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Title: Keycap puller dimensions
Post by: AGmurdercore on Sun, 05 May 2013, 07:13:32
Soo long story short i need a keycap puller but i can not afford to spent like 13-15$ for one + shipping so i will try to make one. Can anybody give me the dimensions of a standart key puller like this one
(http://i.stack.imgur.com/6KsM6.jpg)
Thank you in advance!

P.S. I know i can just use paper clip but i want to have one decent looking :)
Title: Re: Keycap puller dimensions
Post by: fohat.digs on Sun, 05 May 2013, 08:42:47
Numerical dimensions are less useful.

Just gauge it with an actual key. It needs to be "just" large enough to fit around the key, and no larger, or else it will not fit between the next one.

PS - I think that elitekeyboards sell the Leopold one for about $6, and that is my favorite.
Title: Re: Keycap puller dimensions
Post by: AGmurdercore on Sun, 05 May 2013, 08:48:50
Numerical dimensions are less useful.

Just gauge it with an actual key. It needs to be "just" large enough to fit around the key, and no larger, or else it will not fit between the next one.

PS - I think that elitekeyboards sell the Leopold one for about $6, and that is my favorite.
Ah thank you did not think of that about the keycap dimension :D

About the prices - yes they are 5-6$ but i am from Bulgaria so the shipping is at least another 5$ even more, thats why i want to just craft one myself :)
Title: Re: Keycap puller dimensions
Post by: regicide on Sun, 05 May 2013, 17:38:40
You should be able to guage the size by looking at the keys you will be pulling, hopefully you can see the action required in the following pictures

(http://cdn.wasdkeyboards.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/w/i/wirekeypuller2.jpg)
(http://limages.vr-zone.net/body/13752/keycap-puller.jpg.jpeg)

I have also seen some homemade key cap pullers that appear to be string or possibly cable ties
(http://cdn.forum.lowyat.net/uploads/attach-23/post-445623-1325140057_thumb.jpg)

I cant link the post itself (the link it gives is incorrect), it is a few posts down on this page
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2096177/+1260 (https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2096177/+1260)
Title: Re: Keycap puller dimensions
Post by: Jocelyn on Sun, 05 May 2013, 17:40:00
 :)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img13/3939/puller.jpg)
Title: Re: Keycap puller dimensions
Post by: linziyi on Sun, 05 May 2013, 17:41:09
How do you pull out the longer keys like shift, enter and spacebar?
Title: Re: Keycap puller dimensions
Post by: regicide on Sun, 05 May 2013, 17:43:54
How do you pull out the longer keys like shift, enter and spacebar?

You have to be careful with those keys as they often have a metal 'stabilizer' bar which could be damaged by just yanking
(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee395/techdyanmic/rk2.png)

It is usually a matter of lifting the key up enough to see the stabilizer and then removing the stabilizer often by sliding in a certain direction or pulling it out of the clips (there are a few different mechanisms for stabilizers)
Title: Re: Keycap puller dimensions
Post by: Jocelyn on Sun, 05 May 2013, 17:47:34
You have to be careful with those keys as they often have a metal 'stabilizer' bar which could be damaged by just yanking

Yes, I am grateful for Cherry stabs :)

How do you pull out the longer keys like shift, enter and spacebar?

Lift half off, then insert/wedge something on that side (spudger or whatever) and pull up on the other side with the puller :)
Title: Re: Keycap puller dimensions
Post by: linziyi on Sun, 05 May 2013, 17:53:11
But what about the other type of stabilizer (cherry i think?)?
Title: Re: Re: Keycap puller dimensions
Post by: Jocelyn on Sun, 05 May 2013, 17:58:16
But what about the other type of stabilizer (cherry i think?)?

Nothing to worry about. Only Co-star stabs are a PITA.
Title: Re: Keycap puller dimensions
Post by: regicide on Sun, 05 May 2013, 17:59:16
Cherry stabilizers are pretty easy to deal with as the key has 3 stems rather than 1, so it is generally safe to just pull upwards.
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k221/undarken/Leopold%20FC500R/2.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/5hHJS.jpg)

The sliding wire type which are easier to damage (you can't just pull)
(http://i.imgur.com/K3olP.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/mhfdG.jpg)
Title: Re: Keycap puller dimensions
Post by: linziyi on Sun, 05 May 2013, 18:03:57
But how to use the ring style keypuller to get them out?
Title: Re: Keycap puller dimensions
Post by: regicide on Sun, 05 May 2013, 18:09:10
But how to use the ring style keypuller to get them out?
You first pull the key up a bit to expose the wire (and pull the key off the stem) then slide the hoops left and right to remove them off the wires, the first slide will often require a bit of force.

To put them back on you do the inverse, slide one side on, slide on the other (this will require a bit of force) and then push the key back on to the stem.

EDIT: searching should be able to find entire threads on the subject, goodluck and don't blame me if/when you break a key  ;D
Title: Re: Keycap puller dimensions
Post by: linziyi on Sun, 05 May 2013, 18:13:19
TY!