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Title: Nonsense idioms!
Post by: TheQsanity on Mon, 06 May 2013, 04:25:18
This thread is dedicated to common sayings that don't make sense!
I'll start us off:
In America "falling head over heels" has a similar meaning to being "swept off your feet" or falling in love.
Apparently the original saying was "heels over head" and means you are excited that you do cartwheels.

I am curious to hear what other people from around the world say as well as other sayings in and around America!
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Post by: rowdy on Mon, 06 May 2013, 17:20:23
A toast: Here's mud in your eye!
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Post by: clickclack on Mon, 06 May 2013, 17:37:00
Shoot the Sh1t
-casually talk
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Post by: keymaster on Mon, 06 May 2013, 17:52:11
"This is Amurrica! Speak English!"
Title: Nonsense idioms!
Post by: YoungMichael88 on Mon, 06 May 2013, 18:01:00
"I like the cut of your jib"
Meaning I like your style/demeanor

Origin: the front most, triangular sails on old ships were called a jib.  Each country had a different style of jib.
Title: Nonsense idioms!
Post by: YoungMichael88 on Mon, 06 May 2013, 18:07:52
Oh this one too
"Three sheets to the wind"
Meaning very drunk

Origin: again this saying originates from sailing. The ropes at the bottom corners of sails are called "sheets" if three of them are loose it causes the sails to move freely in the wind causing the ship to sway about like a drunken sailor.
Title: Re: Nonsense idioms!
Post by: hashbaz on Mon, 06 May 2013, 18:09:16
A pet peeve of mine, similar to the one cited in the OP: "I could care less".  Its sense is the opposite of its literal meaning.  The "correct" version obviously is "I couldn't care less", but people often say and write the former.
Title: Re: Nonsense idioms!
Post by: DamienG on Mon, 06 May 2013, 18:11:50
"Kill two birds with one stone."

Who the hell throws stones at birds. Why would you want to kill them?

And stones aren't exactly scarce so you're gaining what exactly?

[)amien
Title: Re: Nonsense idioms!
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 06 May 2013, 18:28:24
Grouse.

(Something Victorians say - I was brought up in South Australia.  I still can't get used to it meaning "good" or "great".)
Title: Re: Nonsense idioms!
Post by: Michael on Mon, 06 May 2013, 18:45:44
"Kill two birds with one stone."

Who the hell throws stones at birds. Why would you want to kill them?

And stones aren't exactly scarce so you're gaining what exactly?

[)amien


This might have been back when people needed to kill birds for food or something, and perhaps there was a shortage of rocks? :P
Title: Re: Nonsense idioms!
Post by: sth on Mon, 06 May 2013, 18:51:10
"Kill two birds with one stone."

Who the hell throws stones at birds. Why would you want to kill them?

And stones aren't exactly scarce so you're gaining what exactly?

[)amien


This might have been back when people needed to kill birds for food or something, and perhaps there was a shortage of rocks? :P
i think you'll find it is derived from the original form of the phrase 'get two birds stoned at once'
Title: Re: Nonsense idioms!
Post by: noisyturtle on Mon, 06 May 2013, 19:09:10
"As the actress said to the bishop." I heard this a few places and have absolutely no idea what it could possibly mean. Also "A stitch in time saves nine." I mean I get it, but that doesn't make me hate it anymore.
Title: Re: Nonsense idioms!
Post by: TheQsanity on Mon, 06 May 2013, 19:54:21
Grouse.

(Something Victorians say - I was brought up in South Australia.  I still can't get used to it meaning "good" or "great".)

I know at least in California we say "sick" which means "cool". Other places say "ill"
"grouse" is a new one though
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Post by: quickcrx702 on Mon, 06 May 2013, 20:19:24
"Kill two birds with one stone."

Who the hell throws stones at birds. Why would you want to kill them?

And stones aren't exactly scarce so you're gaining what exactly?

[)amien


This might have been back when people needed to kill birds for food or something, and perhaps there was a shortage of rocks? :P
i think you'll find it is derived from the original form of the phrase 'get two birds stoned at once'

Real badasses kill two stones with one bird.
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Post by: daerid on Mon, 06 May 2013, 23:36:47
"Kill two birds with one stone."

Who the hell throws stones at birds. Why would you want to kill them?

And stones aren't exactly scarce so you're gaining what exactly?

[)amien

This is from back when people used to go hunting with slings and rocks. Being able to kill two birds with one stone would then be a very fortuitous, but very rare event, as only killing one of the birds would cause the other to fly away, and you'd lose the opportunity for more food. Thus it also implies efficiency.
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Post by: bavman on Tue, 07 May 2013, 01:50:26
Not really an idiom, but something that was brought up a while ago is the phrase "over exaggerating". Exaggerating means to blow out of proportions, so over exaggerating just becomes redundant, yet is a very popular phrase
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Post by: YoungMichael88 on Tue, 07 May 2013, 02:30:49
Not really an idiom, but something that was brought up a while ago is the phrase "over exaggerating". Exaggerating means to blow out of proportions, so over exaggerating just becomes redundant, yet is a very popular phrase
Don't even get me started on irregardless.
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Post by: davkol on Tue, 07 May 2013, 03:06:57
"Kill two birds with one stone."

Who the hell throws stones at birds. Why would you want to kill them?

And stones aren't exactly scarce so you're gaining what exactly?

[)amien


This might have been back when people needed to kill birds for food or something, and perhaps there was a shortage of rocks? :P
i think you'll find it is derived from the original form of the phrase 'get two birds stoned at once'

Real badasses kill two stones with one bird.

Angry Birds!
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Post by: Krogenar on Tue, 07 May 2013, 06:12:51
"holy smokes!"
- traditional Irish/Italian saying, used to express alarm, excitement or wonder -- it actually refers to the signal used by the Vatican to signal the selection of a new pope. I believe they cardinals deliberate, vote, and if they have no decision then they release a white smoke. If they do select a new pope, they release black smoke, and the crowds go wild in celebration. Hence, the term, holy smokes!
Title: Re: Nonsense idioms!
Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 07 May 2013, 08:27:40
A pet peeve of mine, similar to the one cited in the OP: "I could care less".  Its sense is the opposite of its literal meaning.  The "correct" version obviously is "I couldn't care less", but people often say and write the former.

This!

Also - "whatever" is a perfect response to certain questions, but when used wrongfully it becomes ridiculous
Title: Re: Nonsense idioms!
Post by: mmmty on Tue, 07 May 2013, 08:35:14
whatever  :rolleyes:
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Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 07 May 2013, 08:39:09
WHARRGARBL. I mean really, it's just a sound.
or
ASDF. That's just four keys on a keyboard right next to each other.

But isn't nonsense great?
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Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 07 May 2013, 09:43:20
"It is what it is"

This is said all the time at work.....I mean really....do we have to keep reminding ourselves it is what it is.....it's not like it isn't what its not would be any different.
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Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 07 May 2013, 09:46:24
"It is what it is"

This is said all the time at work.....I mean really....do we have to keep reminding ourselves it is what it is.....it's not like it isn't what its not would be any different.
Technically, if something isn't what it's not, then it actually is what it is.
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Post by: SmallFry on Tue, 07 May 2013, 09:56:14
"It is what it is"

This is said all the time at work.....I mean really....do we have to keep reminding ourselves it is what it is.....it's not like it isn't what its not would be any different.
Technically, if something isn't what it's not, then it actually is what it is.
I'll take that as it it what it is.
Title: Re: Nonsense idioms!
Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 07 May 2013, 10:00:59
"It is what it is"

This is said all the time at work.....I mean really....do we have to keep reminding ourselves it is what it is.....it's not like it isn't what its not would be any different.

I kind of like "it is what it is" because there are a lot of people who live in their own private worlds of denial and delusion.
Title: Re: Nonsense idioms!
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 07 May 2013, 10:01:58
"It is what it is"

This is said all the time at work.....I mean really....do we have to keep reminding ourselves it is what it is.....it's not like it isn't what its not would be any different.
Technically, if something isn't what it's not, then it actually is what it is.
I'll take that as it it what it is.

"oh the insanity"
is another that comes to mind :p


"It is what it is"

This is said all the time at work.....I mean really....do we have to keep reminding ourselves it is what it is.....it's not like it isn't what its not would be any different.

I kind of like "it is what it is" because there are a lot of people who live in their own private worlds of denial and delusion.


this is true....it just gets used way too often here, some people its almost every sentence  ???
Title: Re: Nonsense idioms!
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 07 May 2013, 10:07:40
"It is what it is"

This is said all the time at work.....I mean really....do we have to keep reminding ourselves it is what it is.....it's not like it isn't what its not would be any different.
I kind of like "it is what it is" because there are a lot of people who live in their own private worlds of denial and delusion.
this is true....it just gets used way too often here, some people its almost every sentence  ???
Technically, if that is what their sentence is, then... well, you get the picture.
Title: Re: Nonsense idioms!
Post by: chewyfruitloop on Tue, 07 May 2013, 10:08:14
Quote
I could care less about....

I hear that a lot from Americans

....so you care about it then?

where as in the Englands we say

Quote
I couldn't care less about....


the other good one is

Quote
I ain't seen nothing...

...so you saw something then
Title: Re: Nonsense idioms!
Post by: clickclack on Tue, 07 May 2013, 10:18:25
Lucked Out
-you got lucky (generally not the sexual type of lucky)
Sometimes it trips up younger generations in it's use.

Balls To The Wall
-to go all out, expend all energy on a task.

Title: Re: Nonsense idioms!
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 07 May 2013, 10:22:58
Lucked Out
-you got lucky (generally not the sexual type of lucky)
Sometimes it trips up younger generations in it's use.

Balls To The Wall
-to go all out, expend all energy on a task.
What about if your balls go from the window to the wall, then sweat drops down them? At that point, you might luck out, and get lucky.
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Post by: clickclack on Tue, 07 May 2013, 10:54:26
you killed it
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Post by: TheQsanity on Tue, 07 May 2013, 16:15:12
Reference:
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Post by: rowdy on Tue, 07 May 2013, 17:20:48
A pet peeve of mine, similar to the one cited in the OP: "I could care less".  Its sense is the opposite of its literal meaning.  The "correct" version obviously is "I couldn't care less", but people often say and write the former.

I usually just say something like "I could care less, but that would involve the expenditure of energy that I could better use on something else".
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Post by: sth on Tue, 07 May 2013, 19:30:05
Balls To The Wall
-to go all out, expend all energy on a task.
I actually just recently heard the background of this. Here's an article about it: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2006/02/balls_in_the_air.html
Title: Re: Nonsense idioms!
Post by: sth on Tue, 07 May 2013, 19:30:39
A pet peeve of mine, similar to the one cited in the OP: "I could care less".  Its sense is the opposite of its literal meaning.  The "correct" version obviously is "I couldn't care less", but people often say and write the former.

I usually just say something like "I could care less, but that would involve the expenditure of energy that I could better use on something else".
thereby expending more energy than the addition of two letters and an apostrophe
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Post by: clickclack on Tue, 07 May 2013, 19:57:11
I actually just recently heard the background of this. Here's an article about it: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2006/02/balls_in_the_air.html
You know, I had a feeling that it was going to be a military derived phrase. Honestly though, I always thought it had to do with you pressing the gas pedal so hard or so much that your dangly bits were against the fire wall. Not too far off actually. Haahaa, thanks for the link.

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Post by: TheQsanity on Tue, 07 May 2013, 19:58:05
I know skaters use the term "balls out"

What about "**** hits the fan"
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Post by: rowdy on Tue, 07 May 2013, 20:19:51
Put the pedal to the metal, your balls against the wall, and see if you can still reach the steering wheel.
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Post by: rowdy on Tue, 07 May 2013, 20:20:08
Nose to the grindstone?
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Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 07 May 2013, 20:22:31
I know skaters use the term "balls out"

What about "**** hits the fan"

The fan atomizes whatever hits it, and sprays it in an all-covering mess onto everything within range.
Title: Re: Nonsense idioms!
Post by: eth0s on Tue, 07 May 2013, 21:53:57
One of my personal favorites is:  "I don't give a rat's ass."

which means of course:  "I don't care at all."

etymology?  I have no idea.  But the internets say the following:

The OED gives the first citation of the phrase from the Leon Uris novel, "Battle Cry" in 1953.  If it appeared in a novel, there is a good chance the author picked up an expression that had been around for a while before that.

Some suggest that it came from a possibly related phrase "don't give a dead rat" from the incomparable Mark Twain, "The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn" (1884).

Apart from a single occurrence in 1953, Google ngram sees it picking up from 1970, after sporadic use in the 60’s.   

Somebody even made a cool graph showing the popularity of the phrases "rat's ass" and "give a rat's ass":

(http://i.stack.imgur.com/M0sw0.png)

From this graph however, comes the disturbing news that usage of my favorite idiom is now in decline.  So tomorrow, I urge you all to try to reverse that trend, and please tell somebody that really deserves to hear it, that you sincerely, and honestly, just don't give a rat's ass.


Title: Re: Nonsense idioms!
Post by: clickclack on Wed, 08 May 2013, 00:46:17
Oh noes! I learned "Rat's Nads", I never say "rat's ass", though I hear it often.
I don't know if I can make the switch. Hmm... maybe if I do it for SCIENCE!
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Post by: whiskerBox on Wed, 08 May 2013, 09:13:17
I used to work with this guy who would always say "that just takes the bark right off the log" for some reason it would drive me crazy.

A personal favorite of mine is "You lie like a rug".

These are both very stupid and I am sorry for exposing you.
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Post by: davkol on Wed, 08 May 2013, 09:14:15
Ich verstehe immer nur Bahnhof.
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Post by: TheQsanity on Sat, 11 May 2013, 14:03:07
"That would be the bee's knees"
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Post by: clickclack on Sat, 11 May 2013, 14:20:54
cool beans
-cool, neato

the cat's meow
- it's all the rage, fantastic, envious, the best, cool etc.

the cat's pajamas
-the best, coolest
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Post by: SmallFry on Sat, 11 May 2013, 14:27:02
"By the skin of his teeth"
lucky little son of a gun.
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Post by: nar on Sat, 11 May 2013, 14:38:04
Hair of the Dog, drinking to cure a Hangover

Apparently come from when people thought you could cure rabies from a dog bite if you took the dog's hair and put it on the bite.