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Title: Apple rant
Post by: iMav on Thu, 03 July 2008, 11:44:47

Most of web-enabled reporting tools I sell require a Java 6 runtime environment on the client side (browser plugin).  Java 6.0 is available from Sun for Linux and the nasty (http://www.microsoft.com/windows).  However, java dev and releases for OS X are controlled by Apple.  

Apple did release Java 6, but only a 64-bit version.  And there are NO 64-bit browsers currently available for OS X.  Thus, we are stuck at Java 5 for web-enabled applications.

Which means, I have to launch a linux VM whenever I need to access any of these web tools (which is a PITA).  Maybe a switch back to linux on a thinkpad is in order...  

Title: Apple rant
Post by: ashort on Thu, 03 July 2008, 12:40:07

What are you running OSX on?  I thought you were Apple free at the moment?

Title: Apple rant
Post by: iMav on Thu, 03 July 2008, 12:53:14

Quote from: ashort;6274

What are you running OSX on?  I thought you were Apple free at the moment?

Current gen blackbook
 - 2.4Ghz C2D CPU
 - 4GB ram
 - 320GB hdd

BTW, there are SEVERAL mentions of my fairly new Macbook in IM conversations between us (just looked at some recent transcripts).  ;)

Title: Apple rant
Post by: xsphat on Thu, 03 July 2008, 13:12:59

Quote from: iMav;6276

BTW, there are SEVERAL mentions of my fairly new Macbook in IM conversations between us (just looked at some recent transcripts).  ;)

You are calling everyone out today!

Title: Apple rant
Post by: iMav on Thu, 03 July 2008, 13:22:50

Quote from: xsphat;6282

You are calling everyone out today!

Just poking some fun at ashort.  He's used to it.

What I should've done is simply direct him to the public picture I posted at least 4 weeks ago in the setup thread.

HERE!! (http://geekhack.org/showpost.php?p=5042&postcount=42)

:)

Title: Apple rant
Post by: ashort on Thu, 03 July 2008, 14:14:21

Quote from: iMav;6276

BTW, there are SEVERAL mentions of my fairly new Macbook in IM conversations between us (just looked at some recent transcripts).  ;)

I'm far too busy to keep up with your laptop of the week.

:-)

Title: Apple rant
Post by: jemkeys on Thu, 03 July 2008, 14:17:35

WinXP SP2 rules all.  :)

Title: Apple rant
Post by: xsphat on Thu, 03 July 2008, 14:18:55

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WinXP SP2 rules all.  :)

:eek:

Title: Apple rant
Post by: bhtooefr on Thu, 03 July 2008, 14:32:18

Well, he probably has a point - I suspect XP SP2 is the most used OS.

Title: Apple rant
Post by: xsphat on Thu, 03 July 2008, 14:37:26

Doesn't make it the best one for me though.

Title: Apple rant
Post by: jemkeys on Thu, 03 July 2008, 14:42:59

I use a streamlined version of XP SP2.  I used nlite to remove all the stuff that comes with it that I'll never use.  As a result, I got a really fast OS that runs everything.  Including my favorite... games!  :)

Title: Apple rant
Post by: bhtooefr on Thu, 03 July 2008, 15:09:29

Quote from: xsphat;6290

Doesn't make it the best one for me though.

No OS is the best one for me.

My server runs Ubuntu 7.10 (IIRC,) my Mac runs OS X 10.5.2 (haven't applied all the updates, m'kay?,) and my ThinkPad runs XP Tablet SP2 (again, haven't applied all the updates...)

Title: Apple rant
Post by: xsphat on Thu, 03 July 2008, 15:25:06

OS 9.2 all the way!

Title: Apple rant
Post by: bhtooefr on Thu, 03 July 2008, 16:39:32

GS/OS System 6.0.1 all the way.

Title: Apple rant
Post by: Waves77 on Thu, 03 July 2008, 18:48:52

Linux on Thinkpad here and I can't live without it! Plus through Lenovo you avoid paying the M$ tax (their linux machines actually are cheaper, unlike other people). Everything works like a charm, very well supported (under Ubuntu right now).

Desktop also runs linux of course :)

Title: Apple rant
Post by: iMav on Thu, 03 July 2008, 20:23:26

Quote from: Waves77;6301

Linux on Thinkpad

+1  (as long as that thinkpad is sans touchpad)  ;)

Title: Apple rant
Post by: Waves77 on Fri, 04 July 2008, 00:48:11

Quote from: iMav;6302

+1  (as long as that thinkpad is sans touchpad)  ;)

I really prefer the touchpad to the tracking point (but then again I also prefer a numpad ;)) Most of the time I have a small logitech nano that I use, and an external board with the laptop on a stand.

Title: Apple rant
Post by: xsphat on Fri, 04 July 2008, 02:31:42

Quote from: Waves77;6305

I really prefer the touchpad to the tracking point

You're treading on sacred ground here buddy, watch out. :)

Title: Apple rant
Post by: bhtooefr on Fri, 04 July 2008, 07:31:33

To be fair, Apple's touchpads are actually quite decent.

(But, I'd STILL rather have a TrackPoint. Which is part of the reason I usually use my EnduraPro with my iBook.)

Title: Apple rant
Post by: Waves77 on Fri, 04 July 2008, 11:10:03

Quote from: xsphat;6307

You're treading on sacred ground here buddy, watch out. :)

Only one way (http://youtube.com/watch?v=LRrqQdMfYKw) to settle this :mad:

Title: Apple rant
Post by: bigpook on Fri, 04 July 2008, 11:19:22

I would like to see a rematch...: )

Title: Apple rant
Post by: iMav on Fri, 04 July 2008, 11:27:40

Quote from: bigpook;6320

I would like to see a rematch...: )

I would like to see blunt strikes to the watermelon.  Not bashing the corner of the Model M into the table (through the melon).

Title: Apple rant
Post by: bhtooefr on Fri, 04 July 2008, 12:03:24

Of course, the most flimsy way to get a pointing stick not built into a laptop would probably be the UltraNav IV keyboard (which does also have a touchpad.) Either that, or the IBM Model M4 or Unicomp Mighty Mouse.

Versus a crappy Cirque Easy Cat (probably the most flimsy way to get a standalone touchpad?) I think the keyboard would quickly destroy the touchpad. ;)

Title: Apple rant
Post by: bigpook on Fri, 04 July 2008, 12:42:56

Quote from: bhtooefr;6324

Of course, the most flimsy way to get a pointing stick not built into a laptop would probably be the UltraNav IV keyboard (which does also have a touchpad.) Either that, or the IBM Model M4 or Unicomp Mighty Mouse.

Versus a crappy Cirque Easy Cat (probably the most flimsy way to get a standalone touchpad?) I think the keyboard would quickly destroy the touchpad. ;)

? watermelons? model m? zenith bull? rematch?

Title: Apple rant
Post by: bhtooefr on Fri, 04 July 2008, 14:07:40

I thought we were having a match against a TrackPoint and a touchpad. ;)

Title: Apple rant
Post by: bigpook on Fri, 04 July 2008, 14:25:46

Lol, sorry, wrong thread

Title: Apple rant
Post by: iMav on Fri, 04 July 2008, 14:37:11

Quote from: bigpook;6335

Lol, sorry, wrong thread

Wrong thread?  This seems to be the thread for pretty much anything.  ;)

Back to the ORIGINAL topic...

Am I the only Mac user here who needs Java 6.0 for the browser?

Title: Apple rant
Post by: bhtooefr on Fri, 04 July 2008, 15:11:28

I haven't run into anything Java that I've needed to use that didn't work, so...