

What that post said seems pretty must like what rarar said and what CC countered.

In fact, there is a specific rule regarding secondary accounts in the ToS

Other than that, I'm bored with rarar talk.  It's like making fun of a clown.
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 23 April 2013, 13:05:26
(http://dontdrinkbeer.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/1595201-oh_look_its_this_thread_again_super.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: inteli722 on Tue, 23 April 2013, 13:07:12
Show Image
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+1

I'm tired of this conversation. rarar went through with something that multiple people warned him not to do (I included) and he got what was coming.

Can we please drop it?
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 April 2013, 13:10:12
I didn't actually read any of the rarar discussion threads except the headline of him selling his cap..

did anything else happen?
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: inteli722 on Tue, 23 April 2013, 13:13:10
I didn't actually read any of the rarar discussion threads except the headline of him selling his cap..

did anything else happen?

ClickClack offered him the Clacks he wanted for giving up the Friday. Rarar didn't take them, but instead tried to negotiate further. ClickClack took away the Mr. Friday, refunded rarar, and the user who wanted the Mr. Friday is getting it for free.
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 April 2013, 13:23:54
I didn't actually read any of the rarar discussion threads except the headline of him selling his cap..

did anything else happen?

ClickClack offered him the Clacks he wanted for giving up the Friday. Rarar didn't take them, but instead tried to negotiate further. ClickClack took away the Mr. Friday, refunded rarar, and the user who wanted the Mr. Friday is getting it for free.

negotiate what, the price?
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: Alessandro on Tue, 23 April 2013, 13:37:00
No, with what clacks he wanted I think.
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: inteli722 on Tue, 23 April 2013, 13:39:07
No, with what clacks he wanted I think.

No, we don't know what he was negotiating for. He was getting the 2 color clacks he wanted for the price of the Friday.
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 April 2013, 13:47:40
No, with what clacks he wanted I think.

No, we don't know what he was negotiating for. He was getting the 2 color clacks he wanted for the price of the Friday.

Ok so rarar wanted 2 different clacks, and CC was all like angry "no" i'm only selling the Friday?
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: SmallFry on Tue, 23 April 2013, 13:49:29
All of the info is on the threads, but rarar was offered two single color clacks for the one Mr. Friday. He denied this offer, went back on his word, and was trying to flip the cap before he received it. ClickClack (the member) came in, refunded rarar and all is well in the world.
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: Alessandro on Tue, 23 April 2013, 13:49:53
At that point CC knew that rarar was planning to just auction the Friday, so offered him 2 other clacks instead so that someone who actually wanted the Friday could get it.
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: ekw808 on Tue, 23 April 2013, 13:50:47
If we all stopped replying to his threads, he'd just be a crazy person talking to himself.
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: SmallFry on Tue, 23 April 2013, 13:51:42
Honestly, I don't mind him. Oh well.
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 April 2013, 13:52:34
At that point CC knew that rarar was planning to just auction the Friday, so offered him 2 other clacks instead so that someone who actually wanted the Friday could get it.

Did Rarar already pay for the "friday" and then CC was the "first" to go back on his word and offer a swap?

If that's the case.. I'd say CC was in the wrong.. he can't tell RARAR what to do with the cap that he's already bought..


What i'm saying is, WHO was it that first changed the agreement upon completion of payment.

From what Allesandro wrote, it seems CC was the one who pushed aside the "free market" that the rest of you seem to covet as the true determinant of "value'  :))
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 April 2013, 13:57:50
Honestly, I don't mind him. Oh well.

I think it's just a choice few guys' who are butthurt from losing arguments against me, like biniaris for example on slickdeals and on gh, and the rest of the piggy back animosity idk, other guys trying to get popular?
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: Tym on Tue, 23 April 2013, 13:59:26
At that point CC knew that rarar was planning to just auction the Friday, so offered him 2 other clacks instead so that someone who actually wanted the Friday could get it.

Did Rarar already pay for the "friday" and then CC was the "first" to go back on his word and offer a swap?

If that's the case.. I'd say CC was in the wrong.. he can't tell RARAR what to do with the cap that he's already bought..


What i'm saying is, WHO was it that first changed the agreement upon completion of payment.

From what Allesandro wrote, it seems CC was the one who pushed aside the "free market" that the rest of you seem to covet as the true determinant of "value'  :))

Right, i think you are wrong here; if you buy a gun the store tells you you can't shoot people with it and if you do they take it off you right?
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: Rendom on Tue, 23 April 2013, 14:01:52
Honestly, I don't mind him. Oh well.

I think it's just a choice few guys' who are butthurt from losing arguments against me, like biniaris for example on slickdeals and on gh, and the rest of the piggy back animosity idk, other guys trying to get popular?

Amen to that. Whenever I see a drama in GH, I see a lot of hyenas.
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: Alessandro on Tue, 23 April 2013, 14:02:20
I think that might be a little different Tym. You don't need a license to own CCs. ;)
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 April 2013, 14:03:39
At that point CC knew that rarar was planning to just auction the Friday, so offered him 2 other clacks instead so that someone who actually wanted the Friday could get it.

Did Rarar already pay for the "friday" and then CC was the "first" to go back on his word and offer a swap?

If that's the case.. I'd say CC was in the wrong.. he can't tell RARAR what to do with the cap that he's already bought..


What i'm saying is, WHO was it that first changed the agreement upon completion of payment.

From what Allesandro wrote, it seems CC was the one who pushed aside the "free market" that the rest of you seem to covet as the true determinant of "value'  :))

Right, i think you are wrong here; if you buy a gun the store tells you you can't shoot people with it and if you do they take it off you right?

I'd say you're taking a very corner analogy.. killing someone vs selling a keycap..

I'd have to agree that yeah by all means take the Gun away from RARAR if you knew he was going to Murder Tym, but if he wanted to sell you a keycap however rudely, that's not the same..
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 April 2013, 14:05:35
Honestly, I don't mind him. Oh well.

I think it's just a choice few guys' who are butthurt from losing arguments against me, like biniaris for example on slickdeals and on gh, and the rest of the piggy back animosity idk, other guys trying to get popular?

Amen to that. Whenever I see a drama in GH, I see a lot of hyenas.

What I don't understand is why this behavior which does occur in real life, translates to the "internet" because there are "No consequences here"   what is their "objective"

You can't talk someone to death online... so any "insults" one may fling is mostly empty...

Please don't corner case this again, with that little girl who committed suicide over facebook
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: Glod on Tue, 23 April 2013, 14:06:11
not sure who follows us political news but its kind of like when mass shooting victim rep. Gabby Giffords' astronaut husband bought an AR-15 from a gun store and while he was waiting for it to come in stock he was all over the news saying that he was going to buy this gun and give it to a friend to make a background check/gun registration argument. the gun store caught wind of this political stunt and sent him a refund with a letter politely telling him to go **** himself. I respect Mark Kelly but he was a total **** to go all over the news for this stunt.

Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 April 2013, 14:07:20
not sure who follows us political news but its kind of like when mass shooting victim rep. Gabby Giffords' astronaut husband bought an AR-15 from a gun store and while he was waiting for it to come in stock he was all over the news saying that he was going to buy this gun and give it to a friend to make a background check/gun registration argument. the gun store caught wind of this political stunt and sent him a refund with a letter politely telling him to go **** himself. I respect Mark Kelly but he was a total **** to go all over the news for this stunt.



Again... plastic keycap... Not a GUN...  and RARAR wasn't going to choke anyone with it.
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: Lu_e on Tue, 23 April 2013, 14:18:13
You need a time-out.

Someone please give it to him?
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 April 2013, 14:23:53
You need a time-out.

Someone please give it to him?

are you a hyena.. LOL :D

read some of ur posts, pretty bland guy.. glad you're getting into some flavor..
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: Lu_e on Tue, 23 April 2013, 14:24:30
No im a humanoid.

You're just reminding me of ripster with all your nonsense postings. Although slightly less annoying.
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: mmmty on Tue, 23 April 2013, 14:28:21
tp4 is worse rarar
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 April 2013, 14:29:59
No im a humanoid.

You're just reminding me of ripster with all your nonsense postings. Although slightly less annoying.

have we talked before? and come into disagreement?

If not, then why are you here, 1, not posting about the conspiracy which is the main topic, and 2, not talking about the secondary topic, gun vs CC.

No, you're here to talk about ME....  what is that if not piggy backing hyena-esq popularity seeking..

There's really no Pack here you could hope to belong to though.. :D
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: Lu_e on Tue, 23 April 2013, 14:35:21
YOU are the conspiracy. I'm just finally letting you know how I feel.

I'm here to tell you how annoying you are, you say so much bs (like ripster) its just all starting to be ignored.

Come to think of it, im gonna go check the user cp for an ignore function. (havent done that since ripster was around).
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 April 2013, 14:37:01
YOU are the conspiracy. I'm just finally letting you know how I feel.

I'm here to tell you how annoying you are, you say so much bs (like ripster) its just all starting to be ignored.

Come to think of it, im gonna go check the user cp for an ignore function. (havent done that since ripster was around).

IDK why you haven't done that, and why most of the butthurt kids haven't done that.. if you don't like what I say.. then by all means use the button...

I didn't make you read this... or forced you to comment... You chose to.. :D
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: inteli722 on Tue, 23 April 2013, 15:20:54
At that point CC knew that rarar was planning to just auction the Friday, so offered him 2 other clacks instead so that someone who actually wanted the Friday could get it.

Did Rarar already pay for the "friday" and then CC was the "first" to go back on his word and offer a swap?

If that's the case.. I'd say CC was in the wrong.. he can't tell RARAR what to do with the cap that he's already bought..


What i'm saying is, WHO was it that first changed the agreement upon completion of payment.

From what Allesandro wrote, it seems CC was the one who pushed aside the "free market" that the rest of you seem to covet as the true determinant of "value'  :))

ClickClack, after knowing that rarar was going to auction it off [citation needed] gave rarar a deal. rarar was on the lookout for 2 CCs: a Blue and a White skull see his sale thread for details. ClickClack offered to give rarar those 2 clacks if rarar gave up his claim to the Mr. Friday so someone else could have it. No extra money, just a 2:1 trade. rarar tried to negotiate further (My best guess is for more Clacks), so ClickClack closed negotiations, took the Mr. Friday, and gave it to the person who wanted it for free, not giving rarar anything except his money back.

ClickClack wasn't telling rarar what to do. He was giving rarar an option that would give rarar what he wanted, but couldn't necessarily have.

TL;DR: ClickClack changed the agreement first with a presumably fair trade, but rarar was greedy, and ended up with a refund alongside no Clacks.
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: Alessandro on Tue, 23 April 2013, 15:23:50
Ah, ok. I've been out of the loop for a while. :D
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 April 2013, 15:30:06
At that point CC knew that rarar was planning to just auction the Friday, so offered him 2 other clacks instead so that someone who actually wanted the Friday could get it.

Did Rarar already pay for the "friday" and then CC was the "first" to go back on his word and offer a swap?

If that's the case.. I'd say CC was in the wrong.. he can't tell RARAR what to do with the cap that he's already bought..


What i'm saying is, WHO was it that first changed the agreement upon completion of payment.

From what Allesandro wrote, it seems CC was the one who pushed aside the "free market" that the rest of you seem to covet as the true determinant of "value'  :))

ClickClack, after knowing that rarar was going to auction it off [citation needed] gave rarar a deal. rarar was on the lookout for 2 CCs: a Blue and a White skull see his sale thread for details. ClickClack offered to give rarar those 2 clacks if rarar gave up his claim to the Mr. Friday so someone else could have it. No extra money, just a 2:1 trade. rarar tried to negotiate further (My best guess is for more Clacks), so ClickClack closed negotiations, took the Mr. Friday, and gave it to the person who wanted it for free, not giving rarar anything except his money back.

ClickClack wasn't telling rarar what to do. He was giving rarar an option that would give rarar what he wanted, but couldn't necessarily have.

TL;DR: ClickClack changed the agreement first with a presumably fair trade, but rarar was greedy, and ended up with a refund alongside no Clacks.

Hmm.... I don't disagree that Rarar was greedy, but they entered into "renegotiation" so after that "fails"  Clack is still responsible for holding up the Original agreement which was Mr. Friday for the price already paid..

CC may not have directly "--told--" Rarar what to do, but that's "exactly" what he's "--done--"..

Because as soon as the money transfers hands.. that means Rarar owns that key, doesn't matter who has the physical object at the time..

CC is still the one who first breached the original agreement...  Unless there was a specific clause some where stating that the CC cannot be sold...  was there such clause PRIOR to the money changing hands..?


Point is, if Rarar took this to small claims court, he would win.

at the very least, I think CC should still give a Mr.friday key to rarar... how hard is it to make 2 keys.. and he probably has at least 2 of them..

So what CC did do, is out of "emotional-response" decided to not hold up to the original bargain.. 

I only see CC at fault for the deal..

Now.. does that make the emotional response so wrong? was Rarar somewhat responsible for himself not getting the key... HARD TO SAY..

but CC broke the first rule business wise.
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: Alessandro on Tue, 23 April 2013, 15:32:16
Hmm, good point Tp. As much as the community reasons so, is that a legitimate reason to reverse the transaction?
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: mmmty on Tue, 23 April 2013, 15:33:06
tp4 is worse than rarar
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 April 2013, 15:34:06
tp4 is worse than rarar

mmmty stop trolling, go home.

that is to say, ur skills are no match for my eloquence...  :p.

jkjk, feel free to say something...
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: inteli722 on Tue, 23 April 2013, 15:35:08
tp4 is worse than rarar

I hate threadcrapping. We're having an actual conversation here.
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 April 2013, 15:35:55
Hmm, good point Tp. As much as the community reasons so, is that a legitimate reason to reverse the transaction?

Unless Rarar was going to kill somebody with his keycap,,  CC has no right to cancel the original contract, because Rarar already paid.

CC should do the right thing and just send rarar a keycap.. it's keycap vs his pride.. I take back what I said about CC not being an artist, only artists would make this type of poor business decision, maybe he's not the evil genius I thought him to be..

CC, I am downgrading you from evil geniuses I respect.
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: mmmty on Tue, 23 April 2013, 15:39:20
tp4 is worse than rarar

mmmty stop trolling, go home.

that is to say, ur skills are no match for my eloquence...  :p.

jkjk, feel free to say something...

Sorry, I tried to Modify but it added a new post instead.

back to work...
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: AriesX on Tue, 23 April 2013, 16:20:43
Hmm, good point Tp. As much as the community reasons so, is that a legitimate reason to reverse the transaction?

Unless Rarar was going to kill somebody with his keycap,,  CC has no right to cancel the original contract, because Rarar already paid.

CC should do the right thing and just send rarar a keycap.. it's keycap vs his pride.. I take back what I said about CC not being an artist, only artists would make this type of poor business decision, maybe he's not the evil genius I thought him to be..

CC, I am downgrading you from evil geniuses I respect.


contract? theres no contract its just a transaction that can be cancelled at any time

its like you never heard of refusal to sell
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 April 2013, 16:31:03
Hmm, good point Tp. As much as the community reasons so, is that a legitimate reason to reverse the transaction?

Unless Rarar was going to kill somebody with his keycap,,  CC has no right to cancel the original contract, because Rarar already paid.

CC should do the right thing and just send rarar a keycap.. it's keycap vs his pride.. I take back what I said about CC not being an artist, only artists would make this type of poor business decision, maybe he's not the evil genius I thought him to be..

CC, I am downgrading you from evil geniuses I respect.


contract? theres no contract its just a transaction that can be cancelled at any time

its like you never heard of refusal to sell

No man, once you pay, there's no going back UNLESS there was a legitimate reason the SELLER could not DELIVER.

as in, if the cap was destroyed somehow (by accident), or was lost prior to delivery..  since this was not the case here, and the cap was given to someone else... it was intact and CC is not right to give away what does not BELONG to him.


Rarar paid what was agreed upon. the money changed hands..  the contract is not only for the object itself but also it's delivery, i'd assume delivery cost was part of the transaction..

Rarar has every right to get what he paid for.. 

the world could not operate if it behaved like YOU described.


what i'm saying is POSSESSION is not OWNERSHIP..

just because CC possessed the cap prior to it's delivery to RARAR, doesn't mean RARAR didn't already own the cap.. which after having paid, RARAR did own the cap.

CC is in the wrong here, because he messed with something that was OWNED by someone else... because he SOLD IT..
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 April 2013, 16:40:25
ALSO... CC could've gotten away with this if he straight lied, which I think he should've, and said, a cat ate the keycap..

Because then Legally, he could refund rarar the money..

But he did not do that... he chose to stupidly say, no I"M A HERO, gonna give the cap to someone more deserving..

When that cap wasn't his any longer -to give- ..  so we know the cap wasn't lost, and was redirected without consent of its owner, which is RARAR


Aries, it's not REFUSAL to SELL, if it's already been SOLD.... RARAR had already paid...

Ownership has been transferred, the only thing that hasn't happened yet is [delivery] separate from ownership..


I know casual deals like this may lump these things together, and not look the other way, because there's so little money involved, but we have to be VERY SPECIFIC here, if we are to determine who's responsible for what..
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: orlando on Tue, 23 April 2013, 16:44:23
In the response clickclack posted to RARAR (in which he announced the order cancelation) he clearly stated that RARAR did not submit a complete payment. That alone is enough to terminate the agreement and the sale.
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 April 2013, 16:45:38
In the response clickclack posted to RARAR (in which he announced the order cancelation) he clearly stated that RARAR did not submit a complete payment. That alone is enough to terminate the agreement and the sale.

well, ok.. I agree, if that's the case.. then yes the original agreement can be terminate..

Although.. THIS part of the story also needs to be checked out.

Could you link to the post about CC and Rarar's incomplete payment

How did CC refund RARAR if RARAR didn't pay anything..

Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: orlando on Tue, 23 April 2013, 16:53:24
In the response clickclack posted to RARAR (in which he announced the order cancelation) he clearly stated that RARAR did not submit a complete payment. That alone is enough to terminate the agreement and the sale.

well, ok.. I agree, if that's the case.. then yes the original agreement can be terminate..

Although.. THIS part of the story also needs to be checked out.

Could you link to the post about CC and Rarar's incomplete payment

How did CC refund RARAR if RARAR didn't pay anything..
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41616.msg863015#msg863015

I think he paid something, just not the full amount. Any sale agreement can be broken if the amount is not paid in full, unless something in the agreement allows for partial payments.
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 April 2013, 17:02:56
In the response clickclack posted to RARAR (in which he announced the order cancelation) he clearly stated that RARAR did not submit a complete payment. That alone is enough to terminate the agreement and the sale.

well, ok.. I agree, if that's the case.. then yes the original agreement can be terminate..

Although.. THIS part of the story also needs to be checked out.

Could you link to the post about CC and Rarar's incomplete payment

How did CC refund RARAR if RARAR didn't pay anything..
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41616.msg863015#msg863015

I think he paid something, just not the full amount. Any sale agreement can be broken if the amount is not paid in full, unless something in the agreement allows for partial payments.

Would anyone NOT pay $30 to the fullest?  This i find doubtful.. it's $30.. not likely someone would need a payment plan for that much.

But yea,, you're right, if CC didn't get the full $30, then he has the ability to issue refund, on the grounds that it was NOT fully paid for, and he decided to choose other prospects.

Even in this situation though, he can't give "you can't sell my cap for $250" as a reason for refund.
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: tjcaustin on Tue, 23 April 2013, 17:08:24
If he tried to "renegotiate the deal" as has been stated by sending him less than the full amount, that would make sense. 
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 April 2013, 17:09:29
If he tried to "renegotiate the deal" as has been stated by sending him less than the full amount, that would make sense. 

yea, if that happens, then the refund is justifiable.
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: tp4tissue on Tue, 23 April 2013, 17:12:57
If he tried to "renegotiate the deal" as has been stated by sending him less than the full amount, that would make sense. 

but. he was renegotiating for "more clacks right" would he send 'less" money when doing that?
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: inteli722 on Tue, 23 April 2013, 17:15:20
If he tried to "renegotiate the deal" as has been stated by sending him less than the full amount, that would make sense. 

but. he was renegotiating for "more clacks right" would he send 'less" money when doing that?

CC never said how he was renegotiating. My guess was more clacks.
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: tjcaustin on Tue, 23 April 2013, 17:15:47
If he couldn't get more clacks for the same money, why not send less money?
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: clickclack on Tue, 23 April 2013, 23:50:49
HOW TO SKOOL TWO FOOLS

by C.C.

In this first part I will demonstrate how ignorance and self-righteousness don't mix well.

*ahem*

Hi tp4tissue,

You seemed so excited to get your jabs in that you didn't notice what you were jabbing.
Since you were too lazy to get the story straight but so eager to listen to yourself type, I thought I would save you further embarrassment.

rarararrr's order was incomplete. This means (pssst. the part you should listen closely to) he did not pay the full amount. Yes, the order was for only $35 but when you're not an adult, that could be your entire allowance.

So essentially he sold the item for $250 before he paid me in full. And what was with selling it for $250 to a friend? Gee, some friend. Hey rararar, you can still donate to gh (we know you have most of $35), you don't need your friends to do it for you.

I made a proposition based on two keys I thought rarararrar was genuinely looking for. In exchange I would then sell the Mr. Friday to someone who also got dibs and who also was interested in the key (but fo reeelz).

He asked repeatedly who the person was. However, they wanted to remain anonymous (can't imagine why).
He wanted to know if it was someone he liked or not and that could determine the outcome.
I rescinded my offer because this was clearly a waste of time.

When he sold the key and CRAPPED on the community, he still had not paid in full. It's clear he was not serious about the transaction, therefore his incomplete order was refunded.

It's pretty simple, even a tp4tissue could understand it.


Oh yeah, for love or for money?
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Title: Re: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: SmallFry on Tue, 23 April 2013, 23:57:14
Oh yeah, for love or for money?
(Attachment Link)
$250 LOL LOL LOL
Title: Re: Re: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: SmallFry on Tue, 23 April 2013, 23:58:09
Bah, delete.
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: MKULTRA on Wed, 24 April 2013, 00:00:31
He's *****ing and moaning on reddit now.  Yawn.
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: Glod on Wed, 24 April 2013, 00:59:32
He's *****ing and moaning on reddit now.  Yawn.

oh god i just vomited almost, i told myself not to read things on /r/MechanicalKeyboards ever again but then i ended up reading this mess.

"its a ****ing lynch mob"
"rotten way the moderators censored"
"DOWN WITH GEEKWHACK!!!!! :)"


You are entitled to opinions on value of clacks but related to this issue look at the post clickclack references for rarar, how can ANYONE find that behavior acceptable? how is moderators taking action against such behavior uncool or be called censorship I applaud clickclack for handling it the way he did and the mod(s). Not sucking up, i would have no gain in doing so, its just common sense.

god i kept reading more on there since it has been awhile and i think i did vomit a little, I see a lot of geek hack members there and i just don't see the appeal--the place is a wreck. Tons of racism and childish behavior.
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: MKULTRA on Wed, 24 April 2013, 01:05:13
He's *****ing and moaning on reddit now.  Yawn.

oh god i just vomited almost, i told myself not to read things on /r/MechanicalKeyboards ever again but then i ended up reading this mess.

"its a ****ing lynch mob"
"rotten way the moderators censored"
"DOWN WITH GEEKWHACK!!!!! :)"


You are entitled to opinions on value of clacks but related to this issue look at the post clickclack references for rarar, how can ANYONE find that behavior acceptable? how is moderators taking action against such behavior uncool or be called censorship I applaud clickclack for handling it the way he did and the mod(s). Not sucking up, i would have no gain in doing so, its just common sense.

god i kept reading more on there since it has been awhile and i think i did vomit a little, I see a lot of geek hack members there and i just don't see the appeal--the place is a wreck. Tons of racism and childish behavior.
I have an undercover name on reddit, don't use MKULTRA.  I can spy on them np we got dis.
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: Glod on Wed, 24 April 2013, 01:06:31
He's *****ing and moaning on reddit now.  Yawn.

oh god i just vomited almost, i told myself not to read things on /r/MechanicalKeyboards ever again but then i ended up reading this mess.

"its a ****ing lynch mob"
"rotten way the moderators censored"
"DOWN WITH GEEKWHACK!!!!! :)"


You are entitled to opinions on value of clacks but related to this issue look at the post clickclack references for rarar, how can ANYONE find that behavior acceptable? how is moderators taking action against such behavior uncool or be called censorship I applaud clickclack for handling it the way he did and the mod(s). Not sucking up, i would have no gain in doing so, its just common sense.

god i kept reading more on there since it has been awhile and i think i did vomit a little, I see a lot of geek hack members there and i just don't see the appeal--the place is a wreck. Tons of racism and childish behavior.
I have an undercover name on reddit, don't use MKULTRA.  I can spy on them np we got dis.

lol geekhack intelligence
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: MKULTRA on Wed, 24 April 2013, 01:08:23
He's *****ing and moaning on reddit now.  Yawn.

oh god i just vomited almost, i told myself not to read things on /r/MechanicalKeyboards ever again but then i ended up reading this mess.

"its a ****ing lynch mob"
"rotten way the moderators censored"
"DOWN WITH GEEKWHACK!!!!! :)"


You are entitled to opinions on value of clacks but related to this issue look at the post clickclack references for rarar, how can ANYONE find that behavior acceptable? how is moderators taking action against such behavior uncool or be called censorship I applaud clickclack for handling it the way he did and the mod(s). Not sucking up, i would have no gain in doing so, its just common sense.

god i kept reading more on there since it has been awhile and i think i did vomit a little, I see a lot of geek hack members there and i just don't see the appeal--the place is a wreck. Tons of racism and childish behavior.
I have an undercover name on reddit, don't use MKULTRA.  I can spy on them np we got dis.
lol geekhack intelligence

Yeah I'm pretty much the FBI right?
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: tjcaustin on Wed, 24 April 2013, 01:10:59
The word "joke" came to mind when I read that.  The reddit thread, that is.
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: baldgye on Wed, 24 April 2013, 01:26:24
Why the **** is this still going on? Can't someone just ban t4p and let clack and everyone else move on with there lives?
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: bavman on Wed, 24 April 2013, 01:39:46
I have a question for you CC.
I've been reading around on this thread and the other one here in OT, but I'm not sure if you answered this elsewhere. You said you refunded rarararraarr because he didn't pay you in full, but if he would have promptly would you still let him have the key knowing full well what he intended to do with it? I'm not an artist or anything like that so I don't know how you feel about people reselling your pieces. In the case or rarar, was this upsetting at all? I think if I was in your shoes I'd probably see it as disrespectful that someone would buy it with the sole intention of flipping it for a $200 profit.
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 24 April 2013, 02:16:55
Ok, so clack, He didn't give you $35, he only gave you $30?

and then you refunded?

I never took a JAB at anyone, I just read something xxxxxx bout rarar, and thought he was in a conspiracy with you.

Not once did I say anything directly insulting, the fact that you took it that way shows your narrow-mindedness.  this whole time I was in agreement that if rarar didn't pay in full, then you had the ability to terminate the contract..  BUT NOT ON THE REASON YOU DID IT FOR..

RARAR, might've made a bad example for flipping the cap so quickly, but YOU committed bad business practice of changing contract terms out of emotion.

WHAT YOU did was equally bad as what RARAR did.

You must've BOTH agreed that he'd pay you "MOST" of the money up front, and when he got his allowance, he'd pay you the last 5 dollars..

This must've been what happened, otherwise he'd have no reason to be upset if the cap was out of his grasp in the first place.

What I'm saying is, You sold him the dibs part, then suddenly you took it away because you're butthurt about the poor kid flipping a cap.. why is that? I'll probably never understand and you don't have an excuse for.

 I don't care if he wanted your cap or not.. and guess what MOST of your buyers don't want your cap, there just happens to be idiots that WOULD pay $250s for them.


sigh.... disappoint  >:D
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: MKULTRA on Wed, 24 April 2013, 05:52:10
This is getting old.
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: Alessandro on Wed, 24 April 2013, 08:02:45
This is getting old.
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: Michael on Wed, 24 April 2013, 09:44:09
This is getting old.


(http://i.imgur.com/BEWQgd9.gif)
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: Wildcard on Wed, 24 April 2013, 10:01:15
This is getting old.

Agreed, I also just reported the duplicate account. It's obvious if you're just planning on flipping a Mr. Friday you really don't have the same feelings towards clacks that some of us others do. I would have been thrilled just to have had this opportunity. I've missed out on a few sales just to have those people flip them later. But as sad and annoying as that is, it just happens.

Alas, what's done is done.

Fin.
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: inlikeflynn on Wed, 24 April 2013, 10:03:00
This is getting old.


(http://i.imgur.com/BEWQgd9.gif) (http://i.imgur.com/BEWQgd9.gif)

I cannot stop watching this gif  :o
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: Alessandro on Wed, 24 April 2013, 10:10:05
That. Where did it come from!? :D
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 24 April 2013, 13:22:52
This is getting old.


(http://i.imgur.com/BEWQgd9.gif) (http://i.imgur.com/BEWQgd9.gif)

I cannot stop watching this gif  :o

http://theberry.com/category/random/berry-love/

it looks like a blog, but no one seems to be reading it?
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: missalaire on Thu, 25 April 2013, 01:53:21
HOW TO SKOOL TWO FOOLS

by C.C.

In this first part I will demonstrate how ignorance and self-righteousness don't mix well.

*ahem*

Hi tp4tissue,

You seemed so excited to get your jabs in that you didn't notice what you were jabbing.
Since you were too lazy to get the story straight but so eager to listen to yourself type, I thought I would save you further embarrassment.

rarararrr's order was incomplete. This means (pssst. the part you should listen closely to) he did not pay the full amount. Yes, the order was for only $35 but when you're not an adult, that could be your entire allowance.

So essentially he sold the item for $250 before he paid me in full. And what was with selling it for $250 to a friend? Gee, some friend. Hey rararar, you can still donate to gh (we know you have most of $35), you don't need your friends to do it for you.

I made a proposition based on two keys I thought rarararrar was genuinely looking for. In exchange I would then sell the Mr. Friday to someone who also got dibs and who also was interested in the key (but fo reeelz).

He asked repeatedly who the person was. However, they wanted to remain anonymous (can't imagine why).
He wanted to know if it was someone he liked or not and that could determine the outcome.
I rescinded my offer because this was clearly a waste of time.

When he sold the key and CRAPPED on the community, he still had not paid in full. It's clear he was not serious about the transaction, therefore his incomplete order was refunded.

It's pretty simple, even a tp4tissue could understand it.


Oh yeah, for love or for money?
(Attachment Link)

10/10, would read again.
Title: Re: Official Clack Trilogy [no knockoffs]
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 25 April 2013, 02:10:26
I don't know why people take key caps so seriously, crap on the community? Rarar is just a kid trying to up his allowance.. how bad could this person be.. Clack made decisions that were just as rash and impulsive, hardly more grown up than the person he deemed punishable.

What possible lesson could this have taught him, that the internet is full of jerks.. that it's full of gated communities of elitists.

The internet is not those things..

you leave that bickering stuff at 4chan..