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Title: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: dante on Sat, 11 May 2013, 16:17:07: http://www.elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=leopold,compact&pid=fc660c
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: Sniping on Sat, 11 May 2013, 16:20:57: Too bad they want $25 for tax and shipping from me. $215 =( I think I'll stick with the GB.
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: Thechemist on Sat, 11 May 2013, 17:19:48: $201 shipped for me :D must resist......
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: osxoep on Sat, 11 May 2013, 17:26:13: Quote from: Sniping on Sat, 11 May 2013, 16:20:57
Too bad they want $25 for tax and shipping from me. $215 =( I think I'll stick with the GB.

Try $56 shipping and then I'll get hit by import tax too.
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: odyssomay on Sat, 11 May 2013, 17:32:03: $56 shipping + 25% tax + 20% customs. It's great to live in sweden. ;D
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: Sniping on Sat, 11 May 2013, 17:40:28: Seems like the 660C's from EK don't come with the lavender WASD and arrow keys and red Escape?
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: osxoep on Sat, 11 May 2013, 17:41:42: Quote from: Sniping on Sat, 11 May 2013, 17:40:28
Seems like the 660C's from EK don't come with the lavender WASD and arrow keys and red Escape?
Apparently neither do the boost GB KBs
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: longweight on Sat, 11 May 2013, 17:44:58: No blank option :(
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: Jocelyn on Sat, 11 May 2013, 17:46:18: Quote from: longweight on Sat, 11 May 2013, 17:44:58
No blank option :(

Agreed, I'm holding out and hoping for this in the future.
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: dante on Sat, 11 May 2013, 17:50:28: Quote from: Jocelyn on Sat, 11 May 2013, 17:46:18
Quote from: longweight on Sat, 11 May 2013, 17:44:58
No blank option :(

Agreed, I'm holding out and hoping for this in the future.

Looks like Blank keys are only available on the Cherry MX version of this board.
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: jwaz on Sat, 11 May 2013, 17:51:18: No newsletter or update to the main page? He must be in quite a hurry to get these to us.
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: dante on Sat, 11 May 2013, 17:56:41: As of this post 10 units (35 of 45) have been sold.
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: jwaz on Sat, 11 May 2013, 18:11:29: Quote from: dante on Sat, 11 May 2013, 17:56:41
As of this post 10 units (35 of 45) have been sold.

Only 15 RF 104UGs
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: ValerieV on Sat, 11 May 2013, 20:27:47: I bought one. I will do a video review after i get it. I still think i am not going to sell my HHKB. I still love it and with the exception of the nondedicated arrow keys, it is a wonderful keyboard.
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 11 May 2013, 20:28:17: After hearing Boost canceled the GB, I grabbed one from here. There were 42 people in the GB, so that alone will deplete EK's inventory when the rest of them hear about it.

I'll most likely will be doing a review on mine since these are relatively new and different enough from HHKB and RF.

Quote from: odyssomay on Sat, 11 May 2013, 17:32:03
$56 shipping + 25% tax + 20% customs. It's great to live in sweden. ;D

Get someone in the US to buy one to proxy. Mark it as gift with a very low declared value.
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: Shuki on Sat, 11 May 2013, 20:44:23: Quote from: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 11 May 2013, 20:28:17
Get someone in the US to buy one to proxy. Mark it as gift with a very low declared value.

Where to find such a trustworthy individual?
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: ValerieV on Sat, 11 May 2013, 20:55:13: I would be happy to do it for you if i could trust you. I have no problem with it.
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: rainb1ood on Sat, 11 May 2013, 20:59:33: (http://i.imgur.com/BtuLnnV.jpg)

Just noticed the imprinted equation, by quick googling C=Q/V relates to capacitance. What does the second half part mean?
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: Shuki on Sat, 11 May 2013, 21:13:37: Quote from: ValerieV on Sat, 11 May 2013, 20:55:13
I would be happy to do it for you if i could trust you. I have no problem with it.

Sent you a PM :)
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: jabar on Sat, 11 May 2013, 23:24:59: Quote from: rainb1ood on Sat, 11 May 2013, 20:59:33
Just noticed the imprinted equation, by quick googling C=Q/V relates to capacitance. What does the second half part mean?
e*A/t refers specifically to a capacitor's capability to store charge as a function of the material's dielectric constant and the area of the parallel plates storing the charge.
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: qtan5370 on Sat, 11 May 2013, 23:41:45: Is there a carrier in EU for Leopold? If not, I might consider selling it to EU.
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: SmallFry on Sat, 11 May 2013, 23:48:45: Shame that Boost cancelled his GB. Oh well.
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: KangarooZombies on Sun, 12 May 2013, 01:36:13: Just bought one from EK. Was in for the boost one, but he cancelled, EK will work just fine. They are sold out of the Lavender WASD caps now though, both types. I tried adding the lettered ones to my purchase, said they were sold out. Too bad :/

If anyone happens to have an extra WASD lavender set for topre they dont need anymore...
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: therecorder on Sun, 12 May 2013, 04:38:23: Quote from: qtan5370 on Sat, 11 May 2013, 23:41:45
Is there a carrier in EU for Leopold? If not, I might consider selling it to EU.

Not that I'm aware of. Oddly, Leopold-China is only selling the FC660M (the one I purchased from you).
www.leopold-china.com
http://leopold-china.taobao.com/?spm=2013.1.w5001-284146305.2.41owUO

The Topre switch Leopold- FC660C - (which I just purchased from Elite, and never thought to ask you about) is not listed.

I'm sure that they would sell.
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: ValerieV on Sun, 12 May 2013, 06:25:13: What are the differences in the models? Also, i do wonder if EK will sell the new Leopold brown and blue switch space saving keyboards.
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: Jocelyn on Sun, 12 May 2013, 06:26:52: Quote from: ValerieV on Sun, 12 May 2013, 06:25:13
What are the differences in the models? Also, i do wonder if EK will sell the new Leopold brown and blue switch space saving keyboards.

M is MX, while C is Topre
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: ValerieV on Sun, 12 May 2013, 06:56:53: Thank you. Is there a way i can order one of the MX keyboards? I can't translate their website to order one myself.
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: therecorder on Sun, 12 May 2013, 07:00:06: Quote from: ValerieV on Sun, 12 May 2013, 06:56:53
Thank you. Is there a way i can order one of the MX keyboards? I can't translate their website to order one myself.

Contact Qtang... He ordered one for me.
qtang1s@gmail.com
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: Kmynis on Sun, 12 May 2013, 07:09:14: Quote from: qtan5370 on Sat, 11 May 2013, 23:41:45
Is there a carrier in EU for Leopold? If not, I might consider selling it to EU.

No, there is none. Consider it, please. I'd be in trance if someone based in EU started selling it. It's scary to get into the tax raffle, it sucks to pay 50dolla for the shipping across the globe.
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: Shuki on Sun, 12 May 2013, 07:36:29: Quote from: qtan5370 on Sat, 11 May 2013, 23:41:45
Is there a carrier in EU for Leopold? If not, I might consider selling it to EU.

If the shipping was the same price as what I paid for the poker mini from you, I would definitely buy one.
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: ValerieV on Sun, 12 May 2013, 07:52:03: Quote from: therecorder on Sun, 12 May 2013, 07:00:06
Quote from: ValerieV on Sun, 12 May 2013, 06:56:53
Thank you. Is there a way i can order one of the MX keyboards? I can't translate their website to order one myself.

Contact Qtang... He ordered one for me.
qtang1s@gmail.com

Thanks. Just did.
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: osxoep on Sun, 12 May 2013, 13:20:13: Quote from: rainb1ood on Sat, 11 May 2013, 20:59:33
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/BtuLnnV.jpg)

Just noticed the imprinted equation, by quick googling C=Q/V relates to capacitance. What does the second half part mean?

It's for parallel plate capacitors
Capacitance = (epsilon)*(A/t)
where epsilon is the permittivity of free space (iirc), A is the area of the plates and t is the distance between the two plates.
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: qtan5370 on Mon, 13 May 2013, 02:37:46: Shipping? Shipping is only relate to weight and size....For U.K. we can even handle the VAT in the shipping cost.

660C is coming.
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: Shuki on Mon, 13 May 2013, 07:00:59: You will be selling them via your ebay store?
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: osxoep on Mon, 13 May 2013, 07:14:14: Quote from: qtan5370 on Mon, 13 May 2013, 02:37:46
Shipping? Shipping is only relate to weight and size....For U.K. we can even handle the VAT in the shipping cost.

660C is coming.
How do you handle VAT? Do you have a VAT number?
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: Moosecraft on Mon, 13 May 2013, 11:03:02: Quote from: qtan5370 on Mon, 13 May 2013, 02:37:46

660C is coming.
Why does this place keep torturing me with awesome new stuff ;D
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: KangarooZombies on Mon, 13 May 2013, 11:04:54: Any idea when we can expect to see another restock of the lavender wasd sets? Both are showing out of stock for me :<
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: daerid on Mon, 13 May 2013, 11:13:29: Looks as though the printed ones are in stock (http://www.elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,toprekeys&pid=hh_wasd)
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: KangarooZombies on Mon, 13 May 2013, 11:25:15: Quote from: daerid on Mon, 13 May 2013, 11:13:29
Looks as though the printed ones are in stock (http://www.elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,toprekeys&pid=hh_wasd)

They are not, I tried to order a set yesterday, but once you get to checkout, it says out of stock :<
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Mon, 13 May 2013, 22:56:54: I got shipping confirmation, and it'll be delivered tomorrow. Funny thing, EK is only 30min away from me, but I can't just pick it up. It had to be shipped.
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: KangarooZombies on Mon, 13 May 2013, 22:58:05: Mine shows up wednesday. Can not wait. Will post thoughts here when i get it.
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: ValerieV on Tue, 14 May 2013, 16:13:24: I live in Michigan and i won't be getting mine until Friday. :( Please post your reviews. I think i made the right choice buying it but i hear some people say that they are going to be selling their HHKB. I think i will keep that one as well.
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: VesperSAINT on Tue, 14 May 2013, 16:20:12: Blows my mind that these are still in stock after all the craze and drama. Maybe some people backed out and decided not to buy from EK after it all? I would just buy from them but I need that white/beige.
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: Shuki on Tue, 14 May 2013, 17:53:36: Well its not that cheap if you aren't in the US tbh :)
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: VesperSAINT on Tue, 14 May 2013, 17:56:22: Yeah, I can definitely agree with that but there was like more than 30 people in Boost's GB which I'm sure was just as expensive if not more.
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: ctbear on Tue, 14 May 2013, 21:03:01: Dang this is so tempting...if only I didn't just buy an Oni and have a TKL blue leopold collecting dust...
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: suprsmo on Tue, 14 May 2013, 21:05:46: I want one.. But might have to wait and see if some local carriers get them. :l

Should probably sell my unused Realforce also.. mmm
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: VesperSAINT on Tue, 14 May 2013, 21:11:12: Quote from: suprsmo on Tue, 14 May 2013, 21:05:46
I want one.. But might have to wait and see if some local carriers get them. :l

Should probably sell my unused Realforce also.. mmm

If you don't use your Realforce, why would you buy this? Is it because your Realforce is variable? Just curious :)
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: EZjiji on Tue, 14 May 2013, 21:14:00: Well, just pulled the trigger since I was going to group buy anyway.

My sorry wallet!
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: suprsmo on Tue, 14 May 2013, 21:28:24: Quote from: VesperSAINT on Tue, 14 May 2013, 21:11:12
Quote from: suprsmo on Tue, 14 May 2013, 21:05:46
I want one.. But might have to wait and see if some local carriers get them. :l

Should probably sell my unused Realforce also.. mmm

If you don't use your Realforce, why would you buy this? Is it because your Realforce is variable? Just curious :)

Yup. That, and I love compacts. And always admired the HHKB, but the not the price tag or the PCB mounts.

Variable is nice for work. typing all day.. it cant be beat. So it was getting used @ work there for a while.
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: VesperSAINT on Tue, 14 May 2013, 21:33:06: Quote from: suprsmo on Tue, 14 May 2013, 21:28:24
Yup. That, and I love compacts. And always admired the HHKB, but the not the price tag or the PCB mounts.

Variable is nice for work. typing all day.. it cant be beat. So it was getting used @ work there for a while.

Thanks for letting me know! Always curious to learn how people use things. I agree with you though, the compact form factor on these 660M's are awesome :)
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: morpheus on Tue, 14 May 2013, 21:43:29: Just got this *****.

Can't wait to try out Topre!
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: morpheus on Wed, 15 May 2013, 00:22:03: Quote from: therecorder on Sun, 12 May 2013, 04:38:23
Quote from: qtan5370 on Sat, 11 May 2013, 23:41:45
Is there a carrier in EU for Leopold? If not, I might consider selling it to EU.

Not that I'm aware of. Oddly, Leopold-China is only selling the FC660M (the one I purchased from you).
www.leopold-china.com
http://leopold-china.taobao.com/?spm=2013.1.w5001-284146305.2.41owUO

The Topre switch Leopold- FC660C - (which I just purchased from Elite, and never thought to ask you about) is not listed.

I'm sure that they would sell.
Quote from: therecorder on Sun, 12 May 2013, 04:38:23
Quote from: qtan5370 on Sat, 11 May 2013, 23:41:45
Is there a carrier in EU for Leopold? If not, I might consider selling it to EU.

Not that I'm aware of. Oddly, Leopold-China is only selling the FC660M (the one I purchased from you).
www.leopold-china.com
http://leopold-china.taobao.com/?spm=2013.1.w5001-284146305.2.41owUO

The Topre switch Leopold- FC660C - (which I just purchased from Elite, and never thought to ask you about) is not listed.

I'm sure that they would sell.

Watch out, those sites were found with Trojan viruses.
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: blakespot on Wed, 15 May 2013, 17:32:49: It just arrived from EliteKeyboards.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7289/8742785464_ca97a2e9ef.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/blakespot/8742785464/)
Leopold FC660C keyboard vs. Realforce 87u (http://www.flickr.com/photos/blakespot/8742785464/) by blakespot (http://www.flickr.com/people/blakespot/), on Flickr

It feels like I imagine a HHKP feels. The typing sound is similar based on YouTube vids. This uniform 45g feels "tighter" and more "solid" than my 35g, 45g variable Realforce 87u. I think I prefer the feel of the Leopold.

bp
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: daerid on Wed, 15 May 2013, 17:36:24: What weight is your 87U? Also, give it a week or so to break in, the keys loosen up slightly.
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: blakespot on Wed, 15 May 2013, 18:00:54: Quote from: daerid on Wed, 15 May 2013, 17:36:24
What weight is your 87U? Also, give it a week or so to break in, the keys loosen up slightly.

35g, 45g (yea and esc is 55g...) on the RF.

I like the tightness.

bp
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: ValerieV on Wed, 15 May 2013, 18:51:46: I am jealous. I have to wait until Friday. Do you think the yellow keycaps that they sell at Elitekeyboards would work for this? I wonder if there are sizes that differ on certain keys. Congratulations on the new keyboard. :D
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: kelske on Wed, 15 May 2013, 18:54:27: Quote from: ValerieV on Wed, 15 May 2013, 18:51:46
I am jealous. I have to wait until Friday. Do you think the yellow keycaps that they sell at Elitekeyboards would work for this? I wonder if there are sizes that differ on certain keys. Congratulations on the new keyboard. :D

Unfortunately the bottom modifier keys won't fit :( They're 1.5x 1x 1.5x on the RF boards, these are all 1.25. Then the Right Shift is a bit smaller I think? All the 1x1 keys and the spacebar will fit though!
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: Shuki on Wed, 15 May 2013, 18:54:43: Show Image
Quote from: blakespot on Wed, 15 May 2013, 17:32:49
It just arrived from EliteKeyboards.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7289/8742785464_ca97a2e9ef.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/blakespot/8742785464/)
Leopold FC660C keyboard vs. Realforce 87u (http://www.flickr.com/photos/blakespot/8742785464/) by blakespot (http://www.flickr.com/people/blakespot/), on Flickr

It feels like I imagine a HHKP feels. The typing sound is similar based on YouTube vids. This uniform 45g feels "tighter" and more "solid" than my 35g, 45g variable Realforce 87u. I think I prefer the feel of the Leopold.

bp

It barely seems smaller than the realforce? Could be the picture but actually how much smaller is it (width). I would expect two key widths on the realforce, but I could be overlooking something.
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: Shuki on Wed, 15 May 2013, 18:58:43: Quote from: ValerieV on Wed, 15 May 2013, 18:51:46
I am jealous. I have to wait until Friday. Do you think the yellow keycaps that they sell at Elitekeyboards would work for this? I wonder if there are sizes that differ on certain keys. Congratulations on the new keyboard. :D

The modifiers on the leopold are 1.25 rather than 1.5 which is the standard for the realforce modifiers afaik.
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: jabar on Wed, 15 May 2013, 19:26:38: 55g 87U or a 660C.

That is thy question.

Already owned & sold my former HHKB.

e: or a HiPro...
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: VesperSAINT on Wed, 15 May 2013, 19:32:14: I wish they'd make a 55g 660C. Of course, I haven't felt any Topre's yet but I assume I'll like a slightly more stiff switch.
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: Shuki on Wed, 15 May 2013, 19:42:53: I myself have a realforce all 55g and I think I would prefer a slightly lighter switch.
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: blakespot on Wed, 15 May 2013, 20:10:23: Red ESC from Realforce 87u (have an orange ESC on that board now).

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7293/8742104187_0b3b984109.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/blakespot/8742104187/)
Leopold FC660C keyboard (http://www.flickr.com/photos/blakespot/8742104187/) by blakespot (http://www.flickr.com/people/blakespot/), on Flickr

bp
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: Latin00032 on Wed, 15 May 2013, 21:05:28: Quote from: ValerieV on Sat, 11 May 2013, 20:27:47
I bought one. I will do a video review after i get it. I still think i am not going to sell my HHKB. I still love it and with the exception of the nondedicated arrow keys, it is a wonderful keyboard.

I'm trying to decide between both, too. What makes the hhkb so great, in your opinion?
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: jabar on Wed, 15 May 2013, 21:23:14: Quote from: Latin00032 on Wed, 15 May 2013, 21:05:28
I'm trying to decide between both, too. What makes the hhkb so great, in your opinion?
What made the HHKB great for me was the Fn layer layout and the small profile with accompanying transport tote. What I didn't like was the price.
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: Shuki on Wed, 15 May 2013, 23:25:27: The price in its own way is a selling point. What better way to convince everyone that your product is superior to everyone else's than buy pricing it at a much higher premium than rival products.
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: baller1308 on Thu, 16 May 2013, 00:11:20: I can't see how you could use the Fn key comfortably. I would rather it be in the right alt key's position or to the left of it but with a smaller spacebar. Custom keycaps would be more of a problem though.
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: ValerieV on Thu, 16 May 2013, 06:05:48: Quote from: jabar on Wed, 15 May 2013, 21:23:14
Quote from: Latin00032 on Wed, 15 May 2013, 21:05:28
I'm trying to decide between both, too. What makes the hhkb so great, in your opinion?
What made the HHKB great for me was the Fn layer layout and the small profile with accompanying transport tote. What I didn't like was the price.

What i love about the HHKB is the compact size and the keys didn't feel mushy like the Realforce did to me. I think i am the only one who really doesn't care for the Realforce as much as the HHKB. I don't like that the HHKB doesn't have dedicated arrow keys though and that is part of the reason i bought the Leopold.
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: therecorder on Thu, 16 May 2013, 07:38:04: Just received my FC660C from Elite, and my FC660M from Qtang. Will give my opinions at a later time, but,at the moment, I have a question. On both keyboards, the Insert/Overwrite key works, but there is no LED lighting up. Has anyone else experienced this?
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: daerid on Thu, 16 May 2013, 07:55:16: That's by design (although I'll admit it's a weird one). The LED on the insert key is for indicating the Escape key mode (toggled by hitting fn+Q).

Admittedly, most keyboards don't use an LED for insert/overwrite mode though.
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: therecorder on Thu, 16 May 2013, 07:58:44: Quote from: daerid on Thu, 16 May 2013, 07:55:16
That's by design (although I'll admit it's a weird one). The LED on the insert key is for indicating the Escape key mode (toggled by hitting fn+Q).

Admittedly, most keyboards don't use an LED for insert/overwrite mode though.

Thanks... That eases my mind a bit, although, like you, also puzzles it.
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: morpheus on Thu, 16 May 2013, 08:02:47: Loving the reviews so far. I'm glad I got this instead of the Realforce.
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: therecorder on Thu, 16 May 2013, 08:09:15: You can really feel the weight difference between the two boards, although both feel like little armored cars. The FC660M = 700 grams, and the FC660C = 550 grams. For most, I think this is good, since the majority seem to be ordering the FC660C, and it will be a lighter burden to tote around (e.g. to and from work).

Also, the FC660M came in a plain, flat, tan box (unlike the photos), but included everything, including the extra 3 blank colored keys.
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: AJCarrington on Fri, 17 May 2013, 14:40:24: Mine arrived today...absolutely love the switches/feel. However, come to realize that I simply prefer a full-size board...wallet about to feel some more pain.
Title: Re: Leopold 660C up at EK
Post by: ValerieV on Fri, 17 May 2013, 16:58:55: I just got mine today and i love it. The keys feel great. They are slightly less noisy than the HHKB but otherwise perfect. I didn't have any problems with the base board like some have complained about. Mine feels and looks great! I think i will use this more than my HHKB but i am not going to sell the HHKB. I will use that as a backup. Thanks to the guys at EliteKeyboards for once again giving great customer service. ;D