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Title: The flaw of blue switches
Post by: fateswarm on Fri, 31 May 2013, 12:46:21
One can have software produce any kind of sound.
Title: Re: The flaw of blue switches
Post by: Photekq on Fri, 31 May 2013, 12:47:20
Software cannot produce the same tactile feedback of blue switches.
Title: Re: The flaw of blue switches
Post by: kmiller8 on Fri, 31 May 2013, 12:47:31
nah dude, the problem with MX blues is that they're waay too heavy.
Title: Re: The flaw of blue switches
Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 31 May 2013, 12:52:22
I do not understand the obsession with the "sounds" of switches. I like tactile switches for the feel of the tactility.

A silent switch that allowed me to feel the click but not hear it would be awesome.

I know - you don't have to say it - earplugs !
Title: Re: The flaw of blue switches
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 31 May 2013, 12:55:18
I do not understand the obsession with the "sounds" of switches. I like tactile switches for the feel of the tactility.

A silent switch that allowed me to feel the click but not hear it would be awesome.

I know - you don't have to say it - earplugs !

I can agree with this statement, I like the tactile feedback, but that click gets annoying.
Title: Re: The flaw of blue switches
Post by: funkymeeba on Fri, 31 May 2013, 12:56:06
I love the click on blue switches. They're just a little on the light side for my taste, though.
Title: Re: The flaw of blue switches
Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 31 May 2013, 12:57:45
65g blues is where it's at meeba!
Title: Re: The flaw of blue switches
Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 31 May 2013, 13:07:20
Why not both?  The louder the typing is the better, says I.  My Kinesis can make little chirps at every keystroke.

Just yesterday a coworker was at my desk and said something like "I have no idea how your keyboard feels, but it's the best sounding keyboard I've ever heard."
Title: Re: The flaw of blue switches
Post by: daerid on Fri, 31 May 2013, 13:32:15
Omg. The sound of a good mech board is the greatest thing ever. So soothing and relaxing and addicting... the sound is almost the best part :)
Title: Re: The flaw of blue switches
Post by: pgeiger on Fri, 31 May 2013, 13:39:07
Is it a flaw of the zebra that man can paint any shape?  Your premise and conclusion have nothing to do with one another.
Title: Re: The flaw of blue switches
Post by: DrinkTea on Fri, 31 May 2013, 13:51:05
Yeah, a keyboard isn't doing its entire job unless everyone wants to choke you when you type on it.
Title: Re: The flaw of blue switches
Post by: Sorun on Fri, 31 May 2013, 14:30:33
Yeah, a keyboard isn't doing its entire job unless everyone wants to choke you when you type on it.

My room mate in the next room would start tapping on the wall when ever I started to type, almost in perfect synchro to try and annoy me. It was pretty hillarious.
Title: Re: The flaw of blue switches
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 31 May 2013, 14:43:11
Yeah, a keyboard isn't doing its entire job unless everyone wants to choke you when you type on it.

My room mate in the next room would start tapping on the wall when ever I started to type, almost in perfect synchro to try and annoy me. It was pretty hillarious.

this happens months in advance of the guy murdering you in your sleep... watch out... many-er ghers have disappeared over the years, I'm supposing something similar has happened.
Title: Re: The flaw of blue switches
Post by: FoxWolf1 on Fri, 31 May 2013, 14:44:20
In the old days, there were some keyboards with built-in clicker speakers...that way, you could have switchable sound feedback without having to resort to software. I think people generally preferred having "real" sounds that actually came from the keys, though.
Title: Re: The flaw of blue switches
Post by: Findecanor on Fri, 31 May 2013, 16:14:03
The clicker-speaker keyboards often had linear switches ....
Title: Re: The flaw of blue switches
Post by: davkol on Fri, 31 May 2013, 16:37:52
Still have. Point of sale. Most keyboards at cash registers are Elcom EK-3000 (Cherry MX Black + optional beep) here in Czechia.

I'm fine with a little bit of clack from reds with nice keycaps, but buckling spring or MX Blue + bottoming out sounds like an extremely annoying machine gun to me.
Title: Re: The flaw of blue switches
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 31 May 2013, 16:46:35
Still have. Point of sale. Most keyboards at cash registers are Elcom EK-3000 (Cherry MX Black + optional beep) here in Czechia.

I'm fine with a little bit of clack from reds with nice keycaps, but buckling spring or MX Blue + bottoming out sounds like an extremely annoying machine gun to me.

LOL extremely annoying machine gun...
Title: Re: The flaw of blue switches
Post by: RabRhee on Fri, 31 May 2013, 18:08:00
They did have a bit of software years ago that added true typewriting sounds to normal PC typing, including the loud ding when you hit carriage return. It supposedly improved the users typing speed too. Still that was back in the 90s when people still remembered typewriters.
Title: Re: The flaw of blue switches
Post by: Findecanor on Fri, 31 May 2013, 18:29:58
Has anyone tried to put a rubber damper inside a Cherry MX switch?

The "click" sound from a blue Cherry MX switch is created by the white inner slider being propelled downwards and hitting, either the bottom or its "restraints". I am not sure exactly which, but a rubber on the bottom of the switch should dampen the slider's motion near the bottom.
Title: Re: The flaw of blue switches
Post by: Hak Foo on Fri, 31 May 2013, 20:01:53
The effect is extremely fake with an embedded speaker.  Try a Wang 724, for example/  Aside from it being a soft feep, not a realistic sound, it lacks positional accuracy-- you're pressing at one end, the sound is coming from elsewhere.
Title: Re: The flaw of blue switches
Post by: tp4tissue on Fri, 31 May 2013, 20:43:58
Has anyone tried to put a rubber damper inside a Cherry MX switch?

The "click" sound from a blue Cherry MX switch is created by the white inner slider being propelled downwards and hitting, either the bottom or its "restraints". I am not sure exactly which, but a rubber on the bottom of the switch should dampen the slider's motion near the bottom.

if you want to get rid of the click, just use a high viscosity lube, and the click will be gone.
Title: Re: The flaw of blue switches
Post by: Surnia on Fri, 31 May 2013, 23:14:59
I do not understand the obsession with the "sounds" of switches. I like tactile switches for the feel of the tactility.

A silent switch that allowed me to feel the click but not hear it would be awesome.

I know - you don't have to say it - earplugs !

open up the switch, put a damper (REALLY THIN) at the bottom of the key around the spring. Should kill all noise, and keep the clean break of the blues.
Title: Re: The flaw of blue switches
Post by: Schattendolch on Fri, 31 May 2013, 23:20:54
i don't really like blues, or cherry mx at all.

the sound that come from blues seems to be artificial and pointless, with buckling springs it at least makes sense
Title: Re: The flaw of blue switches
Post by: Glod on Sat, 01 June 2013, 00:47:43
its true you can add the sound and you can do it on the keyboard actually, a geekhack member sordna made a mod for the ErgoDox (can be applied to other DIY keyboards) where he put a buzzer in it and essentially made clicky red linear switches. http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=22780.msg840977;topicseen#msg840977

Honestly i love Blue and White Switches, especially the whites i have now with KR62g springs, i love clicky switches the best, why the hell do i not own a buckling spring keyboard yet?

nah dude, the problem with MX blues is that they're waay too heavy.

heavy? you and my friend are the only ones I've heard say that. i think they are a little too light for a clicky switch.

Put 45g korean springs (not the 45g red/brown springs) in blues and it may blow your mind, crazy light with the same blue click goodness. building my friend's Phantom with the blues like that.