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geekhack Community => Keyboards => Topic started by: lightsout714 on Wed, 05 June 2013, 14:28:03
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Why are TKL boards with clears so hard to find. I understand clears are rare. Supposedly qfr may be coming and wasd v2 one of these days.
Is my best bet just to get someone to customize a current board I have?
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Why are TKL boards with clears so hard to find. I understand clears are rare. Supposedly qfr may be coming and wasd v2 one of these days.
Is my best bet just to get someone to customize a current board I have?
Yes, unless you can find someone selling a Leopold FC200R with clears.
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Forgot about the Leo. Had one a while ago sold it to small fry. Thinking about just getting switches and have someone mod my qfr. But even switches are hard to come by/expensive.
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I have a Leo with clears, nearly new, that I will be selling.
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PM'd
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be sure to mod the clears :D
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be sure to mod the clears :D
I am realizing I do not like the lighter switches. Its an error fest on browns now after using greens. And I wish the greens were a bit heavier.
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Depending on batch, clears can do with a bit of lube tho ;)
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There's always the FC660M with clears. I just got that and it's very nice.
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There's always the FC660M with clears. I just got that and it's very nice.
Thanks for pointing that out. Forgot about it. Kind of prefer TKL but the layout is pretty close.
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Pretty sure the WASD V2 will have clears as an option.
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Yah I think I mentioned that in op. I'll definitely take a look at them when they come out.
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Actually, I think the default Cherry MX Clear's spring is very strong, for me it's even stronger than Cherry MX Green and Black. I don't know why, perhaps it's just my feeling. So I suggest that if you go with Clear, you should change the spring with something lighter to create Ergo Clear.
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I like stiffer switches. I do remember that when I had clears they felt stiffer than the greens I have now. We'll see when ever I get some.
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I think the overall force on clears might be less, but it feels like their actuation point is higher. I have a board with whites as well and I think those feel stiffer than clears. And if I'm not mistaken, white and green are very close.
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I think the overall force on clears might be less, but it feels like their actuation point is higher. I have a board with whites as well and I think those feel stiffer than clears. And if I'm not mistaken, white and green are very close.
Lightest to heaviest in actuation force: red/brown/blue, black, clear, white/green, lgrey/tgrey
Lightest to heaviest in bottom out force: red/brown/blue, black, white/green, clear, lgrey/tgrey
Here are figures from IvanIvanovich , I think it can explain why my fingers get tired quickly on the default Cherry MX Clear
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Interesting that white/green and clear switch wrt activation and bottom out. Does that have to do with the stems? though I find my fingers get tired more quickly on the stock whites than clears. Although I still insist I need to toughen up my wuss pinkies.
Are there numbers for that or is it just an ordering. I'd like to see how much they actually differ.
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It's the force curve of the spring. Clear's force curve is steeper, not sure if it starts higher tho...
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Keycool made one. Check their website and trace one through their taobao shop.