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Title: Keyboard with increased keycap spacing or larger kecaps
Post by: hashish on Tue, 30 April 2013, 10:14:32
Does this exist, I keep finding my self hitting adjacent keys. I have bigger hands, but not the biggest. I do like some RD keyboards that have larger keycaps and spacing between the keys. I tried searching, but I couldn't find any answers. Any advice or a nudge in the right direction would be appreciated :)
Title: Re: Keyboard with increased keycap spacing or larger kecaps
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 30 April 2013, 10:16:09
https://www.google.com/search?q=oversized+keyboard&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=FuB_UYLuMImoywHa7IDQDA&biw=1680&bih=858&sei=GOB_UZjjM8HfyAHl64GQDQ

Some can be mechanical. I've heard of some with Alps and I think one with MX switches.
Title: Re: Keyboard with increased keycap spacing or larger kecaps
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 30 April 2013, 10:16:45
Also, you might considered a DSA cap set. They are all the same profile, and much shorter, thus end up being wider and probably easier to type on for you.
Title: Re: Keyboard with increased keycap spacing or larger kecaps
Post by: hashish on Tue, 30 April 2013, 10:28:34
Also, you might considered a DSA cap set. They are all the same profile, and much shorter, thus end up being wider and probably easier to type on for you.

I did find info on the DSA cap set. Are there issues with them not being sculpted?

I did search oversized keyboard but I just got large lettering, rather than keycaps.
Title: Re: Keyboard with increased keycap spacing or larger kecaps
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 30 April 2013, 10:30:04
Those keycaps look much larger than normal to me. For instance, you can see the image of a guy's fingers over one of them.

DSA not being sculpted? How do you mean?
Title: Re: Keyboard with increased keycap spacing or larger kecaps
Post by: ITzNybble on Tue, 30 April 2013, 10:32:07
You could also just do a typing test throughout the day, it all comes down to muscle memory, if you don't like my scientific answer then i would say DSA caps are your best bet as far as I know.
Title: Re: Keyboard with increased keycap spacing or larger kecaps
Post by: hashish on Tue, 30 April 2013, 10:37:14
Those keycaps look much larger than normal to me. For instance, you can see the image of a guy's fingers over one of them.

DSA not being sculpted? How do you mean?

They are not angled for each row. All of the keycaps have the same profile/angle to them.
Title: Re: Keyboard with increased keycap spacing or larger kecaps
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 30 April 2013, 10:40:24
That's right, they aren't. It's been said that the angle of them is unnecessary and dates to a time when they used to need that angle.
Title: Re: Keyboard with increased keycap spacing or larger kecaps
Post by: hashish on Tue, 30 April 2013, 10:44:35
You could also just do a typing test throughout the day, it all comes down to muscle memory, if you don't like my scientific answer then i would say DSA caps are your best bet as far as I know.

Thanks, I type all day long so I have the muscle memory. The top of the keycaps are just too small that my large finger ends up slipping off and hitting an adjacent key. I could try PBT keycaps because they typically have a rougher surface with more friction.
Title: Re: Keyboard with increased keycap spacing or larger kecaps
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 30 April 2013, 10:46:50
You could also just do a typing test throughout the day, it all comes down to muscle memory, if you don't like my scientific answer then i would say DSA caps are your best bet as far as I know.

Thanks, I type all day long so I have the muscle memory. The top of the keycaps are just too small that my large finger ends up slipping off and hitting an adjacent key. I could try PBT keycaps because they typically have a rougher surface with more friction.

That's not necessarily true. My Klaxon set has a rougher texture than my Imsto Cherry caps right now. It depends on the mold more than the material.
Title: Re: Keyboard with increased keycap spacing or larger kecaps
Post by: hashish on Tue, 30 April 2013, 10:47:09
That's right, they aren't. It's been said that the angle of them is unnecessary and dates to a time when they used to need that angle.

I have a QFR and a Leopold TKL, have you used DSA's with any standard TKL? I think I missed out on the group buys, but I inquired about extra sets.
Title: Re: Keyboard with increased keycap spacing or larger kecaps
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 30 April 2013, 10:49:04
I haven't used DSA ever, but I am eagerly anticipating the arrival of my DSA Retro set.
Title: Re: Keyboard with increased keycap spacing or larger kecaps
Post by: hashish on Tue, 30 April 2013, 10:59:12
I haven't used DSA ever, but I am eagerly anticipating the arrival of my DSA Retro set.

I am jealous.
Title: Re: Keyboard with increased keycap spacing or larger kecaps
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 30 April 2013, 11:00:50
TechKeys will have some Retro DSA leftovers I think and there's a rumor that more DSA caps are incoming, keep an eye on the classifieds ^__^
Title: Re: Keyboard with increased keycap spacing or larger kecaps
Post by: Dubsgalore on Tue, 30 April 2013, 11:02:46
I just missed out on getting some DSA...maybe i should have gotten some..
Title: Re: Keyboard with increased keycap spacing or larger kecaps
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 30 April 2013, 11:08:44
Tech Keys will have leftover Retro DSA sets and Funkymeeba/meeba will be coming out with some DSA sets SoonTM :D
Title: Re: Keyboard with increased keycap spacing or larger kecaps
Post by: Dubsgalore on Tue, 30 April 2013, 11:11:02
Funkymeeba/meeba will be coming out with some DSA sets SoonTM :D

That's what i was talking about :)
i could have got some with him
Title: Re: Keyboard with increased keycap spacing or larger kecaps
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 30 April 2013, 11:11:35
Pretty sure you can still get some. But you'll have to ask him
Title: Re: Keyboard with increased keycap spacing or larger kecaps
Post by: hashish on Tue, 30 April 2013, 11:47:41
I messaged samwisekoi from the unpaid extras thread in the GB forum.
Title: Re: Keyboard with increased keycap spacing or larger kecaps
Post by: Grim Fandango on Tue, 30 April 2013, 16:34:25
Bigger keys may be more of a hassle than you might think. You have probably built up a lot of muscle memory with the current keysizes. Changing those sizes and distances may be annoying.

Alternatively, you could go for a heavier or more tactile switch. Buy I imagine you have tried this already. Personally accidental keypresses are only an issue for me when I am using reds. I thought I would get used to it, but it remains a problem, and it is one of the reasons why I sold my board with reds.