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Title: Has anyone tried converting replacement notebook keyboards into PC?
Post by: dante on Sun, 26 May 2013, 09:16:27
ebay has a ton of thinkpad scissor switch replacement keyboards for laptops and was curious if anyone thought about converting these for PC use?
Title: Re: Has anyone tried converting replacement notebook keyboards into PC?
Post by: Findecanor on Sun, 26 May 2013, 09:22:40
It is certainly possible, but you need to reverse-engineer the matrix and use your own keyboard controller. On laptops, the controller is usually on the motherboard -- not included in the keyboard.

By the way, there are lots of cheap low-profile keyboards at very low price out there with USB. There have even been standalone Thinkpad keyboards available for desktop PCs.
Title: Re: Has anyone tried converting replacement notebook keyboards into PC?
Post by: dante on Sun, 26 May 2013, 09:48:37
Yes.  I'm actually ordering one of those this weekend.  But I've heard that it doesn't 'feel' like a real thinkpad.  I've read recommendations of putting dynamat on the inside and adding a full rubber mat on the bottom.

So yeah ... I guess I could dig up some specs to see how those keyboards are wired out and then steal a controller out of a dead unit or a $2 rubberdome.
Title: Re: Has anyone tried converting replacement notebook keyboards into PC?
Post by: Halvar on Mon, 27 May 2013, 11:02:57
You can only use an existing controller from a cheap keyboard if your thinkpad keyboard has exactly the same matrix logically.

Membrane keyboards can't be rewired like mech keyboards to build some other matrix that a controller requires. If you want to reuse the membrane from the thinkpad keyboard, then in most cases you'll need a programmable controller like a teensy.
Title: Re: Has anyone tried converting replacement notebook keyboards into PC?
Post by: The_Ed on Wed, 29 May 2013, 03:57:51
The only thing I like laptop keyboards for is donor plastic. It fixes broken Model M barrel frames quite well. I wonder what else I can fix with them...

(http://i.imgur.com/kpzDpyb.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/JAxQxOt.jpg)
Title: Re: Has anyone tried converting replacement notebook keyboards into PC?
Post by: fateswarm on Wed, 29 May 2013, 05:49:40
As a long-term user of several laptops - I had to due to life style - I assure you, you don't want the "technology" of laptop keyboards to infiltrate desktops, especially those new flat ones.

In fact I have developed the idea of the 'mobile desktop'; it's basically a notebook without a mousepad and a keyboard with a perhaps shorter but thicker front so one can also put an external keyboard closer to it. [without the crippled technology of tablets]

Yeah.. I don't believe there's a point in not connecting a mouse and a keyboard to a laptop. And actually using a laptop on the road is quite a niche for the majority of people. Most of the time it's not used as a laptop but as a mobile desktop. [and the weight of a keyboard and mouse is negligible and they fit in a carrying case easily]
Title: Re: Has anyone tried converting replacement notebook keyboards into PC?
Post by: Leslieann on Wed, 29 May 2013, 16:55:38
Logitech sells scissor switch keyboards, look into the Illuminated.

I kind of agree with Fateswarm.
Chicklet style is terrible, as is the overall flatness, but the bigger issue is durability. Those switches, while durable long term time-wise, are extremely fragile if anything is dropped on them or simply hitting them hard. I work on lots of laptops and I see busted keys constantly.