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geekhack Community => Keyboards => Topic started by: Xtract on Wed, 29 May 2013, 00:23:44
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I want a new keyboard since i am with the same ****ty rubber dome keyboard for 5 years already :/ so i don't really care about the money unless its like super high the type of keyboard i need is for FPS gaming ( Call of Duty: Black Ops II, Counter Strike: Source/global offensive, Team Fortress 2 and a few more games..), also i like to blind type but i am not a professional typer i type less the 100 WPM maybe i will start typing seriously soon but i prefer a gaming keyboard please help me find one, by the way i kinda care about the look of the keyboard not seriously matters but just that it wont be really ugly looking.
Thanks for helping, have a nice day! :)
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By the way i check for hours yesterday all about Cherry MXs and they look insane i thought about taking red once i didn't try any of the MXs so i really don't know if thats what i should take i know its a matter of taste but i got no where to try them so i will have to take a bet and by the way i like to play for multiple hours on the computer some times so i thought the black is off the board but i don't know.. Help :D
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It really does come down to preference. I wouldn't recommend Blacks as they are a bit stiff for gaming. Red, Browns (slight tactile) or Clears (medium tactile) are my top choices. Blues work OK as well as long as the high pitched clicking doesn't bother you (I never had issues with double tapping).
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Blacks are good for gaming in that they spring back to position quicker.
But if you need to hold keys down for a while, you might experience finger fatigue after a while.
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Yeah i do need to hold keys for a few minutes some times like WASD etc..
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It really does come down to preference. I wouldn't recommend Blacks as they are a bit stiff for gaming. Red, Browns (slight tactile) or Clears (medium tactile) are my top choices. Blues work OK as well as long as the high pitched clicking doesn't bother you (I never had issues with double tapping).
Yeah it does bother me the clicky sound since i don't live alone and i might start doing live commentaries..
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Yeah i do need to hold keys for a few minutes some times like WASD etc..
MX red.
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Yeah i do need to hold keys for a few minutes some times like WASD etc..
MX red.
Tnx, waiting for more opinions..
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Buy a kmac.. you'll be set...
If you can wait.. The ergodox round 3 seems to be coming... so eyes out..
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Buy a kmac.. you'll be set...
If you can wait.. The ergodox round 3 seems to be coming... so eyes out..
Links?
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Buy a kmac.. you'll be set...
If you can wait.. The ergodox round 3 seems to be coming... so eyes out..
troll much?
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Anyone else got something else to offer to me you can offer not red MX keyboard
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It would also help if you could let us know what country you are in - some countries have less or different options available.
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Buy a kmac.. you'll be set...
If you can wait.. The ergodox round 3 seems to be coming... so eyes out..
troll much?
it's inevitable... sooner or later you either land the kmac or an ergodox.
Might as well fly on the get-go... it's just m0re cheaper this way...
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It would also help if you could let us know what country you are in - some countries have less or different options available.
Israel but i am going on a trip on the USA but east and west coasts
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Another vote for reds, seem to fit your needs perfectly. Slap some o-rings on that puppy and she'll be bad for you, all night long.
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Thanks, anyone else?
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It would also help if you could let us know what country you are in - some countries have less or different options available.
Israel but i am going on a trip on the USA but east and west coasts
Fair enough. One thing to consider is return policy - if you end up with a defective keyboard (rare, but it does happen) you might have trouble returning it once you get home.
If you can test it while still in USA, that would be a good idea.
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It would also help if you could let us know what country you are in - some countries have less or different options available.
Israel but i am going on a trip on the USA but east and west coasts
Fair enough. One thing to consider is return policy - if you end up with a defective keyboard (rare, but it does happen) you might have trouble returning it once you get home.
If you can test it while still in USA, that would be a good idea.
Thank you for your careness, i will try my best to try it before i buy it but first i want to know what i should buy :D so i guess i will go with the red once but if anyone thinks not i will rather he will tell me that but what keyboard should i get? i saw some Coller Master and Corsair good keyboards tell me what is the best keyboard i can get please :)
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Sorry for the multiple massages but i wante to say that i tried today the MX Blue and its perry nice and cool sound but i like to click the button after i already pushed in once i mean to push it again even when its half way down so thats defenetly not an option so which MX Red keyboard should i get??
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Mx Red would be a good choice for you. It's the lightest switch too, some say stupid light but I don't have the honor to try it yet mi'lord. Well you have to buy another board again (it's inevitable). :))
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CM QFR (TKL) or Ducky (Zero) TK.
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Tnx i saw that there are alot of good MX red keyboards there anymore offers?
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I've got another thing to ask, why you all against the num pad? And i want macro keys on my keyboard atleast 3... So any more keyboard names?
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I've got another thing to ask, why you all against the num pad? And i want macro keys on my keyboard atleast 3... So any more keyboard names?
Without a numpad the mouse and keyboard are closer together. It's a matter of comfort and scale.
MX Red or Browns will be your best bet unless you want to drop some big bux for a Topre (which are both comfortable and much quieter than MX switches).
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I've got another thing to ask, why you all against the num pad? And i want macro keys on my keyboard atleast 3... So any more keyboard names?
Without a numpad the mouse and keyboard are closer together. It's a matter of comfort and scale.
MX Red or Browns will be your best bet unless you want to drop some big bux for a Topre (which are both comfortable and much quieter than MX switches).
It's more of What do we have AGAINST keyboards in general..
Ergonomic is very important today, as we've become inseparable from our PCs
The standard 104 key layout, even the 87key tkl are RELICS in terms of usability.
Overnight our usage habits has greatly exceeded the staggered layouts' limited comfort.
We now have the Ergodox which is leaps and bounds ahead of the all current iterations of text input devices in comfort.
So what's the point in continuing the inefficient layout.. Well, if you're already old, and have only a few years left, it doesn't make sense to invest time into adjusting to a more comfortable layout..
I'm only slightly saddened by the fact that the ergodox doesn't fit my hand perfectly, my thumb naturally falls between the two thumb buttons.. I can cope with it, but If only that part were "adjustable" :eek:
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Thx i get it so i want recommendations for MX Red keyboards TKL that has macros
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I saw this keyboard https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=178 i heard its recommended but i dont see why it costs that much no macros no anything just switches :/
I think i will take k70 or something.. Tell me what you think
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Which keyboard is good +got MX Red + Lights + macros + TKL?
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Which keyboard is good +got MX Red + Lights + macros + TKL?
cmstorm trigger meets these requirements
edit: check on backlit. not sure
edit2 it is backlit and full sized not tkl. has macro buttons and fully programable
http://www.cmstorm.com/en/products/keyboards/Trigger/
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https://www.massdrop.com/ext/ergodox/assembly
Keep this in mind...
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I am not sure if this has been posted, although I am hoping someone else has posted this and I am just repeating it. Your choice of switches are PERSONAL PREFERENCE. I have used reds, blacks, blues, and browns, and i HATE reds and blacks, the linear switch feels terrible to me. My friend owns a keyboard with blacks, and he loves it. Your switch will not effect how well you play a game, I don't care what people say about linear switches being better for fps's, they have just bought the hype. I have played multiple games at a fairly high level (fps's, rts's, and mmos) and i prefer my browns over reds and blacks any day. Please don't just get a board with reds or blacks because they are "better for gaming", because they really aren't. Go try some switches out, or do what I did and buy multiple boards and sell them. Most boards have great resale value, and you can normally sell a used board for what you bought it for (just sold my leopold for 5$ more than what I bought it for haha).
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I find reds to be the absolute perfect switch for FPS games specifically because of how quickly they respond when strafing and moving, and how little your fingers get fatigued from pressing the space bar ten thousand times. Others like MOBA or RTS games are a little less forgiving on miss-pressed keys. This is one of the reasons why I keep 2 boards on my desktop at all times.
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Coolermaster QuickFire Rapid is extremely high quality, almost on par with filco, and only $75, but no back-lights, and maybe no macros, not sure.
The Ducky Shine II is another very high quality board for $128, with either pink(they call it purple, but its really pink), white, green, red, or blue LEDs. Again, not sure about macros.
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Which keyboard is good +got MX Red + Lights + macros + TKL?
I don't think there is a single keyboard in existence with TKL layout and Macro keys as they both defeat the objective of each other.
If you're not bothered about TKL, the Corsair K95 seems to be ideal for you http://www.corsair.com/k95/
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The num pad doesn't bothers me i just thought it would be nice to have move place on my table but its okay with num pad forgot i asked for TKL..
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Honestly I'd go with the Ducky Shine II TKL, because you'll find yourself using macros extremely little it most situations. I can't actually think of one situation where macros were exceedingly beneficial.
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Honestly I'd go with the Ducky Shine II TKL, because you'll find yourself using macros extremely little it most situations. I can't actually think of one situation where macros were exceedingly beneficial.
Why it costs so much if it got no features? I mean i costs alot and its only the Cherry MX..
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It has backlighting. And really it is not that much more expensive than something similar without backlighting.
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It has backlighting. And really it is not that much more expensive than something similar without backlighting.
130$ vs 85$ for the cm qfp
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The QFR is a bit cheaper than other keyboards, a few people have wondered about that, especially given its relatively high quality (typing this on a QFR right now, with my Ducky sitting next to me).
But if you add the price for the LEDs, the extra circuitry to make them work, the extra work to make backlight-friendly keycaps, the keyboard-specialist name Ducky (as opposed to CoolerMaste, who I had never associated with keyboards before I found geekhack), and each little bit adds up to make the difference.
Sort of.
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The QFR is a bit cheaper than other keyboards, a few people have wondered about that, especially given its relatively high quality (typing this on a QFR right now, with my Ducky sitting next to me).
But if you add the price for the LEDs, the extra circuitry to make them work, the extra work to make backlight-friendly keycaps, the keyboard-specialist name Ducky (as opposed to CoolerMaste, who I had never associated with keyboards before I found geekhack), and each little bit adds up to make the difference.
Sort of.
So its te sane thing but one wants more money..
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Not quite the same thing - QFR has no backlighting, which is the main difference.
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cm storm trigger with your choice of switch seems to be what people recommend to noobs
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Not quite the same thing - QFR has no backlighting, which is the main difference.
I dont need back lights that much abd back lights doesnt cost that much abd CM got some other midels with back lights and other stuff that are still cheaper then ducky or filco
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Well..?
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Apparently there will be Ducky Zero TKL at some stage.
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44238.0
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Well I don't know. There has been a number of recommendations in this thread. Ducky Shine IIs are recommended for backlighting because they have the most LED options and 6 display modes plus brightness levels. Why are they more expensive than a backlit CM board? Options and a quality OEM, NKRO and DIP switches.
Why isn't TKL + macros common? It makes no sense to have a truncated keyboard then be expanded by macro keys which won't be natively supported by all operating systems.
If you're cost conscious, then get one of the CM keyboards. They are quality and you will get a lot of use out of them. Your options are limited with CM, but you can't have your cake and eat it too unless you pony up.
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I saw this keyboard https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=178 i heard its recommended but i dont see why it costs that much no macros no anything just switches :/
I think i will take k70 or something.. Tell me what you think
Full backlight, high quality.
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Twice the price of the cm
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Twice the price of the cm
CM Quickfire Rapid has no backlight modes. Also not the same quality (PCB, construction). There are non-LED Ducky models which are around $100 and are thus close to what CM sells Rapids and Stealth for on their own store site. There's also a more budget friendly Ducky Zero line for under $100, and the TKL version of that is coming out soon.
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Twice the price of the cm
Backlit keyboards are more expensive, if you don't like that, get a CM QFR.
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Twice the price of the cm
Then get the CM QFR. Or get the Trigger if you want red backlight.
Prices are what they are for the backlighting. It's a lot more solder work and an extra daughterboard to manage LED control & save settings. I think there's enough posts to explain this to you.
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If you want people to spend time replying with advice, you should spend time reading it carefully and responding in kind.
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I saw this keyboard https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=178 i heard its recommended but i dont see why it costs that much no macros no anything just switches :/
I think i will take k70 or something.. Tell me what you think
Ducky are one of the extremely well respected brands. Their general build quality and feel is widely considered to be one of the very best in Cherry MX Switches along with Filco.
If you're going to take one of the more mainstream brands like Corsair, have a look around on here and ask for opinions first, as some of them suffer from bad build quality. I can't speak for Corsair, but I know my Razer keyboard which I got because it's a brand most people know of, was pretty poor, and broke in a short amount of time.
I expect Corsair will be better though, they don't often cut corners on any of their products.
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cm storm trigger with your choice of switch seems to be what people recommend to noobs
The trigger is a nice keyboard.
I have no idea why you would post this.
It is targeted at the gamer community because of the software.
Based on what he posted
5 dedicated macro keys
6KRO
backlit w/3 brightness levels
fully programmable (assign/reassign macros or single functions to any keys)
here is a youtube video with a brief overview of the software if the OP is interested
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cm storm trigger with your choice of switch seems to be what people recommend to noobs
The trigger is a nice keyboard.
I have no idea why you would post this.
This thread is just full of that sort of thing... Which is unfortunate.
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His bias towards buckling springs (Model-M's) does not help this thread or the OP.