Is it weird for guys to play female characters in games (like games where you have a choice)?
Guys he's talking about games where you have a choice in what gender to play
GunZ: The Duel was the only game where I picked a female character because they had faster animations or something.
Is it weird for guys to play female characters in games (like games where you have a choice)?
This is something I'm really curious about, personally it's not something I do... I might have done in Borderlands... but only becasue of the character class... would love to know the mentality behind the reasoning (why some guys do and others don't, and why there are so many that seem to in MMO's etc etc)
This is something I'm really curious about, personally it's not something I do... I might have done in Borderlands... but only becasue of the character class... would love to know the mentality behind the reasoning (why some guys do and others don't, and why there are so many that seem to in MMO's etc etc)
A ton do it in MMOs because they know they can get free stuff out of it. Guys in MMOs can be really pathetic when it comes to women online.
As for other guys in games where gender makes no real difference on how the character plays, I think it really depends. I think some guys sexualize the character and like having something "hot" on screen all the time, some do it to see if it affects the story at all if you play male or female, and I wouldn't be surprised if some did it because it enables them to explore other elements of themselves in a safe environment.
I can say that if I had a daughter and she liked watching me play games, I'd probably play a non-sexualized female character more often since it shows her from an early age that women can be strong and assertive without forfeiting their femininity or having to rely on their sexuality.
I spend enough time being myself as it is. I don't want to pretend to be a virtual me.
I spend enough time being myself as it is. I don't want to pretend to be a virtual me.
What if, your super awesome though, then you could be cyber awesome!!!!!
This is something I'm really curious about, personally it's not something I do... I might have done in Borderlands... but only becasue of the character class... would love to know the mentality behind the reasoning (why some guys do and others don't, and why there are so many that seem to in MMO's etc etc)
A ton do it in MMOs because they know they can get free stuff out of it. Guys in MMOs can be really pathetic when it comes to women online.
As for other guys in games where gender makes no real difference on how the character plays, I think it really depends. I think some guys sexualize the character and like having something "hot" on screen all the time, some do it to see if it affects the story at all if you play male or female, and I wouldn't be surprised if some did it because it enables them to explore other elements of themselves in a safe environment.
I can say that if I had a daughter and she liked watching me play games, I'd probably play a non-sexualized female character more often since it shows her from an early age that women can be strong and assertive without forfeiting their femininity or having to rely on their sexuality.
Yeah, but with the number of men who do it on an MMO it seems more likely you'll find an actual woman playing it with a male avatar, least that's how it seems... I guess a good example would be Playstation Home where there are whole groups of guys pretending to be women just to **** with people lol...
though you're probably right now I think about it some more... though I don't play MMOs :P
In many games the males are brute force type of play, while females tend to be more finesse and therefore more technical at times. Some people prefer that style of gameplay.
3. Females always have more clothing options than males.
4. Why would I want to be myself in a video game? I spend enough time being myself as it is. I don't want to pretend to be a virtual me.
5. Female characters get given free stuff and help more often than male characters.
Honestly, some male character in MMOs look really bad. Take an example of the Blood Elves male and the Dranaei male, do you really want to play those? I don't think so, especially when the females for those races look way better.
It's easier for me to like an attractive woman than an attractive man. That simple.
I just made a male toon on Neverwinter...and then I thought.."Why did I not make a female". Oh wells. All my main WoW toons have always been male though. My monster hunter toon has to be female though, h'yeahh!
A lot of the korean's MMO like to dress their female character slutty-ish. I have played 2 KR MMOs so far (Lineage 2 and Tera) and both of them had slutty female outfit. But to be honest, MMOs tend to just make female character wear those kind of clothes, look at GW2, stuff like thisShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/XlShAAM.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/8026MOB.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Qs93pBN.jpg)
ahem.. on Tera I barely got it to level like 20 or so, and it was on the biggest server at the time with like over an hour queue during those events. Lineage 2, that was a long time ago but I think it was Sieghart then I got on Bartz when I decided to play again. I played a lot of L2 on private servers though, KR mmo leveling were brutal back then.
Oh, one more KR MMO with slutty outfit, Aion which was also a huge waste of time.
I think Tera wins the overall sluttiest outfits that I have seen. Not that it bothers me, but just saying... ;)
My main and most of my alts in WoW are female.
If you're going to be staring at this character for potentially hundreds of hours, why not make it a bit more pleasant? *shrug*
ahem.. on Tera I barely got it to level like 20 or so, and it was on the biggest server at the time with like over an hour queue during those events. Lineage 2, that was a long time ago but I think it was Sieghart then I got on Bartz when I decided to play again. I played a lot of L2 on private servers though, KR mmo leveling were brutal back then.
Oh, one more KR MMO with slutty outfit, Aion which was also a huge waste of time.
Ah, that probably would have been Valley of Titans at the time if it was around when the game first launched. And yeah, Korean MMO leveling was indeed brutal back then lol. What level was your highest on L2 retail? If you were on Sieghart and then Bartz, you probably would have heard of clans like Catalyst and Uprising? Aion just wasn't properly westernized imo. It wasn't really a horrible game, I liked how it made you work with people in your guilds and had objectives in the world to pvp over (world bosses, forts).I think Tera wins the overall sluttiest outfits that I have seen. Not that it bothers me, but just saying... ;)
Tera outfits were pretty good for the most part. I wish they had more template varieties though, like Aion did. Aion might have had a lot of faults, but one thing they did exceptionally well was the amount of customizability for characters themselves and armor templates/skins.
You still play? We need to hook up some game time yo.
You still play? We need to hook up some game time yo.
Sure thang. My main's on Illidan, but I've got a few alts on Korgath. Been meaning to start up a toon or two with my buddy on Sargeras.
i've played mmo's for 10 years so quite simply a guy that plays a female is one or more.
1. horny (i.e. likes to look at boobs/but when running)
2. e**** (they pretend to be girls to get free stuff)
3. e-attention-**** (they just like attention
4. just decide "eh why not" (and once you level up a long time and like that character, you kinda stuck with it)
and that's it i've met literally hundreds of these "mangina's" and it's one of those traits or a combination.
now, i realize there are actually women that play men, these are very, very, very dumb women or don't exist and are guys lying that they're women but playing a man. I've met a few hundred women while playing mmo's and not a single one has ever had a male character.
i always play a guy, except in mass effect, the voice actor for the female lead is jennifer hale and shes the best female voice actress around, puts the male lead voice actor to shame (whoever he is).
You still play? We need to hook up some game time yo.
Sure thang. My main's on Illidan, but I've got a few alts on Korgath. Been meaning to start up a toon or two with my buddy on Sargeras.
I have 18 toons on Hyjal. Horde and Alliance lol
i've played mmo's for 10 years so quite simply a guy that plays a female is one or more.
1. horny (i.e. likes to look at boobs/but when running)
2. e**** (they pretend to be girls to get free stuff)
3. e-attention-**** (they just like attention
4. just decide "eh why not" (and once you level up a long time and like that character, you kinda stuck with it)
and that's it i've met literally hundreds of these "mangina's" and it's one of those traits or a combination.
now, i realize there are actually women that play men, these are very, very, very dumb women or don't exist and are guys lying that they're women but playing a man. I've met a few hundred women while playing mmo's and not a single one has ever had a male character.
i always play a guy, except in mass effect, the voice actor for the female lead is jennifer hale and shes the best female voice actress around, puts the male lead voice actor to shame (whoever he is).
Lolwat. Contrary to what you might think, some of us actually don't care to act like those girl gamers (not to be confused with actual gamer girls). I roll a male toon in every MMO because to me, they are more pleasing to look at and I would rather people who don't know me assume that I'm a guy and respect me for my skills and playing ability in a game rather than like me simply because I have boobs. I've been in a number of top/highly regarded guilds in several MMOs and can hold my own when it comes to end game pve content and pvp.
You still play? We need to hook up some game time yo.
Sure thang. My main's on Illidan, but I've got a few alts on Korgath. Been meaning to start up a toon or two with my buddy on Sargeras.
I have 18 toons on Hyjal. Horde and Alliance lol
Ah dang! I'm on Darkspear! Wish we could play together sometime, game is getting kind of boring to me :/
Gupgup
now, i realize there are actually women that play men, these are very, very, very dumb women or don't exist and are guys lying that they're women but playing a man. I've met a few hundred women while playing mmo's and not a single one has ever had a male character.
I have 18 toons on Hyjal. Horde and Alliance lol
/Miss Hyjal I played there towards the end BC/start of Wrath with Advent fury.
Ah dang! I'm on Darkspear! Wish we could play together sometime, game is getting kind of boring to me :/
When I made my slayer on tera, I felt the look of the female characters was so sexualized that I was uncomfortable playing around my kids. I couldn't even consider playing an elin, those toons are downright creepy.Some women don't like playing female characters for this reason as well. They are designed by men to be sexually stimulating, which often brings forth pubescent boys worst thoughts. Which they often fail to muzzle.
I notice that other players will be kinder to other players (group settings) to players they consider to be females. I have had people out of the blue give my character gear and money in game. Once on star trek online a guy gave my character a tier 5 ship and 2 million credits, not a thing asked in return. Now I don't know if this is because my toon was "hot" (I like good looking toons), or the guy was genuinely nice. I mean he was nice either way, but I never had people be overly kind to a dude toon of mine.
now, i realize there are actually women that play men, these are very, very, very dumb women or don't exist and are guys lying that they're women but playing a man. I've met a few hundred women while playing mmo's and not a single one has ever had a male character.Yeah, and they will also probably tell you they don't wear makeup every day either.
I would rather people who don't know me assume that I'm a guy and respect me for my skills and playing ability in a game rather than like me simply because I have boobs.This.
now, i realize there are actually women that play men, these are very, very, very dumb women or don't exist and are guys lying that they're women but playing a man. I've met a few hundred women while playing mmo's and not a single one has ever had a male character.Yeah, and they will also probably tell you they don't wear makeup every day either.I would rather people who don't know me assume that I'm a guy and respect me for my skills and playing ability in a game rather than like me simply because I have boobs.This.
Either assume you are a guy, or at the least ignore sex/gender entirely.
The hell that can break loose when "a girl" utterly dominates a guy, can be a real pain in the butt and ruin the game dynamics or the game entirely. It's easier just to lay low, and kick butt.
I don't wear make up on a daily basis. I actually don't ever wear makeup at all unless its an occasion like a wedding or something.
And its not even so much not wanting to clash with egos. I just don't want preferential treatment or anything like that, that girl gamers try to get when they openly flaunt themselves as a female. I've earned my way up to some of the better and well-known and established MMO guilds because of my skill and dedication in games and I want to keep it that way. There will always be haters of course, but I know that I earned my place no matter what anyone says and that's what matters.
I don't wear make up on a daily basis. I actually don't ever wear makeup at all unless its an occasion like a wedding or something.
And its not even so much not wanting to clash with egos. I just don't want preferential treatment or anything like that, that girl gamers try to get when they openly flaunt themselves as a female. I've earned my way up to some of the better and well-known and established MMO guilds because of my skill and dedication in games and I want to keep it that way. There will always be haters of course, but I know that I earned my place no matter what anyone says and that's what matters.
I am very glad I quit wow when I did, from what I have heard, they went full on stupid and made doing dailies a requirement.
I am very glad I quit wow when I did, from what I have heard, they went full on stupid and made doing dailies a requirement.
It's not a requirement if you don't care about vendor loot or mounts. You can get geared up pretty easily from Raid Finder. And sadly enough, I had no problem out-dpsing or out-healing people with full on raid gear from normal raids.
I am very glad I quit wow when I did, from what I have heard, they went full on stupid and made doing dailies a requirement.
It's not a requirement if you don't care about vendor loot or mounts. You can get geared up pretty easily from Raid Finder. And sadly enough, I had no problem out-dpsing or out-healing people with full on raid gear from normal raids.
Are you really surprised? lol I actually came back to wow for like 2 months back in that dragon something raid and that was when they introduced the raid finder I believe (I quit after killing heroic rag so that was a long time ago and I believe raid finder wasn't out yet). And all I remembered was people being horrible at the game in those raid finders dungeons, my gear was way far behind everyone and my friend and I would just completely destroy people on DPS which is very very sad.
On the other note, I still have a tons of people in my friend list playing wow and all of them said that you are required to do those rep things to get tokens or something I was really confused.
Well, you are right about them tailoring the game towards casuals.
Stop whining and play WoW with me..... or Tera. Either works....
;)
Stop whining and play WoW with me..... or Tera. Either works....
;)
who are you talking to?
Not to be rude, but why don't you guys make another thread to talk about wow and dailies.
Not to be rude, but why don't you guys make another thread to talk about wow and dailies.
Welcome to the internet.
Not to be rude, but why don't you guys make another thread to talk about wow and dailies.
Welcome to the internet.
You misspelled geekhack.
I wish more games were about actual role-playing. However, I don't think I could play female characters then.
Come on, no one's going to fess up to enjoying the ambiguity of opposite-gendered online personas? A lot of the standard answers I'm seeing here smack of old-fashioned insecure machismo.
I've never spent any real time with an MMO, but I rotate my avatars pretty frequently on the various forums I visit, and a lot of the time they are feminine in one way or another. I choose them for various reasons (usually what strikes me as interesting, beautiful, or fun at the moment), and I try not to filter them based on how I anticipate others will judge me.
That said, sometimes they are deliberately feminine, specifically because I loathe old-fashioned insecure machismo and enjoy, as I said above, the ambiguity they create. Halverson's girlshark avatar is a great example of this, whether or not he intends it to be or chose it for that reason.
Online identities are an easy and nearly risk-free way to explore different personas, traits, and roles (this is also why so many people are *******s online). So what if some of those identities are cross-gendered?
Come on, no one's going to fess up to enjoying the ambiguity of opposite-gendered online personas? A lot of the standard answers I'm seeing here smack of old-fashioned insecure machismo.
I've never spent any real time with an MMO, but I rotate my avatars pretty frequently on the various forums I visit, and a lot of the time they are feminine in one way or another. I choose them for various reasons (usually what strikes me as interesting, beautiful, or fun at the moment), and I try not to filter them based on how I anticipate others will judge me.
That said, sometimes they are deliberately feminine, specifically because I loathe old-fashioned insecure machismo and enjoy, as I said above, the ambiguity they create. Halverson's girlshark avatar is a great example of this, whether or not he intends it to be or chose it for that reason.
Online identities are an easy and nearly risk-free way to explore different personas, traits, and roles (this is also why so many people are *******s online). So what if some of those identities are cross-gendered?
I'm not really sure avatars can be used like that, simply because most people just assume that your male unless otherwise stated. Having a female avy or something never (least for me) infers anything meaningful
Come on, no one's going to fess up to enjoying the ambiguity of opposite-gendered online personas? A lot of the standard answers I'm seeing here smack of old-fashioned insecure machismo.
I've never spent any real time with an MMO, but I rotate my avatars pretty frequently on the various forums I visit, and a lot of the time they are feminine in one way or another. I choose them for various reasons (usually what strikes me as interesting, beautiful, or fun at the moment), and I try not to filter them based on how I anticipate others will judge me.
That said, sometimes they are deliberately feminine, specifically because I loathe old-fashioned insecure machismo and enjoy, as I said above, the ambiguity they create. Halverson's girlshark avatar is a great example of this, whether or not he intends it to be or chose it for that reason.
Online identities are an easy and nearly risk-free way to explore different personas, traits, and roles (this is also why so many people are *******s online). So what if some of those identities are cross-gendered?
I'm not really sure avatars can be used like that, simply because most people just assume that your male unless otherwise stated. Having a female avy or something never (least for me) infers anything meaningful
I think in a rpg environment the player can infer whatever they like to their avatar, but like you said that doesn't translate to anyone else unless overtly stated. I consider all players to be male, and if someone states otherwise and I would still be skeptical until I hear them on raidcall. The reason I would be skeptical is because unless someone outright asked, why would anyone tell you their gender in game unless they were trying convice you of something? I've never had that happen yet, but I have had "girls" who refused to voicechat for whatever reason and I've always wondered.Show Image(http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh15/nbr3bagshotrow/Smilies/bth_Thinking.gif)
I don't think gender has any impact in how you play/interact with a game, or at least shouldn't. So it's relevance is seemingly negligible, I've had people tell me they are girls when playing Starcraft 2, which is great and all but I don't actually care because the only thing that matters is how they play the game...
i've played mmo's for 10 years so quite simply a guy that plays a female is one or more.
1. horny (i.e. likes to look at boobs/but when running)
2. e**** (they pretend to be girls to get free stuff)
3. e-attention-**** (they just like attention
4. just decide "eh why not" (and once you level up a long time and like that character, you kinda stuck with it)
and that's it i've met literally hundreds of these "mangina's" and it's one of those traits or a combination.
now, i realize there are actually women that play men, these are very, very, very dumb women or don't exist and are guys lying that they're women but playing a man. I've met a few hundred women while playing mmo's and not a single one has ever had a male character.
i always play a guy, except in mass effect, the voice actor for the female lead is jennifer hale and shes the best female voice actress around, puts the male lead voice actor to shame (whoever he is).
Lolwat. Contrary to what you might think, some of us actually don't care to act like those girl gamers (not to be confused with actual gamer girls). I roll a male toon in every MMO because to me, they are more pleasing to look at and I would rather people who don't know me assume that I'm a guy and respect me for my skills and playing ability in a game rather than like me simply because I have boobs. I've been in a number of top/highly regarded guilds in several MMOs and can hold my own when it comes to end game pve content and pvp.
It's easier for me to like an attractive woman than an attractive man. That simple.
Come on, no one's going to fess up to enjoying the ambiguity of opposite-gendered online personas? A lot of the standard answers I'm seeing here smack of old-fashioned insecure machismo.
I've never spent any real time with an MMO, but I rotate my avatars pretty frequently on the various forums I visit, and a lot of the time they are feminine in one way or another. I choose them for various reasons (usually what strikes me as interesting, beautiful, or fun at the moment), and I try not to filter them based on how I anticipate others will judge me.
That said, sometimes they are deliberately feminine, specifically because I loathe old-fashioned insecure machismo and enjoy, as I said above, the ambiguity they create. Halverson's girlshark avatar is a great example of this, whether or not he intends it to be or chose it for that reason.
Online identities are an easy and nearly risk-free way to explore different personas, traits, and roles (this is also why so many people are *******s online). So what if some of those identities are cross-gendered?
I'm not really sure avatars can be used like that, simply because most people just assume that your male unless otherwise stated. Having a female avy or something never (least for me) infers anything meaningful
I think in a rpg environment the player can infer whatever they like to their avatar, but like you said that doesn't translate to anyone else unless overtly stated. I consider all players to be male, and if someone states otherwise and I would still be skeptical until I hear them on raidcall. The reason I would be skeptical is because unless someone outright asked, why would anyone tell you their gender in game unless they were trying convice you of something? I've never had that happen yet, but I have had "girls" who refused to voicechat for whatever reason and I've always wondered.Show Image(http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh15/nbr3bagshotrow/Smilies/bth_Thinking.gif)
I don't think gender has any impact in how you play/interact with a game, or at least shouldn't. So it's relevance is seemingly negligible, I've had people tell me they are girls when playing Starcraft 2, which is great and all but I don't actually care because the only thing that matters is how they play the game...
You're not playing yourself in a game (generally), you're playing a character that you made! Nothing's wrong with playing either gender.If only people understood that better.
You're not playing yourself in a game (generally), you're playing a character that you made! Nothing's wrong with playing either gender.If only people understood that better.
A lot of female characters in games I play are set as ranged characters while male characters are set as bulky melee characters. Therefore most of the time I choose female characters not because they're female but because they're usually the only ones with ranged capabilities...
Examples?A lot of female characters in games I play are set as ranged characters while male characters are set as bulky melee characters. Therefore most of the time I choose female characters not because they're female but because they're usually the only ones with ranged capabilities...
Path of exile does this as well.
Examples?A lot of female characters in games I play are set as ranged characters while male characters are set as bulky melee characters. Therefore most of the time I choose female characters not because they're female but because they're usually the only ones with ranged capabilities...
I know the diablo series is guilty of that.
it about the choices you could make, i recently got my wife dark souls: die edition or whatever, she instantly went to create a girl. 20 hours later i'm playing her character.
1. she threw the controller at me and said, horror! (she hates horror)
2. she wants to see the story
3. i looked at a faq, i'm only 10% done! fck this game
for this game it really makes no difference you're basically a skeleton all the time!
i was playing dark souls, and my wife was like "oh is that still my character?" i'm like yea, how'd you know? cuz the character is all armoured up. She's like, cuz she struts and walks like a girl.