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Title: SP or Cherry Double Shot? UPDATE: Tai Hao Double Shot $8.00 per 104 key?!?!?!?!
Post by: Hyde on Sat, 27 April 2013, 02:48:30
==============================  UPDATE  2  ==============================

Group buy up !!!  Price is $8.00 per set (104 keys)  :D

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43745.0

==============================  UPDATE  ==============================

So I've finally got my hands on Cherry double shot but realizing that I'm not too fond of Cherry profile and scooped F and J.

Luckily I heard there is a third source of double shots which is from Tai Hai from Taiwan.  They make thick ABS double shot with OEM height.  They have a MOQ of 500 units but they sell at $6.50 USD per set (104 keys).

Only drawback is that they won't have bottom row that fits the typical Filco layout.

Personally I've been too busy working lately so I won't be able to run the group buy for it.  If anyone's willing to step up and run it then it would be great  :D

Company Website (http://www.tai-hao.com/)

Examples of their keycaps. (http://deskthority.net/photos-videos-f8/taiwan-tai-hao-doubleshots-t5028.html)

==============================  ORIGINAL POST  ==============================

Lol before you guys jump to conclusion (I know most will just say Cherry) I'd like explain the situation a bit.

I've tried imsto's PBT recently and I realize a few things, that I prefer ABS over PBT better and I also prefer OEM profile over Cherry profile.  But I'll also agree thick does feel more solid.

Color wise ideally I want something like CCnB.  So in a perfect world I'd want thick OEM ABS double shot with CCnB theme.

But since such keycap doesn't exist so I'm down to a few options:

1. SP profile (closer to OEM height) thin double shot, might have to wait for group buy for it.

OR

2. Cherry profile thick double shot, Olivetti theme from Sherryton (he seemed to came back, *cross fingers*).

OR

3. Wait for IvanIvanovich to run a GMK full set buy and hopefully CCnB theme will be an option.

What do you guys think?  Does SP's thin ABS feel a lot different than thick ABS?

This and too bad Ducky is doing thick OEM height PBT, if only it was ABS.

Lol the dillema....  :P
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: Jocelyn on Sat, 27 April 2013, 03:08:23
(I know most will just say Cherry)
Cherry  :p

3. Wait for IvanIvanovich to run a GMK full set buy and hopefully CCnB theme will be an option.

This^ Unless people start reporting they're getting their stuff from Originative :)

Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: Moosecraft on Sat, 27 April 2013, 05:15:11
I would agree with Jocelyn and it's what im going to do aswell.
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: The_Beast on Sat, 27 April 2013, 05:31:00
I love my cherry DS way more than any of my SP sets. I love the look of most of the SP sets that have come out/are coming out, but when it comes to typing, I'd take an ugly cherry set everyday.
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: esoomenona on Sat, 27 April 2013, 07:34:29
Whether you choose Cherry or SP, there was a mod posted here by lunartuna which actually raises the height of the caps to roughly OEM height. Maybe you might wish to look into that.
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: ideus on Sat, 27 April 2013, 07:48:21

I have the same feeling here, and I would wait for GMK group buys to get new sets. Higher height? Install a ring underneath, as esoomenona referred.

I love my cherry DS way more than any of my SP sets. I love the look of most of the SP sets that have come out/are coming out, but when it comes to typing, I'd take an ugly cherry set everyday.
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 27 April 2013, 07:52:07
Neither  :eek:. You should try to find some set made by Tai-Hao. They are only ones that make OEM, they are thicker like Cherry. Even though I strongly dislike OEM high and insist that Cherry profile should be only that exists, some people don't share my opinion.
(http://p.globalsources.com/IMAGES/PDT/B1059400945/Keycaps.jpg)

They also make some funny really short and flat rubber doubleshots...
I know quite a few that would like OEM doubleshots and Tai-Hao (http://www.tai-hao.com/) could be the answer, someone should do some work to get in touch with them and try and make a groupbuy for them or something.
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: ideus on Sat, 27 April 2013, 08:15:14

If you open a group buy for the flats I would love to try them  :) .

Neither  :o . You should try to find some set made by Tai-Hao. They are only ones that make OEM, they are thicker like Cherry. Even though I strongly dislike OEM high and insist that Cherry profile should be only that exists, some people don't share my opinion.
Show Image
(http://p.globalsources.com/IMAGES/PDT/B1059400945/Keycaps.jpg)


They also make some funny really short and flat rubber doubleshots...
I know quite a few that would like OEM doubleshots and Tai-Hao (http://www.tai-hao.com/) could be the answer, someone should do some work to get in touch with them and try and make a groupbuy for them or something.
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 27 April 2013, 08:16:10
I am far too busy with other stuff, it can be someone else project. I only came in here to tell it was another choice.
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: Hyde on Sun, 28 April 2013, 22:29:27
Neither  :eek:. You should try to find some set made by Tai-Hao. They are only ones that make OEM, they are thicker like Cherry. Even though I strongly dislike OEM high and insist that Cherry profile should be only that exists, some people don't share my opinion.
Show Image
(http://p.globalsources.com/IMAGES/PDT/B1059400945/Keycaps.jpg)


They also make some funny really short and flat rubber doubleshots...
I know quite a few that would like OEM doubleshots and Tai-Hao (http://www.tai-hao.com/) could be the answer, someone should do some work to get in touch with them and try and make a groupbuy for them or something.

Ohhhhh thanks IvanIvanovich !!!

Maybe I'll send them an e-mail and see what they say.  Though I don't think I'm experienced enough to run group buy yet but I guess I'll find out what the deal is first  :P

OEM profile thick ABS, that sounds sexy lol.
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Mon, 29 April 2013, 05:16:36
Cherry owns SP in feel, thickness, and seams. SP wins when it comes to customizations of color and legends. Although GMK is capable of matching SP in this aspect, they require a ridiculous MOQ.
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 29 April 2013, 09:11:53
One becomes experience for groupbuy after they run one, never before ;)
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: Hyde on Mon, 29 April 2013, 23:02:42
Damn you IvanIvanovich making me type Chinese LOL.  My Chinese typing speed is probably something like 10 word per minute.

Though I've sent Tai-Hao an e-mail and let's see what they say  :P
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: Hyde on Wed, 01 May 2013, 22:12:08
So here's the update, they e-mailed me back saying the MOQ is 500 units.  =______=

This is worse than GMK BUT !!!!!  Price per set is USD $6.50 and the keycaps are made in Taiwan.  I've e-mailed her back to confirm that it's $6.50 per set (aka 104 keys) to make sure she didn't misunderstood me, though I haven't got a reply yet.

As for color, the choices are black, red, green, and blue.  She didn't specify the letter color so I'm guessing it's white.  Since it's double shot so it's probably white over black/red/green/blue.  HOWEVER she says only alpha can have color rest will be black, by alpha I'm guessing 37 key.

So if it ever does happen it sounds like we might have to order 500 set of white on black thick OEM ABS double shots.  Personally I think at the price it's not bad, but I've been too busy with full time work recently so hopefully someone who has time can run this group buy  :P

Also another news is that Sherryton seems to have came back, so I've ordered a Cherry Olivetti double shot from him and have got a shipping tracking number already.  I'll let you guys know when I actually gets it.  :D
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: Jocelyn on Wed, 01 May 2013, 22:30:37
So here's the update, they e-mailed me back saying the MOQ is 500 units.  =______=

Price per set is USD $6.50 and the keycaps are made in Taiwan.  I've e-mailed her back to confirm that it's $6.50 per set (aka 104 keys) to make sure she didn't misunderstood me, though I haven't got a reply yet.

lol $6.50 per set!?!?! I doubt there would be any trouble hitting 500 MOQ at that price, but seriously, $6.50 for a 104 set? >.>
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: mark_thaddeus on Wed, 01 May 2013, 22:31:05
Also another news is that Sherryton seems to have came back, so I've ordered a Cherry Olivetti double shot from him and have got a shipping tracking number already.  I'll let you guys know when I actually gets it.  :D

Noob question here, where can I order through Sherryton? Can you give me a link?

Thanks!  :D
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: mark_thaddeus on Wed, 01 May 2013, 22:32:12
I think it's $6.50 per set for the 37 key / alpha series, if it is the actual price, I wouldn't mind ordering 2 sets of it!
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 01 May 2013, 22:32:41
Also another news is that Sherryton seems to have came back, so I've ordered a Cherry Olivetti double shot from him and have got a shipping tracking number already.  I'll let you guys know when I actually gets it.  :D

Noob question here, where can I order through Sherryton? Can you give me a link?

Thanks!  :D

originativeco.com
Title: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: Halverson on Wed, 01 May 2013, 22:34:08
At $6.50 a set, I'd buy a dozen! Probably use them as....who knows!
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: mark_thaddeus on Wed, 01 May 2013, 22:34:15
originativeco.com

Much obliged good sir!
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: Hyde on Wed, 01 May 2013, 22:43:12
I think it's $6.50 per set for the 37 key / alpha series, if it is the actual price, I wouldn't mind ordering 2 sets of it!

lol that's why when I read it I'm like WTFBBQ?!?!?!?!?!  So I've sent another e-mail to double check but they haven't got back to me yet  :(
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: Jocelyn on Wed, 01 May 2013, 23:12:28
I think it's $6.50 per set for the 37 key / alpha series, if it is the actual price, I wouldn't mind ordering 2 sets of it!

lol that's why when I read it I'm like WTFBBQ?!?!?!?!?!  So I've sent another e-mail to double check but they haven't got back to me yet  :(

Oh right, I got too excited about 104 for $6.50, but that price for 37 is still incredible!!
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: mark_thaddeus on Wed, 01 May 2013, 23:18:22
Definitely still an awesome price for the 37 key set for $6.50! I might just even order red, blue, green and yellow for the fun of it!
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: tauburn on Thu, 02 May 2013, 08:04:55
i really want the blue on beige set he sells but >$90... idk..  :-[
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: Hyde on Thu, 02 May 2013, 19:08:03
Ohhhhhh she replied to my e-mail !!!

So yes it's confirmed that 104 key per set sells at $6.50 each  :eek:

And they only do 1 colour per set.  They can only do white letter but base can be black/red/blue/yellow (I think she mentioned green in one e-mail but the other e-mail she says yellow so I believe it was a typo).

Though there's only one problem, they don't have 1.25 size window key, menu key, and no 6.25 spacebar.  Otherwise this seems like a pretty sweet deal and sent me an example picture.  Doesn't look as thick as Cherry double shot but still not bad  :)

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lol and she's worry about me breaking the stabilizer bars when taking apart large keys.

Should've been like don't worry I'm from geekhack lol.

And someone start a group buy  :P
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: Jocelyn on Thu, 02 May 2013, 19:14:33
So yes it's confirmed that 104 key per set sells at $6.50 each  :eek:

GTFO!

I know someone's going to ask so it might as well be me. Can they do blanks? lol

Edit - I'm asking about blanks full sets AND blank 1.25 (for (Windown/Menu) & spacebars btw
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: Hyde on Thu, 02 May 2013, 19:52:24
lol I know right?  The price is ridiculous.  And I'm not sure about blanks, I assume the whole point is thick OEM double shot so I forgot to ask  :P

Though initially I was writing Chinese e-mail then I got lazy and noticed their English is actually pretty good so I start writing in English afterwards, you should shoot them an e-mail and see what they say lol.

Website:  http://www.tai-hao.com/
E-mail:  sales@tai-hao.com.tw

Are you gonna start a group buy for this?  @_____@  Jocelyn you're the best !!!  *glittery eyes*
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: Jocelyn on Thu, 02 May 2013, 20:08:58
If I wasn't moving soon, I totally would and if it doesn't start by the time I relocate, I'll pick it up, but I have a feeling someone else will between now and then.

Edit - Oh and I'm sorry lol, but I guarantee this will happen one way or another sooner or later :)
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: Hyde on Thu, 02 May 2013, 21:25:35
lol another e-mail, those guys reply FAST !!!

1. Yes, we can support blank keys (without letter printing) for windows & manu keys – 1x1 or 1x1.25 size are all available.
2. My quotation didn’t include metal bar and plastic parts under the keys.. Besides, I don’t know whether our keys which need metal bar and plastic parts are suitable for Filco keyboard or not.. \
3. Now the major problem is spacebar. We only have spacebar size at 1x5 and 1x7, no 1x6.25..

I'm assuming the stabilizers shouldn't be a problem might just need to order the plastic clip from WASD Keyboards for those that uses a Costar type.

And seems like it's possible to do blanks for win and menu key so that's taken care of.

Now the problem with the spacebar.  Not sure what we'd do but worst case scenario I guess everyone can order their own from WASD Keyboards also  :P
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 02 May 2013, 21:29:47
Wonder if the colours would match though.  WASD yellow is very pale, for example.
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: Jocelyn on Thu, 02 May 2013, 21:31:07
Now the problem with the spacebar.  Not sure what we'd do but worst case scenario I guess everyone can order their own from WASD Keyboards also  :P

Wonder if the colours would match though.  WASD yellow is very pale, for example.

Maybe ask Feng to do another GB for aluminum spacebars :)

Edit - Carrying this over from the last page :)

lol another e-mail, those guys reply FAST !!!

1. Yes, we can support blank keys (without letter printing) for windows & manu keys – 1x1 or 1x1.25 size are all available.
2. My quotation didn’t include metal bar and plastic parts under the keys.. Besides, I don’t know whether our keys which need metal bar and plastic parts are suitable for Filco keyboard or not.. \
3. Now the major problem is spacebar. We only have spacebar size at 1x5 and 1x7, no 1x6.25..

I'm assuming the stabilizers shouldn't be a problem might just need to order the plastic clip from WASD Keyboards for those that uses a Costar type.

And seems like it's possible to do blanks for win and menu key so that's taken care of.

Now the problem with the spacebar.  Not sure what we'd do but worst case scenario I guess everyone can order their own from WASD Keyboards also  :P
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: tauburn on Thu, 02 May 2013, 21:52:17
Wonder if the colours would match though.  WASD yellow is very pale, for example.

wasd everything is pale. idk how they stay in business
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 02 May 2013, 22:10:34
Wow, those are amazing prices.   I would be in for several at those prices regardless of the space bar.  If some other people in the LA/Orange County area wanted to help with sorting, I'd definitely be down for running or helping organize the GB.  That is as long California isn't one of those states that are starting to treat those kinds of transactions as taxable income.
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 02 May 2013, 22:35:55
So yes it's confirmed that 104 key per set sells at $6.50 each  :eek:

This is an almost hard to believe price, and making the MOQ of 500 sets, a moot number. Each person can buy 10 full sets and it will still be cheaper than 1 GMK set. The whole GB payment is only $3250, which is not much at all.
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: Glod on Thu, 02 May 2013, 23:34:55
*encourages Hyde to do interest check*

sign me up for a few lol this is crazy price, the space bar would be a problem but that just means i wouldn't use it on the 1.25 keyboards, got enough SP for those 1.25 layouts anywayz.

Get some blank 1x, 2x, and 1.5x and you would be a HERO for ergodox users lol but it sounds like only the 1x would be possible, one can dream though lol.

edit. hell i bet we could make the MOQ of TWO colors, like blue and black and then bam two tone set solved.

sucks the colors are limited though
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 03 May 2013, 00:11:05
*encourages Hyde to do interest check*

sign me up for a few lol this is crazy price, the space bar would be a problem but that just means i wouldn't use it on the 1.25 keyboards, got enough SP for those 1.25 layouts anywayz.

Get some blank 1x, 2x, and 1.5x and you would be a HERO for ergodox users lol but it sounds like only the 1x would be possible, one can dream though lol.

With as cheap as the sets are, I don't think it would be a big deal to have make the buy come with a 1x and 1.25x and, if they do them 1.5x and 2x as well.  It might add, what, all $0.25 to the order since they said a full set is $6.50.  And I don't know about you, but I'm always happy to have some extra keycaps to play/experiment with, give away, or to trade.
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: khaangaaroo on Fri, 03 May 2013, 00:26:42
Forget the IC. Someone drop three gees and get us these keys now. Sell them for $7 and make a nice profit for youz self.
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 03 May 2013, 01:01:39
Forget the IC. Someone drop three gees and get us these keys now. Sell them for $7 and make a nice profit for youz self.

If I had a spare $3.5k, I'd do it in a heartbeat. 
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: rowdy on Fri, 03 May 2013, 02:18:46
IC?
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: Jocelyn on Fri, 03 May 2013, 02:25:22
IC?

lol does that mean that you want one to start or rather that you didn't know IC stood for interest check? Being that you are who you are, surely you're requesting an IC start soon, right? :)
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 03 May 2013, 02:27:35
IC?

DO IT!

I'll even offer to help with the logistics of it all.  I've modded a large sub-reddit of over 100k people and handled the logistics, so I can't imagine it would be much tougher.  Right guys?  Please tell me I'm right.
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: Moosecraft on Fri, 03 May 2013, 05:51:07
I'd be in for one of those taiwanese sets, so cheap  :eek:
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: phetto on Fri, 03 May 2013, 06:05:03
Hahaha $6 for a full 104 key set? They must think that we will order 25000 sets or something :D
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: Moosecraft on Fri, 03 May 2013, 07:03:38
Hahaha $6 for a full 104 key set? They must think that we will order 25000 sets or something :D
Gratz for 1k posts :D
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 03 May 2013, 09:13:21
Wow, $6.50 a set, mind blown. Odd they have no 6.25 space when they use 1.25 for bottom row... does not compute. At least with primary colors and OEM profile it might not be too tough to get matching enough from another source.
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: Hyde on Fri, 03 May 2013, 21:06:13
http://www.tai-hao.com/english/products_detail.php?main_id=1&second_id=44&p_id=309&now_rows=0

Based from the picture it looks like a giant left ctrl and the rest are 1x1.  Such a weird layout.  As for the 1.25 I think it's blank only.

But yeah we should be able to get other match keycaps elsewhere, haha watch the entire set will be cheaper than bottom row we get elsewhere  :P

And sorry guys, I'd do it but now I'm working full time Monday to Friday and Sundays  :(
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: bazemk1979 on Fri, 03 May 2013, 21:39:25
I would be in for 4 sets 100% sure, blue,black,red,yellow :)
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 03 May 2013, 23:06:07
Should we start and interest check?
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: bazemk1979 on Fri, 03 May 2013, 23:11:06
we can do IC, but who will actually do all the packaging,collecting,delivering.... I don't have any experience in GB, but I wouldn't mind a little help. If someone that lives near Tampa Fl wants to pitch in, as solo not sure how will I handle, will think about it and ask Lysol for some tips on wrapping up GB's.
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 03 May 2013, 23:38:15
we can do IC, but who will actually do all the packaging,collecting,delivering.... I don't have any experience in GB, but I wouldn't mind a little help. If someone that lives near Tampa Fl wants to pitch in, as solo not sure how will I handle, will think about it and ask Lysol for some tips on wrapping up GB's.

I'm in Southern California and I'd be willing to do/help with the packaging and help run the logistical side, but I don't really know what's the best way to handle the money side of it.  Invoicing shouldn't be too hard with the PayPal Excel plug in (https://www.paypal.com/webapps/mpp/excel-invoice-template-plugin), but I'm not sure what's the best way to get everything set up there.  I also know some states, particularly California, it can be tricky with some of the new tax reporting laws they've set up.

I think we would do well to talk to some people who've organized some group buys in the past.
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: mark_thaddeus on Sat, 04 May 2013, 21:16:37
Definitely in for two sets, the black and blue! I'll be keeping an eye on this thread once the group buy has been setup.
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: Rule16 on Sat, 04 May 2013, 21:20:59
Wow.. at that price I'm in for atleast 4 sets... 2 reds 2 blues... That's assuming that the letting is white of course, black on red doesn't look to great in my opinion.
[Meanwhile; they realize they made a miscommunication and send an email explaining they meant $6.50 per key  :)) ]
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: Hak Foo on Sat, 04 May 2013, 22:02:30
At ~$7 per set, I could see avoiding a lot of the "colour combination" battles.

Want red modifiers and a black main set?  Buy a red set, and a black set.  Fourteen bucks.  Throw the rest out the window for all we care.

In spite of having no boards suitable for it, I'd be in for a red set and a black one at that price.

Personally, I also like the typography better than the STOCK Signature Plastics typography.  SP's font looks good on a retro setup with big legends, centered legends, that sort of thing.  However, for a modern look, like CCnG or Klaxon or the like, it just seems like an unwanted baggage.

Costar stabilisers:  Why can't you just pull them from your stock caps?  Admittedly, that doesn't help Phantom/etc owners, but maybe they can salvage some from a dead board, or order them after-market.
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: Vintage on Sat, 04 May 2013, 22:12:20
HOLY CRAP that price is too good to pass up  :eek:

I'd say the best bet for a spacebar would be to get one from SP but they are notoriously sharp. I know there were issues with the DSA retro set GB spacebars but I believe they eventually got them. The Bar would likely be lower than the rest of the set but I don't think it would be sharp. 
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: bazemk1979 on Sat, 04 May 2013, 22:24:30
At ~$7 per set, I could see avoiding a lot of the "colour combination" battles.

Want red modifiers and a black main set?  Buy a red set, and a black set.  Fourteen bucks.  Throw the rest out the window for all we care.

In spite of having no boards suitable for it, I'd be in for a red set and a black one at that price.

Personally, I also like the typography better than the STOCK Signature Plastics typography.  SP's font looks good on a retro setup with big legends, centered legends, that sort of thing.  However, for a modern look, like CCnG or Klaxon or the like, it just seems like an unwanted baggage.

Costar stabilisers:  Why can't you just pull them from your stock caps?  Admittedly, that doesn't help Phantom/etc owners, but maybe they can salvage some from a dead board, or order them after-market.
what you mean you have no boards suitable for it, from the pic that GH member posted they make them full 104 ANSI sets and only window and page modifiers are not DS but pad printed.... We can have those modifiers in blanks. Maeby we can have few more keys as add on like ISO enter, maeby bottom modifiers x1 in blanks for 1800 boards, maeby they do make the small shift's..... all of this questions need to be asked of what is or isn't possible to add on to make the set more suitable for broader people.

By the end of the day its a killer deal even if your weird layout board is left out with 1-2 keys empty.... If someone descides to start talking to this company about adding caps as an add on to a full set, that way we can find out whats possible and whats not and then we can get final price tag on a full set. It wont go higher that $1 more per set with the add on keycaps. Its still a killer price.... Then we can have a GB from SP for space bars perhaps to match the colors?
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: Joxx on Sat, 04 May 2013, 22:48:47
Would love to get a couple blank set at this price!
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: Rule16 on Sun, 05 May 2013, 00:36:51
Would love to get a couple blank set at this price!
Why blank when you could get DoubleShot?
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: Joxx on Sun, 05 May 2013, 00:40:28
Sorry, I am new to this but you are talking about why I chose not to get letters on the keycaps right?
Title: Re: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: Jocelyn on Sun, 05 May 2013, 00:49:41
Why blank when you could get DoubleShot?

Because it's an option, colemak, devorak, they're cheap, etc.
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: AGmurdercore on Sun, 05 May 2013, 07:02:43
Deeeeeeyum! I am for 2-3 sets as well :D
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: bazemk1979 on Sun, 05 May 2013, 08:49:38
look they have green color too, http://keycaprep.com/product/detail.html?product_no=39&cate_no=40&display_group=1

but if you look right after opening the link in the left corner they offer orange color too :)
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: Lunartuna on Sun, 05 May 2013, 09:29:07
I'm wondering if the 5 space bar would work on a choc mini?? It'd be a bit small but just might work.
Title: Re: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: Rule16 on Sun, 05 May 2013, 09:48:05
Why blank when you could get DoubleShot?

Because it's an option, colemak, devorak, they're cheap, etc.
I can understand the layouts but cheap isn't really a factor right now is it.
Sorry, I am new to this but you are talking about why I chose not to get letters on the keycaps right?
In this case where DoubleShots are only 6.50 yes, you should take advantage of how cheap they are... You can get OEM blanks in lots of places, but nowhere else would you find DoubleShots for 6.50. If you don't know what DoubleShot means yet: http://deskthority.net/wiki/Doubleshot
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: metalliqaz on Sun, 05 May 2013, 10:56:30
Very in-ter-est-ing
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: LechnerDE on Mon, 06 May 2013, 14:09:10
The awkward moment when you realize that you pay more for shipping than for the actual set :D
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 06 May 2013, 15:11:42
... when you realise what Leopold users feel because they don't have a matching spacebar.
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: älg on Mon, 06 May 2013, 15:35:19
You might want to have a look at this thread regarding the Tai-Hao keycaps: http://deskthority.net/photos-videos-f8/taiwan-tai-hao-doubleshots-t5028.html
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: LechnerDE on Mon, 06 May 2013, 15:41:01
You might want to have a look at this thread regarding the Tai-Hao keycaps: http://deskthority.net/photos-videos-f8/taiwan-tai-hao-doubleshots-t5028.html

Thanks for the link!

The quality seems to be mediocre but that was to be expected.

But for that price I'd buy a set of each color anyway :D
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: bazemk1979 on Mon, 06 May 2013, 16:07:31
why in heck pics that are posted on desktority they wont open, its like showing its loading all the time.... This is only happening to me on Desktority.........
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 06 May 2013, 17:07:04
What's with the texture on the side of the red key?
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: Rule16 on Tue, 07 May 2013, 20:13:13
We need updates :( ... is anyone going to set up a groupbuy of this?
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: Q404 on Wed, 08 May 2013, 11:41:49
It was too good to be true T_T
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: Hyde on Sat, 18 May 2013, 12:07:13
lol damn it no one's doing it eh?  Maybe we should make a post in interest check to see if anyone will step up to run it  :P
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: Jocelyn on Sat, 18 May 2013, 12:10:44
lol damn it no one's doing it eh?  Maybe we should make a post in interest check to see if anyone will step up to run it  :P

Thread title is definitely hurting it imo. Get rid of SP (lol) and add something like 104 cherry sets for $6.50 with a bunch of question marks :p
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: Hyde on Sat, 18 May 2013, 12:22:07
lol I guess it's true, because people won't know about it until they read it.

I'll update it  :)
Title: Re: SP Double Shot or Cherry Double Shot?
Post by: Jocelyn on Sat, 18 May 2013, 12:24:00
I'm glad you found the humor in that lol. You could also start an IC requesting someone to do a GB, but that's up to you.

Edit - lol nice going Hyde! Everyone is in here now!! The title is NOT a joke, but we need someone to do a GB!!!!
Title: Re: SP or Cherry Double Shot? UPDATE: Tai Hao Double Shot $6.50 per 104 key?!?!?!?!
Post by: Hak Foo on Sat, 18 May 2013, 12:41:43
The deskthority page shows those weird rubber caps for ALPS, which suggests they're at least aware of ALPS switches.

If they made an ALPS set I could see there being a lot of pent-up demand because there's simply no alternative to scavenging used boards.
Title: Re: SP or Cherry Double Shot? UPDATE: Tai Hao Double Shot $6.50 per 104 key?!?!?!?!
Post by: Hyde on Sat, 18 May 2013, 12:55:00
Interest check made !!!

It's here once it's approved by mod:  http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43668.0

If it's not working then be patient  :P

The deskthority page shows those weird rubber caps for ALPS, which suggests they're at least aware of ALPS switches.

If they made an ALPS set I could see there being a lot of pent-up demand because there's simply no alternative to scavenging used boards.

Oh yeah I forgot to mention they sell rubber gaming WASD Keys too.  But I didn't get to ask what their MOQ is on that one.  Though you could be right this could attract ALPS users lol.
Title: Re: SP or Cherry Double Shot? UPDATE: Tai Hao Double Shot $6.50 per 104 key?!?!?!?!
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 18 May 2013, 13:12:36
Wouldn't starting a GB be better because you'd still need 500 orders to complete the GB.  Create a google doc and have people submit their orders and wait until it reaches MOQ?

I dont mind a yellow set :D
Title: Re: SP or Cherry Double Shot? UPDATE: Tai Hao Double Shot $6.50 per 104 key?!?!?!?!
Post by: Jocelyn on Sat, 18 May 2013, 13:14:56
Wouldn't starting a GB be better because you'd still need 500 orders to complete the GB.  Create a google doc and have people submit their orders and wait until it reaches MOQ?

Maybe, but Hyde didn't want to run the GB. I think doing the Google doc thing for IC in addition to looking for someone to run it would be a good idea.
Title: Re: SP or Cherry Double Shot? UPDATE: Tai Hao Double Shot $6.50 per 104 key?!?!?!?!
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 18 May 2013, 13:16:43
Wouldn't starting a GB be better because you'd still need 500 orders to complete the GB.  Create a google doc and have people submit their orders and wait until it reaches MOQ?

Maybe, but Hyde didn't want to run the GB. I think doing the Google doc thing for IC in addition to looking for someone to run it would be a good idea.

You're right :)
Title: Re: SP or Cherry Double Shot? UPDATE: Tai Hao Double Shot $6.50 per 104 key?!?!?!?!
Post by: elton5354 on Sat, 18 May 2013, 13:24:17
I don't mind doing it ;)
Title: Re: SP or Cherry Double Shot? UPDATE: Tai Hao Double Shot $6.50 per 104 key?!?!?!?!
Post by: Hyde on Sat, 18 May 2013, 17:26:16
Elton you're our saviour !!!!!!

:D
Title: Re: SP or Cherry Double Shot? UPDATE: Tai Hao Double Shot $6.50 per 104 key?!?!?!?!
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 18 May 2013, 20:26:50
I dont mind a yellow set :D

Good man!! :D
Title: Re: SP or Cherry Double Shot? UPDATE: Tai Hao Double Shot $6.50 per 104 key?!?!?!?!
Post by: mark_thaddeus on Sun, 19 May 2013, 03:52:05
I'll definitely be getting a black set and a blue set! I can't wait for this! Can we make reservations now? Lol!
Title: Re: SP or Cherry Double Shot? UPDATE: Tai Hao Double Shot $6.50 per 104 key?!?!?!?!
Post by: Hyde on Sun, 19 May 2013, 11:06:42
Interest check form is up here:  http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43668.0

Everyone go fill it out  :P