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Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Photekq on Fri, 03 May 2013, 11:17:51
I'm interested in it. My cartridge razor always gives me bad, uneven cuts and irritates my skin. Any recommendations? I don't want to spend too much on it mind.

edit : holy crap moose that's quite a collection.
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Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 03 May 2013, 11:19:38
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Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Photekq on Fri, 03 May 2013, 11:20:20
I'm going to be building up the second post with resources that I hope will help you find what you're looking for. Check back there a bit later.
Sounds good. Thanks!
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 03 May 2013, 11:21:09
I tried using a safety razor for a while. I'll post my "vintage" stuff later.

I found that I get the most comfortable shave with a Mach 3 and Edge shaving gel. I tried the Fusion for about a year, and went back to the Mach 3.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: DamienG on Fri, 03 May 2013, 12:42:01
Got fed up paying $$$ for Gillette Mach-3 blades I went back to basics and picked up a Merkur 12C (http://www.kineticblue.com.au/merkur-12c-barber-pole-safety-razor-long-handled-open-comb.html) (now discontinued, hence crazy price).  It's an open-tooth variety so you need to be a little steadier but cuts really close. Has a nice heft to it that helps keep the shave smooth and the top comes off so it's very easy to clean.

Picked up some blade sampler packs via Amazon and have been working my way through them. Current favorite is the Gillette 7 O'clock green. Kind of ironic given this venture was to get away from their stuff. On the plus side I'm finding most of these blades last about a month and work out at around 25 cents.  There's not been an awful lot of difference in the blades apart from the first shave or two and how quickly they dull. The Feather blades are incredibly sharp and the only one where I nick myself more than the Mach-3.

Parker Silvertip shave brush which I have to admit I don't soak as much as I probably should. Either my face doesn't need much lathering or the soap is good. Brush isn't too hard, or too soft and comes with a little stand.

Favorite soap so far is Col Conk Shaving Soap Bay Rum (http://www.westcoastshaving.com/Col-Conk-Shaving-Soap-Bay-Rum-Small-225-oz_p_906.html) although I've not tried many. It sits in one of those small aluminum tins which holds up incredibly well to abuse.

Open to suggestions for additional soaps and blades to try.

[)amien
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Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 03 May 2013, 12:58:02
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Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: JPG on Fri, 03 May 2013, 12:58:21
I have been thinking about wet shaving for a few years, but never did any research on it before like 2-3 months ago.

I am in the process of saving money to buy myself a straight razor and all the stuff needed to use it and keep it in good shape. I also order the dreadnought shaving kit on massdrop and I should receive it very soon.

Here's my actual wishlist. If you can provide comments on my choices it would be appreciated!

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It's a lot of money for all of it, but at the same time I should be good for a LONG time with these. But since it's a lot of money, I don't want to make bad choices. Right now, my main interrogation is the width of the straight razor. I was aiming for 6/8 until I was this Hart Steel 7/8 cocobolo!

By the way moose, you got all that stuff in a year?!?  :eek: :eek: :eek:
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 03 May 2013, 13:06:17
I just noticed your shaving station has one of my favorite amusing little ads:

(http://i.imgur.com/wVqiBBV.jpg)

I need to try wet shaving some time in the future.  My skin absolutely hates me shaving, but I hear wet shaving helps with that.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: JPG on Fri, 03 May 2013, 13:06:25
I tried using a safety razor for a while. I'll post my "vintage" stuff later.

I found that I get the most comfortable shave with a Mach 3 and Edge shaving gel. I tried the Fusion for about a year, and went back to the Mach 3.
I always tell people, if you don't have any problem with shaving with a cartridge, or you definitely don't wish to spend more time shaving, then don't try to fix what isn't broken. BUT, if your shaving experiences suck, you really should give this a go.

Hehe. In theory, wet shaving can make you save money. But I am pretty sure that it is as true as it is true that in theory, buying a mechanical keyboard that last for 10+ years is economic. Yea then 2 months later you have enough mechanical keyboards and keycaps to type nonstop for the rest of your life and even more.

Personaly, I have a rather sensitive skin and I can't stand my razor anymore. But I think that the main razor for the move is that I consider that there's not enough "manly" moments in our life nowadays and shaving with a straight razor would be one of these rare moments!  ;D
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Tarzan on Fri, 03 May 2013, 13:14:39
Adding myself to the thread for tracking.

I've tried a couple of single-blade razors, now I'll have to see what brand they are.  Big fan of wet shaving, but it is more time intensive.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 03 May 2013, 13:15:33
I use a safety razor also. They are alright, but shaving isn't exactly pleasurable. I'd like to get a wetshaver (is that the correct term?), but no idea where to start really.
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Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: mr_a500 on Fri, 03 May 2013, 13:23:33
I've had a Merkur razor and Simpson brush (Pure Badger! ... sure beats rat hair ;D) for about 15 years now. I don't bother with fancy shaving soaps. I just use a cheap 99¢ pure olive oil bar that I also use for my hands and in the shower. The brush gets it into a good lather.

The Merkur razor is great - except after many years use, the segments come apart. (poor welding?) It's still useable, but I have to be careful that it doesn't come apart when I'm shaving.
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Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 03 May 2013, 13:25:57
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Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 03 May 2013, 13:33:35
This is my vintage gear:

(http://i.imgur.com/7LlyqEb.png)

Old Spice "Ship Friendship" mug with some kind of Bay Rum scented soap, plastic handled brush, Personna blades, Gillette razor.


(http://i.imgur.com/Z2OgWPD.png)

Not sure what model this is. I think it was made in the '50s. On the underside it says "REG U.S.         PAT. OFF" and the Gillette arrow logo with "MADE IN U.S.A."
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: tjcaustin on Fri, 03 May 2013, 13:39:43
I keep thinking I should try this as I grow a beard mainly because shaving isn't one of my favorite things.

But:
1. I don't like shaving, in terms of the act itself and don't see myself wanting to increase the time it takes to do it.  I already feel like it takes forever when I use a modern razor and gel as I have to make multiple passes and still have patches of rough stubble instead of smooth skin.

2.  I don't really like the idea of risking face cuts.
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Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 03 May 2013, 13:45:33
I always get really red spotty skin after shaving. Also, the shave isn't as close as I'd like (even with shaving against the grain; shaving against the grain likely causes the red bumps).
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: noisyturtle on Fri, 03 May 2013, 13:46:21
There is seriously something mentally wrong with people who shave dry. It's something a demented person would do like hanging the toilet paper facing inwards, or feeding peanut-butter covered dolls' eyes to geese at the park to get rid of the evidence.

I always get really red spotty skin after shaving. Also, the shave isn't as close as I'd like (even with shaving against the grain; shaving against the grain likely causes the red bumps).
Try Neutrogena Men sensitive shave cream. I used to get red blotchy skin after shaving too, but this stuff works wonders after a few shaves.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 03 May 2013, 13:49:10
I always get really red spotty skin after shaving. Also, the shave isn't as close as I'd like (even with shaving against the grain; shaving against the grain likely causes the red bumps).

Same deal with me.  And shaving hurts in my case.  I must have super thick hair or something because whenever I shave, even after a shower, using shaving cream that's supposed to soften up stiff hair, and using a new blade, it hurts.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: tjcaustin on Fri, 03 May 2013, 13:50:02
I always get really red spotty skin after shaving. Also, the shave isn't as close as I'd like (even with shaving against the grain; shaving against the grain likely causes the red bumps).

That sounds a bit like you've got a dull blade.  On the flip side, I used to have more irritation when I shaved at your age than I do now as well.

Have you tried any moisturizers or after shaves (again, helped me when your age)?

I keep thinking I should try this as I grow a beard mainly because shaving isn't one of my favorite things.

But:
1. I don't like shaving, in terms of the act itself and don't see myself wanting to increase the time it takes to do it.  I already feel like it takes forever when I use a modern razor and gel as I have to make multiple passes and still have patches of rough stubble instead of smooth skin.

2.  I don't really like the idea of risking face cuts.
The risk of cutting yourself with a safety razor is relatively low, if you do it right. Like I said, I've only really cut myself twice. And I'm able to shave fairly quickly, after experience. I used to hate shaving as well. I felt the same way you did. But when I started wetshaving, it was like an epiphany. I actually enjoyed it! I didn't mind the extra time. Eventually, I condensed my routine down to a speedy thing to get done in the morning, but it's never the same feeling I used to feel with a cartridge and gel.

Well and then there's the fact that current beard is 7 months old (started when I got my shiba puppy) and I'm strangely attached to it.  I've tried to trim it a few times and end up walking away.

I always get really red spotty skin after shaving. Also, the shave isn't as close as I'd like (even with shaving against the grain; shaving against the grain likely causes the red bumps).

Same deal with me.  And shaving hurts in my case.  I must have super thick hair or something because whenever I shave, even after a shower, using shaving cream that's supposed to soften up stiff hair, and using a new blade, it hurts.

How long is the hair you're trying to shave?
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 03 May 2013, 13:50:59
That's a Gillette Superspeed, jd. Is there a letter and number under the head? I always liked those Old Spice mugs. I never got my hands on one. A lot of people take those brushes, removed the knot of old boar hair and drop a nice badger knot in.

Nope, no letter and number. Under the blade bed it says "PAT. NOS.       ON PKG" so I assume it was made sometime between 1950 and 1954.


Edit: FYI, I don't spend a huge amount on cartridges for my Mach 3, etiher. One year, I tried an experiment to see how long I could shave on one Mach 3 cartridge. I don't always shave every day, at least I didn't back then, so probably 3-4 times per week, on average. Also, my beard is not very thick. I was able to shave without irritation for an entire year on one Mach 3 cartridge. True story. :)
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: mr_a500 on Fri, 03 May 2013, 13:52:04
I wouldn't say poor welding, but cheap material. Probably made of zinc or pot metal. I wouldn't know, unless I knew which razor it was. There are razors made of brass, aluminum, steel, that will last forever. I have many...

It looks like chromed brass. Here it is:
(http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/5978/merkur1.jpg)
(http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/7954/merkur2y.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 03 May 2013, 13:54:32
How long is the hair you're trying to shave?

Any length is that way.  1-3 days worth of hair is the worst.  It's tolerable once it gets a little longer, but still uncomfortable and kind of defeats the purpose of shaving.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 03 May 2013, 13:55:09
KingKlaxon, I've not tried moisturizers or aftershaves. I often change out the cartridge, so I don't think it's that. I'll get back to this if the bumps continue. :) Thanks.
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Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 03 May 2013, 13:56:36
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Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: DamienG on Fri, 03 May 2013, 13:58:34
1. I don't like shaving, in terms of the act itself and don't see myself wanting to increase the time it takes to do it.  I already feel like it takes forever when I use a modern razor and gel as I have to make multiple passes and still have patches of rough stubble instead of smooth skin.
2.  I don't really like the idea of risking face cuts.
I didn't enjoy shaving with a Mach-3, was just a chore. Now it's something I enjoy. Probably only takes an extra minute or two for the lather as I used to just wet my face with a facecloth before. The smell of a good soap and the feel of the brush makes it more than worth it.

I do get the odd nick but no more than I did with the Mach-3.

[)amien
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Grim Fandango on Fri, 03 May 2013, 14:00:11
I am a wet shaver. No irritation, nothing.

One thing I dislike about wet shaving is how freaking expensive those razerblades are. The one I am currently using is about 15 euros for 3 blades. You would swear they are made from gold. I have tried some cheaper ones, but truth be told, they do not feel as good.
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Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: DamienG on Fri, 03 May 2013, 14:05:55
Oh, for post-shave I recommend buying a bottle of witch-hazel.

Cools the skin, good for moisture and cleaning (it's the primary ingredient in a lot of expensive things like Clinique for Men Scruffing Lotion).

Currently $4 for 16oz on Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/****insons-Astringent-Natural-Witch-Hazel/dp/B00016WW8Q).

[)amien
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: mr_a500 on Fri, 03 May 2013, 14:07:53
mr_a500: Have you tried anything adhesive to keep it stuck together? I would've done that ages ago... Looks like a quick fix.

Of course I could epoxy it or something. I didn't bother yet because it fits in reasonably tight (and I'm also very lazy). My point in mentioning it is just to warn others that this can happen to Merkur razors over time.

One thing I dislike about wet shaving is how freaking expensive those razerblades are. The one I am currently using is about 15 euros for 3 blades. You would swear they are made from gold. I have tried some cheaper ones, but truth be told, they do not feel as good.

The razor blades I use claim to be platinum coated.
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Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Tarzan on Fri, 03 May 2013, 14:39:01
I've also had good results using a skin oil before applying gel or lather.  The one I use is mostly almond oil, came in a gift pack from the local mall, The Art of Shaving store.

http://www.theartofshaving.com/Unscented-Pre-Shave-Oil/00670535100003,default,pd.html?start=1&cgid=shaving-products-pre-shave-oil&navid=shaving-products-pre-shave-oil

I've had mixed results using safety razors, it could be my choice of blades, given the comments on the thread.  This pre-shave oil helps with even cartridge shaving, YMMV of course.
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Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 03 May 2013, 14:43:37
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Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: noisyturtle on Fri, 03 May 2013, 16:53:12
You know what's awesome? When you grow out your face all wilderly for a few weeks then use a trimmer on it with the #1 or 2 attachment and you have that thickass one day action hero beard. Yeah man, that's the ticket.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: swagpiratex on Fri, 03 May 2013, 17:05:00
I think anyone who wet shaves owes it to themselves to buy a sampler pack of blades. I learned that the Japanese Feathers are too sharp for my skin. But the Derby's and Gillete razors allow me to get the job done quickly with minimal cuts.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Badwrench on Fri, 03 May 2013, 18:38:31
I've also had good results using a skin oil before applying gel or lather.  The one I use is mostly almond oil, came in a gift pack from the local mall, The Art of Shaving store.

http://www.theartofshaving.com/Unscented-Pre-Shave-Oil/00670535100003,default,pd.html?start=1&cgid=shaving-products-pre-shave-oil&navid=shaving-products-pre-shave-oil

I've had mixed results using safety razors, it could be my choice of blades, given the comments on the thread.  This pre-shave oil helps with even cartridge shaving, YMMV of course.

I am using the sandalwood scented one.  I tried going without oil and it was a no go.  My facial hair is way too thick and my skin way to sensitive.  I can only go with the grain and can only shave about 2-3 times a week (even though I have a 10 o'clock shadow by mid afternoon).  Currently just using that oil with the Art of Shaving Ocean Kelp shaving cream - smells great. 
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: emptyk on Fri, 03 May 2013, 19:46:32
LOL, is the OP a Badger & Blade member? Anyway, yeah, wet shaving is a crazy "hobby" that's for sure. Guilty as charged (http://dailyacquisition.blogspot.com/2012/09/traditional-wet-shaving-seriously.html).
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: kurplop on Fri, 03 May 2013, 20:16:28
For years my shaving routine consisted of shaving in the shower then cleaning up the missed areas in front of the mirror afterwards. The results were an average shave, occasional irritation and expensive Mach3 blades that would be dull after three shaves. It was just something I had  to do but didn't enjoy. It bothered me how much Gillette would charge for a blade that wouldn't last a week. 

I heard about this resurgence in traditional shaving techniques about six months ago and investigated. I ended up buying a brush and a tube of Prorazo. I decided to stay with the Mach3 and began getting a much closer shave and I actually enjoyed the experience of whipping up some cream and lathering up.   

After a few months the novelty wore off but I still enjoy the experience and the Mach3's have been lasting for about 15-20 shaves. Take that Gillette!

One thing I began doing that I would recommend is to buy a cheap hot water machine. I got one on Amazon for about $20. Normal people use them for heating a cup of water for tea or  other hot beverages. I fire it up right out of the shower, when it begins to boil I stick my head over the steam for about 30 seconds, pour the water into the mug, let the boiling water heat the mug and brush,  pour out after 30 seconds, add cream, whip up lather and apply.

Much of the success in shaving is dependent on heat to prepare your skin and soften your hair. The steam plus the hot lather is a winning combination. Try it.

One note of caution-  Be careful with the steam.  Incrementally discover how close you can get and hold your breath. You can burn your skin and lungs on the steam.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 03 May 2013, 20:52:14
This should be a small introduction to wet shaving with safety razors. This is not meant to be an instruction but rather a guide that gets you started. Many people do these things differently, but this is what I personally would recommend and tested. Any criticism and things I should add are very welcome!

Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Grim Fandango on Sat, 04 May 2013, 06:16:08
I am a wet shaver. No irritation, nothing.

One thing I dislike about wet shaving is how freaking expensive those razerblades are. The one I am currently using is about 15 euros for 3 blades. You would swear they are made from gold. I have tried some cheaper ones, but truth be told, they do not feel as good.
What blade is it? That's pretty expensive. Way too expensive. Generally, once you find your blade, you buy that blade in bulk to save on cost.

It is the Gilette fusion. It was actually 15 euros for 4 blades (still outrageous). I do buy the larger packages, but am considering to try something a little cheaper. The main reason I am still using this is laziness to try something else really.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: E TwentyNine on Sat, 04 May 2013, 09:27:08
I think anyone who wet shaves owes it to themselves to buy a sampler pack of blades. I learned that the Japanese Feathers are too sharp for my skin. But the Derby's and Gillete razors allow me to get the job done quickly with minimal cuts.

Definite on the sampler pack, everyone has different preferences. 

I have three vintage Gillettes from the 60's/70's two adjustable and one fixed.

I either go with Feather or Derby, sometimes Astra which I'm out of at the moment.

Depends on my mood and how often I shave.  Derby is very forgiving but not as close as the others.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: E TwentyNine on Sat, 04 May 2013, 09:32:06
It is the Gilette fusion. It was actually 15 euros for 4 blades (still outrageous). I do buy the larger packages, but am considering to try something a little cheaper. The main reason I am still using this is laziness to try something else really.

While technically using a Gillette Fusion could be considered wet shaving,  generally when people say "wet shave" they mean shaving with a straight or double-edge vintage style razor.   Fusion is a cartridge razor. See this post (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43145.msg878152#msg878152) for an example of the inventory of a wet shaving enthusiast.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Grim Fandango on Sun, 05 May 2013, 04:08:50
It is the Gilette fusion. It was actually 15 euros for 4 blades (still outrageous). I do buy the larger packages, but am considering to try something a little cheaper. The main reason I am still using this is laziness to try something else really.

While technically using a Gillette Fusion could be considered wet shaving,  generally when people say "wet shave" they mean shaving with a straight or double-edge vintage style razor.   Fusion is a cartridge razor. See this post (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43145.msg878152#msg878152) for an example of the inventory of a wet shaving enthusiast.

Ah, I see. In Dutch we generally refer to both as wet shaving. Lost in translation :)
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: DamienG on Sun, 05 May 2013, 10:28:29
With regards for grain vs against the grain. My first pass is with the grain (except directly around the mouth which I do 90' too).

Second pass is against the grain.

It's always very smooth and close and I never have ingrowing hairs.

[)amien
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: PointyFox on Sun, 05 May 2013, 11:23:41
I think anyone who wet shaves owes it to themselves to buy a sampler pack of blades. I learned that the Japanese Feathers are too sharp for my skin. But the Derby's and Gillete razors allow me to get the job done quickly with minimal cuts.

Definite on the sampler pack, everyone has different preferences. 

I have three vintage Gillettes from the 60's/70's two adjustable and one fixed.

I either go with Feather or Derby, sometimes Astra which I'm out of at the moment.

Depends on my mood and how often I shave.  Derby is very forgiving but not as close as the others.

I guess if you have bumpy skin you need a duller blade.  I prefer Feather to Derby.  Derby starts out with a smooth dull edge.  While it doesn't cut you very easily, it also doesn't cut hair very easily or cut close to the skin.  I'm using Derby now and it takes me like 10 passes to get it as close as 2 passes from a Feather.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: nar on Sun, 05 May 2013, 12:46:34
I use a straight razor, I think the total cost for me was around $100 for the whole kit.

Got a vintage straight razor, basic leather strop, balsa wood pasted strop and styptic for around $50 from whippeddog.
The drug stores here sell Proraso so I'm using that with a Edwin Jager Badger Brush and a Alum Block, another $30 or so.
I then got a nicely sized ceramic bowl for a shave bowl from a local chinese houseware store for like $5.
Picked up some Feather Aftershave for about $10-$15.
Finally I used the Tsubaki Oil I use as a blade oil to keep the razor oiled and as a preshave oil.

Works well and I only need to pay money for more Proraso and maybe a honing every once in a while when the balsa wood strop doesn't cut it anymore.
Starting to feel the need to buy a better strop and razor though, hope it doesn't start the ball rolling, collecting straights is definately more expensive than just DEs.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: PointyFox on Mon, 06 May 2013, 00:05:06
I use a straight razor, I think the total cost for me was around $100 for the whole kit.

Got a vintage straight razor, basic leather strop, balsa wood pasted strop and styptic for around $50 from whippeddog.
The drug stores here sell Proraso so I'm using that with a Edwin Jager Badger Brush and a Alum Block, another $30 or so.
I then got a nicely sized ceramic bowl for a shave bowl from a local chinese houseware store for like $5.
Picked up some Feather Aftershave for about $10-$15.
Finally I used the Tsubaki Oil I use as a blade oil to keep the razor oiled and as a preshave oil.

Works well and I only need to pay money for more Proraso and maybe a honing every once in a while when the balsa wood strop doesn't cut it anymore.
Starting to feel the need to buy a better strop and razor though, hope it doesn't start the ball rolling, collecting straights is definately more expensive than just DEs.

Whippeddog's $10 strop is nice.  I've been using it for years now.  Was the vintage straight razor honed before you used it?  If not, it would need to be.  Also, I hone and sell vintage straight razors if anyone is interested.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: nar on Mon, 06 May 2013, 10:47:05
Whippeddog's $10 strop is nice.  I've been using it for years now.  Was the vintage straight razor honed before you used it?  If not, it would need to be.  Also, I hone and sell vintage straight razors if anyone is interested.

All of whippeddog's SRs are honed when sold.
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Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 06 May 2013, 12:14:24
So I'm trying to update the Resources post on the first page, and I'm feeling like this isn't such a good idea... It's been a long while since I've browsed shaving gear, and now I'm looking at all the things I wanted and some new things that weren't available back then...

SAVE ME!

No, Lieutenant, your men are already dead.

or

We are Borg. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: PointyFox on Mon, 06 May 2013, 22:11:18
Whippeddog's $10 strop is nice.  I've been using it for years now.  Was the vintage straight razor honed before you used it?  If not, it would need to be.  Also, I hone and sell vintage straight razors if anyone is interested.

All of whippeddog's SRs are honed when sold.
Whoops, missed that part.  Anyway, a Norton 4000/8000 waterstone is the most popular for maintaining SR edges.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: sth on Mon, 06 May 2013, 22:17:19
i use an old safety razor but i stopped using soap because it takes too long and the benefit is minimal for me compared to barbasol (i grow facial hair about as fast as a newborn baby grows hair on the bottom of its feet). now i stick with the safety razor because it's cheap (i just buy the cheapest blades i can get) and doesn't bother my face as much as a 3 blade razor does.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: PointyFox on Mon, 06 May 2013, 22:39:00
i use an old safety razor but i stopped using soap because it takes too long and the benefit is minimal for me compared to barbasol (i grow facial hair about as fast as a newborn baby grows hair on the bottom of its feet). now i stick with the safety razor because it's cheap (i just buy the cheapest blades i can get) and doesn't bother my face as much as a 3 blade razor does.
I went from Barbasol to $10 shaving soap, to $55 shaving soap, then back to Barbasol again for the same reasons.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 07 May 2013, 01:35:35
lol I just shave with an electric shaver. Anything wrong with that? Why is wetshaving so much better?

This thread makes it seem like shaving is a sport or something. Or even a hobby.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 07 May 2013, 01:50:16
C'mon that huge post shouldn't be that invisible... http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43145.msg878779#msg878779
It's partly a hobby.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 07 May 2013, 01:58:45
Somehow I actually missed that large post from just skimming the thread. Gonna go back and read it all now  ^-^
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: phetto on Tue, 07 May 2013, 02:48:10
I'm too lazy, using one of these babies every day
(http://eleven.se/files/e/e703e_250x250.jpg)
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Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Badwrench on Tue, 07 May 2013, 19:26:06
lol I just shave with an electric shaver. Anything wrong with that? Why is wetshaving so much better?

This thread makes it seem like shaving is a sport or something. Or even a hobby.
Shaving is something you do probably every day, just like typing on a keyboard. Just like using rubber domes, there are better things out there than your electrics or cartridge. Of course, people have turned something functional into a hobby, but coming from this site, is that something new to you?

Exactly!  Enjoyment of the mundane.   
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: tjcaustin on Tue, 07 May 2013, 19:28:55
lol I just shave with an electric shaver. Anything wrong with that? Why is wetshaving so much better?

This thread makes it seem like shaving is a sport or something. Or even a hobby.
Shaving is something you do probably every day, just like typing on a keyboard. Just like using rubber domes, there are better things out there than your electrics or cartridge. Of course, people have turned something functional into a hobby, but coming from this site, is that something new to you?

Exactly!  Enjoyment of the mundane.

I still have serious *serious* fears about being in the hospital for this.  It's irritating.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: E TwentyNine on Tue, 07 May 2013, 19:37:18
i use an old safety razor but i stopped using soap because it takes too long and the benefit is minimal for me compared to barbasol (i grow facial hair about as fast as a newborn baby grows hair on the bottom of its feet). now i stick with the safety razor because it's cheap (i just buy the cheapest blades i can get) and doesn't bother my face as much as a 3 blade razor does.
I went from Barbasol to $10 shaving soap, to $55 shaving soap, then back to Barbasol again for the same reasons.

I don't like the stuff in cans as they all smell like lighter fluid to me now, even the scented stuff. 

I stick with Van Der Hagen soap.  Dirt cheap and works great.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: PointyFox on Tue, 07 May 2013, 20:07:53
i use an old safety razor but i stopped using soap because it takes too long and the benefit is minimal for me compared to barbasol (i grow facial hair about as fast as a newborn baby grows hair on the bottom of its feet). now i stick with the safety razor because it's cheap (i just buy the cheapest blades i can get) and doesn't bother my face as much as a 3 blade razor does.
I went from Barbasol to $10 shaving soap, to $55 shaving soap, then back to Barbasol again for the same reasons.

I don't like the stuff in cans as they all smell like lighter fluid to me now, even the scented stuff. 

I stick with Van Der Hagen soap.  Dirt cheap and works great.
I must love the smell of lighter fluid then. Barbasol smells great.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: pgeiger on Wed, 08 May 2013, 12:19:06
What is it about us obsessive types? 

Do I wet Shave?  OF COURSE I WET SHAVE.

Wilkinson Swords - the only blade that touches my sweet face.

Also - Prorasso is great for making sure I get a clean shave with no burn every time.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: nar on Thu, 09 May 2013, 14:28:04
Prorasso is also great for ensuring that you actually get lather when lathering in what is possibly the hardest water in the entire country, I believe my city's water department is now a leading authority on testing water softeners =_=.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: The_Beast on Thu, 09 May 2013, 14:41:45
What's the best kind of hair for a brush? Badger hair?


Any interest in custom turned brushes out of domestic or exotic hardwoods?
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 09 May 2013, 14:44:25
What's the best kind of hair for a brush? Badger hair?


Any interest in custom turned brushes out of domestic or exotic hardwoods?

Interest!

...and badger hair. :)

Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: JPG on Thu, 09 May 2013, 14:46:28
What's the best kind of hair for a brush? Badger hair?


Any interest in custom turned brushes out of domestic or exotic hardwoods?

I have no brush yet (have not received mine yet), but from what I read, badger is better because it is easier to make a lather (incorporate air faster or something like that). Still, it's a personal choice. Also, there are different quality of badger hair (pure, best, silver, others?). Some are stiffer, some have the silver tip (esthetic), but in the end I never tried one so I can't tell. If I was to buy one right now, from what I have read and for the price, I would choose "best badger hair" because they are supposed to be more firm and I think I would prefer that.
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Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: The_Beast on Thu, 09 May 2013, 23:19:17
I looked into it a bit and I can get grade "A", "AAA", and "silver tip" in badger hair. I didn't see and boar hair or synthetic brushes.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: sth on Thu, 09 May 2013, 23:35:42
clearly whatever costs the most is the best, as is the opinion in most consumer 'hobbies' for dudes with cash to blow
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 10 May 2013, 04:39:21
Man esoomenona, you're just a fountain of info when it comes to shaving.
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Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Badwrench on Sat, 11 May 2013, 16:00:19
Just picked up Prorasso soap.  Very nice change from cream.  Didn't even need my normal pre-shave oil.  Nice menthol feeling during the shave is very nice.  Looking forward to trying some Feathers that i just ordered as well.   ;D
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: JaccoW on Sat, 11 May 2013, 16:54:12
I have been using a Parker 86R butterfly (http://www.supersafetyrazors.com/Parker-86R-Butterfly-Open-Double-Edge/M/B0019LSBGO.htm) Double Edged saftey razor. So much smoother than those ridiculous cartridge razors and eventually a lot less blood too, LOL.
For those little burns and bleeders there is always alum (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Styptic_pencils).

I love, love stick soaps. The ones I have from Calani (http://www.calani-seifenmanufaktur.de/) are not being made anymore unfortunately but I have an adress that still has them. Still, one sticks lasts me close to a year so I am not complaining.
Was looking for a way to bring this way of shaving with me while traveling, so I bought a travel brush with me. No idea what hair it is. But it smells horribly, like ass. :D
(http://i.imgur.com/MKS81Fi.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: The_Beast on Sat, 11 May 2013, 17:15:27
I looked into it a bit and I can get grade "A", "AAA", and "silver tip" in badger hair. I didn't see and boar hair or synthetic brushes.

Are you looking for knots separately, or for brushes?

I'd be buying the brushes (I think this is what you're calling a knot, but I'm not sure) and making the handles.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: codymaust on Sat, 11 May 2013, 17:22:57
I got my first DE about 3 months ago, a Merkur. I've been using Feather blades since the original Merkur dulled. Had quite a few blood baths O_O

Using some hand made bay rum soap from a local shop that my GF got me a little while ago, works really well!

Shaving is enjoyable now though. I actually find the process very soothing...

I need to get a new pack of blades soon, and can't resist another razor haha
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: jwaz on Sat, 11 May 2013, 17:42:01
I was talking to my local barber about DE razor shaving and he suggested Feather as it was his razor of choice. He noted though, that they are not sharper, as I had heard, but instead they were flexier blades.

I'm apprehensive to start with Feather blades, from what I've gathered you can slice yourself pretty bad with them if you aren't careful and so far have had zero issue with the Merkur blades I got at the local shaving/ knife shop.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: E TwentyNine on Sat, 11 May 2013, 17:48:15
I was talking to my local barber about DE razor shaving and he suggested Feather as it was his razor of choice. He noted though, that they are not sharper, as I had heard, but instead they were flexier blades.

I'm apprehensive to start with Feather blades, from what I've gathered you can slice yourself pretty bad with them if you aren't careful.

Don't start with Feathers.

It's been a while since I compared, but I think Feathers are actually thinner (which I suppose would make them flexier).   Whatever the reason, the end result is they are not as forgiving of bad technique.  I would suspect your local barber has his technique down quite well.

Get yourself a sampler pack of blades.  They'll be some crap in there, but you'll have a good selection of options to choose from and your favorite may not be what someone else would choose.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: JPG on Sat, 11 May 2013, 18:21:14
I looked into it a bit and I can get grade "A", "AAA", and "silver tip" in badger hair. I didn't see and boar hair or synthetic brushes.

Are you looking for knots separately, or for brushes?

I'd be buying the brushes (I think this is what you're calling a knot, but I'm not sure) and making the handles.

The "knot" is the hair with no handle.

Here's a link I found (first google link I found, no experience with it at all):  http://thegoldennib.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=9_42
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Glissant on Sun, 12 May 2013, 00:33:51
Going from Gillette to a safety razor was an insanely fun thing to do. Trying a straight razor was even crazier. I really can't imagine much more manly things than removing your manly facial hair with a razor sharp knife.
My next acquisition will surely be a straight razor or two, but that will have to wait a couple months as traveling with a straight razor might prove to be difficult xD.

Which reminds me; does anyone have anything to say about what to try if I always end up with bumps/cuts on throat? I just can't seem to avoid it there. 
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: The_Beast on Sun, 12 May 2013, 00:35:20
I really can't imagine much more manly things than removing your manly facial hair with a razor sharp knife.

An axe

you lose

Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: SmallFry on Sun, 12 May 2013, 00:36:26
I realized that my shaving technique just needed a bit of lotion post-shave. For the better or the worse, I shan't be investing my money in wetshaving.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Glissant on Sun, 12 May 2013, 00:38:40
I really can't imagine much more manly things than removing your manly facial hair with a razor sharp knife.

An axe

you lose



Since I am half French half Norwegian you will have to excuse my poor grammatical prowess. I meant to say that I couldn't imagine many more manly things. Shaving with an axe or a chainsaw are a couple of said "more" things.
Now be helpful or go get the package I sent you!
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: The_Beast on Sun, 12 May 2013, 00:40:42
I really can't imagine much more manly things than removing your manly facial hair with a razor sharp knife.

An axe

you lose



Since I am half French half Norwegian you will have to excuse my poor grammatical prowess. I meant to say that I couldn't imagine many more manly things. Shaving with an axe or a chainsaw are a couple of said "more" things.
Now be helpful or go get the package I sent you!

I'll get it soon, have finals and stuff to do
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Glissant on Sun, 12 May 2013, 00:41:59

Best of luck though =D.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: PointyFox on Sun, 12 May 2013, 21:27:44
Going from Gillette to a safety razor was an insanely fun thing to do. Trying a straight razor was even crazier. I really can't imagine much more manly things than removing your manly facial hair with a razor sharp knife.
My next acquisition will surely be a straight razor or two, but that will have to wait a couple months as traveling with a straight razor might prove to be difficult xD.

Which reminds me; does anyone have anything to say about what to try if I always end up with bumps/cuts on throat? I just can't seem to avoid it there. 

Straight razor shaving is much easier than it appears to be.  You can angle the blade up to like 40 degrees without cutting yourself; providing you don't press too hard.
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Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Internetlad on Mon, 13 May 2013, 16:31:39
I've wanted to learn shaving with a straight razor for a while, but the start up cost combined with the time taken, possibility of serious injuries on myself or one of my sons who get ahold of it, and I've stuck with buying safety razors in bulk. it's that pricey one from gilette, I can't remember which one. We just buy the bulk packs from costco, I think it's 50 or 60 bucks for 24 heads, which isn't bad considering I can usually get a couple of weeks out of each (Generally shave 3 times per week)
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Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Internetlad on Mon, 13 May 2013, 17:38:55
http://whippeddog.com/products/view/sight-unseen-flawed-razor

That's actually a really tempting deal. I've got a lot of potential irons in the fire, but i'll note that as it's right up my alley.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: dndlmx on Mon, 13 May 2013, 21:01:38
I'm interested in a Merkur piece, any recommendations for a specific model? Never used a DE before...
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: PointyFox on Mon, 13 May 2013, 21:36:23
I'm interested in a Merkur piece, any recommendations for a specific model? Never used a DE before...

Depends on your preferences for handle length, weight, and if you want a slant bar or not.  If you have a thick beard or prefer duller blades, you may want to use a slant bar.  If you have sensitive skin, thin beard, or use sharp blades like Feathers you may want the regular head.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: dndlmx on Mon, 13 May 2013, 21:57:25
I've heard of the Feather blades, they sound scary. I have extremely sensitive skin and, I guess, beard more on the thin side. So perhaps slant bar isn't for me.

I was given a pack of "Wilkinson" blades, I was hoping to use these. I'm not sure how good, or how sharp they are. Hope I don't hurt myself.  :-[
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Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: emptyk on Tue, 14 May 2013, 14:57:26
They're not sharper than other blades.

I pretty much agree with everything you said except for the quoted part. Feather blades are sharper than most other blades, and that's close to a universal and absolute truth. I've found nothing that is sharper. I've found nothing that is comparable. That said, I agree that "there is no need to be scared of Feather blades." Conversely, I'd be scared of cheap and less-sharp blades.

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Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 14 May 2013, 15:34:36
I've seen some brushes with badger hair today with prices between 10 and 30€. They seemed to be barely any softer than my boar brush (I actually like a rougher brush btw.). However in the internet shop I bought my stuff from badger brushes go from 70 up to 300€. What's that all about?
I mean sure, the cheap ones are probably lower quality, but I don't understand this huge price span when both are badger...
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Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 14 May 2013, 15:47:23
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Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: dndlmx on Tue, 14 May 2013, 17:47:08
Any opinion on plastic (or bakelite) safety razors?

(http://www.bruceonshaving.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Wilkinson-Sword-Classic-Double-Edged-Razor-3.jpg)

Supposedly it teaches bad habits, because you should "let the weight of the razor" do the cutting.  :-X
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: JPG on Tue, 14 May 2013, 20:06:55
I just got my Dreadnought shaving kit today and I must say that I am impressed by the difference from using plain old can shaving cream. I still only have my gilette crap razor, but using a pre-shave oil, wet shaving cream and after-shave made a HUGE difference. It was "sliding" more easily while shaving and 2-3 minutes after applying the after-shave cream I FELT the difference. The skin was much smoother and less irritated.

Pics are on the "what you got in the mail" topic.
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Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 14 May 2013, 20:12:11
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Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: dndlmx on Tue, 14 May 2013, 20:19:03
Wondering if I should get one.

I prefer plastic to metal, my skin's sensitive to touching metal for long periods. I was actually gonna use some heatshrink around the handle, if I bought a Merkur.  :-X
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Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: dndlmx on Tue, 14 May 2013, 20:26:23
It looks pretty nice, has good reviews on Amazon. Thanks dude, I'll keep this one in mind.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: jabar on Tue, 14 May 2013, 20:27:10
Are Merkur's still in? I shave with a 39C with Astra blades. :)
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Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: PointyFox on Tue, 14 May 2013, 20:52:33
I use a De87bl.  Also slant bar razors cut better, but are also more likely to cut you and give you razor burn; which is why I said that they're for tough beards or dull blades like Derby.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: E TwentyNine on Tue, 14 May 2013, 20:55:46
I use a De87bl.  Also slant bar razors cut better, but are also more likely to cut you and give you razor burn; which is why I said that they're for tough beards or dull blades like Derby.

Anyone thinking about getting a slant should try the different techniques known as the gillette slide or the J-hook first.  You don't pull the razor straight and you get some of the guillotine effect you get with a slant.
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Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: PointyFox on Tue, 14 May 2013, 21:26:05
Some blades are obviously sharp and some are obviously dull.  Like Feather vs. Derby.  I don't think anyone who's tried them disputes that.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: quickcrx702 on Wed, 15 May 2013, 03:32:02
I was talking to my local barber about DE razor shaving and he suggested Feather as it was his razor of choice. He noted though, that they are not sharper, as I had heard, but instead they were flexier blades.

I'm apprehensive to start with Feather blades, from what I've gathered you can slice yourself pretty bad with them if you aren't careful.


Don't start with Feathers.

It's been a while since I compared, but I think Feathers are actually thinner (which I suppose would make them flexier).   Whatever the reason, the end result is they are not as forgiving of bad technique.  I would suspect your local barber has his technique down quite well.

Get yourself a sampler pack of blades.  They'll be some crap in there, but you'll have a good selection of options to choose from and your favorite may not be what someone else would choose.

Seconded.  I use a Merkur Futur set to six and Feather blade, and get PERFECT shaves with no cuts.  I only shave my head, because I don't grow hair on my cheeks and like my mustache and chin hair.  When I first got my Futur and sampler pack, I started on six with a feather.  I've been shaving my head for years, so I figured I know how to shave.  HUGE mistake, my head looked and felt like I shaved with a cheese grater.  It is completely different than a cartridge razor where you have to apply pressure to get a good shave.  I gradually worked my way up from a Derby set to one to perfect my technique, then to other blades at three, back up to a six with feather.  Use the feather when your technique is perfect and you will be happy, but if you try it before then make sure you have a steptic pencil LOL because you WILL need it.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: dndlmx on Wed, 15 May 2013, 06:12:05
That Futur is like the HHKB for DE razors, haha.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Glissant on Wed, 15 May 2013, 17:23:50
I could have sworn that I already posted this in here, but I might not have because it's a pretty bad picture.
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My little Futur setup. I really enjoy the lavender soap. Pure badger chrome handle brush. I use Feather DE blades because I like that close to the soul-shave.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: PointyFox on Wed, 15 May 2013, 17:24:09
It amazes me that people can cut themselves with a safety razor.  I've only cut myself once by smacking it into my face at an extreme angle.  Well, I've only used my Edwin Jaggar shaver.  Maybe it's just awesome like that.
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Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: quickcrx702 on Wed, 15 May 2013, 22:14:26
It amazes me that people can cut themselves with a safety razor.  I've only cut myself once by smacking it into my face at an extreme angle.  Well, I've only used my Edwin Jaggar shaver.  Maybe it's just awesome like that.

I would agree that cutting your face would probably not be too big of an issue if you start with a normal blade.  However, try using a feather blade in an aggressive razor, and shave parts that you can't see, like the back of your head.  It glides so smoothly, that you don't even notice that you sliced yourself until you see all the blood in the sink along with pieces of skin.  Using cartridge razors for years trained me to apply pressure to my scalp, which with feathers isn't the smartest thing to do.  Derby blades on the other hand are REALLY hard to cut yourself with, but you can feel how dull it is if your hair is thick.  It tugs your hair, and isn't smooth or enjoyable to shave with, but it gets the job done without leaving a pool of blood.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Badwrench on Thu, 16 May 2013, 17:43:51
Oh man, where have these Feathers been all my life!?  I have never had such a good shave before without any tugging or irritation.  Should have gotten rid of the Merkurs long ago. 

Currently just using hot water with the Proraso shave soap.  Combined with the Feathers, my thick hair doesn't stand a chance!
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: godly_music on Mon, 20 May 2013, 15:23:36
You can get fine Solingen straight razors for 65€ upwards. That's not so much considering they last a lifetime.

I was high on adrenaline before my first shave. It's not that hard though. The fact that there actually is a long learning curve makes it a very satisfying experience.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: PointyFox on Mon, 20 May 2013, 19:19:53
Not sure what a € is, maybe a croissant; but refurbished old ones sell for like $20-$45.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: dndlmx on Mon, 20 May 2013, 21:24:36
How does this (http://www.amazon.com/The-Art-Shaving-Collection-Manual/dp/B001GI6LTO/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1369102887&sr=8-5&keywords=fusion+handle) make you feel? Or perhaps this (http://www.amazon.com/Genuine-Handle-Fusion-Compatible-Razor/dp/B005E1BHB6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1369102887&sr=8-1&keywords=fusion+handle)?  ^-^
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: quickcrx702 on Tue, 21 May 2013, 00:43:53
I want a straight razor... but sadly I know I'll never have time to use it.  I'm usually rushing in the morning, so I wouldn't have time to be careful shaving my head with one.  With really sharp razors, "shaving" + "in a hurry" = lots of blood dripping into the sink, so I'd have to pass.  It probably wouldn't be too bad if all you had to shave was your face though, and would make you feel like a real badass.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: quickcrx702 on Tue, 21 May 2013, 00:46:43
How does this (http://www.amazon.com/The-Art-Shaving-Collection-Manual/dp/B001GI6LTO/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1369102887&sr=8-5&keywords=fusion+handle) make you feel? Or perhaps this (http://www.amazon.com/Genuine-Handle-Fusion-Compatible-Razor/dp/B005E1BHB6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1369102887&sr=8-1&keywords=fusion+handle)?  ^-^

I know it's blasphemy if you ask hardcore shaving geeks, but there is nothing wrong with a Mach 3 or Fusion if you don't mind pissing tons of money away.  They get the job done, they just don't shave quite as smoothly and they get gunked up constantly.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: E TwentyNine on Tue, 21 May 2013, 07:37:28
How does this (http://www.amazon.com/The-Art-Shaving-Collection-Manual/dp/B001GI6LTO/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1369102887&sr=8-5&keywords=fusion+handle) make you feel? Or perhaps this (http://www.amazon.com/Genuine-Handle-Fusion-Compatible-Razor/dp/B005E1BHB6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1369102887&sr=8-1&keywords=fusion+handle)?  ^-^

I know it's blasphemy if you ask hardcore shaving geeks, but there is nothing wrong with a Mach 3 or Fusion if you don't mind pissing tons of money away.  They get the job done, they just don't shave quite as smoothly and they get gunked up constantly.

And they're not as close.  The whole "Art of Shaving" brand is an attempt by Gillette to cash in on the retro shaving comeback of recent years.  To include Mach3 and electric razor products under that banner is silly.  Come on, $90 for a Mach 3 handle?
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Internetlad on Wed, 22 May 2013, 18:27:07
It amazes me that people can cut themselves with a safety razor.  I've only cut myself once by smacking it into my face at an extreme angle.  Well, I've only used my Edwin Jaggar shaver.  Maybe it's just awesome like that.

I regularly nick my upper lip and sometimes the mole on my chin with an off-the-shelf gilette fusion. Only those two places though. I have no clue why my upper lip always gets nicked but it's almost inevitable.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: sth on Wed, 22 May 2013, 18:31:11
How does this (http://www.amazon.com/The-Art-Shaving-Collection-Manual/dp/B001GI6LTO/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1369102887&sr=8-5&keywords=fusion+handle) make you feel? Or perhaps this (http://www.amazon.com/Genuine-Handle-Fusion-Compatible-Razor/dp/B005E1BHB6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1369102887&sr=8-1&keywords=fusion+handle)?  ^-^

I know it's blasphemy if you ask hardcore shaving geeks, but there is nothing wrong with a Mach 3 or Fusion if you don't mind pissing tons of money away.  They get the job done, they just don't shave quite as smoothly and they get gunked up constantly.

And they're not as close.  The whole "Art of Shaving" brand is an attempt by Gillette to cash in on the retro shaving comeback of recent years.  To include Mach3 and electric razor products under that banner is silly.  Come on, $90 for a Mach 3 handle?
the whole resurgence of retro shaving is an attempt to cash in on dorks... and it's working.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Tarzan on Thu, 23 May 2013, 07:38:26
Oh man, where have these Feathers been all my life!?  I have never had such a good shave before without any tugging or irritation.  Should have gotten rid of the Merkurs long ago. 

Currently just using hot water with the Proraso shave soap.  Combined with the Feathers, my thick hair doesn't stand a chance!

I got in some sample packs of Gillette 7 O'clock green and Feather blades last week.  Tried the Gillette blades first, they were... okay, but didn't really give a very close shave.  Easy to shave with, I didn't worry about cuts or nicks, but felt kind of dull right out of the package.

Tried a Feather blade this morning, world of difference.  Very nice shave, even on the most conservative blade setting.  Highly recommended for tough beard!
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Badwrench on Thu, 23 May 2013, 10:17:48
How does this (http://www.amazon.com/The-Art-Shaving-Collection-Manual/dp/B001GI6LTO/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1369102887&sr=8-5&keywords=fusion+handle) make you feel? Or perhaps this (http://www.amazon.com/Genuine-Handle-Fusion-Compatible-Razor/dp/B005E1BHB6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1369102887&sr=8-1&keywords=fusion+handle)?  ^-^

I know it's blasphemy if you ask hardcore shaving geeks, but there is nothing wrong with a Mach 3 or Fusion if you don't mind pissing tons of money away.  They get the job done, they just don't shave quite as smoothly and they get gunked up constantly.

And they're not as close.  The whole "Art of Shaving" brand is an attempt by Gillette to cash in on the retro shaving comeback of recent years.  To include Mach3 and electric razor products under that banner is silly.  Come on, $90 for a Mach 3 handle?
the whole resurgence of retro shaving is an attempt to cash in on dorks... and it's working.

I agree.  My kit came from Art of Shaving in San Diego, and I was def. sold on the amount of tinkering and preciseness of the process (so many different options to get the same basic result).  Luckily, mine was a gift (I didn't pay the hiked price for my Merkur), but now that I know more, have found much cheaper and better options.  Also, replacing blades on a standard razer (Mach 3/4) is stupid expensive and they don't last long no matter how you take care of them. 
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: stingrae on Mon, 27 May 2013, 01:42:51
I managed to find a DE razor (by Lion, a matchstick maker in south africa) for very cheap (~£1.50, R20) the blades it came with don't seem to be very good (then again neither am I!) but there are some alternates I'm trying tomorrow. I'm still rubbish with a DE razor was cutting myself trying to get hair on the jaw line/chin.

Hmm so today I tried something a little different. I shaved with coconut oil instead of trying gel/foam/soap. Was so much easier to shave got a decent shave and it was quicker and only a small insignificant cut. I imagine olive oil would work as well.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: PointyFox on Tue, 28 May 2013, 23:22:50
I managed to find a DE razor (by Lion, a matchstick maker in south africa) for very cheap (~£1.50, R20) the blades it came with don't seem to be very good (then again neither am I!) but there are some alternates I'm trying tomorrow. I'm still rubbish with a DE razor was cutting myself trying to get hair on the jaw line/chin.

Hmm so today I tried something a little different. I shaved with coconut oil instead of trying gel/foam/soap. Was so much easier to shave got a decent shave and it was quicker and only a small insignificant cut. I imagine olive oil would work as well.


There are commercially available shaving oil like Secret Shave which use tea tree oil.  Some oils may give you acne.  Remember to keep the angle of the razor to your face just large enough that it shaves.  You don't want the angle too large.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Bratman on Thu, 30 May 2013, 05:25:35
I always use Feather blades, got a Mekur (the one with the short handle and yellow tip). I was shaving the other day and my friend was watching, I had a huge beard and once long stroke down my cheek to my neck left a smooth bald patch of skin with one stroke. He couldn't believe his eyes! (he hasn't bought a saftey razer yet).
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: typo on Sun, 02 June 2013, 16:49:47
I normally use a boker Damascus straight or artist club Japanese. however, I can get 30 shaves per side with wilkinsons in an asd1. take that Gillette! it is because a dull blade does not get as dull as a sharp blade and the asd1 does not expose much blade. pair that with a high mountain badger,saras scuttle and aqua di parma....I guess Gillette sort of won after all lol.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: jwaz on Sun, 02 June 2013, 16:51:31
the whole resurgence of retro shaving is an attempt to cash in on dorks... and it's working.

Get outta here you cynic  :-*
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: sth on Sun, 02 June 2013, 18:32:51
the whole resurgence of retro shaving is an attempt to cash in on dorks... and it's working.

Get outta here you cynic  :-*


i've been wetshaving for a minute. never said i wasn't a dork :P
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: PointyFox on Sun, 02 June 2013, 18:49:33
Protip: Don't buy Derby.  Most reviews you'll find are several years old.  They used to be good then.  Their QC has since gone to hell.  Same with Wilkinson Sword.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: sth on Sun, 02 June 2013, 18:51:14
Protip: Don't buy Derby.  Most reviews you'll find are several years old.  They used to be good then.  Their QC has since gone to hell.  Same with Wilkinson Sword.

i still prefer derby to any multi-blade razor. it's not so bad if you strop them a little bit on your jeans or something. just ordered a 10 pack of feather blades because what the hell... i'll see if there's a big enough difference for me to justify the cost.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: PointyFox on Sun, 02 June 2013, 18:53:41
Protip: Don't buy Derby.  Most reviews you'll find are several years old.  They used to be good then.  Their QC has since gone to hell.  Same with Wilkinson Sword.

i still prefer derby to any multi-blade razor. it's not so bad if you strop them a little bit on your jeans or something. just ordered a 10 pack of feather blades because what the hell... i'll see if there's a big enough difference for me to justify the cost.

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Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: sth on Sun, 02 June 2013, 19:01:13
sth, how many blades have you tried?

just a few, i bought a big thing of derby blades on amazon because my roommate got a super cheap safety handle and both of us only shave a few times a week... both of us use safety razors for the cost above everything else. i just happen to have a fancy handle cause my dad is good at goodwill scores and had one around the house for looks.
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Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: sth on Sun, 02 June 2013, 19:08:43
If you're interested in trying out more blades than Feather and Derby, PM me your address and some sort of information about blades such that I'll remmeber when I'm not drunk, and I'll send you a bunch to try out.

ygpm, thanks :)
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: PointyFox on Sun, 02 June 2013, 19:29:20
If anyone wants to buy something from me I'll throw in 90 Derby DE blades for $3.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: velvetdon25 on Fri, 19 July 2013, 01:43:27
Here's my simple but effective wet shaving set up. I have rather sensitive skin and this combo has left me "shave burn" free for quite some time now.

Get badger hair instead of boar hair if you can, makes a world of difference.

Moose, you have inspired me to add more to my shaving collection now.

BTW any fragrance enthusiasts around here or from BN? lol
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Poom on Fri, 19 July 2013, 03:31:32
I wetshave with L'occitane soap and brush, but I changed the razer to electric razer, Braun series 3, that is my preferred choice now. no more burns and very close shave, and save so much time.
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Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 19 July 2013, 11:43:59
My shaving equipment as of late (travel version):

Limited Edition iKon open comb razor (#26)
Simpsons Wee Scot (tiny brush that packs much lathering power; nice for face lathering)
Geo F. Trumpers Coconut (I like the scent, but I much prefer Simpsons Luxury cream; I'm only using this because I ran out of the other)
Bath House Spanish Fig and Nutmeg ASB (I absolutely love this scent; amazing!)

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Dat lather, foo'!



that moose is rabid!!!!
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Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 19 July 2013, 13:16:37
http://rapgenius.com/Kendrick-lamar-maad-city-lyrics#note-1142948

do not make me get into this moose
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Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: JPG on Fri, 19 July 2013, 13:38:58
I just ordered my first straight razor. Went out of my mind (and budget) ... but I hope (yea I really do), that I wont buy another for at LEAST 10 years! I hope it wont get like keyboards...

The razor is a Robert Williams "custom" 7/8 chopper with a smoke acrylic scale. Can't wait to get this!
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: BlueBär on Sat, 20 July 2013, 08:39:37
Why no love for boar brushes? :(

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Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: bueller on Tue, 23 July 2013, 05:22:22
Another member here :)

Started about 2 years ago as I was sick of paying $5 a blade for Mach3's locally. Got myself a '59 Gillette Fatboy, Proraso Cream & After Shave with 100x Astra Superior Platinum's and I haven't looked back! Now i'm paying 19c a blade and throwing them out after each use hahaha
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Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Badwrench on Tue, 23 July 2013, 18:28:19
I shave for about a week or so per blade...

With the Feathers, I am going about 4-5 shaves per blade.  The Merkur blades seemed to be good for only a couple shaves for me. 
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: JPG on Tue, 23 July 2013, 18:31:26
I shave for about a week or so per blade...

With the Feathers, I am going about 4-5 shaves per blade.  The Merkur blades seemed to be good for only a couple shaves for me.

Isn't 4-5 a couple?  :p :p
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Badwrench on Tue, 23 July 2013, 18:33:12
I shave for about a week or so per blade...

With the Feathers, I am going about 4-5 shaves per blade.  The Merkur blades seemed to be good for only a couple shaves for me.

Isn't 4-5 a couple?  :p :p

Nope, that is a few.   ;D
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: PointyFox on Tue, 23 July 2013, 19:34:13
The only good blades seem to be Feathers.  Derby used to be good but now it's terrible.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Dubsgalore on Tue, 23 July 2013, 19:47:33
moose i can't grow a beard yet
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Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 23 July 2013, 19:49:41
Hot glued spaghetti looks almost like a real beard. Try it!
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Dubsgalore on Tue, 23 July 2013, 19:50:07
I can get some scruff going but yea
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Tarzan on Wed, 24 July 2013, 07:31:52
The only good blades seem to be Feathers.  Derby used to be good but now it's terrible.

I consistently get about 5-7 shaves from the Feather blades, but trying the Gillette 7 o'clock blades I was tossing them after 2-3 shaves.  Plus the Feather blades give such a closer shave.  Found out the hard way that I can't use the same blade settings for both blade brands...   :rolleyes:

Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: sth on Wed, 24 July 2013, 17:00:32
The only good blades seem to be Feathers.  Derby used to be good but now it's terrible.

i'm not a big fan of feathers. i like the merkur ones but i dont have to shave more than 2x a week.


Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: n0rvig on Wed, 24 July 2013, 17:40:20
The only good blades seem to be Feathers.  Derby used to be good but now it's terrible.

I consistently get about 5-7 shaves from the Feather blades, but trying the Gillette 7 o'clock blades I was tossing them after 2-3 shaves.  Plus the Feather blades give such a closer shave.  Found out the hard way that I can't use the same blade settings for both blade brands...   :rolleyes:

So feather is both sharper and more durable? I have some Merkur blades right now.  I can get a pretty decent shave with them. I'm curious how the other blades compare.
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Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: tormentor on Wed, 24 July 2013, 21:08:56
From outside the thread, I kinda thought, "wtf wetshaving?" Now I feel compelled to try it. Thanks for the unique thread, keep them coming.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: vun on Wed, 24 July 2013, 21:46:59
I don't really grow a lot of facial hair, so I figured anything more complicated than a cartridge razor would be a waste of time and money.

A few months later I found myself in Italy, and in a store I happened to see some Proraso stuff there. I looked at how much it'd cost me to buy everything I needed, and I got pretty much everything and then some for about the price of the cheaper DE razors you can get here in Norway.
Not really needed, since a cartridge does just fine for my face, but I really enjoy the process, makes me feel better afterwards.

Now I'm looking at getting a proper badger brush, a metal razor, since the one I got was a cheap mostly plastic Wilkinson, a proper tub and a holder for the brush and razor.

So yeah, first fountain pens, now shaving. GH is really getting me into things I don't really have a need for.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: n0rvig on Thu, 25 July 2013, 00:42:06
Wrong! Wrong wrong wrong... IT'S ALL PREFERENCE! There are some people who prefer to use a new Feather every single time they shave because they don't like them the second time. There are some who use them for a month straight...

haha! FINE fine fine. But, you realize that means everyone has to try everything to learn their preference. Gosh, next thing I know I'm gonna have as many razors as I do keycaps.
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Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: CalmB4tehPwn on Sun, 28 July 2013, 18:36:31
Man, the longer I poke around GeekHack, the more I just feel at home.

Wetshaver here, have been for about 9 months. Started with straight razors, but switched to DEs when I got stationed in Korea 3 months back. I can't send anything out to get honed from here, and I just sort of gave up on figuring out my Jnat set. So DEs for now. Once I'm out of the Army and have more time to myself, I'll probably try my hand at honing again.

I've been using a Merkur Futur, but it's a bit aggressive for me. In the market for a Feather AS D1 currently, but I keep missing them on the classifieds.

I have to say, my favorite brush type is Horse Hair, as it's cruelty free, and a perfect compromise between boar and badger. It's just impossible to find anything in the shape and loft height I like. So I've got a rotation going between badger and horse.

I'm hunting for the perfect soap right now. I've got a few that I can lather up really well, but none of them strike a chord with me. I just purchased a few more, and they should arrive next week (APO, terrible shipping times)
I like RazoRock, I like Mystic Water, Wasn't a big fan of Tabac or MWF. I had this tin of no-name stuff, got it from a soap lot in the B&B forums. Lemongrass and Eucalyptus. Lathered like a dream, smelled like gold. But it was at like 15% when I got it, and I gave it to a friend, since he was interested, because I knew it'd be easy to lather. Unfortunately I don't think he ever used it, and we've sort of lost touch. I might just ask for it back.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: vun on Sun, 28 July 2013, 18:37:20
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/super-badger-brush

There's a Vulfix brush for sale massdrop, if anyone is interested. Less than 24 hrs left.
I've been considering getting in on it, since it's a decent price and free shipping, but then again I would prefer something with a metal handle.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: mtl on Sun, 28 July 2013, 19:07:43
British aluminum Gillete tech + Personna Isreli reds + Tabac soap + Edwin Jagger brush = :-D
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Danule on Thu, 22 August 2013, 14:26:46
Been thinking about ordering a Simpsons brush, anyone have any experience with these?

http://www.fendrihan.com/simpsons-emperor-super-badger-shaving-brush-p-1293.html?cPath=116_3_15
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Binge on Fri, 23 August 2013, 01:19:26
moose I need to tame my wilderness!  Advice?  Got a magic starter set that could save me some money whilst I test the waters?
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 23 August 2013, 10:53:59
Merkur 23C is a good beginner razor, a brush (don't get a cheap one, avoid plastic, go for boar or badger, boar is usually cheaper but rougher), some kind of mug, shaving cream, razor blades, after shave. Pretty much everything depends on taste. Popular blade brands are Personna and Feather, I have some shaving cream from Nivea which smells quite neutral which I prefer.
I have a small tutorial on page 2 which might help as well.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: MTManiac on Fri, 23 August 2013, 11:15:52
+9000 for wet shaving!

it's the only way to go, even if you have success with cartridge razors you'll LOVE wet shaving
can shave just as quickly if done right and every day and you get a smoother shave easier imo
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Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Feign on Fri, 23 August 2013, 11:48:53
Just got an Edwin Jagger DE86 set for my birthday and then i saw this thread. I don't have a lot to compare it to, but it's really nice. Has a good weight to the handle.

(http://shavenation.com/images/S81M8611%20EJ%20RAZOR%20SET%20EBONY%20n%20Logo.png)
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: MTManiac on Fri, 23 August 2013, 12:08:08
Just got an Edwin Jagger DE86 set for my birthday and then i saw this thread. I don't have a lot to compare it to, but it's really nice. Has a good weight to the handle.

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EJ is a very good brand, now all it looks like you need is some good cream and a ceramic bowl plus pre-shave oil and after-shave lotion, maybe a styptic pencil for mistakes :-p
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: MTManiac on Fri, 23 August 2013, 12:08:34
Ruthlessly stealing this wiki from Slickdeals

Things many believe you MUST have

    Razor
    Double edge blades
    Shave cream or soap
    Technique & Research [badgerandblade.com]

Things many believe you SHOULD have

    Brush (for "whipping" up cream, exfoliating the skin)
    Shave bowl (to assist in creating lather from cream/soap)
    Balm (to soothe your skin, totally worth it)

Things many people DO NOT need, but are fun

    Styptic pencil or alum block (you WILL nick yourself at some point)
    Pre-shave oil (helps to soften hair)
    Razor / brush stand (allows for easier drying, and looks awesome)
    Fancy shaving bowls
    Scuttles to keep your rich foam luxuriously warm
    20 different soaps and creams

BLADES

    DE blades range from about $0.08 to $0.30 each, and each blade will last you 3-5 complete shaves or so (depending on quality).
    It is a well-accepted fact in the DE community that blades behave differently on different skin. It is generally recommended to buy a customized sampler pack of several different brands to see what works with your skin (usually sellers will let you pick the brands you want to try). West coast shaving is a great source.

    $10 - 35 Blade sampler pack (Feather, Astra, Personna Red, Crystal, Derby) [westcoastshaving.com]
    $21 - 65 Blade sampler pack (Feather, Astra, Personna Red, Crystal, Derby, Merkur, Gillette, BIC, Dorco) [westcoastshaving.com]

    $8 - 100 Derby Blades (cheap and usable) [amazon.com]
    $12 - 100 Astra Platinum Blades [amazon.com] Well known, almost as sharp as Feather, may last longer than Feather.
    $15 - 50 Feather Blades - Gold standard and well known, highly-regarded as the sharpest, but also the most unforgiving [amazon.com].

CHANGING BLADES

    This is extremely important, and I speak from experience. When changing blades, you MUST be careful. You should always put the head of the razor upside down on the counter (with the handle pointed straight up), push downward (with the fingers on your weak hand) on the back of the head towards the counter while unscrewing the handle with your strong hand.
    DO NOT squeeze the sides of the head while unscrewing the handle. If you lose your grip, you WILL SERIOUSLY INJURE YOURSELF. Again, I'm speaking from experience. With cartridge razors you're typically never at risk of cutting yourself, with DE blades the risk is much greater. Do not form bad habits changing blades. You will regret it.

    Alternately, rest the long edge of the razor head on the counter with the handle sticking out over the edge and let the countertop hold the head while you twist the handle to tighten/loosen.

BRUSHES

    BOAR There's a big boar vs badger debate. Many people think a $15 Omega boar brush is better than any of the expensive badger brushes.

        $16 Omega Pro 48 [amazon.com] boar brush, used by pro italian barbers everywhere.
        $14 Omega Pro 49 [amazon.com] if you prefer a bit of color.
        And some great information on boars [bruceonshaving.com], and why should you try them.

    BADGER
    A decent badger brush will run you at least $20 (the Tweezerman on Amazon is bottom of the barrel as far as badger goes... "pure badger" means "badger hair that we've cut to make it curved". A decent quality badger brush will be "best badger" or "silvertip badger"), so most people prefer to save the money up front to make sure they'll stick with it.


        $13 Escali 100% Pure Badger Shaving Brush [amazon.com]
        $13 Tweezerman Pure Badger [amazon.com]
        $39 Parker Best Badger w/stand [amazon.com]

    SYNTHETIC

        $12 Body Shop Synthetic (Nylon) Brush [thebodyshop-usa.com]

SHAVE CREAM & SOAP

    $8 in stores, 4/$20 on Amazon Kiss My Face Moisture Shave [amazon.com] is another perennial favorite. It easily produces copious lather with a brush, also works well brushless. One of the best values ounce for ounce. Also popular as an additive to soaps for superlather. An 11 oz. pump bottle can last for several months.
    $35 for about 2 years worth of Cella [italianbarber.com], a well respected tallow based soap
    $11 Proraso [amazon.com] is a long time favorite from Florence, Italy. Smells great, produces amazing cream, and it's been around forever. They also produce the C. O. Bigelow cream sold at Bath & Body Works.
    $10-$20 depending where you get it. Taylor of Old Bond Street [amazon.com] is another favorite. It has many fragrances. You can't go wrong with Sandalwood or Avocado. Various websites often have deals on this brand that reach the FP.
    $4.50 or so when you buy three - Colonel Conk Bay Rum Soap which is one of the top sellers http://www.amazon.com/3-pack-2-25...B001OMVB38
    $2 Van der Hagen Glycerin Shave soap [drugstore.com]. This is slickdeals after all. You don't need to spend tons of money on expensive creams. (but you get what you pay for. this is like shaving with handsoap)
    $33 Tabac [amazon.com] is one of the more well-respected soaps. Definitely worth the money. Keep checking http://www.fragrancex.com/product...ducts.html for really good deal on Tabac shaving soap.
    $20 Edwin Jagger has a great line of soaps [amazon.com], most gents and ladies prefer sandalwood.
    $10-13 Mama Bears home made shaving soaps [mamabearssoaps.com]
    $9 Speick shaving stick [amazon.com] has a great smell, is good for travel, and it's tallow-based so truly SLICK.

AFTERSHAVE & BALM
Out of all the garbage we've bought because of mass production and marketing. A decent aftershave is something we probably already have. But here are some great options:

    About $5each - sold in a 4 pack on Amazon - Nivea has a great post shave balm [amazon.com] that a lot of people love. You can get it almost anywhere.
    $10 - Some people like Witch Hazel as an aftershave. Here's the alcohol-free version from Thayers [amazon.com]

BOWLS

    You can use anything for a bowl... maybe a coffee mug, cereal bowl, etc. Most gents prefer largish bowls... maybe 5in diameter, with curved sides. Ceramic bowls will retain heat better, which warms your cream. I use a wonderful ceramic bowl I snagged at a Goodwill for $1.

STYPTIC PENCILS & ALUM BLOCKS

    Styptic pencils are a spot treatment for more serious nicks, while alum blocks are used on the whole beard for razor burn and minor nicks.
    Styptic pencils are $1 at Walmart [walmart.com] (no plastic carry tube), or $3 at Walgreen's [walgreens.com] (with a plastic carry tube).
    Alum blocks can be found at some Turkish and Indian stores or at Amazon: Tulumba Barber Alum [amazon.com] or Bloc Osma Alum Block [amazon.com]

GET HELP

For your own safety you should seek information beyond this post/wiki. Please don't view the opinions in this wiki as fact. Please do not view the opinions in this post as expert. Please check out the following shaving forums and please only consider this wiki as a point to begin learning. And don't start buying/using anything until you do some real research on another site.

    The forums at Badger & Blade [badgerandblade.com] are your friend, as is the group at Wicked Edge [reddit.com].
    If you have a question about a product, it has been reviewed on B&B.
    If you have a question about technique, it has been discussed on B&B.
    If you have a question about where to buy what for the best price, the answer is on B&B.

    Mantic59's YouTube channel [youtube.com] has amazing videos for all levels of wetshavers, particularly newbies that know nothing.
    Go here to find out how to make proper brush lather, proper shave technique, proper blade angle, etc. He's a master.
    Sharpologist [sharpologist.com] is a website started by the same guy with info on shaving, along with other grooming topics.

Please note that DE razors should be disposed of safely in a closed, sealed container). They sell blade banks on Amazon and other places fairly cheap. <-- The dispensers for feather (and other) blades have a compartment on the back for used blades. Most pharmacies will accept DE razors for disposal with their other sharps. Please do not simply throw them away! They are a hazard to humans and the environment.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: E TwentyNine on Fri, 23 August 2013, 12:26:42
CHANGING BLADES

    This is extremely important, and I speak from experience. When changing blades, you MUST be careful. You should always put the head of the razor upside down on the counter (with the handle pointed straight up), push downward (with the fingers on your weak hand) on the back of the head towards the counter while unscrewing the handle with your strong hand.
    DO NOT squeeze the sides of the head while unscrewing the handle. If you lose your grip, you WILL SERIOUSLY INJURE YOURSELF. Again, I'm speaking from experience. With cartridge razors you're typically never at risk of cutting yourself, with DE blades the risk is much greater. Do not form bad habits changing blades. You will regret it.

What's that now?

(http://i.imgur.com/am0CIa4.jpg)

 :D
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: MTManiac on Fri, 23 August 2013, 12:30:44
CHANGING BLADES

    This is extremely important, and I speak from experience. When changing blades, you MUST be careful. You should always put the head of the razor upside down on the counter (with the handle pointed straight up), push downward (with the fingers on your weak hand) on the back of the head towards the counter while unscrewing the handle with your strong hand.
    DO NOT squeeze the sides of the head while unscrewing the handle. If you lose your grip, you WILL SERIOUSLY INJURE YOURSELF. Again, I'm speaking from experience. With cartridge razors you're typically never at risk of cutting yourself, with DE blades the risk is much greater. Do not form bad habits changing blades. You will regret it.

What's that now?

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/am0CIa4.jpg)


 :D

oh sure brag...
very nice model, is that from the 60's?
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Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: E TwentyNine on Fri, 23 August 2013, 12:46:33
oh sure brag...
very nice model, is that from the 60's?

That's just an image I picked up off google.   I have several Gillette's from the 60's and 70's.

They're cheap to get too, you should have no problem finding them for $5 or less at someplace like a flea market, and on eBay they regularly sell for under $25, sometimes cheaper.
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Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: PointyFox on Mon, 26 August 2013, 03:16:36
I have two Fat Boys, a Black Beauty adjustable, and a black handled Super Speed. You can see them in this image: http://i.imgur.com/fZHbHh.jpg

The Fat Boys are in the plastic cases, the Super Speed is hanging to the far left, and the Adjustable is laying on it's side, pointing to the right.

You also have a Edwin Jagger de87 there :P
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: meiosis on Mon, 26 August 2013, 04:00:10
I'm Asian so I shave every 3-5 months, hopefully someday I can join this thread :|.


Isn't a straight razor the best for close shaves?
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: BlueBär on Mon, 26 August 2013, 05:36:16
Isn't a straight razor the best for close shaves?

Probably, but it is also a lot easier to cut yourself with it and probably needs more training as well. I can do a quick shave in a hurry with my safety razor without cutting myself, but I wouldn't want to do it with a straight razor.
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Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: JPG on Mon, 26 August 2013, 10:27:10
Hey, I got my first straight razor like 2 weeks ago, was super happy so I tried it the same day. I only prepared for wetshaving, took the razor out of the box and shaved with it. But it was dull and got more dull after doing half my face.

I contacted the company where I got it from and they are going to rehone it and even send me a cheap one to train on. I talked to the guy and also read more on razor forums and I am now 99% sure I did something wrong even if I was very careful.

I did many errors I think, here they are:

1. I did not remove the oil on the blade before using it
2. I put the blade down on a towel before starting, and maybe the blade touched the towel and it might have been enough to dull it.
3. I had a 4-5 days beard. I don't like to shave very often so I always to that, but after reading it seems I should not do that until I am more proficient with the razor.
4. My lack of technique might have dulled it more during the shave.

Still, even if I was pissed after that shave, I still managed to somewhat get used to put it on my face and get a better feeling of the motion (I was very persistent and shave for like 45 min before giving up). And even if my face was badly burned (more so since I had a small sunburn that I realized after), well I did't get anything close to a bad cut (ok, the alum kinda burned, but I was all ok after a few hours).

So even if I am supposed to talk to the guy at the razor shop before shaving again when I receive it, I would be very grateful if someone experienced could give me some tips of what to do and what not to do for a beginner so that I don't end ruining my edged a second time. I know that the first time I strop is going to be a challenge, but as long as I get at least a good shave the first time, I don't mind having to learn it in the long run.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: godly_music on Mon, 26 August 2013, 23:10:11
I would assume instead that the razor they sent you was not shaving sharp. This happens A LOT more than you'd think, even with some products from Solingen manufacture. Resting the razor sideways on a towel, not wiping off oil or having a beard (even a full beard) are no showstoppers for a perfect shave. You can't shave long hair with a system razor, but straight razors do it without a hiccup. I wouldn't worry; you most likely didn't ruin the edge. It simply came dull.

Yes, bad technique will dull the blade a bit faster than good technique, but ultimately every shave will put wear on it. You need 3 things here: Leather strop to straighten the edge before every shave (not afterwards, let the edge rest for at least 1-2 days after a shave), another strop with some very fine polishing paste (I use an old leather belt with chromium oxide paste) that you'll use ONCE when blade sharpness cannot be restored to satisfaction by a simple strop anymore, and finally a very fine stone to sharpen it on, if you ever **** your blade up. 6000 Japanese grit and upwards, this is basically the coarsest you'll ever use on a straight razor.

I haven't had my straight razor that long yet, but I can get 10-15 good shaves and strops out of it before I have to paste polish it once. But the number can be as low as 8 or as high as.. dozens. Some people think paste is a travesty, but they usually have various sharpening stones to make up for it. Stropping technique is also very important, you can ruin an edge with too much pressure.

The proper way to strop is to hold onto the metal bit below the blade with index finger and thumb on the sides (no hard pressure from the top!). Lay it flat on its side against the leather so that the spine as well as the edge equally and lightly touch the leather. Then drag it slowly (speed comes when you've got the technique down) in the direction of the spine. You'll hear a distinct, light sound telling you that the edge is being stroked. Most strops are not wide enough to accomodate a full blade, so you'll strop slightly diagonally to make sure the full edge is being stropped. When done with a stroke, turn it around 180° with the blade turning upwards and repeat the stroke in the other direction. You don't have to pull too hard on the strop, just lean back a bit and let your bodyweight keep it straight. The big thing is to find out how light of a touch is light enough so you work the blade without doing harm to it. I usually do about 20 strokes for each side, but YMMV. Still learning all this myself.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: JPG on Mon, 26 August 2013, 23:23:57
I would assume instead that the razor they sent you was not shaving sharp. This happens A LOT more than you'd think, even with some products from Solingen manufacture. Resting the razor sideways on a towel, not wiping off oil or having a beard (even a full beard) are no showstoppers for a perfect shave. You can't shave long hair with a system razor, but straight razors do it without a hiccup. I wouldn't worry; you most likely didn't ruin the edge. It simply came dull.

Yes, bad technique will dull the blade a bit faster than good technique, but ultimately every shave will put wear on it. You need 3 things here: Leather strop to straighten the edge before every shave (not afterwards, let the edge rest for at least 1-2 days after a shave), another strop with some very fine polishing paste (I use an old leather belt with chromium oxide paste) that you'll use ONCE when blade sharpness cannot be restored to satisfaction by a simple strop anymore, and finally a very fine stone to sharpen it on, if you ever **** your blade up. 6000 Japanese grit and upwards, this is basically the coarsest you'll ever use on a straight razor.

I haven't had my straight razor that long yet, but I can get 10-15 good shaves and strops out of it before I have to paste polish it once. But the number can be as low as 8 or as high as.. dozens. Some people think paste is a travesty, but they usually have various sharpening stones to make up for it. Stropping technique is also very important, you can ruin an edge with too much pressure.

The proper way to strop is to hold onto the metal bit below the blade with index finger and thumb on the sides (no hard pressure from the top!). Lay it flat on its side against the leather so that the spine as well as the edge equally and lightly touch the leather. Then drag it slowly (speed comes when you've got the technique down) in the direction of the spine. You'll hear a distinct, light sound telling you that the edge is being stroked. Most strops are not wide enough to accomodate a full blade, so you'll strop slightly diagonally to make sure the full edge is being stropped. When done with a stroke, turn it around 180° with the blade turning upwards and repeat the stroke in the other direction. You don't have to pull too hard on the strop, just lean back a bit and let your bodyweight keep it straight. The big thing is to find out how light of a touch is light enough so you work the blade without doing harm to it. I usually do about 20 strokes for each side, but YMMV. Still learning all this myself.

Thx for the info. I bought the stuff to maintain the blade (strop, balsa wood with chromium, 12k grit naniwa super stone). But I never got to use it yet before the blade got dull during the first shave (or before). I'll see what happens when I get it back. I hope it will all go well. I still have a hard time knowing how the blade became so dull so fast. It was really supposed to be shave ready (honed by the shop selling it), but well.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: PointyFox on Mon, 26 August 2013, 23:32:10
Hey, I got my first straight razor like 2 weeks ago, was super happy so I tried it the same day. I only prepared for wetshaving, took the razor out of the box and shaved with it. But it was dull and got more dull after doing half my face.

I contacted the company where I got it from and they are going to rehone it and even send me a cheap one to train on. I talked to the guy and also read more on razor forums and I am now 99% sure I did something wrong even if I was very careful.

I did many errors I think, here they are:

1. I did not remove the oil on the blade before using it
2. I put the blade down on a towel before starting, and maybe the blade touched the towel and it might have been enough to dull it.
3. I had a 4-5 days beard. I don't like to shave very often so I always to that, but after reading it seems I should not do that until I am more proficient with the razor.
4. My lack of technique might have dulled it more during the shave.

Still, even if I was pissed after that shave, I still managed to somewhat get used to put it on my face and get a better feeling of the motion (I was very persistent and shave for like 45 min before giving up). And even if my face was badly burned (more so since I had a small sunburn that I realized after), well I did't get anything close to a bad cut (ok, the alum kinda burned, but I was all ok after a few hours).

So even if I am supposed to talk to the guy at the razor shop before shaving again when I receive it, I would be very grateful if someone experienced could give me some tips of what to do and what not to do for a beginner so that I don't end ruining my edged a second time. I know that the first time I strop is going to be a challenge, but as long as I get at least a good shave the first time, I don't mind having to learn it in the long run.

1. I did not remove the oil on the blade before using it
(That might actually help the shave.  Also might give you acne).

2. I put the blade down on a towel before starting, and maybe the blade touched the towel and it might have been enough to dull it.
(Won't dull it.)

3. I had a 4-5 days beard. I don't like to shave very often so I always to that, but after reading it seems I should not do that until I am more proficient with the razor.
(Straight razors work better if you have longer hairs.  There is more to grab on to).

4. My lack of technique might have dulled it more during the shave.
(Maybe if you dropped it :P)

I agree with godly_music that it probably wasn't sharp enough.  Most good companies machine sharpen the blades to about 70% of the blades potential.  Other companies make straight razors more for decoration than actually using (most companies based in China). 

I can sharpen the blade for you if it doesn't work out for shipping fees + $10 if you'd like.

I disagree with godly_music that " 6000 Japanese grit and upwards, this is basically the coarsest you'll ever use on a straight razor.". 
I refurbish old razors and it is common to use 600-1000 grit to take out chips in the blade and 4000 grit to reset the bevel and during the sharpening process.


Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: godly_music on Mon, 26 August 2013, 23:45:36
Yeah, fixing a badly messed up edge with high grit would take ages. I'm also trying to nab a beat-up beauty off ebay so I can fix it up. Looks like fun.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: JPG on Mon, 26 August 2013, 23:51:41
Hey, I got my first straight razor like 2 weeks ago, was super happy so I tried it the same day. I only prepared for wetshaving, took the razor out of the box and shaved with it. But it was dull and got more dull after doing half my face.

I contacted the company where I got it from and they are going to rehone it and even send me a cheap one to train on. I talked to the guy and also read more on razor forums and I am now 99% sure I did something wrong even if I was very careful.

I did many errors I think, here they are:

1. I did not remove the oil on the blade before using it
2. I put the blade down on a towel before starting, and maybe the blade touched the towel and it might have been enough to dull it.
3. I had a 4-5 days beard. I don't like to shave very often so I always to that, but after reading it seems I should not do that until I am more proficient with the razor.
4. My lack of technique might have dulled it more during the shave.

Still, even if I was pissed after that shave, I still managed to somewhat get used to put it on my face and get a better feeling of the motion (I was very persistent and shave for like 45 min before giving up). And even if my face was badly burned (more so since I had a small sunburn that I realized after), well I did't get anything close to a bad cut (ok, the alum kinda burned, but I was all ok after a few hours).

So even if I am supposed to talk to the guy at the razor shop before shaving again when I receive it, I would be very grateful if someone experienced could give me some tips of what to do and what not to do for a beginner so that I don't end ruining my edged a second time. I know that the first time I strop is going to be a challenge, but as long as I get at least a good shave the first time, I don't mind having to learn it in the long run.

1. I did not remove the oil on the blade before using it
(That might actually help the shave.  Also might give you acne).

2. I put the blade down on a towel before starting, and maybe the blade touched the towel and it might have been enough to dull it.
(Won't dull it.)

3. I had a 4-5 days beard. I don't like to shave very often so I always to that, but after reading it seems I should not do that until I am more proficient with the razor.
(Straight razors work better if you have longer hairs.  There is more to grab on to).

4. My lack of technique might have dulled it more during the shave.
(Maybe if you dropped it :P)

I agree with godly_music that it probably wasn't sharp enough.  Most good companies machine sharpen the blades to about 70% of the blades potential.  Other companies make straight razors more for decoration than actually using (most companies based in China). 

I can sharpen the blade for you if it doesn't work out for shipping fees + $10 if you'd like.

I disagree with godly_music that " 6000 Japanese grit and upwards, this is basically the coarsest you'll ever use on a straight razor.". 
I refurbish old razors and it is common to use 600-1000 grit to take out chips in the blade and 4000 grit to reset the bevel and during the sharpening process.

Well, then the razor had to be dull when I got it. Strange since it's a Robert Williams custom razor that I got from classicedge ... but well I suppose QA issues are everywhere. At least they will hone it for free, but shipping cost sucks!

Well thx for the answers anyway!
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Binge on Tue, 27 August 2013, 01:43:49
My safety razor and blades came today.  I went with the long handled Merkur 23C, and I have a boar hair brush, soap, and cup which was a chrismast gift from years back.

This was a very enjoyable shave.  I'm sure I'll be using this for years now.  My face thanks those of the Wetshaving thread.  Thanks :D
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: BlueBär on Tue, 27 August 2013, 02:51:32
My safety razor and blades came today.  I went with the long handled Merkur 23C, and I have a boar hair brush, soap, and cup which was a chrismast gift from years back.

This was a very enjoyable shave.  I'm sure I'll be using this for years now.  My face thanks those of the Wetshaving thread.  Thanks :D

So no more beard? :(
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: sth on Tue, 27 August 2013, 04:26:47
i've got some proraso coming in the mail soon... we'll see how i like it i guess.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Danule on Tue, 27 August 2013, 07:54:57
i've got some proraso coming in the mail soon... we'll see how i like it i guess.

prorasso is very good for the price!
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Binge on Tue, 27 August 2013, 09:11:15
My safety razor and blades came today.  I went with the long handled Merkur 23C, and I have a boar hair brush, soap, and cup which was a chrismast gift from years back.

This was a very enjoyable shave.  I'm sure I'll be using this for years now.  My face thanks those of the Wetshaving thread.  Thanks :D

So no more beard? :(

Controlled beard.  The lady loves it.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Badwrench on Tue, 27 August 2013, 09:23:18
i've got some proraso coming in the mail soon... we'll see how i like it i guess.

prorasso is very good for the price!

I agree.  One of the better shave creams I have used.  Make sure to do a quick pass under some hot water with the proraso before you start to help soften the soap a bit.  This contributes significantly to the lather (it lathers so well, that if you are in a hurry, you can just lather in your off hand instead of a cup/bowl). 

Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: sth on Tue, 27 August 2013, 12:29:40
you can just lather in your off hand instead of a cup/bowl). 

that is my plan :)
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Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: sth on Tue, 27 August 2013, 16:48:25
my bad i didnt order proraso, i ordered musco real. i got it confused with a brush that the company i heard about  it from carries.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: sth on Wed, 28 August 2013, 12:32:04
update: musco real is awesome. little to no prep time, smells and feels better than barbasol for sure and is more convenient than solid soaps.
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Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 28 August 2013, 12:42:10
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Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Binge on Wed, 28 August 2013, 12:45:06
3 days and 0 irritation.  None... amazing.  I feel like a new dapper gent.
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Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 28 August 2013, 12:50:42
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Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Binge on Wed, 28 August 2013, 14:51:00
3 days and 0 irritation.  None... amazing.  I feel like a new dapper gent.

How do you like the boar brush? Which brush was it? Have you been soaking it beforehand, so as to soften it up?

The boar brush I have has no name.  I used boar hair brushes (not this brush) for oil painting, and I can verify the authenticity of the bristles on this lather brush as being genuine.  Boar's hair will become more and more soft over time if you use a brush conditioner.  Hair conditioner will also work, but I prefer the brush conditioner I use with my oil paint brushes.  Of course I use new brush conditioner which is not contaminated with anything which would irritate my face.  The thing I like about boar's hair is that when conditioned it is very tough to break.

Before lathering I just get the brush wet with near scalding hot water.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: MTManiac on Wed, 28 August 2013, 15:40:51
Before lathering I just get the brush wet with near scalding hot water.
I do that then use the brush to lather on my face, works way better than a bowl/cup/hand imo
I have a no-name boars brush and have definitely noticed it has gotten better with age, thought I was just a placebo effect but that's interesting
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Post by: esoomenona on Wed, 28 August 2013, 15:46:15
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Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Morwrath on Wed, 28 August 2013, 15:58:41
Use the last 3 hours reading up on wetshaving and looking at equipment/products, why is it that this forum makes me want to spend my money like a crazy person? :S
I'm going to wish for a safety razor for christmas I think. The whole process of lathering and then shaving reminds me of my grandfather somehow, feels "right" somehow.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Binge on Wed, 28 August 2013, 15:59:00
For a new boar's brush I'd suggest for a faster break-in to get the brush conditioned.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Morwrath on Wed, 28 August 2013, 16:11:13
Oh btw, have any of you tried out the Merkur Futur? From what I have read it seems like a beginner-friendly razor. Just a bit concerned since some reviews said that the head of the razor was a bit too big, making it hard to shave under the nose etc.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: sth on Wed, 28 August 2013, 16:23:00
Use the last 3 hours reading up on wetshaving and looking at equipment/products, why is it that this forum makes me want to spend my money like a crazy person? :S
I'm going to wish for a safety razor for christmas I think. The whole process of lathering and then shaving reminds me of my grandfather somehow, feels "right" somehow.

you dont need as much as you think and you definitely dont have to spend as much as it may seem. check out thrift stores and yard sales (even ebay sometimes) for old handles. a boar hair brush is more than fine; i'd say start with that and use it for a good long while before you think you need to get something nicer. you can buy fancy merkur handles and badger brushes but at that point you're approaching diminishing returns. hell, my roommate uses a $2 handle he got in chinatown.

shaving can be a hobby to some, which i dont understand but that's fine. if you want to go that route, more power to you and i feel sorry for your wallet. otherwise, the nice thing about shaving with a safety razor is the cost. you can get away with spending 5x as much as cartridge razors cost buying all the fancy gear, or you can spend a 1/10th of the cost you'd normally spend on that stuff and still get a great shave daily. the real benefit comes from the blades (or lackthereof) screwing up your skin.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Binge on Wed, 28 August 2013, 16:42:09
^ truths stated.

I got my merkur 23C and blades for cheap... it cost me about $24 to get started.  A brush and lather soap?  free for Christmas some years ago.  Best feeling razors for an acceptable amount.

Glad I started, doubt I will go much further because it works.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Badwrench on Wed, 28 August 2013, 17:31:08
I agree with sth and binge as well.  My razor was a gift from my Wife, so I know that she probably paid a premium for it (Merkur Progress long) as well as the shaving cream, badger brush, and pre-shave oil (all from Art of Shaving).  That was almost 3 years ago, and I have been replacing the AoS stuff with more common (and cheaper) products and have moved from Merkur blades to Feathers.   In the last 2 years, I have probably only spent about $30 in product/blades.   :thumb:
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: MTManiac on Thu, 29 August 2013, 14:36:59
I got a huge sample pack of 12 different kinds of blades
feather and astra are my favorites so far

If you want to get into this on the cheap, check out this kit for under 9 bucks shipped, and can be found at target, wally world, etc...
http://www.amazon.com/Van-Hagen-Premium-Shave-Brush/dp/B001A3HPT0
you get a decent boar brush, a ceramic bowl, and shaving SOAP (not cream, but still a decent lather, but not a cream lather, ie. buy some cream!!!!!)
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: PointyFox on Thu, 29 August 2013, 18:11:36
Cost of DE shaving:
Edwin Jagger Badger Brush: $160
Edwin Jagger DE Razor: $40
Castle Forbes Shaving Cream: $50
Styptic: $3
10 Feather Blades $5

Total: $258

Cost of cartridge shaving:
Shaver: Free
1 Cartridge (lasts as long as 10 DE blades): $2.50
1 Can Barbasol : $1

Total : $3.50


What did I do wrong?
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: BlueBär on Thu, 29 August 2013, 18:29:28
You could have saved on these two:
Edwin Jagger Badger Brush: $160 - a boar brush is a lot cheaper
Castle Forbes Shaving Cream: $50 - cheap shaving cream from Nivea does the job very well

Also:
1 Cartridge (lasts as long as 10 DE blades): $2.50
wat
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: E TwentyNine on Thu, 29 August 2013, 19:28:02
What did I do wrong?

Everything?
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Binge on Thu, 29 August 2013, 22:30:15
Cost of DE shaving:
Edwin Jagger Badger Brush: $160
Edwin Jagger DE Razor: $40
Castle Forbes Shaving Cream: $50
Styptic: $3
10 Feather Blades $5

Total: $258

Cost of cartridge shaving:
Shaver: Free
1 Cartridge (lasts as long as 10 DE blades): $2.50
1 Can Barbasol : $1

Total : $3.50


What did I do wrong?

I report liars.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: The_Beast on Thu, 29 August 2013, 22:31:11
What did I do wrong?

Looks like everything....

Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: demik on Thu, 29 August 2013, 23:07:37
beast get out of this thread you haven't hit puberty
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Danule on Sat, 31 August 2013, 11:41:47
Cost of DE shaving:
Edwin Jagger Badger Brush: $160
Edwin Jagger DE Razor: $40
Castle Forbes Shaving Cream: $50
Styptic: $3
10 Feather Blades $5

Total: $258

Cost of cartridge shaving:
Shaver: Free
1 Cartridge (lasts as long as 10 DE blades): $2.50
1 Can Barbasol : $1

Total : $3.50


What did I do wrong?

Lol cartridge blades do not even last as long an 1 de blade. Also barbasol will destroy your face.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: PointyFox on Sat, 31 August 2013, 12:22:59
Cost of DE shaving:
Edwin Jagger Badger Brush: $160
Edwin Jagger DE Razor: $40
Castle Forbes Shaving Cream: $50
Styptic: $3
10 Feather Blades $5

Total: $258

Cost of cartridge shaving:
Shaver: Free
1 Cartridge (lasts as long as 10 DE blades): $2.50
1 Can Barbasol : $1

Total : $3.50


What did I do wrong?

I report liars.

I'll send you a picture of my stuff if you don't believe me.  I have one of these, but in medium: http://www.westcoastshaving.com/Edwin-Jagger-Silver-Tip-Badger-Shaving-Brush-Extra-Large-Imitation-Ivory_p_736.html (http://www.westcoastshaving.com/Edwin-Jagger-Silver-Tip-Badger-Shaving-Brush-Extra-Large-Imitation-Ivory_p_736.html).

Cost of DE shaving:
Edwin Jagger Badger Brush: $160
Edwin Jagger DE Razor: $40
Castle Forbes Shaving Cream: $50
Styptic: $3
10 Feather Blades $5

Total: $258

Cost of cartridge shaving:
Shaver: Free
1 Cartridge (lasts as long as 10 DE blades): $2.50
1 Can Barbasol : $1

Total : $3.50


What did I do wrong?

Lol cartridge blades do not even last as long an 1 de blade. Also barbasol will destroy your face.

1 DE blade lasts me 1-3 days.  1 cartridge lasts me about 3 months.  Also, I like Barbasol more than Proraso or Castle Forbes.  It lubricates just as well for me, costs less, and lathers instantly. 
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Danule on Sat, 31 August 2013, 14:30:11
Cost of DE shaving:
Edwin Jagger Badger Brush: $160
Edwin Jagger DE Razor: $40
Castle Forbes Shaving Cream: $50
Styptic: $3
10 Feather Blades $5

Total: $258

Cost of cartridge shaving:
Shaver: Free
1 Cartridge (lasts as long as 10 DE blades): $2.50
1 Can Barbasol : $1

Total : $3.50


What did I do wrong?

I report liars.

I'll send you a picture of my stuff if you don't believe me.  I have one of these, but in medium: http://www.westcoastshaving.com/Edwin-Jagger-Silver-Tip-Badger-Shaving-Brush-Extra-Large-Imitation-Ivory_p_736.html (http://www.westcoastshaving.com/Edwin-Jagger-Silver-Tip-Badger-Shaving-Brush-Extra-Large-Imitation-Ivory_p_736.html).

Cost of DE shaving:
Edwin Jagger Badger Brush: $160
Edwin Jagger DE Razor: $40
Castle Forbes Shaving Cream: $50
Styptic: $3
10 Feather Blades $5

Total: $258

Cost of cartridge shaving:
Shaver: Free
1 Cartridge (lasts as long as 10 DE blades): $2.50
1 Can Barbasol : $1

Total : $3.50


What did I do wrong?

Lol cartridge blades do not even last as long an 1 de blade. Also barbasol will destroy your face.

1 DE blade lasts me 1-3 days.  1 cartridge lasts me about 3 months.  Also, I like Barbasol more than Proraso or Castle Forbes.  It lubricates just as well for me, costs less, and lathers instantly.

well... good on you :) im sure most if not all of the other people in this thread will disagree with you, not that it matters, but I'm glad you found love in the cartridge and arasol can :)
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Tue, 03 September 2013, 10:25:21
Been wetshaving with a Mach 3 for around three years. Last January I got myself an Edwin Jagger DE87 and loved the transition. Over the summer I got a Merker Futur adjustable and holy wow has it made my shaves quicker and smoother. I'm excited to try a slant bar as well but I'm waiting to dial in on my ideal setting with the Futur.

I prefer synthetic badger brushes since I'm not a big fan of animals in my products but I also like the stout feel of boar brushes. I use mostly soaps but I have the Taylor of Old Bond Street avocado shaving cream that I bust out for special occasions. I've been meaning to get a lavender cream as well.

My best blade with the EJ was Derby but I'm liking 7a.m. and Astra Platinums in the Futur where the blade can be a bit more exposed.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: PointyFox on Tue, 03 September 2013, 13:25:43
I got a free sample of these and they're a lot better than other multiblade cartridges (>2 blades) that I've tried since they don't get jammed as easily, maybe because the blades are supposedly thinner:

(http://c2.soap.com/images/products/p/pg/pg-3306_1z.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Winther on Tue, 03 September 2013, 15:17:48
Recently I considered an old fashioned straight razer, mostly because I think it would be really cool to be good at and because my usual philips shaver just doenst get it nice and close to the sking without using too much time and irritating my skin.

What are the essentials when starting out with something like this?
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: PointyFox on Tue, 03 September 2013, 21:41:28
Recently I considered an old fashioned straight razer, mostly because I think it would be really cool to be good at and because my usual philips shaver just doenst get it nice and close to the sking without using too much time and irritating my skin.

What are the essentials when starting out with something like this?

You need to learn how to do it before you actually do it.

Items you'll want are:
Leather strop for stropping before each shave
Vaseline or similar for protecting the blade between uses

Then either:
Something to temporarily sharpen (polish) the edge every few months, like a balsa wood strop or cloth strop with fine polishing paste like chromium and iron oxides, though you will need to send this to someone to resharpen it after a year or so,
or
a Norton 4000/8000 grit waterstone to do a better job and actually sharpen it instead of polishing it.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Winther on Wed, 04 September 2013, 05:50:27
I have watched a few youtube tutorials about it, but maybe I can find somewhere to get a lesson in it.. :)

The sites I recently looked at about this had only straight razor looking knives where you had to change the blade out for a normal razorblade, like this one:
http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/filepicker%2Fdx88U9QfSSqEqRH1MKzA_razorblade.jpg

I dont have the money to start this at the moment, but i will deff. look into it when I do! :)
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: vun on Thu, 05 September 2013, 05:38:22
Just got this as a delayed birthday present;

(http://i.imgur.com/ZDZpfgX.jpg)

And I thought that getting anything better than the cheap, mostly plastic, DE and boar brush wasn't going to be all that much of an improvement, but I might've been wrong about that. It's fantastic, I was a bit sceptical to the adjustable feature, but after trying it out I have to say that I love it. And the badger brush is really good, so much better than boar.

Already excited for my next shave, still have some kinks in my technique that I want to straighten out.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: PointyFox on Thu, 05 September 2013, 06:11:58
I have watched a few youtube tutorials about it, but maybe I can find somewhere to get a lesson in it.. :)

The sites I recently looked at about this had only straight razor looking knives where you had to change the blade out for a normal razorblade, like this one:
http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/filepicker%2Fdx88U9QfSSqEqRH1MKzA_razorblade.jpg

I dont have the money to start this at the moment, but i will deff. look into it when I do! :)

Oh, those are probably shavettes.  http://straightrazorplace.com/srpwiki/index.php/Shavette (http://straightrazorplace.com/srpwiki/index.php/Shavette)
You could check them out to see if you'd like using a straight razor since the shaving style is the same and shavettes tend to be cheap.
Though they're a bit more dangerous than a straight razor if you do it wrong.

Just got this as a delayed birthday present;

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/ZDZpfgX.jpg)


And I thought that getting anything better than the cheap, mostly plastic, DE and boar brush wasn't going to be all that much of an improvement, but I might've been wrong about that. It's fantastic, I was a bit sceptical to the adjustable feature, but after trying it out I have to say that I love it. And the badger brush is really good, so much better than boar.

Already excited for my next shave, still have some kinks in my technique that I want to straighten out.
That set looks nice.  Is that a Merkur Futur? 
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Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 05 September 2013, 06:16:12
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Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Winther on Thu, 05 September 2013, 08:45:15
Just got this as a delayed birthday present;

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/ZDZpfgX.jpg)


And I thought that getting anything better than the cheap, mostly plastic, DE and boar brush wasn't going to be all that much of an improvement, but I might've been wrong about that. It's fantastic, I was a bit sceptical to the adjustable feature, but after trying it out I have to say that I love it. And the badger brush is really good, so much better than boar.

Already excited for my next shave, still have some kinks in my technique that I want to straighten out.

Anyone know where I can get a set like this in Europe, doesnt have to be this one exactly, but similar and with a badger brush? :)
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: vun on Thu, 05 September 2013, 08:57:25
Just got this as a delayed birthday present;

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/ZDZpfgX.jpg)


And I thought that getting anything better than the cheap, mostly plastic, DE and boar brush wasn't going to be all that much of an improvement, but I might've been wrong about that. It's fantastic, I was a bit sceptical to the adjustable feature, but after trying it out I have to say that I love it. And the badger brush is really good, so much better than boar.

Already excited for my next shave, still have some kinks in my technique that I want to straighten out.

Anyone know where I can get a set like this in Europe, doesnt have to be this one exactly, but similar and with a badger brush? :)

There are plenty of UK stores selling them, there are also a few sites in Norway and Sweden where you could get them from if you prefer. Although a quick google turned up a few Danish sites selling shaving gear, so I suggest you look at those first and see if they have what you're looking for.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Morwrath on Thu, 05 September 2013, 15:13:46
Kjøpte du fra barbershop.no?
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: vun on Thu, 05 September 2013, 15:17:10
Kjøpte du fra barbershop.no?

YGPM


Edit:

Ok so my fears have come true; the feet under the Merkur frosted glass bowl are coming loose after being soaked in hot water, are there any adhesives that are pretty much invisible and can handle being soaked in hot water, or is that asking for too much and I should just remove the feet now instead of waiting for them to fall off?
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: JPG on Thu, 26 September 2013, 13:38:04
Hey all,

First, I must say that after my initial challenge trying to shave with my straight razor, I am now able to get some very decent shaves with it and enjoy it a LOT.

BUT, I also got a new soap, a Thiers-Issard hard soap. The smell is INCREDIBLE, but I fail hard at making a decent lather with it. I found some good tutorials about how to make a lather with a hard soap, and this has improved the lather produced a little, but whatever I do (no water, few water, more water, more soap, etc.) I get a lather that kinda vanishes in a mater of a minute or so.

So I have 2 questions:

1: Anyone has tried this specific soap and knows how to get a nice lather out of it?
2: I am looking for another soap. After searching, my current choices would be either : Edwin Jagger Natural Shaving Soap -Sea Buckthorn, Tabac Original Shaving Soap or D.R.Harris Almond Shaving Soap. Anyone has a personnal experience with these soaps and would recommend them or have better choices? I don't mind paying for a good hard soap that will last a year, but there's no need to overpay either. I just want a good soap that lather easily, makes the shave easy and smells good  ;D

Thx for the help!
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: sth on Thu, 26 September 2013, 16:42:08
Hey all,

First, I must say that after my initial challenge trying to shave with my straight razor, I am now able to get some very decent shaves with it and enjoy it a LOT.

BUT, I also got a new soap, a Thiers-Issard hard soap. The smell is INCREDIBLE, but I fail hard at making a decent lather with it. I found some good tutorials about how to make a lather with a hard soap, and this has improved the lather produced a little, but whatever I do (no water, few water, more water, more soap, etc.) I get a lather that kinda vanishes in a mater of a minute or so.

So I have 2 questions:

1: Anyone has tried this specific soap and knows how to get a nice lather out of it?
2: I am looking for another soap. After searching, my current choices would be either : Edwin Jagger Natural Shaving Soap -Sea Buckthorn, Tabac Original Shaving Soap or D.R.Harris Almond Shaving Soap. Anyone has a personnal experience with these soaps and would recommend them or have better choices? I don't mind paying for a good hard soap that will last a year, but there's no need to overpay either. I just want a good soap that lather easily, makes the shave easy and smells good  ;D

Thx for the help!

i like musco real. it lathers immediately and doesnt cost too much.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: PointyFox on Fri, 27 September 2013, 08:52:49
Hey all,

First, I must say that after my initial challenge trying to shave with my straight razor, I am now able to get some very decent shaves with it and enjoy it a LOT.

BUT, I also got a new soap, a Thiers-Issard hard soap. The smell is INCREDIBLE, but I fail hard at making a decent lather with it. I found some good tutorials about how to make a lather with a hard soap, and this has improved the lather produced a little, but whatever I do (no water, few water, more water, more soap, etc.) I get a lather that kinda vanishes in a mater of a minute or so.

So I have 2 questions:

1: Anyone has tried this specific soap and knows how to get a nice lather out of it?
2: I am looking for another soap. After searching, my current choices would be either : Edwin Jagger Natural Shaving Soap -Sea Buckthorn, Tabac Original Shaving Soap or D.R.Harris Almond Shaving Soap. Anyone has a personnal experience with these soaps and would recommend them or have better choices? I don't mind paying for a good hard soap that will last a year, but there's no need to overpay either. I just want a good soap that lather easily, makes the shave easy and smells good  ;D

Thx for the help!

Haven't tried it, but it could be your brush if it's silver tip badger.  The better brushes are too soft to make lather out of hard soaps very well.  For hard soaps, you need to be fairly aggressive and patient.  It normally takes 1-3 minutes to make a decent lather with them.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: JPG on Fri, 27 September 2013, 09:14:28
Hey all,

First, I must say that after my initial challenge trying to shave with my straight razor, I am now able to get some very decent shaves with it and enjoy it a LOT.

BUT, I also got a new soap, a Thiers-Issard hard soap. The smell is INCREDIBLE, but I fail hard at making a decent lather with it. I found some good tutorials about how to make a lather with a hard soap, and this has improved the lather produced a little, but whatever I do (no water, few water, more water, more soap, etc.) I get a lather that kinda vanishes in a mater of a minute or so.

So I have 2 questions:

1: Anyone has tried this specific soap and knows how to get a nice lather out of it?
2: I am looking for another soap. After searching, my current choices would be either : Edwin Jagger Natural Shaving Soap -Sea Buckthorn, Tabac Original Shaving Soap or D.R.Harris Almond Shaving Soap. Anyone has a personnal experience with these soaps and would recommend them or have better choices? I don't mind paying for a good hard soap that will last a year, but there's no need to overpay either. I just want a good soap that lather easily, makes the shave easy and smells good  ;D

Thx for the help!

Haven't tried it, but it could be your brush if it's silver tip badger.  The better brushes are too soft to make lather out of hard soaps very well.  For hard soaps, you need to be fairly aggressive and patient.  It normally takes 1-3 minutes to make a decent lather with them.

I have a boar brush for now (from dreadnought kit). Not the best, but will do the job until my birthday (November).

Right now, what I do is let my brush soak while I shower and i put a little water on the soap. Then I remove all the water from the brush (shake and even squeeze). Then I remove excess water from soap and start loading. I try to load it a lot. At this stage, I manage to get it loaded quite ok as far as I know (soap is thick, not later yet). Then I add a very very little amount of water (just a drop) and start building in my bowl. After like 20-30 secs, the lather starts forming and all goes well, then I get some decent lather with nice pikes. So I let it there while I put preshave oil on my beard (1 min) and then I lather half my face (cause with this soap I know it wont last long enough anyway). So I lather my face, still ok at this point. Then I start shaving, but by the time I have done my cheeks, the lather is already drying. It's getting like a foam full of bubbles that are disappearing quite fast. When I get to my chin, I need to lather again already, which I can, but already, even on my brush and in the bowl, the lather is in the same situation. If I add a touch of water, it helps a little to produce some sort of lather again, but this one does not last either.

When I use my dreadnought shaving cream (almost gone), I build a lather in like 10-20 seconds (my bowl is REALLY amazing for that) and the lather last all my LONG shave and is still perfect at the end.

I know I still lack skill and experience, but I tried many different things with this soap and none got good results. If I add just a little more water, it gets all bubbles instantly. The only thing I have yet to try is to lather on my face. Maybe my bowl adds too much air too fast (it has some lines inside made to add air faster and it works super well).
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: PointyFox on Fri, 27 September 2013, 09:22:05
Boar brush should have firm enough bristles.  Actually.. It may be the bowl.  I've noticed this happens if I use a porous bowl.  You need a small smooth one, around the diameter of a coffee mug.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: JPG on Fri, 27 September 2013, 09:34:49
Boar brush should have firm enough bristles.  Actually.. It may be the bowl.  I've noticed this happens if I use a porous bowl.  You need a small smooth one, around the diameter of a coffee mug.

I use this bowl: http://classicedge.ca/index.php?route=product/product&path=75_64&product_id=921

It's not porous (well it's all shiny and has no drag). It's like a big coffee mug and has rings inside (they are shaped in the bowl). Anyway, works super nice with my cream, but I will try face lathering anyway in case it would solve my problem.

Also, do you have any experience with the edwin jagger  and tabac soaps? I will probably try them anyway cause I want to! I have read good reviews of them, but it would be nice to have a confirmation from someone.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Danule on Tue, 08 October 2013, 10:32:17
I'm guessing many of us have already tried many different blades. Wat are some of your favourites?  Mine are currently willinson sword and gillette super stainless (yellow)
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: PointyFox on Wed, 09 October 2013, 02:06:11
I'm guessing many of us have already tried many different blades. Wat are some of your favourites?  Mine are currently willinson sword and gillette super stainless (yellow)

Feather is my favorite.  Derby used to be my second favorite, and now it's my least favorite due to bad QC or something.  I also like older Wilkinson Sword.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: PointyFox on Wed, 09 October 2013, 02:08:03
Boar brush should have firm enough bristles.  Actually.. It may be the bowl.  I've noticed this happens if I use a porous bowl.  You need a small smooth one, around the diameter of a coffee mug.

I use this bowl: http://classicedge.ca/index.php?route=product/product&path=75_64&product_id=921

It's not porous (well it's all shiny and has no drag). It's like a big coffee mug and has rings inside (they are shaped in the bowl). Anyway, works super nice with my cream, but I will try face lathering anyway in case it would solve my problem.

Also, do you have any experience with the edwin jagger  and tabac soaps? I will probably try them anyway cause I want to! I have read good reviews of them, but it would be nice to have a confirmation from someone.

No experience with those soaps.  Maybe the rings inside that scuttle put too much air into the lather, similar to the porosity of my bowl?
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Danule on Wed, 09 October 2013, 12:17:21
I'm guessing many of us have already tried many different blades. Wat are some of your favourites?  Mine are currently willinson sword and gillette super stainless (yellow)

Feather is my favorite.  Derby used to be my second favorite, and now it's my least favorite due to bad QC or something.  I also like older Wilkinson Sword.
Feather is good a bit too sharp for me usually.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: DamienG on Thu, 10 October 2013, 15:27:29
Gillette 7 O'clock green have been consistently excellent for me.

Amusing given my original plan was to get away from Gillette Mach...

[)amien
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Danule on Fri, 11 October 2013, 11:32:23
Gillette 7 O'clock green have been consistently excellent for me.

Amusing given my original plan was to get away from Gillette Mach...

[)amien

which ones in particular are you using?  I jsut tried them for the first time a little while ago and they are smooth as butter.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Skull_Angel on Sun, 10 November 2013, 08:57:18
Hello all, recently started getting into wetshaving with the expectation of getting out of the funk caused by normally dry shaving with a cartridge and never getting a "great" shave (even when using canned goo!). I have to say that after a week or so of getting the technique down I'm pretty pleased; now I'm getting a danm fine shave with close to no irritation and actually enjoy shaving (which isn't necessarily a good thing since the girlfriend likes a bit of scruff, haha). Not quite getting that BBS shave yet, but I think that's more so due to the blades I'm currently using (cheap rebranded Walgreens brand); lots of tugging even after a good and proper pre-shave prep. I'm pretty sure it's not my shaving technique; I've mapped out my face and use to get a lot of jumping/skipping from using improper blade angle, but have since adjusted and no longer get any, even going ATG. My lather could still use a little work, I think I'm still using too much water.

My current gear includes; Edwin Jagger De89l, Vie Long 12601, Van Der Hagen "delux"(lol) soap, Gentleman Jon Alum block, a cheap styptic pencil and a cheap ceramic bowl from Walmart. Total start-up cost was may be ~$65 (~$55 went to the razor and brush alone :eek: ); currently on the market for decent blades and it sounds like it's going to be fun finding "the one", but a good starting point seems to be Astra SP (many sampler packs seem riddled with cheap blades, only give you 1-2 of each blade or don't have many I've been eyeballing so they seem like a waste of money...).
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: PointyFox on Sun, 10 November 2013, 09:43:39
Make sure you try Feather.  They're usually regarded as the best.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Skull_Angel on Sun, 10 November 2013, 10:27:12
Make sure you try Feather.  They're usually regarded as the best.

They're on my list, but if those Astra SP work out well I may stick to them since the cost is really hard to beat; save a couple pennies daily and have more to spend when you really want something! Like that Weber I saw after buying the EJ... Gonna be fun explaining that to the GF considering that the maintenance cost was the big selling point of getting into this, haha.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: qi3ber on Sun, 10 November 2013, 13:40:56
Check out the samplers at west coast shaving. I haven't broken into the sampler that I picked up yet, but their samplers seemed pretty well rounded, with five to ten of each, and at a pretty good price. I'll either be breaking into wet shaving today, or next weekend, depending on how tied my arms are after finishing the leaves today.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Skull_Angel on Sun, 10 November 2013, 14:25:28
Check out the samplers at west coast shaving. I haven't broken into the sampler that I picked up yet, but their samplers seemed pretty well rounded, with five to ten of each, and at a pretty good price. I'll either be breaking into wet shaving today, or next weekend, depending on how tied my arms are after finishing the leaves today.

I actually spotted a "create your own" sampler pack over at Maggard Razors that seems to have a handful of top choices to mix and match, looks like a good enough deal that I'll have to check out.

Off-topic; I understand what you mean about the leaves (recently moved to Cleveland, TN), one day it was clear out then a little wind at night and now the driveway and lawn look like a yellow and orange sea of crumpled construction paper!
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Skull_Angel on Thu, 12 December 2013, 12:10:29
A little update on the equipment (EJ De89lbl); it took a bit of time to notice after the novelty of getting an amazingly smooth (action, not result, lol) shave wore off, but I wasn't always getting consistent shaves after a month or so of daily shaving, so I decided to closely inspect the razor and came across a few oddities. First off, the only issues were with the shape of the shaving head (the plating quality, safety-bar plate and handle are perfectly fine), it seems to have manufacturing problems causing it to warp in specific areas; this caused the blade to sit unevenly and unable to be properly secured when loaded.

Now this wasn't such a bad problem I thought, I would even contact the company and politely let them know about a possible issue with their manufacturing process or quality control (seeing as these are supposed to be inspected by hand). After about a week, they replied with the standard "However unlikely, send pictures and we'll let you know what's going on.", so I agreed and sent a few quick pictures where the deformities were visible and stated that I could also send better ones if they weren't good enough. Well, their next reply wasn't so friendly and basically stated there were no visible issues and that they could not/would not help me (understand that I only contacted them to inform them and made it clear that I intended to have it replaced through the retailer); needless to say I will not be exchanging the razor for a replacement and will be looking for something else entirely. This does not seem normal for the company after searching for other customer contact instances, but if anyone here has contacted EJ it would be nice to hear about their experiences with them.

Moving on, I am now in the market for a new razor! I really have no clue where to go from here; I've looked into Merkur's offerings and would be happy to take one, but have recently come across Weber's razors and they just seem to put the Merkurs to shame. Then there are the vintage Gillettes, plated solid-brass, solid engineering that has lasted decades, but only listings online are ebay or exaggeratedly overpriced retailers; I really need to sift through the myriad of antique and pawn shops out in this area, could be a gold mine out there!
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: JPG on Thu, 12 December 2013, 12:21:15
massdrop had the IKON and Feater ones during this year, maybe look if the buyers seem satisfied with it or look for more info on them. I can't help you more since I use a straight razor, but before I made the move I considered these 2.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: E TwentyNine on Thu, 12 December 2013, 12:49:12
Moving on, I am now in the market for a new razor! I really have no clue where to go from here; I've looked into Merkur's offerings and would be happy to take one, but have recently come across Weber's razors and they just seem to put the Merkurs to shame. Then there are the vintage Gillettes, plated solid-brass, solid engineering that has lasted decades, but only listings online are ebay or exaggeratedly overpriced retailers; I really need to sift through the myriad of antique and pawn shops out in this area, could be a gold mine out there!

Ebay isn't a terrible place to get vintage razors.  Wait a bit and can get one at a good price.

Locally, don't forget about flea markets and the like.  I've found several that way for under $5 each in near perfect condition.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Skull_Angel on Thu, 12 December 2013, 15:35:24
Ebay isn't a terrible place to get vintage razors.  Wait a bit and can get one at a good price.

Locally, don't forget about flea markets and the like.  I've found several that way for under $5 each in near perfect condition.

I know, I've just had retardedly bad luck with several purchases. I completely forgot about flea markets, there should be quite a few of those in the area too.


massdrop had the IKON and Feater ones during this year, maybe look if the buyers seem satisfied with it or look for more info on them. I can't help you more since I use a straight razor, but before I made the move I considered these 2.

While the Feather is interesting as well, most of the iKons I've seen seem to be pricy. I've done a lot of forum hopping and it's hard to take my mind off the Weber and vintage razors, haha.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: PointyFox on Thu, 12 December 2013, 17:10:36
Edwin Jagger DE razors are nice and are pretty cheap, though the biggest factor is getting a good blade for it like a Feather.

I sell sharpened straight razors if you're interested.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Skull_Angel on Thu, 12 December 2013, 17:56:53
Edwin Jagger DE razors are nice and are pretty cheap, though the biggest factor is getting a good blade for it like a Feather.

I sell sharpened straight razors if you're interested.

Straight razors would be a nice thing to get into eventually, but my current situation barely allows for a half decent 2-pass shave (1 shared bathroom between a full family) let alone the time for a proper stropping; that and we have a kid here that likes to get into sharp instruments no matter where they may be hidden, lol. I did have the chance to use a shavette before, made me feel like I needed to get myself a good hat and some spurs before tying up my saddle bags and riding off... haha.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Skull_Angel on Thu, 02 January 2014, 10:47:43
Little update here; scanned ebay for a week looking for a good deal and finally found a Gillette blue tip. The thing looked like a gunk pile, but there were no signs of any pitting on the plating so I went for it; happy to say that it was a steal of a find for $15, shined up perfectly with a few dish soap soak 'n scrubs and a good going over with Mother's mag polish. Paired up with an Astra SP the shave is very mild (almost too mild), but leaves me almost baby-butt smooth considering I need to readjust to a new blade angle. Over all very happy with my find even if I still have the want to grab a normal Flair tip or adjustable.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: quickcrx702 on Fri, 03 January 2014, 04:00:41
Make sure you try Feather.  They're usually regarded as the best.

Make sure you try them after you try every other type of blade.  If your technique isn't down, you will get to know a styptic pencil very well.  Once you get it down though, nothing else compares.  I can effortlessly shave a weeks worth of growth on my whole head in one or at most two passes, with no issues other than having to rinse the blade more often.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: piglickjf on Tue, 07 January 2014, 13:22:02
Wow, what a thread. I've been "wetshaving" for several years now - I had no idea it had a special name, though. I had mentioned wanting to try it, so one year about 5 or so years ago my wife bought me a razor, brush and blades. The razor is a Merkur (not sure which model) as are the blades.  I'm pretty sure the brush is badger hair, but has a blue plastic handle - Men-U brand, I think? I don't use it much anymore because I tried out a Burt's Bees (http://www.amazon.com/Burts-Bees-Mens-Shave-Cream/dp/B002VWL2GG) shave cream, which is non-lathering, and I really like it. It's almost like a slightly oily lotion, you just quickly rub it on a wet face and shave. Anyone else tried it? I have pretty tough skin anyway and didn't have too much trouble with burn, but I like this stuff better than the soaps I was using before (which, admittedly, were not shaving soaps, but a variety of handmade soap samples picked up from various farmer's markets and such).

Which leads into my next question - has anyone tried making their own shaving soap/cream? My wife is about to start trying out soapmaking, and she'd probably like making me something special. Any tips or advice on that?

I'm super cheap and really chintz on my blades - I use them for months at a time  :eek:. In fact, I'm still using the original supply of blades my wife got me with the razor, which I think was two 10-packs, and that's shaving 5 days a week!

Maybe I'll start treating myself to a new blade more often, and I may even try one of those blade sampler packs. I have no real complaints with the blades I've been using but hey, maybe I'll find something I like even better.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: JPG on Tue, 07 January 2014, 13:29:35
I have been wetshaving for a few months, with a straight razor and here are the info I can add:


I really like the edwin jagger soaps and the tabac soap. Both are very nice.


A badger brush is way better at lathering than a board brush.


Making a few pass on the chromium oxyde once in a while makes  HUGE difference for a straight. I waited at least 3 months before trying it, and god I should have tried this before! It's like if the blade was freshly sharpened after a few pass only!


Oh and an alum bloc is a must!
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Skull_Angel on Tue, 07 January 2014, 17:02:29
Wow, what a thread. I've been "wetshaving" for several years now - I had no idea it had a special name, though. I had mentioned wanting to try it, so one year about 5 or so years ago my wife bought me a razor, brush and blades. The razor is a Merkur (not sure which model) as are the blades.  I'm pretty sure the brush is badger hair, but has a blue plastic handle - Men-U brand, I think? I don't use it much anymore because I tried out a Burt's Bees (http://www.amazon.com/Burts-Bees-Mens-Shave-Cream/dp/B002VWL2GG) shave cream, which is non-lathering, and I really like it. It's almost like a slightly oily lotion, you just quickly rub it on a wet face and shave. Anyone else tried it? I have pretty tough skin anyway and didn't have too much trouble with burn, but I like this stuff better than the soaps I was using before (which, admittedly, were not shaving soaps, but a variety of handmade soap samples picked up from various farmer's markets and such).

Which leads into my next question - has anyone tried making their own shaving soap/cream? My wife is about to start trying out soapmaking, and she'd probably like making me something special. Any tips or advice on that?

I'm super cheap and really chintz on my blades - I use them for months at a time  :eek:. In fact, I'm still using the original supply of blades my wife got me with the razor, which I think was two 10-packs, and that's shaving 5 days a week!

Maybe I'll start treating myself to a new blade more often, and I may even try one of those blade sampler packs. I have no real complaints with the blades I've been using but hey, maybe I'll find something I like even better.

I'm still pretty new to using a DE and wet saving, but I've found that even using conditioner or a decent lotion is enough to get an alright shave straight out of the shower, ultimately it seems like a decently whipped up lather still does a better job for me. Still looking for alternatives for those times you need to save every minuet though.

There was a thread on r/wicked_edge or r/SkincareAddiction that touched base on soap compositions and differences between body, face and shaving soap, really interesting read and I'll link it if I can find it again.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: piglickjf on Wed, 08 January 2014, 10:36:20
I'm still pretty new to using a DE and wet saving, but I've found that even using conditioner or a decent lotion is enough to get an alright shave straight out of the shower, ultimately it seems like a decently whipped up lather still does a better job for me. Still looking for alternatives for those times you need to save every minuet though.
Ok, first a n00b question, what is DE? I've seen it throughout this thread and get what it means, but haven't quite been able to figure out what it actually stands for.

I actually shave before my shower - strange, I know. I just rinse my face with hot water from the sink, shave, then shower. After my shower I use witch hazel then a cold water rinse. I found shaving after the shower I end up with more razor burn/irritation/ingrowns. Perhaps that's because of my shoddy technique/dull blades/inferior creams, lotions and aftershaves though. But it works for me, so I go with it. I'm also not at all a morning person and always need every last minute, lol, so the timesavings of not using a brush and being able to just slather some lotion on and still get a decent shave suits me well.

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There was a thread on r/wicked_edge or r/SkincareAddiction that touched base on soap compositions and differences between body, face and shaving soap, really interesting read and I'll link it if I can find it again.
That would be great if you can find it. When she's ready to give it a try I'll probably do some research myself, but it would be great to have a head start.

PigLick
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Skull_Angel on Wed, 08 January 2014, 11:38:12
I couldn't find the link, but there's some good info here (http://www.reddit.com/r/wicked_edge/comments/1mnfij/has_anybody_tried_making_their_own_shave_soap_how/).

DE is just double edge, basically lazy way of saying old-type gandpa's safety razor, haha. From what I've looked through optimal routine and equip (lol) is different for everyone since skin and beard/hair is so different from person to person, so the best thing to do when developing is to change one variable at a time and stick with it for a bit. When I was cartridge shaving I would get the best results dry-shaving before a shower, but doing so tore up blades... lol
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: piglickjf on Wed, 08 January 2014, 12:55:13
I couldn't find the link, but there's some good info here (http://www.reddit.com/r/wicked_edge/comments/1mnfij/has_anybody_tried_making_their_own_shave_soap_how/).

Just quickly scanned it, but that looks like a great link with lots of info, thanks. Hehe, my wife wanteds to just try out basic soapmaking, this sounds like it could get a whole lot more complicated...that's fine though, we both have backgrounds in research and have spent our fair share of time at a lab bench (I still do, she's stay-at-home these days), so it's right up our alley.

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DE is just double edge, basically lazy way of saying old-type gandpa's safety razor, haha.

Ah, double-edged, got it. Makes sense now.

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From what I've looked through optimal routine and equip (lol) is different for everyone since skin and beard/hair is so different from person to person, so the best thing to do when developing is to change one variable at a time and stick with it for a bit. When I was cartridge shaving I would get the best results dry-shaving before a shower, but doing so tore up blades... lol
I may try shaving after the shower again someday, I haven't tried it since I first made the switch to DE (see, now I can use it too!). I'm sure my technique has gotten a lot better, so I may have better luck with it now. Like I said, I'm cheap and use blades for way longer than they probably should be, so if after-shower is easier on blades, it may be good for me.

Does anyone know how long hair has to be wet to achieve maximum softness? I mean, is rinsing with hot water for ~30 sec (as I do now) just as good as showering in it for 5-10 min?

And what about drying/hardening time? When I rinse my face in the sink, I start shaving immediately, and re-rinse as I reapply cream (ie between the first with-grain pass and second against-grain pass). If I shaved after my shower, I'd do it after drying my body, etc., so it would probably be a few minutes between wetness and shaving, so how much difference would that make?

To be honest, these are all things I never really put much thought into until coming across this thread.

PigLick
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: piglickjf on Wed, 08 January 2014, 12:59:20
Oh, and I just came across this:
http://www.yahoo.com/tech/is-this-500-razor-the-last-youll-ever-buy-72383001429.html

Anyone seen this?

Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Skull_Angel on Wed, 08 January 2014, 19:04:55
I'm not sure how long it takes for hair to become saturated or dry out, that's a good question.

My routine usually starts before I get out of the shower with a small application of conditioner or lotion to hold in moisture while I dry off (leave me face wet though) and prep, then I'll whip up some lather which still takes me a few min still and may be 20 sec. of initial application of lather to rub it in and completely cover the hair, so it takes me may be several min. after a shower to actually start shaving. One pass, rinse and re-lather, repeat for 2-3 passes and possibly some touch-up.

If I don't shower I usually take a hot-damp towel and gently scrub beard for half a min or so, then rub in some lotion and make lather. It seems like most people on w_e are saying prep is the most important part, but I don't believe it has to take a considerable amount of time to do a good and through job.

I've seen that razor pop up before too, yeah; I've seen similar ideas, the earliest self contained piece I know of probably being the rolls razor, but at this point I'd just take the time to use a straight and pick up the necessary hones, haha (will eventually when I have the time and space).
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: piglickjf on Thu, 09 January 2014, 09:47:04
Yah, I'd love to try a straight some day, but all the maintenance keeps me away. I don't really have room for a bunch of strops and such (I know they don't take up that much space, with a tiny bathroom shared by myself, my wife and two daughters, space is at a premium), and then having to have the blade honed periodically and such...meh. Plus, like I said, I'm not a morning person and always need every minute in the mornings; a hurried, bleary-eyed shave with a straight just seems like a bad idea.  :))
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: godly_music on Sat, 18 January 2014, 08:50:24
Oh yeah, hurrying a straight razor shave spells disaster. And shaving with one while stoned has turned out to be a terrifying experience, even though I made it through unscathed. Do not recommend that at all. ;)
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: JPG on Sat, 18 January 2014, 09:02:35
Yah, I'd love to try a straight some day, but all the maintenance keeps me away. I don't really have room for a bunch of strops and such (I know they don't take up that much space, with a tiny bathroom shared by myself, my wife and two daughters, space is at a premium), and then having to have the blade honed periodically and such...meh. Plus, like I said, I'm not a morning person and always need every minute in the mornings; a hurried, bleary-eyed shave with a straight just seems like a bad idea.  :))


Shaving with a straight razor takes a little more time, but mostly for wetshavingand I would go the wetshaving way even with a cheap razor. As for maintenance, I have been using my straight razor for 6 months and the only thing you need to do on a regular shave is to strop it and clean/oil it at the end. That's like 1-2 min total. And shaving with a straight razor is quite fast since the surface cut is huge compared to a normal razor. And doing a second pass ain't so long and get's you a closer shave than you can achieve with a normal razor.


Also, I shave before going to bed after I shower, so no hurry in the morning and I can enjoy shaving myself instead of being rushed.


And for long term maintenance, well I only used my chromium oxyde board twice yet. I expect it to take some time before I need to touch it with my 12k stone. I am still new to all this, but I consider that the pleasure of the shave is enough to compensate for the initial cost and time of shaving with a straight razor.


In the end, I think that it's mostly about wanting to shave this way. There might be more practical ways to do it, but I think none are comparable on the satisfaction aspect!
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Skull_Angel on Sat, 18 January 2014, 14:25:47
I recently saw a post on reddit about a straight razor shaver using no more than silica packets for straight storage (after a good drying off, of course) with good results; it's definitely an idea and cuts a bit out of maintenance, but I like to take care of and baby a good blade myself, haha.

My step into the land of DEs has brought me down a darkened trail, it seems like I may have an encounter with what the wet shaving community calls RAD (razor acquisition disorder). The Gillette blue tip I have is fantastic, but not so much for my face; it's smooth as butter, but takes too many passes to get a good clean shave and that usually leads to irritation. So I looked around and picked up a rebranded Cadet TTO which was said to be a bit more aggressive than a Merkur 34c; well, "a bit" is a bit more than "a bit" and you definitely feel the blade (nothing like cartridge still), but what I think doesn't agree with my face the most is the blade exposure (always end up one nick, but no irritation, go figure). Now, I've got a craving for a normal Gillette Superspeed, but it'll have to wait because recent ebay prices are just ridiculous; hopefully this will be the last one...
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: E TwentyNine on Sat, 18 January 2014, 17:52:48
See  a few super-speeds  on eBay for around $20-25 BIN including shipping.  Not the best price but not horrendous.

Hit a flea market or similar.  Picked up a few for under $5.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: E TwentyNine on Sat, 18 January 2014, 17:53:22
See  a few super-speeds on eBay for around $20-25 BIN including shipping.  Not the best price but not horrendous.  And you might do better on an auction.

Or hit a flea market or similar.  Picked up a few for under $5.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: tribade on Fri, 24 January 2014, 17:24:45
I should have known there'd be a wet-shaving thread on GH!  All my interests rolled up into one gigantic site :)

I've been wetshaving for a few years now, mostly SR shaving.  My dad bought a Boker back in the late 70s and never used it, so it was my first razor!  I now have about ten  :rolleyes: 

When I'm pressed for time I use a Muhle DE with feathers!
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: nar on Sat, 25 January 2014, 10:59:48
I recently saw a post on reddit about a straight razor shaver using no more than silica packets for straight storage (after a good drying off, of course) with good results; it's definitely an idea and cuts a bit out of maintenance, but I like to take care of and baby a good blade myself, haha.

I just bought a silica lined sleeve for my SR when I was traveling for more than a month. Kept it in good condition and with minimal work, just dry it off and put it back in the sleeve and your done. Now that I'm back home its back to the normal regiment of 99% Alcohol 1% Tsubaki Oil since it keeps the water out, slightly disinfects the razor and keeps my strop oiled.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Skull_Angel on Sun, 26 January 2014, 00:59:36
I recently saw a post on reddit about a straight razor shaver using no more than silica packets for straight storage (after a good drying off, of course) with good results; it's definitely an idea and cuts a bit out of maintenance, but I like to take care of and baby a good blade myself, haha.

I just bought a silica lined sleeve for my SR when I was traveling for more than a month. Kept it in good condition and with minimal work, just dry it off and put it back in the sleeve and your done. Now that I'm back home its back to the normal regiment of 99% Alcohol 1% Tsubaki Oil since it keeps the water out, slightly disinfects the razor and keeps my strop oiled.

Good point about keeping the strop oiled; I'd have never thought about that until it it was time to do maintenance on the leather (have an original California Creations bike jacket my dad gave me, so have a little experience with leather care; the sucker's older then I am and I'd like to keep it around for a while yet, haha). Good to have some confirmation about the viability of silica products and straight razors as well; seemed like a worth wile idea, so it's nice to know it actually works decently.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Tarzan on Mon, 27 January 2014, 07:52:25
Where do you guys buy your DE blades?  I bought a varied selection from eBay to try out the different brands, and I've decided the Feather blades are the best fit for my razor and shaving style.  Any recommendations for a good retailer for these, or is eBay still the preferred buying channel?
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: nar on Mon, 27 January 2014, 08:48:09
Where do you guys buy your DE blades?  I bought a varied selection from eBay to try out the different brands, and I've decided the Feather blades are the best fit for my razor and shaving style.  Any recommendations for a good retailer for these, or is eBay still the preferred buying channel?

West Coast Shaving is usually recommended a lot. I've actually never used a DE before (Went straight from Electric to SR lol) though so I can't give any personal recommendations.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: thegagne on Mon, 27 January 2014, 09:10:24
I need some new shaving soap/cream. Recommend me something reasonably priced?
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Tarzan on Mon, 27 January 2014, 09:20:24
I need some new shaving soap/cream. Recommend me something reasonably priced?

Proraso. 

http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_1_1_acs_h_2i_2599072011_3778801?ie=UTF8&qid=1390835946&sr=8-1-acs&node=3778801&srs=2599072011&field-keywords=Proraso (http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_1_1_acs_h_2i_2599072011_3778801?ie=UTF8&qid=1390835946&sr=8-1-acs&node=3778801&srs=2599072011&field-keywords=Proraso)

Comes in different flavors, and one tube lasts quite a long time.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Tarzan on Mon, 27 January 2014, 09:50:24
Where do you guys buy your DE blades?  I bought a varied selection from eBay to try out the different brands, and I've decided the Feather blades are the best fit for my razor and shaving style.  Any recommendations for a good retailer for these, or is eBay still the preferred buying channel?

West Coast Shaving is usually recommended a lot. I've actually never used a DE before (Went straight from Electric to SR lol) though so I can't give any personal recommendations.

Thanks for the tip!  I think...  Started browsing their site, and by the time I checked out I'd accumulated a keyboard unit of stuff.   :eek:
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Skull_Angel on Mon, 27 January 2014, 09:50:31
Where do you guys buy your DE blades?  I bought a varied selection from eBay to try out the different brands, and I've decided the Feather blades are the best fit for my razor and shaving style.  Any recommendations for a good retailer for these, or is eBay still the preferred buying channel?

West Coast Shaving is usually recommended a lot. I've actually never used a DE before (Went straight from Electric to SR lol) though so I can't give any personal recommendations.

Basically anywhere you can order in bulk since that's normally the cheapest option; I've been using Amazon so far, but I'm more than open to other reputable retailers. Buying local is normally way over-priced aside from random dollar stores.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Tarzan on Mon, 27 January 2014, 09:56:56
Where do you guys buy your DE blades?  I bought a varied selection from eBay to try out the different brands, and I've decided the Feather blades are the best fit for my razor and shaving style.  Any recommendations for a good retailer for these, or is eBay still the preferred buying channel?

West Coast Shaving is usually recommended a lot. I've actually never used a DE before (Went straight from Electric to SR lol) though so I can't give any personal recommendations.

Basically anywhere you can order in bulk since that's normally the cheapest option; I've been using Amazon so far, but I'm more than open to other reputable retailers. Buying local is normally way over-priced aside from random dollar stores.

WC Shaving had the Feather blades in stock - $40 for 100.  I also added some smaller packs of other brands to try out, shave cream, styptic pencil, etc.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Skull_Angel on Mon, 27 January 2014, 10:16:24
Where do you guys buy your DE blades?  I bought a varied selection from eBay to try out the different brands, and I've decided the Feather blades are the best fit for my razor and shaving style.  Any recommendations for a good retailer for these, or is eBay still the preferred buying channel?

West Coast Shaving is usually recommended a lot. I've actually never used a DE before (Went straight from Electric to SR lol) though so I can't give any personal recommendations.

Basically anywhere you can order in bulk since that's normally the cheapest option; I've been using Amazon so far, but I'm more than open to other reputable retailers. Buying local is normally way over-priced aside from random dollar stores.

WC Shaving had the Feather blades in stock - $40 for 100.  I also added some smaller packs of other brands to try out, shave cream, styptic pencil, etc.

They're up on Amazon for $21.50+4.99(USD)/100 (cheapest), but I've heard rumors of issues with one of the sellers. If I can find supplies on mom and pop sites like Maggardss for a little bit more I'll usually order there; Maggard's in particular is very active and helpful on r/wicked_edge.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: tribade on Mon, 27 January 2014, 16:29:33
Where do you guys buy your DE blades?  I bought a varied selection from eBay to try out the different brands, and I've decided the Feather blades are the best fit for my razor and shaving style.  Any recommendations for a good retailer for these, or is eBay still the preferred buying channel?

West Coast Shaving is usually recommended a lot. I've actually never used a DE before (Went straight from Electric to SR lol) though so I can't give any personal recommendations.

Basically anywhere you can order in bulk since that's normally the cheapest option; I've been using Amazon so far, but I'm more than open to other reputable retailers. Buying local is normally way over-priced aside from random dollar stores.

WC Shaving had the Feather blades in stock - $40 for 100.  I also added some smaller packs of other brands to try out, shave cream, styptic pencil, etc.

I remember amazon having them for a pretty good price.  Here's a link from a quick search.  Not prime though.

http://www.amazon.com/FEATHER-HI-STAINLESS-DOUBLE-BLADES-REMOVE/dp/B0086VWSIC/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1390861709&sr=8-11&keywords=feather+blades
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: thegagne on Mon, 27 January 2014, 19:58:17
I need some new shaving soap/cream. Recommend me something reasonably priced?

Proraso. 

http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_1_1_acs_h_2i_2599072011_3778801?ie=UTF8&qid=1390835946&sr=8-1-acs&node=3778801&srs=2599072011&field-keywords=Proraso (http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_1_1_acs_h_2i_2599072011_3778801?ie=UTF8&qid=1390835946&sr=8-1-acs&node=3778801&srs=2599072011&field-keywords=Proraso)

Comes in different flavors, and one tube lasts quite a long time.

Yeah I've used up a couple tubes in a year and a half. I did not care for the non-standard flavor one I tried.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: nar on Mon, 27 January 2014, 20:09:24
Yeah I've used up a couple tubes in a year and a half. I did not care for the non-standard flavor one I tried.

Have you tried the Sandalwood (Red) one? I really like that flavour.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: thegagne on Wed, 29 January 2014, 08:25:15
Yeah I've used up a couple tubes in a year and a half. I did not care for the non-standard flavor one I tried.

Have you tried the Sandalwood (Red) one? I really like that flavour.

It was Blue - the aloe + vit E version. I did not care for the smell, it did not lather quite as easily, and it irritated my face. I ended up throwing it away.

The good news is I have ordered another of the "green" version and also some Arko soap to try out. While I enjoy a good shave, I try to do it as utilitarian as I can.

I don't want to be a dancy fancy boy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqQvEcc3y1U).
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: tribade on Wed, 29 January 2014, 13:02:39
Yeah I've used up a couple tubes in a year and a half. I did not care for the non-standard flavor one I tried.

Have you tried the Sandalwood (Red) one? I really like that flavour.

It was Blue - the aloe + vit E version. I did not care for the smell, it did not lather quite as easily, and it irritated my face. I ended up throwing it away.

The good news is I have ordered another of the "green" version and also some Arko soap to try out. While I enjoy a good shave, I try to do it as utilitarian as I can.

I don't want to be a dancy fancy boy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqQvEcc3y1U).

I've been using Taylor of Old Bond Street sandalwood shaving cream for quite a while now, and I love it.  You use so little of it that two tubs of it have lasted me quite a while.  I've heard people rave about Proraso and Arko though, so I don't think you can go wrong.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Danule on Thu, 30 January 2014, 10:23:10
I use the green prorasso pretty much exclusivly and it is my favorite at the moment, I would like to try some others out.  I much prefer cream to soap.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: tribade on Thu, 30 January 2014, 22:57:50
I use the green prorasso pretty much exclusivly and it is my favorite at the moment, I would like to try some others out.  I much prefer cream to soap.

If you don't have anything wrong with animal products go with Mitchell's wool fat. No animals were harmed in the making of the cream, but it has something that some people find questionable. I can't remember what is off the top of my head. Lanolin I think. Anyway, I've never heard of anything other than a rave review of it.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Tarzan on Mon, 03 February 2014, 12:19:45
Just some notes on some recent DE blades I've tried.

Bolzano Superinox - Harsh.  Was actually painful to scrape off two-day stubble.  Replaced blade and threw the rest away.

Derby Extra - Decent closeness, just dragged a bit more than I was expecting.  Didn't feel that sharp, left some stubble even after shaving twice.  Better than Gillette 7 O'clock.

Still a major fan of the Feather blades, but I figured I'd try a sampler pack of some of the other brands.  I've got a couple more to try (Treet Platinum & Merkur brand), I'll post impressions once I've tested them out. 

Also tried some Pacific Shaving Shave Oil, which is pretty nice if you like a bit of skin treatment before lathering up.  Less goopy than the pre-shave oil from Art of Shaving, and didn't leave my skin feeling like it had a layer of Vaseline after I was done shaving.

I recently switched to a Merkur Model 180, non-adjustable but I find the default setting works very well.  I like tools with a minimalist ethos, and this razor appeals to me because it's just three parts - a two-part blade holder and the handle.  Easy to clean, blade stays in alignment, longer handle suits my shaving style.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Skull_Angel on Mon, 03 February 2014, 13:34:29
I'd like to add a razor review for those considering;

Cadet/Razorock TTO - almost a scary amount of blade exposure and an aggressive shaver (somewhat poorly made as it was almost impossible to set the blade straight). I could not find a blade combo that didn't give a harsh feeling shave. One the upside I could get a DFS in 2 passes with touch-up and very minimal irritation if any. So, to sum it up "felt like ****, but did a great job".


For anyone interested in cheap soap;

Van Der Hagen delux - Really in-expensive and easy to find and the smell isn't off-putting (kind of like grand-ma's floral perfume after most of the smell has been blown away); I've been able to find it in nearly every big chain store in the area (Tennessee Georgia-border) and it normally sells for $5 (USD) or less for a pair. It takes some elbow grease to work it into a later (this could be due to hard well-water), but it works great; it doesn't seem moisturize very well, but does allow the blade to glide easily. Once you get it worked into a good foam it has some good staying power, but this can take some work before you know how much water to feed it.

For lathering I'd suggest drenching the puck with hot-water and pouring off excess immediately at/before the time you soak your brush (before use) to soften it up. Shake out your brush well before loading, I don't normally get the best results unless I load the brush well (loading until there is 3~4 mm of cream on the tips of my brush), but this may be due to the hard water. Now it's time to work up your lather; it takes me a good minute of rougher swirling and dabbing to get this stuff to explode into a good slick foam, but does it ever when it does and it's not all looks either. Enjoy!
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: thegagne on Mon, 03 February 2014, 23:30:26
Got my green prorasso and some arko soap. Cheap and works well. It's weird but I like the smell.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Skull_Angel on Tue, 04 February 2014, 10:05:29
Got my green prorasso and some arko soap. Cheap and works well. It's weird but I like the smell.

I've been curious about the small of Arko, everyone's explanation seems so vague.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: nar on Tue, 04 February 2014, 19:36:03
Ahh the pain, my Straight Razor got chipped =_=. Hopefully the person who does my honing can hone it out.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: JPG on Tue, 04 February 2014, 20:11:55
Ahh the pain, my Straight Razor got chipped =_=. Hopefully the person who does my honing can hone it out.

You dropped it?
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: thegagne on Tue, 04 February 2014, 23:23:05
I've been curious about the small of Arko, everyone's explanation seems so vague.

Kind of like lemon pledge mixed with fresh laundry (but in a good way!)
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: The_Beast on Tue, 04 February 2014, 23:57:19
I got a badger hair knot! Time to turn a wood handle for it
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Skull_Angel on Wed, 05 February 2014, 00:11:34
I've been curious about the small of Arko, everyone's explanation seems so vague.

Kind of like lemon pledge mixed with fresh laundry (but in a good way!)

Hmm, that's still about as, if not more, descriptive than most explanations I've read, thanks for the input. I think I'm about to order some Proraso Red soap though, do like the small of sandalwood and many like the way Proraso seems to handle (though that's mostly their cream).


I got a badger hair knot! Time to turn a wood handle for it

Sweet, is it pure, best, super or silvertip? Sounds like a fun project either way, have fun!
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: The_Beast on Wed, 05 February 2014, 01:36:10
I got a badger hair knot! Time to turn a wood handle for it

Sweet, is it pure, best, super or silvertip? Sounds like a fun project either way, have fun!

Not sure, but here's what it looks like:
(http://i.imgur.com/LTt5Thk.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Skull_Angel on Wed, 05 February 2014, 09:14:44
I got a badger hair knot! Time to turn a wood handle for it

Sweet, is it pure, best, super or silvertip? Sounds like a fun project either way, have fun!

Not sure, but here's what it looks like:
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/LTt5Thk.jpg)


I'm still not that familiar with identifying them, but it look like a pure badger knot so it might be a little scratchy. If you're interested Larry at whippeddog.com does sell silvertip knots pretty danm cheap, good guy too (any issues and he'll normally replace it hassle free).
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: PointyFox on Wed, 05 February 2014, 18:37:26
I got a badger hair knot! Time to turn a wood handle for it

Sweet, is it pure, best, super or silvertip? Sounds like a fun project either way, have fun!

Not sure, but here's what it looks like:
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/LTt5Thk.jpg)


That looks like pure black badger.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: nar on Wed, 05 February 2014, 20:35:53
Ahh the pain, my Straight Razor got chipped =_=. Hopefully the person who does my honing can hone it out.

You dropped it?

Airline Checked Baggage XD
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: JPG on Wed, 05 February 2014, 20:38:44
I got a badger hair knot! Time to turn a wood handle for it

Sweet, is it pure, best, super or silvertip? Sounds like a fun project either way, have fun!

Not sure, but here's what it looks like:
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/LTt5Thk.jpg)


Wow, super nice handle! What wood is that? Rosewood? Cocobolo? Bocote?
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: tribade on Tue, 25 February 2014, 17:15:24
I got a badger hair knot! Time to turn a wood handle for it

Sweet, is it pure, best, super or silvertip? Sounds like a fun project either way, have fun!

Not sure, but here's what it looks like:
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/LTt5Thk.jpg)


That looks sweet!  Any chance you'll be able to turn handles for interested parties on the forums?  ;D
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: BlueBär on Fri, 02 May 2014, 15:08:47
So I got my first badger brush after using a boar brush before and I do have to say it is a lot nicer. It soaks up water like sponge, I was absolutely surprised how much water there was in the brush after just dipping it once shortly in the water :eek:
The lather also seemed a bit thicker with smaller "bubbles" even though the water/shaving cream ration should have been the same. I really didn't expect it to make such a difference.

Also I now use Feather blades (I used Personnas before). They're indeed more sharp than the Personnas which I felt especially on my chin as my stubbles are very thick on my chin and I had to shave against the grain there before to get it smooth. I now can achieve the same or better smoothness without doing that. I was also surprised on the first swipe that I didn't hear any "cutting" noise at all - I thought I shaved my skin off. But nope, not a single cut (apart from at my Adam's apple where I always cut myself a tiny bit).
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Allover I'm pretty happy with my purchase and can really recommend for those who don't have a badger brush yet to invest in one! Their quality varies, so don't go for the cheapest one. The brush I bought is a Semogue 2020 and cost me about 32€, so really the price isn't too bad.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: JPG on Fri, 02 May 2014, 15:14:07
So I got my first badger brush after using a boar brush before and I do have to say it is a lot nicer. It soaks up water like sponge, I was absolutely surprised how much water there was in the brush after just dipping it once shortly in the water :o
The lather also seemed a bit thicker with smaller "bubbles" even though the water/shaving cream ration should have been the same. I really didn't expect it to make such a difference.

Also I now use Feather blades (I used Personnas before). They're indeed more sharp than the Personnas which I felt especially on my chin as my stubbles are very thick on my chin and I had to shave against the grain there before to get it smooth. I now can achieve the same or better smoothness without doing that. I was also surprised on the first swipe that I didn't hear any "cutting" noise at all - I thought I shaved my skin off. But nope, not a single cut (apart from at my Adam's apple where I always cut myself a tiny bit).
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Allover I'm pretty happy with my purchase and can really recommend for those who don't have a badger brush yet to invest in one! Their quality varies, so don't go for the cheapest one. The brush I bought is a Semogue 2020 and cost me about 32€, so really the price isn't too bad.


I agree with you. I went from a cheap boar brush to an affordable Edwin Jagger best badger and the difference was huge.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: tricheboars on Fri, 02 May 2014, 18:23:55
i havent gotten into the badger tipped brushes but i really love my merkur safety razor with feather razor blades.  currently i am using the Kiehl's White Eagle shaving cream which i also love.


i never thought shaving could be a passion of mine or that it really mattered. then my boss convinced me to get a merkur blade to save money. he knew what he was doing. he sees how bat**** crazy i am about audio hardware and keyboards and knew i would catch the shaving bug quick.  he collects vintage safety razors and i think his collection is really cool.

its the sound.  the sound i hear when i am shaving. wow is that friggin awesome.  also my wife likes it.  that helps too.

it is weird how so many of you have similar passions as me. i wish we lived closer together. we could really nerd out.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Skull_Angel on Thu, 26 June 2014, 16:54:39
Got tired of the cheap ass face-scraper that the Cadet razor is and the excessive number of passes needed from my super speed blue tip so I decided to take the plunge on one of Maggard's inexpensive razors (MR18) while buying more blades. I love their service; got an email the next morning stating that they were on the way to ship the package and another a few hours later with the tracking number. Gonna take a few days for it to get here still, but can't wait!
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: D01 on Thu, 26 June 2014, 17:16:36
I'm big into wet shaving.  Think I have like 20 DE razors, mostly Gillette.  Four badger brushes, two are Simpson.  All kinds of soap, aftershave, etc.  Badger and Blade (http://badgerandblade.com/vb/forum.php) is a nice forum if your into wet shaving.

I buy most of my stuff from WCS (http://www.westcoastshaving.com/).  There are so many good wet shaving products out there.  What I really like about wet shaving is the results.  So many guys these days are choosing for whatever reason to sport the stubble look, I'm one of the few at work that is clean shaven all the time.

This is my favorite razor.  I have better looking ones for sure but this is the best shaver.  30's Gillette New SC.
(http://i.imgur.com/c2wnyes.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Skull_Angel on Thu, 26 June 2014, 17:59:12
What I really like about wet shaving is the results.  So many guys these days are choosing for whatever reason to sport the stubble look, I'm one of the few at work that is clean shaven all the time.

Yeah, I went back and forth between different cartridges and electrics growing up, but didn't really enjoy using any. Came across single-blade shaving and it made a hell of a difference in comfort and results, esp. after pairing it with personally whipped lather. I can't seem to find enough to shave now, but my SO loves the stubble/trimmed look  :))

The only issue I have with trimming/keeping a beard is this gnarly bald spot under my chin, it makes shaping things up under there look odd. I either use a standard trim to keep it off my neck and have a big bald patch or shave closer to my jawline and look a bit like a douche (I'm thinking she really likes that look though, haha)

Nice looking NEW, seems like it's still in great condition.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: poeee on Sun, 29 June 2014, 02:55:30
I don't often shave, but when I do, it's with a safety razor.  I do like to collect old Gillette razors.  I don't go crazy and buy all the razors in the internets.  I prefer to hunt them at garage sales, antique markets and shops.  Here is my humble collection.  I have a couple more that aren't pictured, including a 20's/30's comb style that I probably paid a little too much for at an antique fair (at least it had a Gillette Bakelite box, original or not).

(http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv313/poeee/IMG_2358_zpsb00c61c1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: D01 on Sun, 29 June 2014, 09:00:14
Nice looking NEW, seems like it's still in great condition.

Thanks.  The old Gillette's are great, all brass they clean up great.  Here's what my SC looked like when I found it.  Scrubbing Bubbles.  :thumb:

(http://i.imgur.com/bsIpJAv.jpg)
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Badwrench on Sun, 29 June 2014, 09:59:34
My wife picked up some Shark blades for me, and after using Feathers, they just aren't for me.  Willing to ship out packs of 5 for the price of shipping - I got 100 of them.  My hair is just too thick and I prefer the ultra sharp blades more. 

As to shaving cream/soap, I am just about out of my Prorasso and would like some recommendations for replacement.  I still like it, but would like to find something that gets a little thicker lather.  I am using a badger brush and Merkur razor.   I am also nearly out of my Clubman Pinoud after shave and would like to try something new as well.  I really like the heavy alcohol feel of it and had the Clubman Special Reserve before which I really liked the smell of.  The Pinoud has a decent scent, but wears out too quickly. 
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: D01 on Sun, 29 June 2014, 23:23:26
If you like the Proraso try Cella.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: JPG on Sun, 29 June 2014, 23:29:48
My wife picked up some Shark blades for me, and after using Feathers, they just aren't for me.  Willing to ship out packs of 5 for the price of shipping - I got 100 of them.  My hair is just too thick and I prefer the ultra sharp blades more. 

As to shaving cream/soap, I am just about out of my Prorasso and would like some recommendations for replacement.  I still like it, but would like to find something that gets a little thicker lather.  I am using a badger brush and Merkur razor.   I am also nearly out of my Clubman Pinoud after shave and would like to try something new as well.  I really like the heavy alcohol feel of it and had the Clubman Special Reserve before which I really liked the smell of.  The Pinoud has a decent scent, but wears out too quickly.

My favorite hard soap so far is the Tabac one. Works super nice and smells nice too. I also like to use an alum block after shaving instead or in addition to aftershave. A block cost like 15-20$ and last forever. I like it because it's a nice soft antiseptic so if your aftershave does not have alcohol then you sill have the alum to use as antiseptic. But for a cream soap I only tried to proraso. I find it a good soap when I am too lazy to use an hard soap.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Lammie on Mon, 30 June 2014, 15:37:50
Haha is this thread for real? Guess so...
I use a Remington. Bought it in 2006, still going strong!
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: D01 on Mon, 30 June 2014, 16:50:56
Haha is this thread for real? Guess so...
I use a Remington. Bought it in 2006, still going strong!

Wrong thread.  You want the pos electric razor thread.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Lanx on Wed, 02 July 2014, 09:46:01
i've been interested in this thread, mainly b/c i've got a cutlery kick and buying a few japanese knives and sharpening them, i mean i shave my arm to test if knives are ready anyway, why not this.

seems like lots of you guys use the disposable razor kind, the shavette?

and really about the only 2 companies that seem popular on a search is dovo and feather for straight razors.

i'm gonna get this in a few days

straight razor (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004P1AY4C/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B004P1AY4C&linkCode=as2&tag=420usa-20&linkId=A7XD2EIVOVFHZ7RY)

and just play around with it.

i already have a whole assortment of dmt diamond stones a 6k grit japanese waterstone, and just wanna see what kind of edge i could put on, then maybe i'll wetshave. (use a norelco currently)
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Skull_Angel on Wed, 02 July 2014, 10:24:39
A shavette can't really compare to a straight (it's more for convince for those that can't/don't want to bother with maintenance), the weight and balance make a huge difference and generally a straight can be maintained to have a better edge at all times.

I've heard the gold dollars being alright on a budget, but this was in oooold posts and I'm not sure how that still stands. I haven't really gotten into straights yet, but I think the reason why you hear of Dovo a lot is because they have some of the more budget oriented good quality razors. Feather is more popular for their high quality shavettes, iirc; which do seem very nice trying to mimic a straight's weight and balance, but are quite pricey.

You may also want to pick up a 10k grit stone if you get more serious (I'd say 8k would be borderline), just because it will feel quite a bit rougher on your face than it would have on your arm at 6k. I also think a strop would be a necessity for daily maintenance, you can find cheap ones over at whippeddog.com; in fact, you can also find a lot of great stuff there as well ( don't be afraid to contact the owner too, he's been known to be a good guy).
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Lanx on Wed, 02 July 2014, 11:27:26
yea i'm thinking about a naniwa 12k stone, for cutlery i'm sure it's overkill, but why not.

but along with that i might have to get an entire sink setup for my bench stones.

oh yea i have a strop, just an old belt actually hanging off my oven door handle, i'll probably also get into stropping with compounds soon enough so i'll need dedicated strops.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: JPG on Wed, 02 July 2014, 12:04:42
yea i'm thinking about a naniwa 12k stone, for cutlery i'm sure it's overkill, but why not.

but along with that i might have to get an entire sink setup for my bench stones.

oh yea i have a strop, just an old belt actually hanging off my oven door handle, i'll probably also get into stropping with compounds soon enough so i'll need dedicated strops.


I have been using a straight razor for a year and here's what I can tell you based on my experience:


1. Getting a cheap straight razor to test/practice can be good, as long as it is well sharpened. I bought a very good quality straight razor, but since it was my first time using one and having only seen some youtube video for the technique, my first shave has been hard. But the seller decided to give me a cheap chinese razor that he honed himself for me to get used to it and after a few shaves I went back to my good razor and never regretted my decision after that.


2. The stuff that you should buy if you get into straight razor are: The razor, a badger, a wetshaving soap, a preshave oil, a strop and some oil to keep the razor in good shape. You will also need a piece of balsa wood with some chromium oxide paste. For the honing stone, wait for the need for it. I bought one and still have not used it yet after a year since the chromium oxide has been enough for now (but my razor is really good at keeping an edge). I also recommend getting an alum block (I use it after the shave and it replace the aftershave expect for the perfume). You will also need a stitching pencil since there's a learning curve and you will cut yourself from time to time. Nothing bad, but enough to appreciate it.


3. Be mentally ready to have to relearn how to shave. It's one of the most fun aspect of it, but you must be ready to spend more time shaving while learning and having some less good shaves at first. But the hardest part is only the first weeks. From my experience, after a month I was doing ok, after 3 I was starting to do a second pass. Now I am comfortable with 2 pass and it's enough for me. Maybe someday I'll go for the 3 pass, but I don't feel the need for it.


4. Using a straight razor is FUN, SATISFYING, gives you an awesome shave (only when you get your technique right), and does not take much more time than shaving with other means once used to it. I am happy to have made the move and I would recommend it to anyone that has the desire to try it.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Lanx on Fri, 04 July 2014, 14:13:13
got a 12k stone and strop + compound coming my way, need some new knives to play with, or a decent straight razor?
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: iLLucionist on Fri, 04 July 2014, 14:35:06
As I shave with oil, I tossed away my Gilette Fusion ProGlide, as the 'aloe vera strip' wears of in one shave (completely). Also, the shave is not that good IMHO and the knifes are horribly expensive, especially considering the price. Currently using a Wilkinson (sometimes called Shick? As in Opel - Vauxhaull I think) with three blades, it works pretty darn well. I can use the blades for like... 15-20 shaves, shaving with oil. And the shave is really sharp. Really like it.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Lanx on Fri, 04 July 2014, 16:49:25
friend sent me a link

http://lifehacker.com/shave-with-olive-oil-to-save-money-and-get-smoother-ski-1489825066

shave with olive oil?
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: poeee on Fri, 04 July 2014, 17:40:26
friend sent me a link

http://lifehacker.com/shave-with-olive-oil-to-save-money-and-get-smoother-ski-1489825066

shave with olive oil?

Funny you mention that.  Last night I contemplated using grape seed oil as a pre shave oil.  Grape seed oil is the main ingredient in a lot of beard oils.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Skull_Angel on Sat, 05 July 2014, 13:36:46
I liked the idea of shaving with oil to save time and more easily shape/style, but in practice it didn't seem to work well for me. After trying out EV olive oil and mineral oil for a few weeks, I just couldn't get use to the way the [safety] razor would tend to suction to my skin, it seems like using oils would work better for razors that had very little surface area to contact skin. On the upside $2.70 pucks of VDH have last me over several months of regular shaving now and do a very nice job (I even got my SO into using it after she ran out of canned goo and I whipped up a bowl for her  ;D ).
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Lanx on Fri, 11 July 2014, 09:40:10
got my 12k stone, really puts that much of a sharper edge, i'm getting a new strop with compound soon too. this strop will only be for the compound, i still use my old belt to final strop. now i'm looking on ebay for non rusty vintage straight (non shavette) razors i guess.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Skull_Angel on Fri, 11 July 2014, 23:46:43
got my 12k stone, really puts that much of a sharper edge, i'm getting a new strop with compound soon too. this strop will only be for the compound, i still use my old belt to final strop. now i'm looking on ebay for non rusty vintage straight (non shavette) razors i guess.

Sweet stuff, I think Whippeddog.com has some of the best deals on straight razors with their "sight unseen" deals. Iirc, Larry makes sure they're functional pieces and shave ready; they're not all pretty, but everyone that's picked up on the deal says they've gotten good steel out of it.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: tribade on Sat, 12 July 2014, 00:12:34
Just tried out the ikon dlc slant I bought from maggards. It was easily the best shave I've ever had with a de. And I also picked up some clean vetiver aftershave, which I've been enjoying immensely. Highly recommend both products!
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Lanx on Sat, 12 July 2014, 23:37:15
28 bucks for sight unseen, guess it's better than buying from some ebay guy, sent the invoice, lets see how much is shipping.
Title: Re: The Wetshaving Thread
Post by: Malphas on Sun, 13 July 2014, 17:44:49
My wife picked up some Shark blades for me, and after using Feathers, they just aren't for me.  Willing to ship out packs of 5 for the price of shipping - I got 100 of them.  My hair is just too thick and I prefer the ultra sharp blades more. 

As to shaving cream/soap, I am just about out of my Prorasso and would like some recommendations for replacement.  I still like it, but would like to find something that gets a little thicker lather.  I am using a badger brush and Merkur razor.   I am also nearly out of my Clubman Pinoud after shave and would like to try something new as well.  I really like the heavy alcohol feel of it and had the Clubman Special Reserve before which I really liked the smell of.  The Pinoud has a decent scent, but wears out too quickly.

My favorite hard soap so far is the Tabac one. Works super nice and smells nice too. I also like to use an alum block after shaving instead or in addition to aftershave. A block cost like 15-20$ and last forever. I like it because it's a nice soft antiseptic so if your aftershave does not have alcohol then you sill have the alum to use as antiseptic. But for a cream soap I only tried to proraso. I find it a good soap when I am too lazy to use an hard soap.

I use Tabac eau de toilette as my daily fragrance for just smelling well groomed and inoffensive. I agree it's a good scent.

Also, on the topic of hard soaps, I have this kicking around because it's dirt cheap and has an interesting smell.

(http://badgerandblade.com/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=162638&d=1305205664)