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geekhack Community => Keyboards => Topic started by: ValerieV on Thu, 30 May 2013, 17:11:30
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Has anyone here ever felt guilty because they love a cheap keyboard more? I have the Cherry ML 4100 and i love the thing. At times i have complaints about it but nothing too major. However, i also own a HHKB, a Leopold Topre, Filco cherry mx keyboards and a Matias Tactile Pro. I keep going back to using this 4100 keyboard. I can't help but wonder what does this keyboard have over me that makes me love it so much and neglect my more expensive, better made keyboards? The ML switches are stiff at times and they feel like there is sand stuck in them but i can't stop using it. :confused:
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Not sure you could call it cheap but I really like my laptop keyboard and my logitech K750 :eek:
But thats probably because I've been using them for a couple years and that is what I'm used to but I don't think I could ever go back to not having some type of mechanical for daily use.
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Hmm...........
This might be what's going on
In a world where women are photoshop perfect, you would naturally feel inferior..
Thus you've projected yourself onto that keyboard.
The ML represents you in the company of prettier taller girls, the topre, filco, leopold.
You've developed a bond with the keyboard because it is your wish that in the real world, others would see you and hold you as special despite your obvious deficits compared to those who are superior..
In rescuing that board, you are saving and protecting your own ego.
I don't claim that "I" am superior... and I am not trying to be condescending. :D
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No need to feel guilty, you've found your ideal switch. You can sell all other keyboards, and be happy.
Buy one more 4100 keyboard and learn if ML switch benefits from lubrication :-)
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Hmm...........
This might be what's going on
In a world where women are photoshop perfect, you would naturally feel inferior..
Thus you've projected yourself onto that keyboard.
The ML represents you in the company of prettier taller girls, the topre, filco, leopold.
You've developed a bond with the keyboard because it is your wish that in the real world, others would see you and hold you as special despite your obvious deficits compared to those who are superior..
In rescuing that board, you are saving and protecting your own ego.
I don't claim that "I" am superior... and I am not trying to be condescending. :D
That is the funniest response i have seen. That might be exactly what is going on. However, i must admit, the ML switches are not my favorite switch. I actually really love the topres. That is what is making this whole situation so odd. The switches aren't that great and the keyboard itself feels too cramp but yet...there's a bond i have that the other keyboards haven't had with me.
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quality > price. nothing more to it.
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But the ML 4100 quality isn't as good as some of the other keyboards. The HHKB feels a lot sturdier and better quality.
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My switches feel satisfying to type on. I have yet to lube my 4100, but I like it the way it is already. There are several others here who like the ML switches and don't mind the minor flaws.
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Sometimes typing on something fancy is stressful for me. I type carefully on my Poker because I know I spent $300+ on it. Every now and then it's a relief to type on something without that kind of responsibility!
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Really? What are you worried about exactly?
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Nope, there is absolutely nothing like this DK1087 out there right now, and I love it.
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I don't think i would ever lube my switches because it looks like it is hard to do as i have seen some videos of people completely taking the switch apart and then putting it back together. Yikes! Some of you guys are great at this stuff, i am not. When i get a keyboard the most modification i do to it is switch a couple of keycaps and that is all. :(
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Nothing in particular, it's just that I type with less force because I want to keep everything in perfect condition. I know that each switch is rated to 50m presses, but nothing else I own is built to an industrial standard. As an everyday consumer it feels natural for me to try and baby something that I care about.
Just like trying not to run if I'm wearing expensive shoes. Sometimes it's just comfortable running around with an old pair of sneakers you don't care about.
Edit: So a stuck or weird feeling switch may be an imagined/irrational fear, but it is a fear nonetheless.
It may have to do with me constantly typing on the terrible keyboards at school with stick keys and presses that don't register. It just scares me to death thinking about that happening to my baby!
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I don't know if it's considered "cheap" but I love my Noppoo Choc Mini waaaay more than my Filco. It's like a poor man's version of the LZMX
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I don't think i would ever lube my switches because it looks like it is hard to do as i have seen some videos of people completely taking the switch apart and then putting it back together. Yikes! Some of you guys are great at this stuff, i am not. When i get a keyboard the most modification i do to it is switch a couple of keycaps and that is all. :(
ah.. y are you not leveraging your gender + points... Pick any lonely Local GHer here, and I'm pretty sure you could just pm, show up at their house, and they'll do whateves for free...
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right now I've got full-on wood for IBM Thinkpad scissor switches
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right now I've got full-on wood for IBM Thinkpad scissor switches
they're very good initially, but they wear quickly, good thing replacements are cheap.. Make sure you're getting ORIGINAL lenovo parts though, cuz they have 3rd party aftermarket replacement keyboards and they're not nearly as good.
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I still like my Apple Aluminium keyboard, although I haven't used it for a long time.
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Nothing in particular, it's just that I type with less force because I want to keep everything in perfect condition. I know that each switch is rated to 50m presses, but nothing else I own is built to an industrial standard. As an everyday consumer it feels natural for me to try and baby something that I care about.
Just like trying not to run if I'm wearing expensive shoes. Sometimes it's just comfortable running around with an old pair of sneakers you don't care about.
Edit: So a stuck or weird feeling switch may be an imagined/irrational fear, but it is a fear nonetheless.
It may have to do with me constantly typing on the terrible keyboards at school with stick keys and presses that don't register. It just scares me to death thinking about that happening to my baby!
Don't worry. That keyboard will outlive your next few vehicles. There's no need to baby it :) The only thing you'll ever have to replace (purely for cosmetic reasons) are the keycaps.
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I absolutely love Unicomps and Model Ms which are rather cheap for mechanical keyboards. Not feeling guilty about it.
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I love my Ducky YotD MX red more than any other keyboard I own. Yeah it's not a cheap keyboard, but considering that I've dropped over $400+ on a couple custom modded boards; in comparison it's cheap and still my favorite board for whatever reason. It has been lubed and o-ringed which bumps up it's value I suppose, but still it's the closest to my heart even next to a fully modded Korean custom.
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I like having a reliable older car that can take a few dings in a parking lot without me having to get cranked up about it.
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I don't really like any of my prior rubber domes, but my first mechanial keyboard (Storm Trigger) was great, even though it was not expensive when I got it (good sale). I can't say I was awed by my Filco after it, even though it cost me half as much as the Filco. Sure, the Filco TKL is nice and small, which I love, but typing on the Trigger was a pleasure and very comfy, and I loved the included wrist rest. The keys on the Trigger have a nice soft-touch coating too, which felt very soothing, as did the wrist rest. It's a comfy keyboard with the larger bezel and rubbery coating + wristrest. I'm moving onto smaller keyboards, but I'll always be fond of the Trigger!
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I've been using the cheapest Logitech keyboard I could find for a while as a temporary replacement for dead laptop keyboards (it happened a lot).
(http://i.imgur.com/HjWLFxD.png)
It doesn't even have a proper name, just a code.
Well it worked, and it worked better than the laptop keyboards.
I won't claim it goes near a proper switch keyboard but it does the job admirably for the price (I probably gave around $10).
It came to prove Logitech are insanely good in proper manufacturing of input devices. Unfortunately their Marketing division probably considers the mechanical keyboard market a niche (which it is) so their range is extremely limited, but if they had a big range, I wouldn't look back. They are simply Wizards on plastic.